Re: Escape From Russia [Day 0]
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:35 pm
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...Vul I have eight words I want to say in response to this post and the only thing keeping me from saying them is that I'm not sure if they'll still apply off-siteVulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:21 am I have a question. Is it normal for people on this site to claim mafia as town? I’m playing my first game here.
On principle, I scumread Hally, ted and tutuu already, because they all claimed mafia and I don’t like that.
Tutuu’s followup where she claims cop instead doesn’t make me feel better about her slot; instead, it makes me think she’s mafia, who thinks that these claims are Funny and Towny. They are not.
Hally’s post that they were being scummy on purpose reads like a mafia excuse. I do not buy it it. This is still a mafia read.
Light townread on Ash Lael for his take on NANOOK. I think it was a good take, and I like the way it was phrased. Concise, to the point, no unnecessary flair, no hedging or doubt.
Post #137 by Hally contains some useful information if Hally’s mafia. Namely, it spews Michelle town in that world. I don’t like either of the takes on Michelle even without my scumread on Hally; they feel quite forced, and the first one comes across as written in bad faith. “Oh, I was totally being scummy on purpose and they ignored it, so they are mafia for ignoring my scummy self.”
The fact it is prefaced by “at the risk of jumping the gun” is also the type of hedge I read as mafia indicative. It preemptively establishes that “the person writing the post can be wrong, and that you should consider that if you kill Michelle and she flips town.”
I also don’t like Hally’s later townread on Michelle, because it feels forced. I don’t mind the progression change nearly as much as I do mind the reasoning behind the read. “She made a read on me involving me posting a spoiler, which is towny, so I will read you town now.” It doesn’t sound genuine to me.
You could disregard my mafia reads if it is common to claim mafia here, but I think tutuu and Hally have both crossed into “mafia even outside of their mafia claims” territory.
Ash Lael is legitimately my only townread so far and even that one is light. In fact, while writing this post, I think I should shift him back to null, because my reason for townreading him is rather thin to begin with.
Arete still has not posted anything outside of their mafia range. Unsurprisingly, since they have barely posted substantial stuff.
Off-Topic: Looks like Hally is in the same club of mafia where Arete belongs as well. “People who were in Champs but still call themselves bad at mafia for some reason.” You guys are good, and I’m going to treat you with respect of your play within the game. Which means, no easy clears. Have fun, Hally, the one who did not want to feel pressured![]()
omg its arete hi areteArete wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:36 pm...Vul I have eight words I want to say in response to this post and the only thing keeping me from saying them is that I'm not sure if they'll still apply off-siteVulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:21 am I have a question. Is it normal for people on this site to claim mafia as town? I’m playing my first game here.
On principle, I scumread Hally, ted and tutuu already, because they all claimed mafia and I don’t like that.
Tutuu’s followup where she claims cop instead doesn’t make me feel better about her slot; instead, it makes me think she’s mafia, who thinks that these claims are Funny and Towny. They are not.
Hally’s post that they were being scummy on purpose reads like a mafia excuse. I do not buy it it. This is still a mafia read.
Light townread on Ash Lael for his take on NANOOK. I think it was a good take, and I like the way it was phrased. Concise, to the point, no unnecessary flair, no hedging or doubt.
Post #137 by Hally contains some useful information if Hally’s mafia. Namely, it spews Michelle town in that world. I don’t like either of the takes on Michelle even without my scumread on Hally; they feel quite forced, and the first one comes across as written in bad faith. “Oh, I was totally being scummy on purpose and they ignored it, so they are mafia for ignoring my scummy self.”
The fact it is prefaced by “at the risk of jumping the gun” is also the type of hedge I read as mafia indicative. It preemptively establishes that “the person writing the post can be wrong, and that you should consider that if you kill Michelle and she flips town.”
I also don’t like Hally’s later townread on Michelle, because it feels forced. I don’t mind the progression change nearly as much as I do mind the reasoning behind the read. “She made a read on me involving me posting a spoiler, which is towny, so I will read you town now.” It doesn’t sound genuine to me.
You could disregard my mafia reads if it is common to claim mafia here, but I think tutuu and Hally have both crossed into “mafia even outside of their mafia claims” territory.
Ash Lael is legitimately my only townread so far and even that one is light. In fact, while writing this post, I think I should shift him back to null, because my reason for townreading him is rather thin to begin with.
Arete still has not posted anything outside of their mafia range. Unsurprisingly, since they have barely posted substantial stuff.
Off-Topic: Looks like Hally is in the same club of mafia where Arete belongs as well. “People who were in Champs but still call themselves bad at mafia for some reason.” You guys are good, and I’m going to treat you with respect of your play within the game. Which means, no easy clears. Have fun, Hally, the one who did not want to feel pressured![]()
this isn't how you read Vulgard, he tries hard and cares a lot regardless of his alignmentNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:07 am I think you can read vulgard by effort/level of caring
That’s what my one game sample size says anyways so I’m going with it
the thingsHally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:37 pmomg its arete hi areteArete wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:36 pm...Vul I have eight words I want to say in response to this post and the only thing keeping me from saying them is that I'm not sure if they'll still apply off-siteVulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:21 am I have a question. Is it normal for people on this site to claim mafia as town? I’m playing my first game here.
On principle, I scumread Hally, ted and tutuu already, because they all claimed mafia and I don’t like that.
Tutuu’s followup where she claims cop instead doesn’t make me feel better about her slot; instead, it makes me think she’s mafia, who thinks that these claims are Funny and Towny. They are not.
Hally’s post that they were being scummy on purpose reads like a mafia excuse. I do not buy it it. This is still a mafia read.
Light townread on Ash Lael for his take on NANOOK. I think it was a good take, and I like the way it was phrased. Concise, to the point, no unnecessary flair, no hedging or doubt.
Post #137 by Hally contains some useful information if Hally’s mafia. Namely, it spews Michelle town in that world. I don’t like either of the takes on Michelle even without my scumread on Hally; they feel quite forced, and the first one comes across as written in bad faith. “Oh, I was totally being scummy on purpose and they ignored it, so they are mafia for ignoring my scummy self.”
The fact it is prefaced by “at the risk of jumping the gun” is also the type of hedge I read as mafia indicative. It preemptively establishes that “the person writing the post can be wrong, and that you should consider that if you kill Michelle and she flips town.”
I also don’t like Hally’s later townread on Michelle, because it feels forced. I don’t mind the progression change nearly as much as I do mind the reasoning behind the read. “She made a read on me involving me posting a spoiler, which is towny, so I will read you town now.” It doesn’t sound genuine to me.
You could disregard my mafia reads if it is common to claim mafia here, but I think tutuu and Hally have both crossed into “mafia even outside of their mafia claims” territory.
Ash Lael is legitimately my only townread so far and even that one is light. In fact, while writing this post, I think I should shift him back to null, because my reason for townreading him is rather thin to begin with.
Arete still has not posted anything outside of their mafia range. Unsurprisingly, since they have barely posted substantial stuff.
Off-Topic: Looks like Hally is in the same club of mafia where Arete belongs as well. “People who were in Champs but still call themselves bad at mafia for some reason.” You guys are good, and I’m going to treat you with respect of your play within the game. Which means, no easy clears. Have fun, Hally, the one who did not want to feel pressured![]()
please say the things! all the things
were his posts written by a villagerArete wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:42 pmthis isn't how you read Vulgard, he tries hard and cares a lot regardless of his alignmentNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:07 am I think you can read vulgard by effort/level of caring
That’s what my one game sample size says anyways so I’m going with it
Spoiler: show
tyArete wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:42 pmthe thingsHally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:37 pmomg its arete hi areteArete wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:36 pm...Vul I have eight words I want to say in response to this post and the only thing keeping me from saying them is that I'm not sure if they'll still apply off-siteVulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:21 am I have a question. Is it normal for people on this site to claim mafia as town? I’m playing my first game here.
On principle, I scumread Hally, ted and tutuu already, because they all claimed mafia and I don’t like that.
Tutuu’s followup where she claims cop instead doesn’t make me feel better about her slot; instead, it makes me think she’s mafia, who thinks that these claims are Funny and Towny. They are not.
Hally’s post that they were being scummy on purpose reads like a mafia excuse. I do not buy it it. This is still a mafia read.
Light townread on Ash Lael for his take on NANOOK. I think it was a good take, and I like the way it was phrased. Concise, to the point, no unnecessary flair, no hedging or doubt.
Post #137 by Hally contains some useful information if Hally’s mafia. Namely, it spews Michelle town in that world. I don’t like either of the takes on Michelle even without my scumread on Hally; they feel quite forced, and the first one comes across as written in bad faith. “Oh, I was totally being scummy on purpose and they ignored it, so they are mafia for ignoring my scummy self.”
The fact it is prefaced by “at the risk of jumping the gun” is also the type of hedge I read as mafia indicative. It preemptively establishes that “the person writing the post can be wrong, and that you should consider that if you kill Michelle and she flips town.”
I also don’t like Hally’s later townread on Michelle, because it feels forced. I don’t mind the progression change nearly as much as I do mind the reasoning behind the read. “She made a read on me involving me posting a spoiler, which is towny, so I will read you town now.” It doesn’t sound genuine to me.
You could disregard my mafia reads if it is common to claim mafia here, but I think tutuu and Hally have both crossed into “mafia even outside of their mafia claims” territory.
Ash Lael is legitimately my only townread so far and even that one is light. In fact, while writing this post, I think I should shift him back to null, because my reason for townreading him is rather thin to begin with.
Arete still has not posted anything outside of their mafia range. Unsurprisingly, since they have barely posted substantial stuff.
Off-Topic: Looks like Hally is in the same club of mafia where Arete belongs as well. “People who were in Champs but still call themselves bad at mafia for some reason.” You guys are good, and I’m going to treat you with respect of your play within the game. Which means, no easy clears. Have fun, Hally, the one who did not want to feel pressured![]()
please say the things! all the things
I have a one game sample size ok I’m doing my best dadArete wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:42 pmthis isn't how you read Vulgard, he tries hard and cares a lot regardless of his alignmentNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:07 am I think you can read vulgard by effort/level of caring
That’s what my one game sample size says anyways so I’m going with it
Spoiler: show
Is there a villager out there that would like to write my posts?Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:43 pmwere his posts written by a villagerArete wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:42 pmthis isn't how you read Vulgard, he tries hard and cares a lot regardless of his alignmentNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:07 am I think you can read vulgard by effort/level of caring
That’s what my one game sample size says anyways so I’m going with it
Spoiler: show
is this a scum claimLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:43 pmIs there a villager out there that would like to write my posts?Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:43 pmwere his posts written by a villagerArete wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:42 pmthis isn't how you read Vulgard, he tries hard and cares a lot regardless of his alignmentNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:07 am I think you can read vulgard by effort/level of caring
That’s what my one game sample size says anyways so I’m going with it
Spoiler: show
Yup. Scum claim here. It's the latest cool thing, right?Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:44 pmis this a scum claimLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:43 pmIs there a villager out there that would like to write my posts?Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:43 pmwere his posts written by a villagerArete wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:42 pmthis isn't how you read Vulgard, he tries hard and cares a lot regardless of his alignmentNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:07 am I think you can read vulgard by effort/level of caring
That’s what my one game sample size says anyways so I’m going with it
Spoiler: show![]()
i am studying software design and technology at uni!!!Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:43 pmDo you have graphic design skills? Are you prepared to take on a role where you hardly have to do anything, and no one really gets on your case when you don't?
[mention]Vulgard[/mention] theres another one! get em!Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:45 pmYup. Scum claim here. It's the latest cool thing, right?Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:44 pmis this a scum claimLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:43 pmIs there a villager out there that would like to write my posts?Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:43 pmwere his posts written by a villagerArete wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:42 pmthis isn't how you read Vulgard, he tries hard and cares a lot regardless of his alignmentNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:07 am I think you can read vulgard by effort/level of caring
That’s what my one game sample size says anyways so I’m going with it
Spoiler: show![]()
I don't really know, I don't actually have any authority or anything. Do you have Photoshop?tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:45 pmi am studying software design and technology at uni!!!Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:43 pmDo you have graphic design skills? Are you prepared to take on a role where you hardly have to do anything, and no one really gets on your case when you don't?
i have had some UI/UX classes
i am ... not very good at it, im more of a programmer, but, can i apply? can i do something as an interview submission, see if u guys like it?
Did he end up suspecting you scumclaimers? I read a few posts in from that big one, but I don't know how the next couple of chapters goes.Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:47 pm@Vulgard theres another one! get em!Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:45 pmYup. Scum claim here. It's the latest cool thing, right?Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:44 pmis this a scum claimLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:43 pmIs there a villager out there that would like to write my posts?Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:43 pmwere his posts written by a villagerArete wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:42 pmthis isn't how you read Vulgard, he tries hard and cares a lot regardless of his alignmentNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:07 am I think you can read vulgard by effort/level of caring
That’s what my one game sample size says anyways so I’m going with it
Spoiler: show![]()
he was wrestling with it for a while but i don’t think he does anymoreLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:48 pmDid he end up suspecting you scumclaimers? I read a few posts in from that big one, but I don't know how the next couple of chapters goes.Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:47 pm@Vulgard theres another one! get em!
Vul I have a question for youVulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:23 am That said, I don't think I should be a town leader and I generally avoid the role. I have miskilled too many townies while being in that role, and since I don't like the guilt of killing a fellow town member, doing it repeatedly and leading town into its demise isn't something I want to do as town.
so it's not how he actually writesArete wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:50 pmVul I have a question for youVulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:23 am That said, I don't think I should be a town leader and I generally avoid the role. I have miskilled too many townies while being in that role, and since I don't like the guilt of killing a fellow town member, doing it repeatedly and leading town into its demise isn't something I want to do as town.
did you intentionally alter your speech patterns for this game (or prior to this game, I guess, it's been a while since we've actually played together)
he is capable of 'writing posts that are supported by solid reasoning' as scum
ok. please lmk what your conclusion is once you’re doneArete wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:02 pmhe is capable of 'writing posts that are supported by solid reasoning' as scum
if you're looking for tells beyond just 'tHiS pOsT wAs NoT wRiTtEn By A vIlLaGeR' his thoughts are notably better as town, in the sense of having substantially more depth?
everything or almost everything he's posted as far as I've read to is something he could post as scum but I'm still catching up
+4 Putin Points for tutuu for being helpful. (It could have been +5, but you forgot one.)tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:09 pm iso good
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