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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:59 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I’m not confident about LC. I’m not sure I care. He has a way of discouraging confidence on purpose.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:00 pm
by novaselinenever
This is a true story. The events depicted took place at The Syndicate Forum in April 2021. At the request of the survivors, the names have been changed. Out of respect for the dead, the rest has been told exactly as it occurred.

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And so we come to perhaps the bloodiest chapter in the long and violent history of the Syndicate Forum. And here I'm speaking of Fargo Mafia, 2021, commonly referred to by townspeople as the "Massacre at [redacted]". Readers will note that I have chosen to file this case as a [redacted] crime, even though most of the murders took place in [redacted]. But I believe the key to understanding this complex and nuanced crime is to look at the story about this little boy.

He was born in a field and raised in the woods. And he had nothing. In the winter the boy would freeze and in the summer he would boil. He knew the name of every stinging insect. At night he would look at the lights in the houses and he would want: Why was he outside and they’d be in? Why was he so hungry and they fed? "It should be me", he said. And out of the darkness, the wolves came whispering...


Day 1 begins.
You have 48 hours to decide on an elimination.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:02 pm
by staypositivefriend
[VOTE: staypositivefriend] aubergine

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:04 pm
by tutuu
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:21 pm
tutuu wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:24 pm
Alison wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:23 pm Who's your biggest scumread tutuu?
kza
good read tutuu town
tony cute

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:06 pm
by tutuu
Cool flavor i should check it out, nice writing

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:08 pm
by Sloonei
[VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:10 pm
by tutuu
I should be thankful of how privileged i am - i have a roof over my head, i have a heater and blankets thats keeping my warm, i have cosmetic products like toothpaste, i have access to the internet and free time, im in perfect health. In the grand scope of things this is so privileged compared to so many peoples' lives. I take these stuff for granted but all these wonderful stuff ought to be appreciated. I express my gratitude

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:11 pm
by tutuu
[VOTE: superbestfriend] aubergine

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:13 pm
by staypositivefriend
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine
Yes

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:14 pm
by KZA
[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:14 pm
by Strawhenge
Wait, was there no Night 0? Or did scum try and fail to kill someone? :o

Or am I getting senile and Night 0s aren't a thing?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:16 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Strawhenge wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:14 pm Wait, was there no Night 0? Or did scum try and fail to kill someone? :o

Or am I getting senile and Night 0s aren't a thing?
They don't exist. You're confirmed town.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:17 pm
by KZA
lol sick ez derpclear

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:18 pm
by Alison
[VOTE: Al_sama] aubergine

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:19 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Town reads
falcon
Mac
Sloonei
Strawhenge

Semi-town reads
SPF
tutuu
Long Con
fingersplints
Alison*

Defer to others "town read"
Oddmerta

Most conflicted read
KZA

Not town reads
tedxtr
Nanook
Esooa
Dom
Marmot
Tony
JPIC
Michelle
BoKnows
Al_Sama

*This is a new addition, so to expand: whatever Alison's motivations, she is promoting a pretty similar view of the game to my own. It isn't identical, but there is considerable overlap. As long as she is pushing an agreeable view, it is "optimal" to let her do that. That was even true when she was mafia in the Bread game, because her associations with DkKoba were more visible as a result.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:19 pm
by Sloonei
tutuu wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:11 pm [VOTE: superbestfriend] aubergine
Why?
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine
Yes
Why?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:21 pm
by Strawhenge
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:16 pm
Strawhenge wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:14 pm Wait, was there no Night 0? Or did scum try and fail to kill someone? :o

Or am I getting senile and Night 0s aren't a thing?
They don't exist. You're confirmed town.
Haha, cool.

Time has ravaged my longterm memory.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:22 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
To be clear, the names are not ordered within tiers in that list.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:22 pm
by staypositivefriend
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:19 pm Town reads
falcon
Mac
Sloonei
Strawhenge

Semi-town reads
SPF
tutuu
Long Con
fingersplints
Alison*

Defer to others "town read"
Oddmerta

Most conflicted read
KZA

Not town reads
tedxtr
Nanook
Esooa
Dom
Marmot
Tony
JPIC
Michelle
BoKnows
Al_Sama

*This is a new addition, so to expand: whatever Alison's motivations, she is promoting a pretty similar view of the game to my own. It isn't identical, but there is considerable overlap. As long as she is pushing an agreeable view, it is "optimal" to let her do that. That was even true when she was mafia in the Bread game, because her associations with DkKoba were more visible as a result.
would you mind talking about mac for a moment? i struggle to see any of the stuff he's posted as being particularly alignment indicative for him

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:24 pm
by staypositivefriend
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:19 pm
tutuu wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:11 pm [VOTE: superbestfriend] aubergine
Why?
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine
Yes
Why?
i found your vote amusing. i have no idea if it's serious or not

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:31 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:22 pm would you mind talking about mac for a moment? i struggle to see any of the stuff he's posted as being particularly alignment indicative for him
This will be difficult to qualify in a way that is convincing, because it is a highly contextual read given the atmosphere of the thread during his first appearance. He made one initial read (that falcon is town), and did not try to put forth anything more than that, at least not right away. It was a read that mirrored my own in the moment (and it preceded the thread consensus on falcon that has come since; indeed I think Mac helped to motivate that consensus). His reasoning for that read was appropriate for me. I also appreciate his initial handling of JPIC -- some manner of suspicion, but not the sort that he actually felt like bringing up until someone else did first. I felt the same way. I had a tiny ping of suspicion to JPIC for his entry to the game and didn't bother talking about it because it inspired little-to-nothing in me. Mac's comments mirror that. Then overall his reads (1) are (2) agreeable (3) enough (4).

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:31 pm
by staypositivefriend
i think that jagged, sloonei, strawhenge, tutuu, falcon are all town (with tutuu being the least confident name in that list)

i think that marmot, oddmerta, JPIC, AL_sama, alison is a pool with at ~least~ one wolf, but probably multiple

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:32 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:36 pm
by fingersplints
I read JJJ’s “not town reads” as “next town reads” and thought how many tiers of town are there on this list :huh: :haha: then I saw some of the names on it and double checked then realised my mistake

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:36 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
fingersplints wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:36 pm I read JJJ’s “not town reads” as “next town reads” and thought how many tiers of town are there on this list :huh: :haha: then I saw some of the names on it and double checked then realised my mistake
No amount of town reads is too many based on our last game together. :smile:

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:37 pm
by MacDougall
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:19 pm Town reads
falcon
Mac
Sloonei
Strawhenge

Semi-town reads
SPF
tutuu
Long Con
fingersplints
Alison*

Defer to others "town read"
Oddmerta

Most conflicted read
KZA

Not town reads
tedxtr
Nanook
Esooa
Dom
Marmot
Tony
JPIC
Michelle
BoKnows
Al_Sama

*This is a new addition, so to expand: whatever Alison's motivations, she is promoting a pretty similar view of the game to my own. It isn't identical, but there is considerable overlap. As long as she is pushing an agreeable view, it is "optimal" to let her do that. That was even true when she was mafia in the Bread game, because her associations with DkKoba were more visible as a result.
would you mind talking about mac for a moment? i struggle to see any of the stuff he's posted as being particularly alignment indicative for him
Troubling

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:38 pm
by fingersplints
That was hopefully a once in a lifetime experience. My mafia paranoia has tripled as a result

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:38 pm
by staypositivefriend
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:31 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:22 pm would you mind talking about mac for a moment? i struggle to see any of the stuff he's posted as being particularly alignment indicative for him
This will be difficult to qualify in a way that is convincing, because it is a highly contextual read given the atmosphere of the thread during his first appearance. He made one initial read (that falcon is town), and did not try to put forth anything more than that, at least not right away. It was a read that mirrored my own in the moment (and it preceded the thread consensus on falcon that has come since; indeed I think Mac helped to motivate that consensus). His reasoning for that read was appropriate for me. I also appreciate his initial handling of JPIC -- some manner of suspicion, but not the sort that he actually felt like bringing up until someone else did first. I felt the same way. I had a tiny ping of suspicion to JPIC for his entry to the game and didn't bother talking about it because it inspired little-to-nothing in me. Mac's comments mirror that. Then overall his reads (1) are (2) agreeable (3) enough (4).
okay thanks, i can vibe w/it for now

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:39 pm
by staypositivefriend
MacDougall wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:37 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:19 pm Town reads
falcon
Mac
Sloonei
Strawhenge

Semi-town reads
SPF
tutuu
Long Con
fingersplints
Alison*

Defer to others "town read"
Oddmerta

Most conflicted read
KZA

Not town reads
tedxtr
Nanook
Esooa
Dom
Marmot
Tony
JPIC
Michelle
BoKnows
Al_Sama

*This is a new addition, so to expand: whatever Alison's motivations, she is promoting a pretty similar view of the game to my own. It isn't identical, but there is considerable overlap. As long as she is pushing an agreeable view, it is "optimal" to let her do that. That was even true when she was mafia in the Bread game, because her associations with DkKoba were more visible as a result.
would you mind talking about mac for a moment? i struggle to see any of the stuff he's posted as being particularly alignment indicative for him
Troubling
i don't have a baseline for what your wolfgame is typically like

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:47 pm
by Alison
I am interested in investigating the following people more:
- Marmot
- SPF
- Dom
- Long Con
- Fingersplints

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:48 pm
by KZA
Alison wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:47 pm I am interested in investigating the following people more:
- Marmot
- SPF
- Dom
- Long Con
- Fingersplints
what about @Michelle

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:49 pm
by Sloonei
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:19 pm
tutuu wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:11 pm [VOTE: superbestfriend] aubergine
Why?
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine
Yes
Why?
i found your vote amusing. i have no idea if it's serious or not
Why the self vote?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:51 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
@KZA why tutuu

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:51 pm
by staypositivefriend
Alison wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:47 pm I am interested in investigating the following people more:
- Marmot
- SPF
- Dom
- Long Con
- Fingersplints
why is dom on that list when he hasn't posted?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:52 pm
by KZA
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:51 pm @KZA why tutuu
I'm finding her exceedingly fake

just a hunch that's probably easier for me to perceive because she's scumreading me

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:53 pm
by staypositivefriend
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:49 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:19 pm
tutuu wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:11 pm [VOTE: superbestfriend] aubergine
Why?
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine
Yes
Why?
i found your vote amusing. i have no idea if it's serious or not
Why the self vote?
i made a spur-of-the-moment decision to selfvote when i saw that d1 started, because i thought that it would be funny

what is your read on me?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:53 pm
by MacDougall
[VOTE: kza] aubergine

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:55 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
KZA wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:52 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:51 pm @KZA why tutuu
I'm finding her exceedingly fake

just a hunch that's probably easier for me to perceive because she's scumreading me
Does her suspicion of you also strike you as fake?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:59 pm
by Sloonei
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:49 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:19 pm
tutuu wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:11 pm [VOTE: superbestfriend] aubergine
Why?
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine
Yes
Why?
i found your vote amusing. i have no idea if it's serious or not
Why the self vote?
i made a spur-of-the-moment decision to selfvote when i saw that d1 started, because i thought that it would be funny

what is your read on me?
You also joked about being mafia earlier. So that’s two times you’ve made jokes along the lines of you not being town. Why?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:00 pm
by KZA
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:55 pm
KZA wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:52 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:51 pm @KZA why tutuu
I'm finding her exceedingly fake

just a hunch that's probably easier for me to perceive because she's scumreading me
Does her suspicion of you also strike you as fake?
Yes. What do you think of her reasons?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:03 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
KZA wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:55 pm
KZA wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:52 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:51 pm @KZA why tutuu
I'm finding her exceedingly fake

just a hunch that's probably easier for me to perceive because she's scumreading me
Does her suspicion of you also strike you as fake?
Yes. What do you think of her reasons?
I don't know what they are. I just took a look. @tutuu, you said earlier in Day 0 that you felt KZA was "elaborating too much". Is that still your gripe, or is there something more?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:04 pm
by KZA
tutuu wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:33 am i just remembered kza explaining that he's omgussy mann why do u explainn ur readsss that scummyyy dudeeeee only scum explain their reads

falcon
jay
mac
alison
esooa

---

kza
like wtf is this post

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:04 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I'd appreciate if anyone that views KZA as a high-level suspect could talk to me about why. @MacDougall you're one. @TonyStarkPrime you implied something like that.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:07 pm
by staypositivefriend
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:59 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:49 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:19 pm
tutuu wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:11 pm [VOTE: superbestfriend] aubergine
Why?
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine
Yes
Why?
i found your vote amusing. i have no idea if it's serious or not
Why the self vote?
i made a spur-of-the-moment decision to selfvote when i saw that d1 started, because i thought that it would be funny

what is your read on me?
You also joked about being mafia earlier. So that’s two times you’ve made jokes along the lines of you not being town. Why?
because i am mafia, and this is my way of offsetting my guilty consicence

;)

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:08 pm
by KZA
SPF is lost wolf got it

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:08 pm
by staypositivefriend
i will say that i'm a little bit confused by sloonei's line of questioning toward me - he saw me wolfclaim multiple times in our experiences in champs, so i'm unsure what alignment indicative information he's hoping to get out of asking me why i wolfclaimed

i dont find it suspicious, just confusing

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:09 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Anyone who's bored, click on this BoKnows ISO, do a CTRL+F for "tutuu", and tell me why I shouldn't murder this poor gif-abusing lad.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:09 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:49 pm People with lots of posts (≥30) that I don't overtly town read:

Alison
Esooa
Tony
JPIC
Nanook
Oddmerta

Ideally I will make these special focuses to develop later tonight.
Sounds like a you problem tbh cause I'm townie as hell

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:10 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:09 pmSounds like a you problem tbh cause I'm townie as hell
It's always a you problem, but that's fine. :biggrin:

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:12 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Both claiming mafia and self-voting have been typical of SPF in our games together. Neither means anything to me.