The Syndicate

WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:22 pm

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:15 pm killing sheep/maple 110% gets at LEAST one wolf

eph's imminent death should get a wolf flip if maple is w

and then i'd look into hesitators on killing sheep/maple because the fact that neither are dead right now is wolf indicative

then deepwolves can include colin and possibly hyena?

also be sure to shoot a shot at nanook once per ita session to see if he's still a stump

what evils really silence one of their own is a big question here?

Not uncommon, used for towncred.

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:10 pm i think sheep would handle me differently as a villager

i think he'd stand by his earlier read of my track on him which in retrospect is probably actually a redcheck

there's no reason to lie about your redcheck on a dead wolf and saying you would have "softed it later" on cayvie

but idk why a wolf would target cayvie unless they rolecopped her earlier or something and why would they rolecop her anyway

and also idk if i like his maple interactions that much anymore

also what did long con do to me

and also why is DDL still alive

I've been saying sheep's claim was weird and sketchy as well and he was town reading maple for a bit but then changed his mind. Long con poisoned you. And DDL? I don't know do you think be shouldn't be? I don't feel strongly either way on him.

can we unmute hyena already please?

what happened to hyena its not in op

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:28 pm what happened to hyena its not in op

They were silenced like Tim was. My theory is evils have a set amount of times they can silence someone for and its different each time.

i have an event 6-7 may go over so hoping itas are delayed. if not might pop in for a sec at seven.

prob going drwilgy on the ita list

punchy what is your ita list and why? is it different from tim's? why or why not?

Reminder of the shot list:

Shoot Colin and wilgy until they’re dead

After Colin and wilgy are dead:
If those two also die, then and only then can you can shoot at

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:38 pm punchy what is your ita list and why? is it different from tim's? why or why not?

i haven't read tim's, looking at it now

as long as maple and sheep are at the top of the list i'm fine with whatever

also i'm assuming silencer is wolf role

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:51 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:17 pm

WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:12 pm

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:04 pm if the poisoner is village and in our poe of like 6 people they should definitely claim btw

any chance the poisoner could be neutral as well. I agree if they are village they should claim however an evil could fake claim that as well

If the poisoner claims and agrees to be leashed I don't care if they are 3P or what. They poison who town tells them to they get to live.

I poisoned Punchy. I am town. I was going to reveal after Punchy's death, ideally a scum death.

this infuriates me

this is literally so ridiculous and baseless that i might consider never playing with long con again

i've been absurdly villagery

Punchy are you still poisoned or did I just stall your death?

Either way ywyw

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:48 pm All, I have not heard from Mac yet. Strong possibility of delay but I can't promise.

Thanks so much for running this game. seems like a lot of work

Juliets brings incredibly awesome back up mod energy.
Very much appreciated.

if we're still going with tim's list of five + that spoiler list

that poe is too boring to include a wolf and feels like anni's d3-d5 shotlists which hit 90% villagers (and also organized by wolves but we'll cross that bridge if we come to it)

like it just felt like necessity of needing people to die to forward the game and not actual wolfreads or things that will actually help solve other slots

put sheep in the five and put maple in a separate tier before all of the five and i'll be fine with solving it, i don't have a great grasp on the game imo anymore

beeboy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:48 pm Punchy are you still poisoned or did I just stall your death?

i have no idea sorry

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:48 pm All, I have not heard from Mac yet. Strong possibility of delay but I can't promise.

lolmac

yall got any of them

itas?

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:40 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:38 pm punchy what is your ita list and why? is it different from tim's? why or why not?

i haven't read tim's, looking at it now

as long as maple and sheep are at the top of the list i'm fine with whatever

also i'm assuming silencer is wolf role

yeah, okay. listen up since you are a but behind.

we don't shoot hyena. you and Epignosis need to realize there will be consequences. hyena is pretty much town clear. and they can do things that clears plsyers as town or scum as well.


also

I will be looking at you, Epignosis, and tim should hyena die during the nite come day 3. if we ever get to day 3.

if you are town please pay attention to this post please. thank you ♡

[mention]PunchyTheCat[/mention] ^

Punchy there are strong mech reasons to believe sheep is a wolf if and only if iaafr is a wolf

It’s explained a little way back

Whatcha think about this

idk how much more clear I gotta be that hyena is telling the truth.

tbph I'll be extremely sad, angry, paranoid, and vengeful should hyena gets killed or shot at, via their action or by others.

Apogee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:32 pm Punchy there are strong mech reasons to believe sheep is a wolf if and only if iaafr is a wolf

It’s explained a little way back

Whatcha think about this

I remember something about this but I don't have anything in my notes. do you have more information in regards to this?

Relax. We have a shot list. If punchy shoots off it he’s fair game

Unless he hits mafia obviously

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:37 pm

Apogee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:32 pm Punchy there are strong mech reasons to believe sheep is a wolf if and only if iaafr is a wolf

It’s explained a little way back

Whatcha think about this

I remember something about this but I don't have anything in my notes. do you have more information in regards to this?

Logic got sent a red check on sheep from a dubious source

Rabbit is claiming that dubious source is Eph, who he locked up, and who is scum

So if rabbit is town and Eph is mafia

VERY high chance sheep is town

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:39 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:37 pm

Apogee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:32 pm Punchy there are strong mech reasons to believe sheep is a wolf if and only if iaafr is a wolf

It’s explained a little way back

Whatcha think about this

I remember something about this but I don't have anything in my notes. do you have more information in regards to this?

Logic got sent a red check on sheep from a dubious source

Rabbit is claiming that dubious source is Eph, who he locked up, and who is scum

So if rabbit is town and Eph is mafia

VERY high chance sheep is town

why does this make sheep town?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:37 pm Relax. We have a shot list. If punchy shoots off it he’s fair game

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:38 pm Unless he hits mafia obviously

it doesn't just go for him. it goes for anyone. I'm gonna be looking at long con too btw. I forgot to mention him.

I am feeling really paranoid right now.

beeboy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:40 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:39 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:37 pm

Apogee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:32 pm Punchy there are strong mech reasons to believe sheep is a wolf if and only if iaafr is a wolf

It’s explained a little way back

Whatcha think about this

I remember something about this but I don't have anything in my notes. do you have more information in regards to this?

Logic got sent a red check on sheep from a dubious source

Rabbit is claiming that dubious source is Eph, who he locked up, and who is scum

So if rabbit is town and Eph is mafia

VERY high chance sheep is town

why does this make sheep town?

Why would you send a real red check on your partner?

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:40 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:37 pm Relax. We have a shot list. If punchy shoots off it he’s fair game

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:38 pm Unless he hits mafia obviously

it doesn't just go for him. it goes for anyone. I'm gonna be looking at long con too btw. I forgot to mention him.

I am feeling really paranoid right now.

Yeh, if anyone deviates then they’re fair game

beeboy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:40 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:39 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:37 pm

Apogee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:32 pm Punchy there are strong mech reasons to believe sheep is a wolf if and only if iaafr is a wolf

It’s explained a little way back

Whatcha think about this

I remember something about this but I don't have anything in my notes. do you have more information in regards to this?

Logic got sent a red check on sheep from a dubious source

Rabbit is claiming that dubious source is Eph, who he locked up, and who is scum

So if rabbit is town and Eph is mafia

VERY high chance sheep is town

why does this make sheep town?

Rabbit has claimed Ephemeral is a mafia gaslighted who sends fake peeks.

So it’s almost certain rabbit and sheep are the same alignment unless there is another peek sender or something

Um guys I’m getting nervous about how insistent people are re: shotlist

Gives me vibes like mu anni

If it goes badly I’m taking a serious look at those who enforced it hard

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:39 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:37 pm

Apogee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:32 pm Punchy there are strong mech reasons to believe sheep is a wolf if and only if iaafr is a wolf

It’s explained a little way back

Whatcha think about this

I remember something about this but I don't have anything in my notes. do you have more information in regards to this?

Logic got sent a red check on sheep from a dubious source

Rabbit is claiming that dubious source is Eph, who he locked up, and who is scum

So if rabbit is town and Eph is mafia

VERY high chance sheep is town

i really shouldn't sign up for bastard games when i fully intend to take the game very seriously because then this happens

also just spent 2 hours trying to assign myself a myers-briggs personality type when i'm literally 49-51 72-28 53-47 57-43 ISTJ 0/10 would not recommend

Apogee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:44 pm Um guys I’m getting nervous about how insistent people are re: shotlist

Gives me vibes like mu anni

If it goes badly I’m taking a serious look at those who enforced it hard

yes exactly

apogee probably v

sheep can be town ig

i don't think iaafr's wolf

the ita list is literally derived from poe'ing after like 20 clearing claims

im going to be fairly adamant about it because it feels objectively correct

if you think it is mechanically acceptable to be killing any specific one of the slots whom are being shot-vetoed then feel free to protest about it

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:46 pm the ita list is literally derived from poe'ing after like 20 clearing claims

im going to be fairly adamant about it because it feels objectively correct

if you think it is mechanically acceptable to be killing any specific one of the slots whom are being shot-vetoed then feel free to protest about it

Yeah uh probably but how’d trying to do mechanical clears work out last time there can always be stuff we don’t know that alters expectation/reality

However I agree with enough of the POE that I’m cautiously optimistic but just want to bear things in mind

Apogee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:44 pm Um guys I’m getting nervous about how insistent people are re: shotlist

Gives me vibes like mu anni

If it goes badly I’m taking a serious look at those who enforced it hard

yeah. but idk. maybe it's good. lots of things to focus on.

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:46 pm the ita list is literally derived from poe'ing after like 20 clearing claims

im going to be fairly adamant about it because it feels objectively correct

if you think it is mechanically acceptable to be killing any specific one of the slots whom are being shot-vetoed then feel free to protest about it

I mean yeah. but idk

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:37 pm Relax. We have a shot list. If punchy shoots off it he’s fair game

He's already poisoned so this may be less of a deterrent...but Punchy consider that if you are town and draw ITA shots those are shots that cannot hit a wolf.

it's weird because I got sheep, and others as null so I'm not pushing them to be shot at. and them I got some i feel scummy about but they are not on the list.

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]

Also should mention that the clear on Punchy collapsed when Long Con copped to the poisoning. With Punchy already poisoned I still don't see any point in shooting at him, but he could be a wolf.

I think maybe for game action type reasons thst punchy is most likely town.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:59 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Also should mention that the clear on Punchy collapsed when Long Con copped to the poisoning. With Punchy already poisoned I still don't see any point in shooting at him, but he could be a wolf.

if you think long con is town.

mafia poisoner exists and okay fake poisoning exists too.

it's sooo much wifom

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:58 pm it's weird because I got sheep, and others as null so I'm not pushing them to be shot at. and them I got some i feel scummy about but they are not on the list.

Anyone who isn't on the list there is a reason. If a bunch of people agree that is a bad reason let Nanook know. But overcoming a reason takes more than just "tone is wolfy." Tone reads really are generally junk, tbh.

i'm somehow cleared by nutella spew

idk how take it up with the people that townread me

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:03 pm i'm somehow cleared by nutella spew

idk how take it up with the people that townread me

Since you're already poisoned it doesn't really matter...but just so you know the "cleared by Nutella spew" people haven't been calling you town for the past 72 hours, that's been me.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:01 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:59 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Also should mention that the clear on Punchy collapsed when Long Con copped to the poisoning. With Punchy already poisoned I still don't see any point in shooting at him, but he could be a wolf.

if you think long con is town.

mafia poisoner exists and okay fake poisoning exists too.

it's sooo much wifom

I don't see any reason that a w!Long Con claims poisoner there, but not saying it can't happen. What I will say is that if someone outside the POE gets poisoned Long Con dies.

mech v for near future

DaisyCloud - claimed v peek of hyena so only wolf if with hyena, which would be a dumb gambit as both were already widely v read, ita'ed and killed funnygurl
Epignosis - uh, shot speedchuck apparently?
Hyena - cop, n1 daisy v, silenced
Logic - paritypeeked with nanook, targeted by the role which iaafr claims eph has, so either rabbit is v and then logic is certainly v or rabbit is w and logic v anyways or rabbit is w this is some sort of very elaborate plank that im not going to entertain right now
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - paritypeeked with logic
sheepsaysmeep - yes
Timsup2nothin - silenced
WerewolfHunter - claimed to be dying in a couple of phases no matter what which would be a weird thing to lie about so have fun being in top tier in your dying moments rest well soldier o7

killing

cayvie - claimed to shoot ted though this was claimed by someone else but unlikely to matter
colonialbob - claimed that role that kills if its two targets are separate alignments, ted/awesome n1
iaafr - claims to be housing an effectively dead wolf eph
Long Con - punchy poison, also shot the watcher claim following event (unrelated to his own role) and im not happy about that but not super w indicative

slightly villagey roles

beeboy - skipped a night
DDL - likely medium or forging this shit and willingly putting himself through hell

--line of mech--

claims

Apogee - claimed chat disabling, yet to be backed up, hopefully self resolves if not 1 shot?
Justplayingitcool - jailkeeping on tim
PunchyTheCat - tracking, generally villagery though, poisoned anyway

no claims

ColinIsCool - said he's fully ok with his death so im fully ok with his death
DrWilgy - wilgy
sabie12 - im still peeking this
Sprityo - sprityo

Maple - lol