The Syndicate

basically sentence two players to a date on the next night and then they decide who dies (or both if they don't trust eachother ig)

weird to me that mountain dew contains more orange juice than sunkist

wait mountain dew has orange juice in it

Ew

i was also semi serious with my jay going for post count record read but yeah it's an act of suicide to use that ability on a mafioso and /gavial/

don't watch if you like orange juice

This is bizarre.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:14 am i was also semi serious with my jay going for post count record read but yeah it's an act of suicide to use that ability on a mafioso and /gavial/

I’ll probably never have the mafia-aligned record. Half of my strategy as mafia is subtle suppression of thread energy, so games don’t engage enough for it. I did drop 950 in the multiball 2019 GOC. I’m satisfied.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:20 am This is bizarre.

It’s an outed poisoner. Why bizarre?

my strongest reasons for town reading allcrab atm is that his ISO pre-day 5 from my skim was very weak/meager and this picked up as he was heading into being the last mafia alive--day 5 with made being a runaway wagon. I don't think this comes from what would otherwise be an at-the-time dejected/uninterested wolf

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:22 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:20 am This is bizarre.

It’s an outed poisoner. Why bizarre?

that he outed

I see. I think it’s fun. I appreciate a little fun in this exhausting effort.

I’m fairly sure Tangy tried to kill mafia and just kept missing. Tragic.

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

k.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:32 am I’m fairly sure Tangy tried to kill mafia and just kept missing. Tragic.

haha and then tsp subs in and goes immediately after cleared town?

Maybe it is just gnome then and my streak of being terrible at reading them continues RIP.

oh that's sus

i mean I don't disagree but

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:37 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:32 am I’m fairly sure Tangy tried to kill mafia and just kept missing. Tragic.

haha and then tsp subs in and goes immediately after cleared town?

i'm just trying to save your life

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:37 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:32 am I’m fairly sure Tangy tried to kill mafia and just kept missing. Tragic.

haha and then tsp subs in and goes immediately after cleared town?

i'm just trying to save your life

Fitting in a game of love.

Also poor belzy they were right but died on a technicality.

tsp has died he was vanilla town

*pours one out for Belzy*

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:37 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:32 am I’m fairly sure Tangy tried to kill mafia and just kept missing. Tragic.

haha and then tsp subs in and goes immediately after cleared town?

i'm just trying to save your life

thx bb

if you kill gg today I'll drink hemlock as an advertisement for philo mafia 2

if you kill gg today I'll drink hemlock as an advertisement for philo mafia 2

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:43 am if you kill gg today I'll drink hemlock as an advertisement for philo mafia 2

lol

Even though tsp is the poisoner, why we lynching him? Shouldn't finding scum be more important?

If he really think gnome is scum, cant he just poison her to prove it?

Removing a killer from the game would drastically improve the town win chance, I think. Tony is outed and simply cannot win anymore. He has no incentive to do anything we ask.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:36 am Removing a killer from the game would drastically improve the town win chance, I think. Tony is outed and simply cannot win anymore. He has no incentive to do anything we ask.

but I would

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:44 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:36 am Removing a killer from the game would drastically improve the town win chance, I think. Tony is outed and simply cannot win anymore. He has no incentive to do anything we ask.

but I would

why

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:36 am Removing a killer from the game would drastically improve the town win chance, I think. Tony is outed and simply cannot win anymore. He has no incentive to do anything we ask.

I have been saying tangy is the possible poisoner after seeing bunny and long con get poisoned, even the gnome poison was good, it clears the POE. I dont mind the lynch but is it more important than locating scum?

if you chop me today you have a poe of three. i happen to think that's probably all you need, maybe 90 percent of the time, but mayve not. Let's call the first three names in line S1, S2, and S3. If you don't chop me today, you chop S1 instead. S1 flips scum, mafia team is eliminated, I'm the outed poisoner, you win. S1 flips town, you've assigned me to poison S2. Someone dies at night, there are 8 alive the next day with S2 poisoned. Now, two factors here: first, you can chop me now and when S2 dies then you have two more chops left: my poison just took away the sleep. Even if I don't poison S2, it's either my poison or a mafia kill in the long run and I'm a semi-known threat -- and you have a poison healer (maybe) who could deal with that anyways.
So it's always at least better to chop me tomorrow than it is to chop me today.
But why would I poison S2? Because then tomorrow I could argue that you shouldn't chop me. If you chop me tomorrow, you can go through four names in the suspects list as opposed to the three of today, but if you didn't chop me you could go through five and still be able to kill me in F3. And then once in a life time, the wolf isn't in the first five suspects, and if I still have a vest, and only one person knows that, then I have a chance to win the game.

Do the math yourself.

tldr it's flat always optimal to chop me tomorrow since numbers are even rn

lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:55 amI dont mind the lynch but is it more important than locating scum?

One could argue killing the poisoner is more important, just because it's technically possible more than one mafia is still alive -- removing one kill per cycle from the game is increasingly crucial there. I do think there's only one mafioso though, in which case I wouldn't call either one more important than the other. Just get rid of one, and it's a convenience that we currently know who one is.

I think Tony is the best chop of the day. I do think the hunt should continue though for the last mafioso. I think there are good reasons to believe it's Gnome (even without Tony's wifom), and if not Gnome then the POE is decently constricted by interactions with the dead mafia.

Why did you poison the people you did tony

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:05 am Why did you poison the people you did tony

i poisoned GG because I needed to not make it look like the poisoner had taken an abrupt change of course but also because I picked up on the lover stuff and thought I could get two kills out of it.

I poisoned nanook because if that hit then the numbers game would have looked decent and i counted it out and someone had to do something about the confirmed towns and the wolf didn't seem like they were going to participate

The poisons earlier were because Tangy likes townsiding idk

10 players

Most likely alignment is 8:1:1

Chop Tony

Town killed

Enter Day 7 at 7:1

Two mischops available before a 3:1 MimLo

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

8:1:1

Chop Not Tony, hit mafia

Game over, Tony chopped next

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

8:1:1

Chop Not Tony, hit town

Town killed, another probably poisoned

Enter Day 7 at 7:1:1 with town poisoned

Still have to use up a chop on Tony, which then leaves only one mischop to LimLo after the poison resolves

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Kill Tony.

your third case is wrong do better

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:09 am your third case is wrong do better

yeah it's actually 6:1:1 where I said 7:1:1, so it's even worse

no

i mean yes

ok let's order the poe


S1
S2
S3
S4
S5
T4
T3
T2
T1

It's agreed that if you chop me today you have three chops, so you lose if S4 is a wolf. If you odn't chop me today:

Kill S1 today, assign Tony to poison S2. Wolf kills T1 at night. Then if you kill Tony, wolf kills T2 at night. alive you have S3,S4,S5,T4,T3. You have five names left, you get two more chops. You win if S4 is a wolf.

i'm not going to bed until I hear "you're right tony"

The alison n1 poison makes sense since I was a vocally anti tangy voice around that time

Just to be clear we are literally never not exeing confirmed scum with KP regardless of what mathematics you use

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:15 am The alison n1 poison makes sense since I was a vocally anti tangy voice around that time

Just to be clear we are literally never not exeing confirmed scum with KP regardless of what mathematics you use

again, not going to bed until I hear "you're right tony" even if it comes with the caveat "but I don't care"

Tangy seems devious. I think she had more up her sleeve than just wanting to help town. I bet she was trying to convince us poisoner was a town role or something.

well i'm not devious I'm going to yell at you

sleep deprivation is bad