The Syndicate

I feel like I fundamentally disagree with how Justin plays the game
Which makes it hart to read him as either alignment

Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:42 am I feel like I fundamentally disagree with how Justin plays the game
Which makes it hart to read him as either alignment

But no townvibes in the ISO really
Worst comes to worst they wouldn't be terrible going over

Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:07 am Okay yeah I'm totally lost here

Me too, and between Ender and Guillotine I've been basically sapped of any enjoyment of the game

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:40 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:30 am [VOTE: Justin] aubergine

Where those scumreads you promised bro?

Are you always this annoying or is this AI?

Nah, normally I'm sweet and innocent.

Reads. If you're gonna act like you know what you're doing, follow it up with spew.

If anyone knows any slot that's been blatantly coasting and disengaged with the game, ping me with it
I'll keep looking but it seems like one of those is probably our best chance at hitting today

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:16 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:43 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:30 am [VOTE: Justin] aubergine

Where those scumreads you promised bro?

I think people have deduced by this point that you're not interested in putting serious pressure, so I don't understand why bother at all? Or maybe Justin / Dana at the time were completely frozen and felt an overwhelming need to set the record straight

I am interested in putting serious pressure. I can and will push for a lynch if I don't get anything back and there isn't a better target. The vote is a promise of that.

Town needs participation.

Albeit it's not super threatening at just one vote, but still.

I have participated more than others. My scumreads will come when they come. Forcing them will not benefit anyone, as they will be inaccurate. Your pressure does nothing, and your constant badgering for reads that are similarly useless is just obnoxious.

thought about poking a Long Con post but then quickly checked a past villager game I had with him and remembered I can't read him well and hardly no one does either I think

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:29 am

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:46 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:36 pm

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:32 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:55 pm why do people wanna kill axe and ender? I feel like I missed some pages or something

Axe has been agenda-y.

It's like a 3/10 on the scum ping scale but it's not completely nothing, which makes it one of the best cases around at this point

What's his agenda, and how has he been going about it?

Sounds like you're asking me to do ISO work I don't wanna do rn

Tomorrow though I do need to give some scumreads to keep this town from murdering obvious town like ******

You're the one making the claim, so yeah it's your burden of proof. Kinda odd you need to ISO the guy to give proof of the read you just gave on the guy.


The 2nd paragraph is scummy AF

Strike that, I found you a scum Wiggin, was already pinged on Falcon but this guy is scummy scum

Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:41 am

Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:40 am Oh yeah I do actually like Felicis a bit
Now that I've established some village reads let me see who they're voting

Just Justin then
That was anticlimactic

Ender is anti-town but townie, scum are happy to jump on the wagon

Cool
Glad we can agree that Ender is a villager then

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:46 am
I have participated more than others. My scumreads will come when they come. Forcing them will not benefit anyone, as they will be inaccurate. Your pressure does nothing, and your constant badgering for reads that are similarly useless is just obnoxious.

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:44 am

You're not going to convince me of anything. I have seen evidence of the futility of TRs firsthand. I can't stop you from doing it, but I can avoid it myself.

Anyways if you want to read me I'll look at my wolf cases and see what my notecards say. The quality of my scumhunting is usually what's AI. I faked it really well last game as scum, but I do not have the energy to keep that up through this one.

Okay.

Look, I can understand you play mafia differently, and it's not like there is one unequivocal way to play mafia that is the best.

But getting input from town is how town gathers information. We don't get a lot outside of thread unless we got a power that does get info. Those people who have those roles are minority.

Town's victory requires a communal info sharing to allow for reads to be spread and for scum to slip up trying to fake those self-same reads that town are expected to make and progress.

I am not going to ask you for townreads, since you believe those provide info to scum. I don't agree with you, but your argument does have some potential merit.

I need you to co-operate with the rest of town. I don't know how it is where you come from, but here this isn't a super-hero swinging in with the best scumhunting to win the game. I give you license to re-make your reads later, I just need something from you.

Felicis iso looks fine to me for now, slightly good, but seems like a good slot to revisit sometime d2

going to need to see more progression in this game though so I can get a better understanding of their style

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:40 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:30 am [VOTE: Justin] aubergine

Where those scumreads you promised bro?

Are you always this annoying or is this AI?

Are you into killing Sig?

Tbh, as long as Justin and Axe don't have avatars and as long as we have two yeets, I don't see how we can justify leaving them both in the game.

Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:42 am I feel like I fundamentally disagree with how Justin plays the game
Which makes it hart to read him as either alignment

ftr he had apparently had a hell of a scum game that they put their all into at the Mafia Universe Championships with Game 3.

if they're laying back rn even as town then i don't mind atm

I'm leaning town but prob should monitor it

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:56 am Tbh, as long as Justin and Axe don't have avatars and as long as we have two yeets, I don't see how we can justify leaving them both in the game.

I will add an avatar if someone gives me an image that fits the required format. Otherwise, too lazy.

Yeah Falcon is a good vote to start with. Votes me off a meme post to open and then decides to tunnel it as if it was an actual read.

This post:

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:50 pm

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:48 pm If you have vig and are town, use it. We want blood

I am glad I am voting for you.


WTF kinda post is this?

Does not jive at all with their later stated justification for said post:

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:38 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:32 pm

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:54 pm If we have a vig who is revealing in blatant disregard for infosec, might as well use it before they murder you. Probably best to just kill the off wagon there

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:50 pm

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:48 pm If you have vig and are town, use it. We want blood

I am glad I am voting for you.


WTF kinda post is this?

Totally agree with Justin on this.

Shouldn't have claimed to begin with and probably gonna be either taken out very quickly or stored for a soup. So may as well make the most of power early on.

I don't see why you think it's a mafia thing @falcon45ca

Cuz it goes without saying, and doesn't need mentioning.

In their original reply they are clearly not saying "why even say this" they are pretending to be affronted at the suggestion townies want to kill people. They later backpedal and approach this from a different direction when no one bites.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:29 am

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:46 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:36 pm

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:32 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:55 pm why do people wanna kill axe and ender? I feel like I missed some pages or something

Axe has been agenda-y.

It's like a 3/10 on the scum ping scale but it's not completely nothing, which makes it one of the best cases around at this point

What's his agenda, and how has he been going about it?

Sounds like you're asking me to do ISO work I don't wanna do rn

Tomorrow though I do need to give some scumreads to keep this town from murdering obvious town like ******

You're the one making the claim, so yeah it's your burden of proof. Kinda odd you need to ISO the guy to give proof of the read you just gave on the guy.


The 2nd paragraph is scummy AF

^This post is just straight up bullshit, establishing a high burden for what I gave as a scum ping. I'm not building a case on the fucker, I'm just saying that post pinged me as scummy. And I'm still giving better reasoning for my vote than half of the clowns in this game.

There we go.

I agree with Justin on a few things at least
Falcon is totally coasting in a probably wolfy way?
It's not like they're disengaged from thread, but
I feel like their opening is
Not the opening of someone who showed up to this game to find wolves
Maybe.

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:54 am

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:40 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:30 am [VOTE: Justin] aubergine

Where those scumreads you promised bro?

Are you always this annoying or is this AI?

Are you into killing Sig?

Probably not a wagon I want to touch today, unless they start posting shit

I need to be more notable so people refer to me in the 3rd person
meow

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:59 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:54 am

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:40 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:30 am [VOTE: Justin] aubergine

Where those scumreads you promised bro?

Are you always this annoying or is this AI?

Are you into killing Sig?

Probably not a wagon I want to touch today, unless they start posting shit

They did post shit with their stance on Mac.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:56 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:56 am Tbh, as long as Justin and Axe don't have avatars and as long as we have two yeets, I don't see how we can justify leaving them both in the game.

I will add an avatar if someone gives me an image that fits the required format. Otherwise, too lazy.

This good?

Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:00 am I need to be more notable so people refer to me in the 3rd person
meow

Don't use a PR D1 if you want people to talk about you *shrug*

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:00 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:56 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:56 am Tbh, as long as Justin and Axe don't have avatars and as long as we have two yeets, I don't see how we can justify leaving them both in the game.

I will add an avatar if someone gives me an image that fits the required format. Otherwise, too lazy.

This good?

Hey, this was the image I was originally going to add, but the formatting from google wasn't right.

@Ender part of the deal here is that I was working most of the game yesterday and really didn't have time to fully go over everything. You trying to "pressure" me for reads when I was basically treading water keeping up with the thread was not helping.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:00 am

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:59 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:54 am

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:40 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:30 am [VOTE: Justin] aubergine

Where those scumreads you promised bro?

Are you always this annoying or is this AI?

Are you into killing Sig?

Probably not a wagon I want to touch today, unless they start posting shit

They did post shit with their stance on Mac.

I didn't find that particularly scummy. I will look at it again.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:01 am

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:00 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:56 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:56 am Tbh, as long as Justin and Axe don't have avatars and as long as we have two yeets, I don't see how we can justify leaving them both in the game.

I will add an avatar if someone gives me an image that fits the required format. Otherwise, too lazy.

This good?

Hey, this was the image I was originally going to add, but the formatting from google wasn't right.

just use paint 3d (or whatever version of Paint or digital image software thingy) and re-size the canvas

it's simple really

oh wait wth

you stole jack's avatar lol

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:06 pm I was just about to call Mac mafia for ignoring me. Now he's engaging me, but Imma still mafia lean on him.

This is the one @Justinrs2

As annoyingly as Guillotine is choosing to convey their thoughts, their thoughts do seem to align with what the meta here seems to view as "townie"- giving constantly updated reads and occasionally making posts calling out scummy behavior. If they can find a way to scumhunt with this it's probably best to avoid touching the slot, as sad as that may make me.

Axe had pinged me originally over this post:
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 81#p821481

I actually like it a lot more, provided Axe has experience with Wiggin, because I understand why they'd make this comment now.

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:07 am As annoyingly as Guillotine is choosing to convey their thoughts, their thoughts do seem to align with what the meta here seems to view as "townie"- giving constantly updated reads and occasionally making posts calling out scummy behavior. If they can find a way to scumhunt with this it's probably best to avoid touching the slot, as sad as that may make me.

Axe had pinged me originally over this post:
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 81#p821481

I actually like it a lot more, provided Axe has experience with Wiggin, because I understand why they'd make this comment now.

Never played with Axe before. So...?

Also:

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

And now I'm gonna crash and come back.

Thank you for participating Justin.

I kinda want Jackofhearts today, but will think it over when I'm awake.

I had to ad-block the Axehole avatar specifically so I can distinguish from the two Jack avatars quickly.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:09 am

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:07 am As annoyingly as Guillotine is choosing to convey their thoughts, their thoughts do seem to align with what the meta here seems to view as "townie"- giving constantly updated reads and occasionally making posts calling out scummy behavior. If they can find a way to scumhunt with this it's probably best to avoid touching the slot, as sad as that may make me.

Axe had pinged me originally over this post:
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 81#p821481

I actually like it a lot more, provided Axe has experience with Wiggin, because I understand why they'd make this comment now.

Never played with Axe before. So...?

Then yeah the comment is still weird. Doesn't feel solvy, don't like how they "put it to the floor" so to speak.

Not really as critical as how I'm feeling about Falcon rn but worth remembering

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:09 am Also:

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

I don't get this. The level of participation I just dropped is easy for scum to fake? I haven't developed much of a case at all and have only just started going over my thoughts on people.

Basically I do not understand how this strategy helps you at all at scumhunting, but go off I guess.

Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:46 am If anyone knows any slot that's been blatantly coasting and disengaged with the game, ping me with it
I'll keep looking but it seems like one of those is probably our best chance at hitting today

I'm at risk there

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

-Has towns or town-leans on it

Check.

-Is targeting a players I suspected before on entrance?

Check.

-blah blah blah bahl wagsmgosoigmkrgokrmlofae

Check.

I don't think I've read every single Naviya post but some of their posts on this page really felt to my gut as town

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:16 am I'm at risk there

Counterpoint: you're villagery

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:14 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:09 am Also:

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

I don't get this. The level of participation I just dropped is easy for scum to fake? I haven't developed much of a case at all and have only just started going over my thoughts on people.

Basically I do not understand how this strategy helps you at all at scumhunting, but go off I guess.

D1 participation is good for re-reading.

Until we get into last 12 hours my job is to make sure I get as many people to provide interactions and thoughts as possible so that we have more content and information to sort through later after flips.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:17 am [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

-Has towns or town-leans on it

Check.

-Is targeting a players I suspected before on entrance?

Check.

-blah blah blah bahl wagsmgosoigmkrgokrmlofae

Check.

I've only played one game with Falcon and they were killed n1 and only had 21 posts-- but the posts match up perfectly with what I've seen of village game.

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:14 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:09 am Also:

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

I don't get this. The level of participation I just dropped is easy for scum to fake? I haven't developed much of a case at all and have only just started going over my thoughts on people.

Basically I do not understand how this strategy helps you at all at scumhunting, but go off I guess.

It's not very effective. That's why we need to put Sig at L-1 and see what happens.

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:20 am

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:17 am [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

-Has towns or town-leans on it

Check.

-Is targeting a players I suspected before on entrance?

Check.

-blah blah blah bahl wagsmgosoigmkrgokrmlofae

Check.

I've only played one game with Falcon and they were killed n1 and only had 21 posts-- but the posts match up perfectly with what I've seen of village game.

I've played with him before and I've heard he can be obvious town. I've felt that before, too.

Right now I'm not feeling it so I really want to see what he does. It doesn't feel like anything he has said is outside of wolf-range, and it felt like his entrance was off to me.

Seanzie has been mentioned by others and they've pinged me, too. Could totally see the scum narrative of them being low posting scum, and the posts they have made haven't been very good.

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 26#p821326
This post is one of their only posts with content and feels more agenday than rand. I don't see town defending the TR in question:
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 81#p821281
As a townie this is not the sense I get from this post at all. That Seanzie feels compelled to vote for it is a lil weird.

Oh and btw Seanzie the post where I dismissed it as AI was right before luckbox's:
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 80#p821280

Which is why I found it weird you SR them but not me. It's a point of dissonance in your town narrative.

Wouldn't mind Seanzie/Falcon being the top 2 today, as things stand.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:21 am

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:14 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:09 am Also:

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

I don't get this. The level of participation I just dropped is easy for scum to fake? I haven't developed much of a case at all and have only just started going over my thoughts on people.

Basically I do not understand how this strategy helps you at all at scumhunting, but go off I guess.

It's not very effective. That's why we need to put Sig at L-1 and see what happens.

Dana wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:18 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:54 pm Hey @Creature

Long time, no see.

Hey new players. I’m Jack. I’m unyeetable. I’ll troll and pretend not to hunt (or actually not hunt) until I see something shiny, which is hopefully a wolf.

I don't like the vibes of this post very much at all

why?

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:20 am

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:17 am [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

-Has towns or town-leans on it

Check.

-Is targeting a players I suspected before on entrance?

Check.

-blah blah blah bahl wagsmgosoigmkrgokrmlofae

Check.

I've only played one game with Falcon and they were killed n1 and only had 21 posts-- but the posts match up perfectly with what I've seen of village game.

They could also be a more confrontational town.

Probably gonna want more than one 21 post history pointing to that, though.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:27 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:21 am

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:14 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:09 am Also:

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

I don't get this. The level of participation I just dropped is easy for scum to fake? I haven't developed much of a case at all and have only just started going over my thoughts on people.

Basically I do not understand how this strategy helps you at all at scumhunting, but go off I guess.

It's not very effective. That's why we need to put Sig at L-1 and see what happens.

I’m making this one post out of my gambit.

I belong to a very rare breed of brutally honest people. Bold, direct, very hardheaded and I’m volatile. I got a high temperament and i can be very abrasive when it comes to defend my views!

Something this generation of instant gratification, entitled, selfish, unsympathetic little pricks loathe. Now im not saying that you belong to that generation or that you are that kind of people, but im an old man, with little patience for bullshit and care about your feelings!
Which has led me to big fights with some people here and i dont want that! I came here to have fun not to let anyone provoke me into getting in an argument with anybody because then, i am the motherfucking unpleasant player to play with.

That’s why im playing with gambits from this game forward and in every game i play here at The Syndicate, where i can have fun, where i dont have to post and hurt your delicate feelings and where i dont get high blood pressure arguing with you.

So if you dont like how im playing now then you may as well yeet me, because it is not gonna change, of course without forgetting to say.

Screw your policy $&@*# reasons Scum!