The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:52 pm What. That's exactly what scum want to do lol that's my point.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:11 pm From what I see of nutella's posts, she is very set on getting speed lynched. And speed is trying very hard in this game, which makes him a threat to town.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:09 pm Scotty, Long Con, Lapluie, and Vompatti.

I have little reason not to lynch any of these. Weigh in. I feel like half the game is here, and half of those players are playing.

Fractal wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:47 pm Just gonna mention briefly before I post my readslist that I agree with Speed that we should probably ignore the whole ramses stuff because:

1. It takes effort we can use for scum hunting
2. It's something scum can genuinely put their mind to and look town for it. (unlike scum hunting, since they need to fake it all)

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@sig

Speed posting ISO reads and trying is freaking me out.

Wondering about 2 things here. Are you worried for the same reason Colin was that he's "super-towning" as scum as someone called it?
You comment in general about what he's doing, but do you have any thoughts about his actual content in his ISOs then? Because if for example I was worried from someone doing a lot of work, my initial reaction would be to actually try to read into the content and determine if it was real or faked. So any thoughts on the things he's actually said?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:09 pm Scotty, Long Con, Lapluie, and Vompatti.

I have little reason not to lynch any of these. Weigh in. I feel like half the game is here, and half of those players are playing.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:11 pm From what I see of nutella's posts, she is very set on getting speed lynched. And speed is trying very hard in this game, which makes him a threat to town. I don't like that look on nutella. She also seems needlessly concerned with the King Ramses sock puppet account. At this point I don't see a reason to be concerned with a sock puppet account that posts random weird videos. And she's voting Lapluie, who I'm also looking at. So they are probably not team mates.

Lapluie looks like low-hanging fruit to me right now. She had a bit of a slow start, and appears to be struggling to keep up. I don't have reason to think she's not town, and I don't want to lynch her today, but I'll definitely be keeping my eye on her.

In fact, after looking at lapluie's posts, if just makes nutella seem that much more scummy for jumping from speed to lapluie. It's like she realized speed wasn't going down easy, so she found a easier target.

Vompatti wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:19 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:09 pm Scotty, Long Con, Lapluie, and Vompatti.

I have little reason not to lynch any of these. Weigh in. I feel like half the game is here, and half of those players are playing.

Which half though?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:14 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:11 pm From what I see of nutella's posts, she is very set on getting speed lynched. And speed is trying very hard in this game, which makes him a threat to town.

*raises eyebrow*

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:24 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:14 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:11 pm From what I see of nutella's posts, she is very set on getting speed lynched. And speed is trying very hard in this game, which makes him a threat to town.

*raises eyebrow*

Ugh, no. I meant that made you a threat to mafia. My bad.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:27 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:24 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:14 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:11 pm From what I see of nutella's posts, she is very set on getting speed lynched. And speed is trying very hard in this game, which makes him a threat to town.

*raises eyebrow*

Ugh, no. I meant that made you a threat to mafia. My bad.

TINNNNNNNN FOIL MODE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACTIVE!

That was a Freudian slip, they're both mafia and him trying hard = threat to town.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:29 pm I also most likely not be around for end game my uncle broke his ribs bowling, he someone slipped fell into the gutter and then broke two ribs in the front and one in the back, sooooooooooo I gotta do some yard work for them around EOD I think.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:23 pm

Vompatti wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:19 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:09 pm Scotty, Long Con, Lapluie, and Vompatti.

I have little reason not to lynch any of these. Weigh in. I feel like half the game is here, and half of those players are playing.

Which half though?

insertnamehere
Kylemii
lapluie
Long Con
Marmot
nijuukyugou
Golden
Scotty

Here:
Vompatti

Here and Playing:
juliets
Lunalee
nutella
sig
speedchuck
ColinIsCool
Fractal
Turnip Head

Okay, my feelings weren't quite right.
You don't get to qualify as playing unless you give me a solid read though, right here today.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:30 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:29 pm I also most likely not be around for end game my uncle broke his ribs bowling, he someone slipped fell into the gutter and then broke two ribs in the front and one in the back, sooooooooooo I gotta do some yard work for them around EOD I think.

*cringing*

Tell him that online anonymous people wish him well

Vompatti wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:33 pm Very well, I shall read you as mafia on account of overenthusiasm.

[VOTE: speed] aubergine

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:11 pm From what I see of nutella's posts, she is very set on getting speed lynched. And speed is trying very hard in this game, which makes him a threat to town. I don't like that look on nutella. She also seems needlessly concerned with the King Ramses sock puppet account. At this point I don't see a reason to be concerned with a sock puppet account that posts random weird videos. And she's voting Lapluie, who I'm also looking at. So they are probably not team mates.

Lapluie looks like low-hanging fruit to me right now. She had a bit of a slow start, and appears to be struggling to keep up. I don't have reason to think she's not town, and I don't want to lynch her today, but I'll definitely be keeping my eye on her.

In fact, after looking at lapluie's posts, if just makes nutella seem that much more scummy for jumping from speed to lapluie. It's like she realized speed wasn't going down easy, so she found a easier target.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:42 pm You guys are making a mistake voting for me. I might not be right about speed or about lap for that matter but at least I am not holding back on stating an unpopular opinion. Why does that look bad?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:42 pm You guys are making a mistake voting for me. I might not be right about speed or about lap for that matter but at least I am not holding back on stating an unpopular opinion. Why does that look bad?

You're, like, the only suspicious player that's actually around, except for Vompatti and nobody thinks anything about Vomp for some reason.

Would you rather lynch Long Con or Vompatti, if given the options?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:49 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:42 pm You guys are making a mistake voting for me. I might not be right about speed or about lap for that matter but at least I am not holding back on stating an unpopular opinion. Why does that look bad?

You're, like, the only suspicious player that's actually around, except for Vompatti and nobody thinks anything about Vomp for some reason.

Would you rather lynch Long Con or Vompatti, if given the options?

Long con

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:44 amLapluie - light scum
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Voted for Scotty (Which I accidentally wrote as skittle). Reason: Him going for an easy lynch.
The horror she feels at the deaths of Dom and DDL almost seems fake.
Early post said she "barely said anything that looked sus" when she actually hadn't said ANYTHING, sus or not. IDK. Fruedian error, attributing scum comments to herself?
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ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:53 pm I have no qualms lynching Long Con. Then again, I pretty much felt like that about Dom.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:20 pmI hesitated with Kyle because I was too eager to give him town cred in UP and it was not good. He feels like he’s just dipping his toes in.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:43 pmKyle: Most of his on topic posts have been surrounding King Ramses he even checked out the wiki and posted about it, which in theory looks good BUT Ramses is 3p, who mafia might need to kill so it would be a good way for mafia to hunt and be involved in a single scum game. Light scum read.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:57 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:20 pmI hesitated with Kyle because I was too eager to give him town cred in UP and it was not good. He feels like he’s just dipping his toes in.

thats just who i am as a person. like ddl said I'm a trash man that crawls out of the trash can as the game moves forward

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:54 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:53 pm I have no qualms lynching Long Con. Then again, I pretty much felt like that about Dom.

What about the Vomp?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:11 pm Back from lunch.

Lots of tasty giblets being posted.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:51 pm Ugh I have the worst headache in the world today and am barely functional at work so I apologize in advance if I don't get much hunting in today. I still have a bad feeling about speed, it feels like he is trying too hard. I also think Kyle is not looking good and would like to see more content from him.

I don't actually know whether this is genuine or not. My last two town games (and my last scum game) have been super undisciplined, so I could see where you are drawing that from.

And my problem with it not being 'genuine' is that, if you are scum, you chose me as someone to lead a train against. Am I really the easy mislynch scum looks for? (Granted, I was lynched first in a few of my games on this site, but still.)

I lean toward this line of suspicion being genuine. Colin was bothered by it too, and he's in my top town ranks.

Nutella's suspicion toward me is her one biggest towny redeeming factor. I want thoughts on this.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:51 pm Ugh I have the worst headache in the world today and am barely functional at work so I apologize in advance if I don't get much hunting in today. I still have a bad feeling about speed, it feels like he is trying too hard. I also think Kyle is not looking good and would like to see more content from him.

Fractal wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:47 pm Readslist time!

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:07 pm

Fractal wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:47 pm Readslist time!

in the quoted post, which colors mean what? you included blue and had orange as null read which I'm not used to. what are the tiers?

Fractal wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:02 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:11 pm Back from lunch.

Lots of tasty giblets being posted.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:51 pm Ugh I have the worst headache in the world today and am barely functional at work so I apologize in advance if I don't get much hunting in today. I still have a bad feeling about speed, it feels like he is trying too hard. I also think Kyle is not looking good and would like to see more content from him.

I don't actually know whether this is genuine or not. My last two town games (and my last scum game) have been super undisciplined, so I could see where you are drawing that from.

And my problem with it not being 'genuine' is that, if you are scum, you chose me as someone to lead a train against. Am I really the easy mislynch scum looks for? (Granted, I was lynched first in a few of my games on this site, but still.)

I lean toward this line of suspicion being genuine. Colin was bothered by it too, and he's in my top town ranks.

Nutella's suspicion toward me is her one biggest towny redeeming factor. I want thoughts on this.

If Nutella is scum, i don't think she was trying to necessarily get you lynched by giving that read. She already gave a negative read of you yesterday, so it feels more like a continuation of that than an actual push to lynch.

From what I can see, her D1-read on you it was basically just a hunch, and today she's picked up the reasoning of Colin and sig, that you're "supertowning" as scum.

Or is there any sign of her thinking around these lines yesterday? I don't remember it in that case. I just don't see a clear progression, or that townie spark that often appear when someone is pushing a non-consensus read and feel like people aren't listening. Her reaction now is basically "I didn't even try to lynch him, stop misrepresenting me!". That's exactly my problem though. Her attitude is basically "would be cool if people scumread speedy with me, but that's not probably not gonna happen, that's ok". I'm used to people heating up and trying to convince people they're right, or at the very least to see their viewpoint on it. She's not doing that.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:00 pmHmm I can't decide if I think LC missing the vote is at all alignment indicative. Your other points on him are decent though, like Kyle he needs to get more in the game and give us thoughts.