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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:55 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Urist wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:53 pm Whom else did you target?
sloonei, 2

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:56 pm
by Seanzie
What do you do IRL TSP? I'm seeing you talk about math problems in your ISO, and earlier you mentioned Kant, so I am curious.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:58 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:56 pm What do you do IRL TSP? I'm seeing you talk about math problems in your ISO, and earlier you mentioned Kant, so I am curious.
I'm a student. I do a whole lot of things usually, but I go on spring break in two minutes so hopefully I'll have an opportunity to catch up on sleep

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:59 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:21 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm so many things itt are just absolutely mind boggling
Top 5 Mind Boggling Thread Events plz
4) falcon being convinced that alison is the neutral
4) anyone townreading chop
3) whoever made the post preflipping sloonei and saying that KZA was town
2) sloonei specifically saying that he srs daisy (which he does not he's just saying words)
1) chop claiming a scumslip
interesting!

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:00 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:58 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:56 pm What do you do IRL TSP? I'm seeing you talk about math problems in your ISO, and earlier you mentioned Kant, so I am curious.
I'm a student. I do a whole lot of things usually, but I go on spring break in two minutes so hopefully I'll have an opportunity to catch up on sleep
What do you study?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:01 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:59 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:21 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm so many things itt are just absolutely mind boggling
Top 5 Mind Boggling Thread Events plz
4) falcon being convinced that alison is the neutral
4) anyone townreading chop
3) whoever made the post preflipping sloonei and saying that KZA was town
2) sloonei specifically saying that he srs daisy (which he does not he's just saying words)
1) chop claiming a scumslip
interesting!
It was marmot

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:02 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:58 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:56 pm What do you do IRL TSP? I'm seeing you talk about math problems in your ISO, and earlier you mentioned Kant, so I am curious.
I'm a student. I do a whole lot of things usually, but I go on spring break in two minutes so hopefully I'll have an opportunity to catch up on sleep
What do you study?
Music, math, philosophy. Sometimes international political economy on the side.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:02 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:59 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:21 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm so many things itt are just absolutely mind boggling
Top 5 Mind Boggling Thread Events plz
4) falcon being convinced that alison is the neutral
4) anyone townreading chop
3) whoever made the post preflipping sloonei and saying that KZA was town
2) sloonei specifically saying that he srs daisy (which he does not he's just saying words)
1) chop claiming a scumslip
interesting!
It was marmot
But you found it mindboggling, but also seem to be surprised that my slot shot KZA.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:03 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:33 pm Honestly like normally I'm not the kind of person to demand townreads or all that but I think that this is pretty pure serious towny tsp tone. I dunno if we've played in any games together where you would have seen that but I think a tone argument is questionable. You had an early SR on me for being jumpy and light, trying to imitate my normal style as I do when I'm a wolf. I don't think that corresponds to reality.
Lol.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:04 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
yes because things happened in between and also the boggling part there is not the saying that KZA is town

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:05 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:58 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:56 pm What do you do IRL TSP? I'm seeing you talk about math problems in your ISO, and earlier you mentioned Kant, so I am curious.
I'm a student. I do a whole lot of things usually, but I go on spring break in two minutes so hopefully I'll have an opportunity to catch up on sleep
What do you study?
Music, math, philosophy. Sometimes international political economy on the side.
Cool, I'm a mathematician (on the art side of mathematics, not the science side), and philosophy was always one of those things that I could have seen myself doing, if it wasn't for math.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:05 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:05 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:58 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:56 pm What do you do IRL TSP? I'm seeing you talk about math problems in your ISO, and earlier you mentioned Kant, so I am curious.
I'm a student. I do a whole lot of things usually, but I go on spring break in two minutes so hopefully I'll have an opportunity to catch up on sleep
What do you study?
Music, math, philosophy. Sometimes international political economy on the side.
Cool, I'm a mathematician (on the art side of mathematics, not the science side), and philosophy was always one of those things that I could have seen myself doing, if it wasn't for math.
it's all the art side

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:07 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:05 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:05 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:58 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:56 pm What do you do IRL TSP? I'm seeing you talk about math problems in your ISO, and earlier you mentioned Kant, so I am curious.
I'm a student. I do a whole lot of things usually, but I go on spring break in two minutes so hopefully I'll have an opportunity to catch up on sleep
What do you study?
Music, math, philosophy. Sometimes international political economy on the side.
Cool, I'm a mathematician (on the art side of mathematics, not the science side), and philosophy was always one of those things that I could have seen myself doing, if it wasn't for math.
it's all the art side
I mean, I agree with you, but some others wouldn't, and I can see the points they make, and I can also usually tell which side people are on if I work with them for a little bit.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:07 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:16 pm Alison my feeling is that in Mysterious Universe I intentionally gave wide SRs and shorter posts to flood the thread. I had 20 percent of the total posts in that game or something. Here I’ve posted less and longer (part due to circumstance) and I’ve taken more deliberate stances in the thread.
though here's the real lol

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 1]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:13 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Esooa wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:24 am what the fuck is this TSP chopchop read I'm kinda ???????????????????????????? Right now

Don't like it at all

Can you explain more TSP?
Esooa wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:34 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:31 am
Esooa wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:29 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:25 am
Esooa wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:24 am what the fuck is this TSP chopchop read I'm kinda ???????????????????????????? Right now

Don't like it at all

Can you explain more TSP?
Maybe when I get to a computer. But read the first 20-30 posts in their iso (starting day 1). Tell me that you see something that is not a wolf
idk what this means
Read Chop’s posts and tell me they’re town. It feels like every single one gives off wolf vibes
I see

I was just confused then because I thought you town read him

He is very probably a wolf, yes
Esooa wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:35 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 am I mean like my overall playstyle. I think you’re closer to my town game than wolf game too. I just mean that I look at the first page of your ISO and I think “why do I need to bother keep looking all of the info is right here”
This post confused me because you said they're closer to your town game than wolf game so I was very ???

Sorry for the miscommunication
to whatever Sean said about esooa scumreading me, this uh is not a set of posts that suggests that

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:14 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:07 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:16 pm Alison my feeling is that in Mysterious Universe I intentionally gave wide SRs and shorter posts to flood the thread. I had 20 percent of the total posts in that game or something. Here I’ve posted less and longer (part due to circumstance) and I’ve taken more deliberate stances in the thread.
though here's the real lol
Were you scum in Mysterious Universe?

Also, would you mind linking your past two town games and past two scum games?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:24 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Town:

doppelgangsters
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewforum.php?f=276

I'm fuskdall here, this was a good game.

GOC 2020:
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... =42&t=2044

think I got modkilled here. whoops.

Wolf:

Nanook is a bastard:
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 276&t=2012

MTG:
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 276&t=2063

I subbed in day 3 here, so YMMV. the previous wolf game was the aforementioned mysterious universe.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:31 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:29 pm Grogu vaguely claimed information on day 2 that implied that falcon had targeted alison. barring this being a shot in the dark and a wolf claiming information based on nothing for no reason, my guess is that somehow grogu either knew that falcon targeted alison or at least knew falcon or alison's role or something that would lead to him making this conclusion.
Grogu had an inventor handing him inventions, didn't he?

Most of the wolf fakeclaims MAKE SENSE for them, like the BoS messenger and the wolf messenger.

Tony's claim is that the last wolf must be a tracker, but if that was the case, the tracker's fakeclaim would have to be Marmot.

Wolves have an inventor though, and you know what role is perfect cover for an inventor? An inventor.

Everything is in the setup, all the information is there. There are clear fakeclaim pairs for pretty much everyone in Enclave, VC, and slaver, JUST LIKE JJJ designed it!

The wolves talked about inventors multiple times. They knew one existed. Grogu used inventions almost assuredly. Neither Nook nor Sloonei made indications that they used inventions. Why wouldn't they hint if it meant possibly clearing someone?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:34 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:24 pm Town:

doppelgangsters
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewforum.php?f=276

I'm fuskdall here, this was a good game.

GOC 2020:
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... =42&t=2044

think I got modkilled here. whoops.

Wolf:

Nanook is a bastard:
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 276&t=2012

MTG:
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 276&t=2063

I subbed in day 3 here, so YMMV. the previous wolf game was the aforementioned mysterious universe.
Were you scum in Mysterious Universe? Also, if possible, could you link that one too?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:34 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:31 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:29 pm Grogu vaguely claimed information on day 2 that implied that falcon had targeted alison. barring this being a shot in the dark and a wolf claiming information based on nothing for no reason, my guess is that somehow grogu either knew that falcon targeted alison or at least knew falcon or alison's role or something that would lead to him making this conclusion.
Grogu had an inventor handing him inventions, didn't he?

Most of the wolf fakeclaims MAKE SENSE for them, like the BoS messenger and the wolf messenger.

Tony's claim is that the last wolf must be a tracker, but if that was the case, the tracker's fakeclaim would have to be Marmot.

Wolves have an inventor though, and you know what role is perfect cover for an inventor? An inventor.

Everything is in the setup, all the information is there. There are clear fakeclaim pairs for pretty much everyone in Enclave, VC, and slaver, JUST LIKE JJJ designed it!

The wolves talked about inventors multiple times. They knew one existed. Grogu used inventions almost assuredly. Neither Nook nor Sloonei made indications that they used inventions. Why wouldn't they hint if it meant possibly clearing someone?
bad news, jack flipped inventor. and he didn't claim my role. because I had it.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:35 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
wait, you know this

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:36 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
idk feels like if my role were a wolf fake claim then the inventor would have claimed it, no

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:37 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
also, from your side, this is the logic I thought through that would implicate marmot. and that didn't work out

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:42 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:34 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:31 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:29 pm Grogu vaguely claimed information on day 2 that implied that falcon had targeted alison. barring this being a shot in the dark and a wolf claiming information based on nothing for no reason, my guess is that somehow grogu either knew that falcon targeted alison or at least knew falcon or alison's role or something that would lead to him making this conclusion.
Grogu had an inventor handing him inventions, didn't he?

Most of the wolf fakeclaims MAKE SENSE for them, like the BoS messenger and the wolf messenger.

Tony's claim is that the last wolf must be a tracker, but if that was the case, the tracker's fakeclaim would have to be Marmot.

Wolves have an inventor though, and you know what role is perfect cover for an inventor? An inventor.

Everything is in the setup, all the information is there. There are clear fakeclaim pairs for pretty much everyone in Enclave, VC, and slaver, JUST LIKE JJJ designed it!

The wolves talked about inventors multiple times. They knew one existed. Grogu used inventions almost assuredly. Neither Nook nor Sloonei made indications that they used inventions. Why wouldn't they hint if it meant possibly clearing someone?
bad news, jack flipped inventor. and he didn't claim my role. because I had it.
So he did. Sorry, my last few days IRL was very hectic, and when I realized this game was ongoing yesterday(gameday), I just voted sleep, and didn't follow much (I mean, I read the posts, but I didn't really think at all about the game, or apparently even look at what Jack flipped...).

Honestly think this looks even worse for you though, since Jack's fakeclaim SHOULD have been your role. You switched fakeclaims. Not all of them line up, but the fact that Chop fakeclaimed the role he did, the fact that Alison fakeclaimed the role she did, and things like the Redding doc being clear cover for the other slaver role really point to roles being matched up.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:44 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:37 pm also, from your side, this is the logic I thought through that would implicate marmot. and that didn't work out
You talking about Marmot feels dirty since it seems pretty clear you killed him since Urist was more set on me than Marmot (who was suspicious of me, but made it clear he was going to re-evaluate everything today and hadn't done his due diligence on you yet).

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:45 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:44 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:37 pm also, from your side, this is the logic I thought through that would implicate marmot. and that didn't work out
You talking about Marmot feels dirty since it seems pretty clear you killed him since Urist was more set on me than Marmot (who was suspicious of me, but made it clear he was going to re-evaluate everything today and hadn't done his due diligence on you yet).
i uh don't think this is a reasonable assessment of where marmot was in the thread by the end of yesterday

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:46 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:42 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:34 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:31 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:29 pm Grogu vaguely claimed information on day 2 that implied that falcon had targeted alison. barring this being a shot in the dark and a wolf claiming information based on nothing for no reason, my guess is that somehow grogu either knew that falcon targeted alison or at least knew falcon or alison's role or something that would lead to him making this conclusion.
Grogu had an inventor handing him inventions, didn't he?

Most of the wolf fakeclaims MAKE SENSE for them, like the BoS messenger and the wolf messenger.

Tony's claim is that the last wolf must be a tracker, but if that was the case, the tracker's fakeclaim would have to be Marmot.

Wolves have an inventor though, and you know what role is perfect cover for an inventor? An inventor.

Everything is in the setup, all the information is there. There are clear fakeclaim pairs for pretty much everyone in Enclave, VC, and slaver, JUST LIKE JJJ designed it!

The wolves talked about inventors multiple times. They knew one existed. Grogu used inventions almost assuredly. Neither Nook nor Sloonei made indications that they used inventions. Why wouldn't they hint if it meant possibly clearing someone?
bad news, jack flipped inventor. and he didn't claim my role. because I had it.
So he did. Sorry, my last few days IRL was very hectic, and when I realized this game was ongoing yesterday(gameday), I just voted sleep, and didn't follow much (I mean, I read the posts, but I didn't really think at all about the game, or apparently even look at what Jack flipped...).

Honestly think this looks even worse for you though, since Jack's fakeclaim SHOULD have been your role. You switched fakeclaims. Not all of them line up, but the fact that Chop fakeclaimed the role he did, the fact that Alison fakeclaimed the role she did, and things like the Redding doc being clear cover for the other slaver role really point to roles being matched up.
the wolf team already fakeclaimed an inventor

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:50 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:45 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:44 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:37 pm also, from your side, this is the logic I thought through that would implicate marmot. and that didn't work out
You talking about Marmot feels dirty since it seems pretty clear you killed him since Urist was more set on me than Marmot (who was suspicious of me, but made it clear he was going to re-evaluate everything today and hadn't done his due diligence on you yet).
i uh don't think this is a reasonable assessment of where marmot was in the thread by the end of yesterday
Marmot wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:10 am Sean's iso looks a lot better than Syn and Poison. If he's the final Enclave, he's making matters very difficult.
Marmot wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:22 pm I'm just going to operate under the assumpion that sean is mafia rn, and let him NK either TSP or Urist so I can iso the other one tomorrow instead. If I'm NK'd, then y'all at least have some work done for you on sean/poison/syn.

If sean's NK'd, I'll just reevaluate tomorrow.

[VOTE: No Yeet] aubergine
Tell me more about where Marmot was in the thread yesterday vs. where you or Urist was in the thread.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:51 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:42 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:34 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:31 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:29 pm Grogu vaguely claimed information on day 2 that implied that falcon had targeted alison. barring this being a shot in the dark and a wolf claiming information based on nothing for no reason, my guess is that somehow grogu either knew that falcon targeted alison or at least knew falcon or alison's role or something that would lead to him making this conclusion.
Grogu had an inventor handing him inventions, didn't he?

Most of the wolf fakeclaims MAKE SENSE for them, like the BoS messenger and the wolf messenger.

Tony's claim is that the last wolf must be a tracker, but if that was the case, the tracker's fakeclaim would have to be Marmot.

Wolves have an inventor though, and you know what role is perfect cover for an inventor? An inventor.

Everything is in the setup, all the information is there. There are clear fakeclaim pairs for pretty much everyone in Enclave, VC, and slaver, JUST LIKE JJJ designed it!

The wolves talked about inventors multiple times. They knew one existed. Grogu used inventions almost assuredly. Neither Nook nor Sloonei made indications that they used inventions. Why wouldn't they hint if it meant possibly clearing someone?
bad news, jack flipped inventor. and he didn't claim my role. because I had it.
So he did. Sorry, my last few days IRL was very hectic, and when I realized this game was ongoing yesterday(gameday), I just voted sleep, and didn't follow much (I mean, I read the posts, but I didn't really think at all about the game, or apparently even look at what Jack flipped...).

Honestly think this looks even worse for you though, since Jack's fakeclaim SHOULD have been your role. You switched fakeclaims. Not all of them line up, but the fact that Chop fakeclaimed the role he did, the fact that Alison fakeclaimed the role she did, and things like the Redding doc being clear cover for the other slaver role really point to roles being matched up.
the wolf team already fakeclaimed an inventor
Can you elaborate? I'm guessing you're right since you wouldn't claim this right now if not, but I am a rep in, so please fill me in.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:52 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
i was probably leaning towards voting for marmot for most of the first half of the day, urist basically didn't show and would be essentially a wild card. marmot had a pretty defined tilt.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:53 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
idk, you're right, we were all pretty unified on where we stood by the end. But I would think that urist would be more of a loose cannon than marmot

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:53 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:51 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:42 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:34 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:31 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:29 pm Grogu vaguely claimed information on day 2 that implied that falcon had targeted alison. barring this being a shot in the dark and a wolf claiming information based on nothing for no reason, my guess is that somehow grogu either knew that falcon targeted alison or at least knew falcon or alison's role or something that would lead to him making this conclusion.
Grogu had an inventor handing him inventions, didn't he?

Most of the wolf fakeclaims MAKE SENSE for them, like the BoS messenger and the wolf messenger.

Tony's claim is that the last wolf must be a tracker, but if that was the case, the tracker's fakeclaim would have to be Marmot.

Wolves have an inventor though, and you know what role is perfect cover for an inventor? An inventor.

Everything is in the setup, all the information is there. There are clear fakeclaim pairs for pretty much everyone in Enclave, VC, and slaver, JUST LIKE JJJ designed it!

The wolves talked about inventors multiple times. They knew one existed. Grogu used inventions almost assuredly. Neither Nook nor Sloonei made indications that they used inventions. Why wouldn't they hint if it meant possibly clearing someone?
bad news, jack flipped inventor. and he didn't claim my role. because I had it.
So he did. Sorry, my last few days IRL was very hectic, and when I realized this game was ongoing yesterday(gameday), I just voted sleep, and didn't follow much (I mean, I read the posts, but I didn't really think at all about the game, or apparently even look at what Jack flipped...).

Honestly think this looks even worse for you though, since Jack's fakeclaim SHOULD have been your role. You switched fakeclaims. Not all of them line up, but the fact that Chop fakeclaimed the role he did, the fact that Alison fakeclaimed the role she did, and things like the Redding doc being clear cover for the other slaver role really point to roles being matched up.
the wolf team already fakeclaimed an inventor
Can you elaborate? I'm guessing you're right since you wouldn't claim this right now if not, but I am a rep in, so please fill me in.
They claimed... Zeke? Was it?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:02 pm
by Seanzie
TSP, weird question...

Earlier when you posted Marmot's NK data, in your analysis you labeled the possibility that scum shooting Alison as unlikely, but you didn't label the possibility of scum intentially blocking their own shot as unlikely... chasing a bit of a tinfoil here, but is that like... something that people do? I am relatively new to mafia (probably about 15 games or so), so idk if that is like a known strategy or not.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:05 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:51 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:42 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:34 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:31 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:29 pm Grogu vaguely claimed information on day 2 that implied that falcon had targeted alison. barring this being a shot in the dark and a wolf claiming information based on nothing for no reason, my guess is that somehow grogu either knew that falcon targeted alison or at least knew falcon or alison's role or something that would lead to him making this conclusion.
Grogu had an inventor handing him inventions, didn't he?

Most of the wolf fakeclaims MAKE SENSE for them, like the BoS messenger and the wolf messenger.

Tony's claim is that the last wolf must be a tracker, but if that was the case, the tracker's fakeclaim would have to be Marmot.

Wolves have an inventor though, and you know what role is perfect cover for an inventor? An inventor.

Everything is in the setup, all the information is there. There are clear fakeclaim pairs for pretty much everyone in Enclave, VC, and slaver, JUST LIKE JJJ designed it!

The wolves talked about inventors multiple times. They knew one existed. Grogu used inventions almost assuredly. Neither Nook nor Sloonei made indications that they used inventions. Why wouldn't they hint if it meant possibly clearing someone?
bad news, jack flipped inventor. and he didn't claim my role. because I had it.
So he did. Sorry, my last few days IRL was very hectic, and when I realized this game was ongoing yesterday(gameday), I just voted sleep, and didn't follow much (I mean, I read the posts, but I didn't really think at all about the game, or apparently even look at what Jack flipped...).

Honestly think this looks even worse for you though, since Jack's fakeclaim SHOULD have been your role. You switched fakeclaims. Not all of them line up, but the fact that Chop fakeclaimed the role he did, the fact that Alison fakeclaimed the role she did, and things like the Redding doc being clear cover for the other slaver role really point to roles being matched up.
the wolf team already fakeclaimed an inventor
Can you elaborate? I'm guessing you're right since you wouldn't claim this right now if not, but I am a rep in, so please fill me in.
They claimed... Zeke? Was it?
I'm guessing "they" is Made/DoO?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:06 pm
by Seanzie
Noo, this inventor stuff is just a sham. Marmot caught you, and you wiggled out. Your fakeclaim is not Marge.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:07 pm
by Seanzie
Last to claim... damn convenient. @Urist , my slot was FIRST to claim. TSP was LAST to claim. Please use this information accordingly.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:08 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:02 pm TSP, weird question...

Earlier when you posted Marmot's NK data, in your analysis you labeled the possibility that scum shooting Alison as unlikely, but you didn't label the possibility of scum intentially blocking their own shot as unlikely... chasing a bit of a tinfoil here, but is that like... something that people do? I am relatively new to mafia (probably about 15 games or so), so idk if that is like a known strategy or not.
I think I labeled that possibility as conspiratorial. It defies probability in a sense, but yes I would also characterize that as unlikely.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:08 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:05 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:51 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:42 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:34 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:31 pm

Grogu had an inventor handing him inventions, didn't he?

Most of the wolf fakeclaims MAKE SENSE for them, like the BoS messenger and the wolf messenger.

Tony's claim is that the last wolf must be a tracker, but if that was the case, the tracker's fakeclaim would have to be Marmot.

Wolves have an inventor though, and you know what role is perfect cover for an inventor? An inventor.

Everything is in the setup, all the information is there. There are clear fakeclaim pairs for pretty much everyone in Enclave, VC, and slaver, JUST LIKE JJJ designed it!

The wolves talked about inventors multiple times. They knew one existed. Grogu used inventions almost assuredly. Neither Nook nor Sloonei made indications that they used inventions. Why wouldn't they hint if it meant possibly clearing someone?
bad news, jack flipped inventor. and he didn't claim my role. because I had it.
So he did. Sorry, my last few days IRL was very hectic, and when I realized this game was ongoing yesterday(gameday), I just voted sleep, and didn't follow much (I mean, I read the posts, but I didn't really think at all about the game, or apparently even look at what Jack flipped...).

Honestly think this looks even worse for you though, since Jack's fakeclaim SHOULD have been your role. You switched fakeclaims. Not all of them line up, but the fact that Chop fakeclaimed the role he did, the fact that Alison fakeclaimed the role she did, and things like the Redding doc being clear cover for the other slaver role really point to roles being matched up.
the wolf team already fakeclaimed an inventor
Can you elaborate? I'm guessing you're right since you wouldn't claim this right now if not, but I am a rep in, so please fill me in.
They claimed... Zeke? Was it?
I'm guessing "they" is Made/DoO?
yeah made claimed zeke

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:09 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:07 pm Last to claim... damn convenient. @Urist , my slot was FIRST to claim. TSP was LAST to claim. Please use this information accordingly.
no, first to claim was chop, second to claim was made.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:11 pm
by Seanzie
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:06 pm Noo, this inventor stuff is just a sham. Marmot caught you, and you wiggled out. Your fakeclaim is not Marge.
@TonyStarkPrime "Dangerous Dan McGrew" I see you.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:11 pm
by Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:09 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:07 pm Last to claim... damn convenient. @Urist , my slot was FIRST to claim. TSP was LAST to claim. Please use this information accordingly.
no, first to claim was chop, second to claim was made.
Whatever, My slot was an early claim, yours was last. You had time to prepare. You got to see Marmot's info before you claimed.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:12 pm
by Seanzie
[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:13 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:11 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:09 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:07 pm Last to claim... damn convenient. @Urist , my slot was FIRST to claim. TSP was LAST to claim. Please use this information accordingly.
no, first to claim was chop, second to claim was made.
Whatever, My slot was an early claim, yours was last. You had time to prepare. You got to see Marmot's info before you claimed.
yes and then i claimed something that (i thought) was counter to marmot's info. that doesn't seem like something a wolf would do

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:13 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
and I essentially claimed before I saw marmot's info too

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:14 pm
by Seanzie
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:11 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:09 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:07 pm Last to claim... damn convenient. @Urist , my slot was FIRST to claim. TSP was LAST to claim. Please use this information accordingly.
no, first to claim was chop, second to claim was made.
Whatever, My slot was an early claim, yours was last. You had time to prepare. You got to see Marmot's info before you claimed.
You held out BECAUSE you knew Marmot's claim was true. You said you would claim after Marmot did, and he did, but a few days went by. You only claimed after hearing his info. Marmot was more clear than you simply by balancing. You should have claimed first, and let Marmot check you, but you didn't. Why? Oh I wonder...

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:16 pm
by Seanzie
Literally the fact that Marmot died should be a big red flag. Urist expressed only thoughts about me!scum and TSP wanted to end the day yesterday when it was clear I would have been the yeet.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:17 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I'm 90 percent sure I always kill lock town urist but ok

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:17 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:14 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:11 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:09 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:07 pm Last to claim... damn convenient. @Urist , my slot was FIRST to claim. TSP was LAST to claim. Please use this information accordingly.
no, first to claim was chop, second to claim was made.
Whatever, My slot was an early claim, yours was last. You had time to prepare. You got to see Marmot's info before you claimed.
You held out BECAUSE you knew Marmot's claim was true. You said you would claim after Marmot did, and he did, but a few days went by. You only claimed after hearing his info. Marmot was more clear than you simply by balancing. You should have claimed first, and let Marmot check you, but you didn't. Why? Oh I wonder...
I literally explained this in the thread and it's because I thought marmot was a wolf

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:19 pm
by Seanzie
@TonyStarkPrime Are you ever going to link that game I asked for? I would really appreciate it.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 11]

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:20 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I did?