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He is a Grammar Nazi so I wouldnt put stock in that lolarogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:55 amI will say that I did like Ender's attention to detail with the wording in my post with the analysis of my use of "confbias" which illustrates one who is reading/paying attention to every little detail.
its nice and small so you should be done soonLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:40 pmabsolutely nothing, i read a bit of the first few pages but it was all like scuffles that I didn't rly understand and then I went to bedMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:37 pmdo u have experience with Rondo? if so I want your take on their iso
I haven't really delved into what happened in regards to santy and their wagon
but im also curious what u managed to read from Santy, given they only started posted at some point during my work shift, in which you were busy as well
what exactly have you read in terms of the recent stuff
so im pretty fresh and will dive in soon
i'll check rondo for u
oh i didnt mean content i like santy as a person, i've read 0 of his posts lmaoMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:41 pmwhat exactly do u like from Santy when u get the chance as wellLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:40 pmabsolutely nothing, i read a bit of the first few pages but it was all like scuffles that I didn't rly understand and then I went to bedMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:37 pmdo u have experience with Rondo? if so I want your take on their iso
I haven't really delved into what happened in regards to santy and their wagon
but im also curious what u managed to read from Santy, given they only started posted at some point during my work shift, in which you were busy as well
what exactly have you read in terms of the recent stuff
so im pretty fresh and will dive in soon
i'll check rondo for u
lmaoLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:44 pmoh i didnt mean content i like santy as a person, i've read 0 of his posts lmaoMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:41 pmwhat exactly do u like from Santy when u get the chance as wellLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:40 pmabsolutely nothing, i read a bit of the first few pages but it was all like scuffles that I didn't rly understand and then I went to bedMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:37 pmdo u have experience with Rondo? if so I want your take on their iso
I haven't really delved into what happened in regards to santy and their wagon
but im also curious what u managed to read from Santy, given they only started posted at some point during my work shift, in which you were busy as well
what exactly have you read in terms of the recent stuff
so im pretty fresh and will dive in soon
i'll check rondo for u
hmmmm, ill keep this in mindMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:16 pm @Alison is Seanzie leaning into a slank-on-purpose playstyle here because he was caught on page 1 and it retroactively justifies his listless reaction to something town Seanzie should have bit at?
Or did he have that reaction in the first place because he's being slank on purpose?
because I didn't understand how they liked santy, but didn't read much of anything
You are in his scum range,Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:57 amHow does a scumEnder look like? I think I have only played with a townEnder in the past.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:55 amI will say that I did like Ender's attention to detail with the wording in my post with the analysis of my use of "confbias" which illustrates one who is reading/paying attention to every little detail.
thats also what i trd him for and what i noticed of hiim when hes town. i usually dont tend to out meta on people but since you already did ill +1 thisAlison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:23 pmI have seen no evidence that Seanzie cares at all how people read him which I think is a towntell for him. Enough pressure was generated on other slots that I don't think Seanzie would feel caught.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:16 pm @Alison is Seanzie leaning into a slank-on-purpose playstyle here because he was caught on page 1 and it retroactively justifies his listless reaction to something town Seanzie should have bit at?
Or did he have that reaction in the first place because he's being slank on purpose?
On a meta level I think scum Seanzie would try extra hard to pocket town Mac after your interactions in KotH and he has not been.
i don't know what you mean? I've been pretty open about how I'm reading things now. What about my answer was bad? I just cleared up you misunderstanding my use of "like" when I meant I like him as a person. I said I hadn't read anything recently.Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:47 pmlmaoLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:44 pmoh i didnt mean content i like santy as a person, i've read 0 of his posts lmaoMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:41 pmwhat exactly do u like from Santy when u get the chance as wellLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:40 pmabsolutely nothing, i read a bit of the first few pages but it was all like scuffles that I didn't rly understand and then I went to bedMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:37 pmdo u have experience with Rondo? if so I want your take on their iso
I haven't really delved into what happened in regards to santy and their wagon
but im also curious what u managed to read from Santy, given they only started posted at some point during my work shift, in which you were busy as well
what exactly have you read in terms of the recent stuff
so im pretty fresh and will dive in soon
i'll check rondo for u
i dont know how I feel about this answer, but it at least alleviates what bothered me
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine
We have a winner, I feel like someone asks this every game now lolarogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:01 amIs Ender bladescape?Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:57 amHow does a scumEnder look like? I think I have only played with a townEnder in the past.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:55 amI will say that I did like Ender's attention to detail with the wording in my post with the analysis of my use of "confbias" which illustrates one who is reading/paying attention to every little detail.
im sorry, but like there is a santy wagon, but I would like to vote else where, because I like them as a personLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:51 pmi don't know what you mean? I've been pretty open about how I'm reading things now. What about my answer was bad? I just cleared up you misunderstanding my use of "like" when I meant I like him as a person. I said I hadn't read anything recently.Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:47 pmlmaoLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:44 pmoh i didnt mean content i like santy as a person, i've read 0 of his posts lmaoMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:41 pmwhat exactly do u like from Santy when u get the chance as wellLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:40 pmabsolutely nothing, i read a bit of the first few pages but it was all like scuffles that I didn't rly understand and then I went to bedMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:37 pmdo u have experience with Rondo? if so I want your take on their iso
I haven't really delved into what happened in regards to santy and their wagon
but im also curious what u managed to read from Santy, given they only started posted at some point during my work shift, in which you were busy as well
what exactly have you read in terms of the recent stuff
so im pretty fresh and will dive in soon
i'll check rondo for u
i dont know how I feel about this answer, but it at least alleviates what bothered me
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine
i was? what was different to my posts when you were in your first burst?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:03 pmyeah i thought ilario was pretty towny when i was around in my second burst (when I dropped the neon scumread)arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:02 pm @MacDougall I feel that Ilario's recent posting is townie. I'd like your thoughts as well because I know you felt he was mafia earlier in the day.
Are you scum? I specifically said I am reading NOW. to form opinions. The fact you can't understand that and instead are stuck on semantics is incredibly confusingMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:52 pmim sorry, but like there is a santy wagon, but I would like to vote else where, because I like them as a personLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:51 pmi don't know what you mean? I've been pretty open about how I'm reading things now. What about my answer was bad? I just cleared up you misunderstanding my use of "like" when I meant I like him as a person. I said I hadn't read anything recently.Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:47 pmlmaoLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:44 pmoh i didnt mean content i like santy as a person, i've read 0 of his posts lmaoMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:41 pmwhat exactly do u like from Santy when u get the chance as wellLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:40 pmabsolutely nothing, i read a bit of the first few pages but it was all like scuffles that I didn't rly understand and then I went to bedMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:37 pm
do u have experience with Rondo? if so I want your take on their iso
I haven't really delved into what happened in regards to santy and their wagon
but im also curious what u managed to read from Santy, given they only started posted at some point during my work shift, in which you were busy as well
what exactly have you read in terms of the recent stuff
so im pretty fresh and will dive in soon
i'll check rondo for u
i dont know how I feel about this answer, but it at least alleviates what bothered me
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine
is not anything game related, regardless of the misunderstanding that you cleared up
what are u talking aboutLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:54 pmAre you scum? I specifically said I am reading NOW. to form opinions. The fact you can't understand that and instead are stuck on semantics is incredibly confusingMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:52 pmim sorry, but like there is a santy wagon, but I would like to vote else where, because I like them as a personLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:51 pmi don't know what you mean? I've been pretty open about how I'm reading things now. What about my answer was bad? I just cleared up you misunderstanding my use of "like" when I meant I like him as a person. I said I hadn't read anything recently.Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:47 pmlmao
i dont know how I feel about this answer, but it at least alleviates what bothered me
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine
is not anything game related, regardless of the misunderstanding that you cleared up
Ehhhh, this feels like one of those things that sound right but arent. If it wasnt Ender I might have agreed but also Mafia pay attention to the wording as much to try and trip people up on the small thingsarogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:03 am And tbh @Belzy , it's not what I'd expect from a mafia!Ender, but it's just the fundemental idea of paying attention to specific wording like that, that I think mafia lack an attention to detail of because of TMI. In the sense where Ender noticed some wording that I feel like town are likelier to catch than mafia, since mafia would read my post and not really evaluate the way I worded "mafia confbiasing a read" and just skim over it.
was it a good one?
please explain, Ender/Myself/Wisp/SPFarogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:22 am @ilario , let's assume 5 combined mafia/3p.
Leaves at least 13 town and with 18 without vig shots or anything, we have 8 kills. So a 10 towncore would do.
My towns that I have rn (different confidences) are Aro, Mac, Illario, SPF, Nanook, Wisp, Ender, Rondo.
Any thoughts on that list so far and do you have any opnions on anyone else that I don't have in there? I want to dominate this game hehe.
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:10 pm i wish there was someone i didnt like in the lobby just so i could guilt free tunnel a slot d1
ill most likely keep my vote on spf or ender today...perhaps aro but nott really because id feel bad if he flips town after the big effort he went with to work with me
im illiterate sorrysantygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:13 pm Also Wisp wtf I dont know how are you misunderstanding Lily post / intentions on what they said??
Like, they expressed to not have a read on me but they said they liked me as a person . Not a townread at any point like you are understanding I feel like? And when lily clarified you dont rescind that so... Wtf?
stop pushing on me tbhilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:10 pm i wish there was someone i didnt like in the lobby just so i could guilt free tunnel a slot d1
ill most likely keep my vote on spf or ender today...perhaps aro but nott really because id feel bad if he flips town after the big effort he went with to work with me
I like this post, I prefer to wait till we have some flips too but yeahilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:39 amhmmm id defs have alison in there, in all honesty shes the only read i feel good about.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:22 am @ilario , let's assume 5 combined mafia/3p.
Leaves at least 13 town and with 18 without vig shots or anything, we have 8 kills. So a 10 towncore would do.
My towns that I have rn (different confidences) are Aro, Mac, Illario, SPF, Nanook, Wisp, Ender, Rondo.
Any thoughts on that list so far and do you have any opnions on anyone else that I don't have in there? I want to dominate this game hehe.
whilst i agree spf,nook,ender,rondo for me personally have shown signs of towniness + belsy as well i dont feel like any of those names has done anytihing lock worthy. also imo its better to wait to form towncores until everyones posted to avoid bias
[VOTE: Aro ] auberginesantygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:18 pm Aro hasn't posted a single One Piece gif yet. I think that's pretty much outing tbh
i had you as v but enough people werent a fan of the read i walked it back. mac still thinks ur v so maybe ill walkback my walkback. i still personally wouldnt want to see you get voted out though.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:38 pmDo you?ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:42 amCheers for the heads up I’ll keep that in mind with himEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:46 amHello, this is the Rondo police telling you that Rondo is not going to panic under pressure and that's a bad read.ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:41 amrondo felt town because his response to alisons pressure wasnt overly panicky. his tone in general seems calm/at ease. i dont have much of a read on sean, if people want him then then i have no issue with that atmMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:33 amMac already did it, not you explain to me why Rondo is townilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:28 am Well I already explained the first question
The aro read exists because it felt like he didn’t know how to naturally open into the thread so he defaulted into asking that question to ease himself in. Some of the explanations to his reads and the process behind it has felt reachy and he’s felt overly-explainey at times
do we at least agree with Sean?
I dont feel like back reading and i want to go to sleep
Do you have any thoughts on rondo?
Also your thoughts on Alison ty
They haven't and still arent taking this game seriously
You are pushing Aro here but you are voting Lily now. Do you think they are partnered or if not who could be? Or have you moved to Aro town?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:40 am[/code]Code: Select all
[code]i thought he had a strong start but then he had kind of a weird sequence of posts where he:arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:34 amwhat made you change your mind on Ilario?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:33 am i change my mind about ilario being town tbh. mac takes his spot in my current towncore
Also, I'd like ur thoughts on my recent "list of townies" with varying confidences.
1. townread me weirdly quickly
2. posted a read on ender i thought was kind of meh because it wasnt really informative (ie: "i think ender is fine so far apart from these things that Werent Fine")
3. a townread on belzdy w/out explanation
4. him dropping his wolfread on you kind of weirdly quickly after u all started engaging with me
there's nothing super wrong with any of these posts, just dont see much evidence of scumhunting in them and think ilario could be just playing to pocket ppl and that i cleared him too easily
ur townread on mac is fine and i agree
ur townread on illario i just discussed
ur townread on nook is fine and i agree
dont really have a read on wisp yet but he hasn't actively pinged me so i suppose that's something
dont have a read on ender yet
think that rondo sounds nearly identical to the king of the hill mafia game we just played so without looking into his meta further i think he's town
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:17 pmim illiterate sorrysantygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:13 pm Also Wisp wtf I dont know how are you misunderstanding Lily post / intentions on what they said??
Like, they expressed to not have a read on me but they said they liked me as a person . Not a townread at any point like you are understanding I feel like? And when lily clarified you dont rescind that so... Wtf?
for legal reasons this is a joke
I unvoted, that's good enough till they catch up
I still think its silly to use "like" is pretty dismissive but hey
I'll see where they stand after they catch up
well to be clear, at the time i made that post, i did think that aro was town because the way he reacted to my push on him was out of character and overly aggressive in a way i thought was town indicativeRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:20 pmYou are pushing Aro here but you are voting Lily now. Do you think they are partnered or if not who could be? Or have you moved to Aro town?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:40 am[/code]Code: Select all
[code]i thought he had a strong start but then he had kind of a weird sequence of posts where he:arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:34 amwhat made you change your mind on Ilario?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:33 am i change my mind about ilario being town tbh. mac takes his spot in my current towncore
Also, I'd like ur thoughts on my recent "list of townies" with varying confidences.
1. townread me weirdly quickly
2. posted a read on ender i thought was kind of meh because it wasnt really informative (ie: "i think ender is fine so far apart from these things that Werent Fine")
3. a townread on belzdy w/out explanation
4. him dropping his wolfread on you kind of weirdly quickly after u all started engaging with me
there's nothing super wrong with any of these posts, just dont see much evidence of scumhunting in them and think ilario could be just playing to pocket ppl and that i cleared him too easily
ur townread on mac is fine and i agree
ur townread on illario i just discussed
ur townread on nook is fine and i agree
dont really have a read on wisp yet but he hasn't actively pinged me so i suppose that's something
dont have a read on ender yet
think that rondo sounds nearly identical to the king of the hill mafia game we just played so without looking into his meta further i think he's town
yeah but im bias because being nice to me is enough to get on my guilt strings (as far as a d1 goes)santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:11 pmilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:10 pm i wish there was someone i didnt like in the lobby just so i could guilt free tunnel a slot d1
ill most likely keep my vote on spf or ender today...perhaps aro but nott really because id feel bad if he flips town after the big effort he went with to work with me
If it makes you feel better aro just called me mafia and didnt seem to make any effort to work with me or lily which he just voted tbhtbh
IMO , that sort of attitide that you are describing I see it as NAI. Tho in their last string of post I think they had game related reads. I'm just... Not thinking much about them rn thoMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:20 pmThey haven't and still arent taking this game seriously
almost every vote feels like a meme, I think they have the worst entrance out of all the players in this game
If its as common as people say, I dont have any idea how to read them
i do also want to note that my only real concern about alison's posts so far is how she wolfread aro for his reaction testing being "performative" as though performative isnt the laziest buzzword of all time that doesnt really tell me anything about your actual thoughts behind aro's posts. felt shallow in a way that alison's reads typically are not, but i got the sense there was more behind her scumread on aro that she wasn't really explainingstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:23 pmwell to be clear, at the time i made that post, i did think that aro was town because the way he reacted to my push on him was out of character and overly aggressive in a way i thought was town indicativeRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:20 pmYou are pushing Aro here but you are voting Lily now. Do you think they are partnered or if not who could be? Or have you moved to Aro town?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:40 am[/code]Code: Select all
[code]i thought he had a strong start but then he had kind of a weird sequence of posts where he:arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:34 amwhat made you change your mind on Ilario?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:33 am i change my mind about ilario being town tbh. mac takes his spot in my current towncore
Also, I'd like ur thoughts on my recent "list of townies" with varying confidences.
1. townread me weirdly quickly
2. posted a read on ender i thought was kind of meh because it wasnt really informative (ie: "i think ender is fine so far apart from these things that Werent Fine")
3. a townread on belzdy w/out explanation
4. him dropping his wolfread on you kind of weirdly quickly after u all started engaging with me
there's nothing super wrong with any of these posts, just dont see much evidence of scumhunting in them and think ilario could be just playing to pocket ppl and that i cleared him too easily
ur townread on mac is fine and i agree
ur townread on illario i just discussed
ur townread on nook is fine and i agree
dont really have a read on wisp yet but he hasn't actively pinged me so i suppose that's something
dont have a read on ender yet
think that rondo sounds nearly identical to the king of the hill mafia game we just played so without looking into his meta further i think he's town
but then once he revealed it was a reaction test then i felt less good about the townread because i realized it wasn't him authentically just getting angry about him pushing on me but him putting on a performance to make it "look" like he was angry, which i guess i read as less towny by default
so tbh i actually am rather torn on aro's alignment at the moment - i think his content has broadly been "fine" but dont really perceive him to have done anything particularly town indicative, and i think he's the type of player ill figure out more easily as the game goes on
I would agree the votes were pretty bad considering I hadn't rly played yet but I don't really understand your handling of my slot heresantygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:03 pm Based on the fact that I am scumreading aro and scumleaning Tilg, and both of their votes on Lily were really BAD.
I will say that Lilypetal is TOWN NEVER RESCIND. And you know this is true because I used CAPS
whats ur read on ender?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:17 pmstop pushing on me tbhilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:10 pm i wish there was someone i didnt like in the lobby just so i could guilt free tunnel a slot d1
ill most likely keep my vote on spf or ender today...perhaps aro but nott really because id feel bad if he flips town after the big effort he went with to work with me