Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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WHAT?? You talking crazy son!timmer wrote:Sometimes living in the mountains sucks.
LOL, it doesn't suck very often. in fact, I do feel that moving here was one of the smartest things I've ever done.indiglo wrote:WHAT?? You talking crazy son!timmer wrote:Sometimes living in the mountains sucks.
Agreed.DharmaHelper wrote:Lawmakers do not have the time to explain that hidden in this book, Heureusemen, to be sure.
So glad I can talk. I know this may be quite a proposition but maybe we should look at people who vote twice in a row for the same person to determine those who were hexed. We could possibly eliminate the "hexees" as being on Skeletor's team. I mean, I'm sure someone was hexed night one, yes?indiglo wrote:I would be happy to go fight the Webstor. Let me remind you that I just recently ate some spider, so I am familiar with their weaknesses.And due to my prolonged silence from the spider, I have an ax to grind with all of spider kind.
It's looking to me like the lynches only occur after the night periods end - well, that's how it's happened so far. So I don't really understand how they're working mechanics/vote-wise, but both dead people so far have been "lynched" and it's happened after night ended.
It seems very likely that MP was forced to vote a certain way. Let's see what happens next day period too - because of how the "spell" works, at least as I read & understood it. With that in mind, since it's Skeletor who forced the vote... how likely do we think it is that he'd force the vote for someone on their team, who gets stronger the more votes they receive?
Not necessarily. There are a lot of role-blocking powers.Kate wrote:So glad I can talk. I know this may be quite a proposition but maybe we should look at people who vote twice in a row for the same person to determine those who were hexed. We could possibly eliminate the "hexees" as being on Skeletor's team. I mean, I'm sure someone was hexed night one, yes?indiglo wrote:I would be happy to go fight the Webstor. Let me remind you that I just recently ate some spider, so I am familiar with their weaknesses.
It's looking to me like the lynches only occur after the night periods end - well, that's how it's happened so far. So I don't really understand how they're working mechanics/vote-wise, but both dead people so far have been "lynched" and it's happened after night ended.
It seems very likely that MP was forced to vote a certain way. Let's see what happens next day period too - because of how the "spell" works, at least as I read & understood it. With that in mind, since it's Skeletor who forced the vote... how likely do we think it is that he'd force the vote for someone on their team, who gets stronger the more votes they receive?
Linki: Take it easy, FH! You almost got one lynch vote (but didn't). I even said I preferred to let you have your say before voting for you. No harm, no foulFlyin' High wrote:Being silenced really stunk! Especially because a few people brought up my name as suspicious and even considered voting for me without giving me any chance to defend (I'm looking at you, Russ).
I had quite a few thoughts while silenced that I took notes on and once I've had my morning coffee will post them.
You are digging your self into a hole now!DharmaHelper wrote:But I must say that I do not quite understand the game is garbage. I do not know how many people will be affected.
Sure, not for certain but most probably.thellama73 wrote:Not necessarily. There are a lot of role-blocking powers.Kate wrote:So glad I can talk. I know this may be quite a proposition but maybe we should look at people who vote twice in a row for the same person to determine those who were hexed. We could possibly eliminate the "hexees" as being on Skeletor's team. I mean, I'm sure someone was hexed night one, yes?indiglo wrote:I would be happy to go fight the Webstor. Let me remind you that I just recently ate some spider, so I am familiar with their weaknesses.
It's looking to me like the lynches only occur after the night periods end - well, that's how it's happened so far. So I don't really understand how they're working mechanics/vote-wise, but both dead people so far have been "lynched" and it's happened after night ended.
It seems very likely that MP was forced to vote a certain way. Let's see what happens next day period too - because of how the "spell" works, at least as I read & understood it. With that in mind, since it's Skeletor who forced the vote... how likely do we think it is that he'd force the vote for someone on their team, who gets stronger the more votes they receive?
I know I can't.blindfaeth wrote:BTW I'm not sure I understand why people think Roxy & Kate have a connection is there anyone who can explain this to me please?
Ditto Russ. I am glad I am able to speak again, but I'm not too sure why. This is a complicated game and my thoughts are quite muddled right now.Russtifinko wrote:Wow, this game is crazy! I no longer have any idea ad to what is going on, and I don't even trust my own thoughts and suspicions any more. I think I may have gotten myself in too deep by joining such a complex game as a first-timer. (Can I get a holla, Snow Dog? Indiglo?)
You are free to try and I hope you end up being right, but as for myself, I am convinced that timmer is Zodac and I don't want to mess with a god-like entity.Elohcin wrote: I can hardly wrap my mind around this, but wouldn't put it pass Epignosis. I say we vote Timmer again and see if we can't figure it all out. llama, you say that if we do this we may end up lynching some random player. But, just because it happened once, doesn't mean it will happen again.
I like your thinking. hadn't occurred to me but you may well be right.Elohcin wrote:Ditto Russ. I am glad I am able to speak again, but I'm not too sure why. This is a complicated game and my thoughts are quite muddled right now.Russtifinko wrote:Wow, this game is crazy! I no longer have any idea ad to what is going on, and I don't even trust my own thoughts and suspicions any more. I think I may have gotten myself in too deep by joining such a complex game as a first-timer. (Can I get a holla, Snow Dog? Indiglo?)
Sorry about posting my vote. Rob's not playing favorites, llama. As I was voting, he hollered from the kitchen, "Don't forget to post who you voted, you don't want people to think you are doing a drive-by voting."
BF has an interesting theory -
Also, I also wanted to point out that I was surprised Roxy turned up Evil Lyn. If you go back to the vote Day 1, she voted after FH, threw it away essentially. On someone who wasn't in danger of being lynched. And then He-Man voted for Boomslang and tied us up. It just surprised me she didn't vote for me to be lynched to try and save her teammate, it was only 1 vote apart. Which sort of leads me to my conspiracy theory, I don't necessarily believe it whole-heartedly but I wanted to get a feel for people's opinions of it.
So we lynch Timmer and Roxy dies in his place. And she is revealed as Evil Lyn. But is she? I think what I pointed out above is kind of alarming enough to make you go "why did she do that"? Maybe its because she wasn't on the snake mountain team. Maybe Timmer is Evil Lyn, instead. All her role says in the host post is "Secrets". I would like to bring attention to the fact that the host called Evil Lyn an "illusionist" when we were all cheering that she was dead. Interesting choice of word, I wonder if the "secret" is something like 'you may switch a lynch to someone else and you make the illusion that they are your role'. I know I may be wayyy off base here, but something just really bothers me about the whole situation.
I can hardly wrap my mind around this, but wouldn't put it pass Epignosis. I say we vote Timmer again and see if we can't figure it all out. llama, you say that if we do this we may end up lynching some random player. But, just because it happened once, doesn't mean it will happen again.
So in this theory, might Skeletor want people to vote for Timmer?Elohcin wrote:Ditto Russ. I am glad I am able to speak again, but I'm not too sure why. This is a complicated game and my thoughts are quite muddled right now.Russtifinko wrote:Wow, this game is crazy! I no longer have any idea ad to what is going on, and I don't even trust my own thoughts and suspicions any more. I think I may have gotten myself in too deep by joining such a complex game as a first-timer. (Can I get a holla, Snow Dog? Indiglo?)
Sorry about posting my vote. Rob's not playing favorites, llama. As I was voting, he hollered from the kitchen, "Don't forget to post who you voted, you don't want people to think you are doing a drive-by voting."
BF has an interesting theory -
Also, I also wanted to point out that I was surprised Roxy turned up Evil Lyn. If you go back to the vote Day 1, she voted after FH, threw it away essentially. On someone who wasn't in danger of being lynched. And then He-Man voted for Boomslang and tied us up. It just surprised me she didn't vote for me to be lynched to try and save her teammate, it was only 1 vote apart. Which sort of leads me to my conspiracy theory, I don't necessarily believe it whole-heartedly but I wanted to get a feel for people's opinions of it.
So we lynch Timmer and Roxy dies in his place. And she is revealed as Evil Lyn. But is she? I think what I pointed out above is kind of alarming enough to make you go "why did she do that"? Maybe its because she wasn't on the snake mountain team. Maybe Timmer is Evil Lyn, instead. All her role says in the host post is "Secrets". I would like to bring attention to the fact that the host called Evil Lyn an "illusionist" when we were all cheering that she was dead. Interesting choice of word, I wonder if the "secret" is something like 'you may switch a lynch to someone else and you make the illusion that they are your role'. I know I may be wayyy off base here, but something just really bothers me about the whole situation.
I can hardly wrap my mind around this, but wouldn't put it pass Epignosis. I say we vote Timmer again and see if we can't figure it all out. llama, you say that if we do this we may end up lynching some random player. But, just because it happened once, doesn't mean it will happen again.
I will look into this theory more.thellama73 wrote:Elohcin wrote:
You are free to try and I hope you end up being right, but as for myself, I am convinced that timmer is Zodac and I don't want to mess with a god-like entity.
Everyone should reread what Rob wrote about the attempted lynch on timmer. That doesn't sound like an evil illusionist to me, it sounds like a dispassionate deity.Epignosis wrote:
Yet timmer seemed altogether unconcerned. He sat alone atop a grassless hillock, facing away from the group, as though some other revelation lay on the horizon.
The untrusting multitude advanced upon him, and as they drew near, he stood and turned. He looked vaguely sympathetic for them. His countenance remained unchanged as the flood of aggression began.
Each attempt on his person was knocked away swiftly, parried with such a speed that he became a blur, an indistinct nexus of motion, countering each and every antagonistic stroke with promptness and precision. No one could land a proper blow, and many of timmer’s assailants came away with minor injuries themselves. After an exhausting several minutes, they one by one started to abandon their violent pursuit.
Winded and bewildered, they all glanced at one another, and then back at timmer, who by then was looking indifferently away from them again.
“It cannot be said,” his flat voice answered, “that I did not warn you.”
No, not an over-reaction--Russ hadn't mentioned me at all before I was silenced and I found it odd because he mentioned the possibility of voting for me in more than one post while I was silenced. Just felt very opportunistic to me. And he wasn't the only one that mentioned suspecting me while I was silenced and it stood out to me at the time so I commented on it.He-Man wrote:Yes russ slight over reaction from FH there tbh I got my eye on FH
You say my vote pattern looks bad in retrospect--however, voting Wind Raider on Day 0 doesn't mean I'm bad. And why is voting LT for the shield suspect? The only vote of mine that I agree doesn't make me look good is voting for blindfaeth on Day 1 and I've defended as best I can about that decision.Russtifinko wrote:He-Man, great to hear from you! I don't think anyone is giving timmer "civvie cred" just yet. I think he's getting "probably indie and we're not sure of his alignment" cred, coupled with "there's a reasonable chance we would be wasting our time lynching him again today anyway" cred. We can always continue to keep an eye on him.
I believe you mentioned FH as a suspect; I'm inclined to agree. Her vote pattern looks kind of bad in retrospect (ie Wind Raider, Boomslang, LT for the shield). I'm also still not crazy about what I remember as being very pro-Boomslang posts from BWT on Day 1. I'm not sure either of those ideas are enough to lynch someone on; in fact, I was hesitant even to post them. However, there doesn't seem to be much else to go on at the moment.
How exactly am I flying low? Before being silenced for an entire day I was among the top 10 posters in this game and I feel that I've contributed quite a bit to discussion.He-Man wrote:reywas I have a BIG eye on him he simply has been taking a back seat I want to see much more from him. his vote history is meh .. FH too she is pinging me as someone flying low right now, she has not been very helpful same with Space daisy tbh what she has made like 7 posts or something, and what has she said not a fat lot tbh.
This was something I was thinking about after becoming silenced and looking at who voted what options in the food poll Night 2. First it took me awhile to understand what you were even talking about then I remembered that the Stridor voters got to pick a location to learn info about from BF mentioning that Day 1 (I seriously reread Epig's posts like 3 times trying to see if I missed something that said I had to pick a locationMovingPictures07 wrote:As to each option corresponding to a team, that's an interesting theory. Definitely a possibility. However, I'm not sure it is.
As to info, that's an interesting response from Robert, and makes me now wonder why no one brought this up before. Did any of the Stridor voters select this forest as their location to learn info about? Because I did not pick this location. Seeing as no one has stated they had info, either no one picked this location OR a baddie picked this location and didn't reveal that they had info.
Should we be sharing which location we chose to learn about? I don't see the harm in it, personally, but want to be sure.
). Once the lightbulb clicked on in my head, I decided to compare the Stridor voters to what they chose to eat on Night 2 and see how many picked Furlong as an option since Furlong appears to have been the most beneficial of the options based on the descriptions in Epig's posts.Five of the nine Stridor voters did choose Furlong as one of their food options. Additionally, there were six players who chose to eat Furlong that were not Stridor riders. What I wondered is if some of those players who chose Furlong knew that it would be an option that would benefit them from having chosen Stridor and I guess also choosing the right location to learn info about. And if that is the case, then perhaps some of the people that chose Furlong that weren't Stridor riders possibly have BTSC with someone who did choose Stridor on Day 0. I hope that theory made sense. I can analyze this further if people think there might be something to it.Epignosis wrote:Those who had swallowed bits of the Abyss Spider grew pale. It grew difficult to breathe. It was as though some thick substance coated their esophagi and made it swell, shoving their windpipes aside. Their tongues likewise swelled, hanging thickly from their mouths. They tried to scream. Any word that made it from their disconcerted minds suffocated before emerging from their lips. After some time, they gave up trying to speak altogether; it was enough of a chore to gather air into their desperate lungs.
The chimparilla meat seemed decent, but all of the its eaters agreed that they felt vaguely unsettled having eaten it, as though they had violated some unknown rule of nature.
Crawler meat was unpleasantly tough, but it might have been quite appetizing well-seasoned and braised.
Of the wild offerings, the furlong meat proved both the most satisfying and refreshing. A few among them felt so invigorated that they claimed they could deal with any challenge that came their way, much to the chagrin of those who had made other choices.
I was going to pull the quote up, but yeah, that's the main reason. I'm still trying to figure out what happened to DH and what this lynch means.Kate wrote:I know I can't.blindfaeth wrote:BTW I'm not sure I understand why people think Roxy & Kate have a connection is there anyone who can explain this to me please?
She voted for me for the shield, that's all I see. My guess is she saw my civvie game and tried to make herself look civvie by throwing a vote my way.
I have never read into this type of thing. Personally, I have never seen a host give role hints in posts like this, so until I see Epig come out and say that, yes, he is putting out role hints in his posts rather than just telling a story, I am not just going to assume that Timmer is uninterested indy. I find your insistence that we give up on Timmer quite suspicious tbh. You say that we shouldn't "waste time" lynching someone that can't be lynched, but you still don't even acknowledge the other possibility...that Timmer is actually the baddie that gets stronger the longer the game goes on!! What if Timmer is actually that role? Why in the world would we want to keep him around?thellama73 wrote:Everyone should reread what Rob wrote about the attempted lynch on timmer. That doesn't sound like an evil illusionist to me, it sounds like a dispassionate deity.Epignosis wrote:
Yet timmer seemed altogether unconcerned. He sat alone atop a grassless hillock, facing away from the group, as though some other revelation lay on the horizon.
The untrusting multitude advanced upon him, and as they drew near, he stood and turned. He looked vaguely sympathetic for them. His countenance remained unchanged as the flood of aggression began.
Each attempt on his person was knocked away swiftly, parried with such a speed that he became a blur, an indistinct nexus of motion, countering each and every antagonistic stroke with promptness and precision. No one could land a proper blow, and many of timmer’s assailants came away with minor injuries themselves. After an exhausting several minutes, they one by one started to abandon their violent pursuit.
Winded and bewildered, they all glanced at one another, and then back at timmer, who by then was looking indifferently away from them again.
“It cannot be said,” his flat voice answered, “that I did not warn you.”
I acknowledge it. I just don't think it's likely. For that to be true, all the members of his own team, as well as the opposing baddie team would have to have voted for him, which means that they would have had to know that he would survive the attempt and not be worried about tipping their hand.reywaS wrote:You say that we shouldn't "waste time" lynching someone that can't be lynched, but you still don't even acknowledge the other possibility...that Timmer is actually the baddie that gets stronger the longer the game goes on!! What if Timmer is actually that role? Why in the world would we want to keep him around?
on everyone who voted for him.I viewed the meat choices with suspicion. Which is why I chose only one. I went for the one that seemed the best for me. I certainly would never have chosen spider or snake. I was torn between the monkey creature and the cat. I chose the latter as a personal preference.Flyin' High wrote:
Five of the nine Stridor voters did choose Furlong as one of their food options. Additionally, there were six players who chose to eat Furlong that were not Stridor riders. What I wondered is if some of those players who chose Furlong knew that it would be an option that would benefit them from having chosen Stridor and I guess also choosing the right location to learn info about. And if that is the case, then perhaps some of the people that chose Furlong that weren't Stridor riders possibly have BTSC with someone who did choose Stridor on Day 0. I hope that theory made sense. I can analyze this further if people think there might be something to it.
And for now I want to reread the last couple of days in the game to see if anything new sticks out to me.
Wait, what? Are you talking about the day where everyone voted for Timmer? I'm not sure I follow your logic here.thellama73 wrote:I acknowledge it. I just don't think it's likely. For that to be true, all the members of his own team, as well as the opposing baddie team would have to have voted for him, which means that they would have had to know that he would survive the attempt and not be worried about tipping their hand.reywaS wrote:You say that we shouldn't "waste time" lynching someone that can't be lynched, but you still don't even acknowledge the other possibility...that Timmer is actually the baddie that gets stronger the longer the game goes on!! What if Timmer is actually that role? Why in the world would we want to keep him around?
Feel free to vote for timmer, but if he survives a second lynch attempt, I will have MY
No, no. I mean the upcoming vote (Day 4). Sorry for the confusion.reywaS wrote:
Wait, what? Are you talking about the day where everyone voted for Timmer? I'm not sure I follow your logic here.
It's tragic, isn't it?DharmaHelper wrote:The Statute, at least now, also comes with games, died in the intricacies. Promotions
You are suggesting that if Timmer was a baddie, his team mates would never vote for him? Baddies vote for team mates all the time...especially in a circumstance like a lynch where everyone votes the same. It would be silly for them to not vote Timmer in that instance.thellama73 wrote:Okay, on the previous vote for timmer, the vote was almost unanimous. That means that both baddie teams had to vote for timmer. Why would they do that if he was one of their own, unless they knew he would survive and they didn't think his survival would give us a clue to his identity? It's possible, but it seems unlikely. If he were an indie, neither baddie team would have a reason not to vote for him, as they would likely assume him to be a civvie.
Second, I think he is an indie, in which case only baddies have an incentive to vote for him. Therefore, I will assume that people who vote for him in upcoming days are probably baddies.
Hope that clears things up.
How would you have any clue on what Modullok's abilities are? Surviving a lynch is not that hard of a thing to imagine.thellama73 wrote:Another thought on the "timmer = Modullok" theory. What in the world would make you think that a role whose power is "grows stronger the longer he fights" would survive a lynch on Day 2?
This is Lewis Carroll nonsense talk. Come on, people, keep your head in the game!