potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:36 pm
@Sloonei What do you think of Neon (I think) saying falcon feels OOC?
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?
I think you should read her wolf game before making claims like this.
I will not be doing that. I already stated I'm not even going to be reading this entire game. All I'm saying is I think she sounds noobish rather than wolfy to me.
I'm thinking about it. Particularly interested in Neon agreeing he's not acting normal. Trying to source opinions from other Syndicats to see their opinions
@Seanzie It's reasonable to assume looking at the way PVS keeps referring back to Neon specifically, and the tone in general, that they're not SR her slot.
Or perhaps I'm wrong and PVS is trying to get a read on Neon based off their read on me? But it doesn't feel that way at all, it feels like PVS is TR Neon, or at the very least has her above null
I don't see what you're pushing here. I agree that I get no vibe of a SR on Neon, but I also don't really get a "townread" vibe. Instead Neon said you're acting funny, and someone who doesn't know you well, and likely assumes Neon does, took that to heart.
They look like they're trying to make a meta-based push on you without having the meta to do so, so they're citing the sources of their meta. Nothing big about this.
Well, maybe that's just a vibe approach difference then to how I see the game..if I'm not SRing, I'm TRing by default
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:55 pm
by falcon45ca
@potentialsheltervet What's your read on Neon right now?
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
I'm not great at explaining things but this ain't it.
I expect falcon to be kinda quiet and in the background someone you have to look for and most people will forget about but has posts that are extremely informative if you bother to pay attention
But here he's in the forefront leading and loudly pushing narratives. This isn't what I expect.
I find the few times I've seen town!Falcon fiery D1, it is more inquisitive aggressiveness, whereas here it doesn't really feel inquisitive.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:36 pm
@Sloonei What do you think of Neon (I think) saying falcon feels OOC?
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?
I will not be doing that. I already stated I'm not even going to be reading this entire game. All I'm saying is I think she sounds noobish rather than wolfy to me.
I'm thinking about it. Particularly interested in Neon agreeing he's not acting normal. Trying to source opinions from other Syndicats to see their opinions
@Seanzie It's reasonable to assume looking at the way PVS keeps referring back to Neon specifically, and the tone in general, that they're not SR her slot.
Or perhaps I'm wrong and PVS is trying to get a read on Neon based off their read on me? But it doesn't feel that way at all, it feels like PVS is TR Neon, or at the very least has her above null
I don't see what you're pushing here. I agree that I get no vibe of a SR on Neon, but I also don't really get a "townread" vibe. Instead Neon said you're acting funny, and someone who doesn't know you well, and likely assumes Neon does, took that to heart.
They look like they're trying to make a meta-based push on you without having the meta to do so, so they're citing the sources of their meta. Nothing big about this.
Well, maybe that's just a vibe approach difference then to how I see the game..if I'm not SRing, I'm TRing by default
townreads are for the weak.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:40 pm
@NateTheLesser Why are you voting Zenge?
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm
Game Fast.
14 pages.
Haven't read.
ANYWAYS @Neon you meme voting Dennis?
@falcon45ca/@NateTheLesser please iterate on why Zenge?
His comment on whether Scotty was role fishing seemed like reachy shade for page 1 of day 0 (especially since our animals aren't tied to role/alignment).
But I'm not sure I want to help yeet a SDNer on day one, so I'll see how I feel as I catch up. Dennis also struck me as slightly over-serious during D0.
What would role fishing really accomplish in a role madness game?
Well, I was more interested in the accusation of role fishing than the alleged role fishing itself.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:40 pm
@NateTheLesser Why are you voting Zenge?
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm
Game Fast.
14 pages.
Haven't read.
ANYWAYS @Neon you meme voting Dennis?
@falcon45ca/@NateTheLesser please iterate on why Zenge?
His comment on whether Scotty was role fishing seemed like reachy shade for page 1 of day 0 (especially since our animals aren't tied to role/alignment).
But I'm not sure I want to help yeet a SDNer on day one, so I'll see how I feel as I catch up. Dennis also struck me as slightly over-serious during D0.
What would role fishing really accomplish in a role madness game?
Well, I was more interested in the accusation of role fishing than the alleged role fishing itself.
It wasn’t an accusation Nate, it was a joke.
The joke being that animal roles are irrelevant so fishing for them is equally irrelevant.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:40 pm
@NateTheLesser Why are you voting Zenge?
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm
Game Fast.
14 pages.
Haven't read.
ANYWAYS @Neon you meme voting Dennis?
@falcon45ca/@NateTheLesser please iterate on why Zenge?
His comment on whether Scotty was role fishing seemed like reachy shade for page 1 of day 0 (especially since our animals aren't tied to role/alignment).
But I'm not sure I want to help yeet a SDNer on day one, so I'll see how I feel as I catch up. Dennis also struck me as slightly over-serious during D0.
What would role fishing really accomplish in a role madness game?
Well, I was more interested in the accusation of role fishing than the alleged role fishing itself.
It wasn’t an accusation Nate, it was a joke.
The joke being that animal roles are irrelevant so fishing for them is equally irrelevant.
My animal is very relevant, thank you very much.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:36 pm
@Sloonei What do you think of Neon (I think) saying falcon feels OOC?
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?
Yes, she is a relative noob. This is her fifth (I believe?) game.
I'm more getting at, I would've expected her to be coached not to say something like that. I'm reading her as nooby rather than outright wolfy.
I think you should read her wolf game before making claims like this.
I will not be doing that. I already stated I'm not even going to be reading this entire game. All I'm saying is I think she sounds noobish rather than wolfy to me.
I'm thinking about it. Particularly interested in Neon agreeing he's not acting normal. Trying to source opinions from other Syndicats to see their opinions
@Seanzie It's reasonable to assume looking at the way PVS keeps referring back to Neon specifically, and the tone in general, that they're not SR her slot.
Or perhaps I'm wrong and PVS is trying to get a read on Neon based off their read on me? But it doesn't feel that way at all, it feels like PVS is TR Neon, or at the very least has her above null
"God reads" are kind of a big thing on SDN, so I'm not that surprised by PSV paying extra attention to Neon's read on you if she claims to read you well.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:40 pm
@NateTheLesser Why are you voting Zenge?
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm
Game Fast.
14 pages.
Haven't read.
ANYWAYS @Neon you meme voting Dennis?
@falcon45ca/@NateTheLesser please iterate on why Zenge?
His comment on whether Scotty was role fishing seemed like reachy shade for page 1 of day 0 (especially since our animals aren't tied to role/alignment).
But I'm not sure I want to help yeet a SDNer on day one, so I'll see how I feel as I catch up. Dennis also struck me as slightly over-serious during D0.
What would role fishing really accomplish in a role madness game?
Well, I was more interested in the accusation of role fishing than the alleged role fishing itself.
It wasn’t an accusation Nate, it was a joke.
The joke being that animal roles are irrelevant so fishing for them is equally irrelevant.
:fishslap:
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:14 pm
by NateTheLesser
Oh, it didn't work.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:40 pm
@NateTheLesser Why are you voting Zenge?
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm
Game Fast.
14 pages.
Haven't read.
ANYWAYS @Neon you meme voting Dennis?
@falcon45ca/@NateTheLesser please iterate on why Zenge?
His comment on whether Scotty was role fishing seemed like reachy shade for page 1 of day 0 (especially since our animals aren't tied to role/alignment).
But I'm not sure I want to help yeet a SDNer on day one, so I'll see how I feel as I catch up. Dennis also struck me as slightly over-serious during D0.
What would role fishing really accomplish in a role madness game?
Well, I was more interested in the accusation of role fishing than the alleged role fishing itself.
It wasn’t an accusation Nate, it was a joke.
The joke being that animal roles are irrelevant so fishing for them is equally irrelevant.
There.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:36 pm
@Sloonei What do you think of Neon (I think) saying falcon feels OOC?
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?
I'm thinking about it. Particularly interested in Neon agreeing he's not acting normal. Trying to source opinions from other Syndicats to see their opinions
@Seanzie It's reasonable to assume looking at the way PVS keeps referring back to Neon specifically, and the tone in general, that they're not SR her slot.
Or perhaps I'm wrong and PVS is trying to get a read on Neon based off their read on me? But it doesn't feel that way at all, it feels like PVS is TR Neon, or at the very least has her above null
I don't see what you're pushing here. I agree that I get no vibe of a SR on Neon, but I also don't really get a "townread" vibe. Instead Neon said you're acting funny, and someone who doesn't know you well, and likely assumes Neon does, took that to heart.
They look like they're trying to make a meta-based push on you without having the meta to do so, so they're citing the sources of their meta. Nothing big about this.
I think this is another point in the Falcon is very likely a wolf column.
This push on PSV is illogical in its foundation. Seanzie spelled it out perfectly.
The bad news is though... we cannot elim Falcon.
Not with that attitude
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:36 pm
@Sloonei What do you think of Neon (I think) saying falcon feels OOC?
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:24 pm
Anyway, I find the split on whether falcon is playing out of character or not to be an interesting one. sloonei says no, neon says yes. Other Syndicats, what's your opinion?
I'm thinking about it. Particularly interested in Neon agreeing he's not acting normal. Trying to source opinions from other Syndicats to see their opinions
@Seanzie It's reasonable to assume looking at the way PVS keeps referring back to Neon specifically, and the tone in general, that they're not SR her slot.
Or perhaps I'm wrong and PVS is trying to get a read on Neon based off their read on me? But it doesn't feel that way at all, it feels like PVS is TR Neon, or at the very least has her above null
I don't see what you're pushing here. I agree that I get no vibe of a SR on Neon, but I also don't really get a "townread" vibe. Instead Neon said you're acting funny, and someone who doesn't know you well, and likely assumes Neon does, took that to heart.
They look like they're trying to make a meta-based push on you without having the meta to do so, so they're citing the sources of their meta. Nothing big about this.
I think this is another point in the Falcon is very likely a wolf column.
This push on PSV is illogical in its foundation. Seanzie spelled it out perfectly.
The bad news is though... we cannot elim Falcon.
Not with that attitude
I’m not sure I understand your question.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
@Seanzie It's reasonable to assume looking at the way PVS keeps referring back to Neon specifically, and the tone in general, that they're not SR her slot.
Or perhaps I'm wrong and PVS is trying to get a read on Neon based off their read on me? But it doesn't feel that way at all, it feels like PVS is TR Neon, or at the very least has her above null
I don't see what you're pushing here. I agree that I get no vibe of a SR on Neon, but I also don't really get a "townread" vibe. Instead Neon said you're acting funny, and someone who doesn't know you well, and likely assumes Neon does, took that to heart.
They look like they're trying to make a meta-based push on you without having the meta to do so, so they're citing the sources of their meta. Nothing big about this.
I think this is another point in the Falcon is very likely a wolf column.
This push on PSV is illogical in its foundation. Seanzie spelled it out perfectly.
The bad news is though... we cannot elim Falcon.
Not with that attitude
I’m not sure I understand your question.
I've been sussing Falcon, and then I tell you that we cannot elim him.
You don't find that weird? You don't want to know why? You just drop it?
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
I'm not great at explaining things but this ain't it.
I expect falcon to be kinda quiet and in the background someone you have to look for and most people will forget about but has posts that are extremely informative if you bother to pay attention
But here he's in the forefront leading and loudly pushing narratives. This isn't what I expect.
I find the few times I've seen town!Falcon fiery D1, it is more inquisitive aggressiveness, whereas here it doesn't really feel inquisitive.
Meta Maf has me out swingin' hoss.
I sat back and we got creamed. Nuh uh, not again
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
I don't see what you're pushing here. I agree that I get no vibe of a SR on Neon, but I also don't really get a "townread" vibe. Instead Neon said you're acting funny, and someone who doesn't know you well, and likely assumes Neon does, took that to heart.
They look like they're trying to make a meta-based push on you without having the meta to do so, so they're citing the sources of their meta. Nothing big about this.
I think this is another point in the Falcon is very likely a wolf column.
This push on PSV is illogical in its foundation. Seanzie spelled it out perfectly.
The bad news is though... we cannot elim Falcon.
Not with that attitude
I’m not sure I understand your question.
I've been sussing Falcon, and then I tell you that we cannot elim him.
You don't find that weird? You don't want to know why? You just drop it?
I was hoping you’d either reconsider or elaborate on why you thought that. You hadn’t yet. I wasn’t going to badger you about it not that long after.
I asked Sloonei a serious question several hours ago that I haven’t gotten an answer from despite them having posted. I haven’t badgered them about an answer yet. That doesn’t mean I’ve forgotten or don’t intend to follow up at some point.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
I'm not great at explaining things but this ain't it.
I expect falcon to be kinda quiet and in the background someone you have to look for and most people will forget about but has posts that are extremely informative if you bother to pay attention
But here he's in the forefront leading and loudly pushing narratives. This isn't what I expect.
I find the few times I've seen town!Falcon fiery D1, it is more inquisitive aggressiveness, whereas here it doesn't really feel inquisitive.
Meta Maf has me out swingin' hoss.
I sat back and we got creamed. Nuh uh, not again
I found it quite interesting that both you and Dennis stated townreads of me today after Meta.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:54 pm
by Sloonei
Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:44 pm
I asked Sloonei a serious question several hours ago that I haven’t gotten an answer from despite them having posted. I haven’t badgered them about an answer yet. That doesn’t mean I’ve forgotten or don’t intend to follow up at some point.
I answered you here, but I do not expect you to be satisfied with my response.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:44 pm
I asked Sloonei a serious question several hours ago that I haven’t gotten an answer from despite them having posted. I haven’t badgered them about an answer yet. That doesn’t mean I’ve forgotten or don’t intend to follow up at some point.
I answered you here, but I do not expect you to be satisfied with my response.
You’re right. I’m extremely dissatisfied.
I asked you for one thing. One simple thing. Give me your thoughts on the content itself.
Instead you gave another hand wavy answer that simply acknowledges the existence of the content and talk about how it was created on D1.
I wanted you to talk to me about the argument I’m making against Falcon. The specific point about what Falcon said, my rebuttal, and what you agree with or disagree with in that exchange, with specifics.
I still expect an answer here.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:01 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:54 pm
Agree with Dennis on the Miranda wagon. In particular I think Scotty joining it looks incredibly weird
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:44 pm
I asked Sloonei a serious question several hours ago that I haven’t gotten an answer from despite them having posted. I haven’t badgered them about an answer yet. That doesn’t mean I’ve forgotten or don’t intend to follow up at some point.
I answered you here, but I do not expect you to be satisfied with my response.
You’re right. I’m extremely dissatisfied.
I asked you for one thing. One simple thing. Give me your thoughts on the content itself.
Instead you gave another hand wavy answer that simply acknowledges the existence of the content and talk about how it was created on D1.
I wanted you to talk to me about the argument I’m making against Falcon. The specific point about what Falcon said, my rebuttal, and what you agree with or disagree with in that exchange, with specifics.
I still expect an answer here.
Hey AM, you forgot to take off your Zenge suit
Just thought you should know
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
I am not I was asking if I said I was, but forgot to put you on the list
Why aren't you townreading me?
I am yet to be compelled
I've been quite compelling.
Source
Folklore results do not need sources.
Yes they do
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:08 pm
by Creature
Meh Zenge strikes me as stubborn town.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:10 pm
by Creature
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:55 pm
@potentialsheltervet What's your read on Neon right now?
I think Neon is fine for now, but only saw the last pages.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:10 pm
by mightyrunner7
Hello everyone, finally caught up from Day 1 opening, so I'll be making a series of posts to give my thoughts/impressions
The biggest issue so far seems to be the conflict between Falcon/Zenge/Sloonie/Seanzie
Here are my reads of it:
Falcon - Scum lean
Zenge - Village lean
Sloonie - Village lean
Seanzie - Confused scum lean. Falcon was sus, but we cannot eliminate Falcon, so you vote for Zenge? Is your opinion toward Falcon based in past history (Falcon is a strong player, we should keep him around) or something else?
Generally, I find Zenge to have had the more convincing argument than Falcon (although this may admittedly be attributed to SDN bias), while Sloonie's commentary felt villagey to me
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:11 pm
by mightyrunner7
PSA - I found that this website deletes your posts if you refresh the page, so I will be typing long comments in my notes app before transferring over for posting
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:14 pm
by Animal Midwife
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:10 pm
Hello everyone, finally caught up from Day 1 opening, so I'll be making a series of posts to give my thoughts/impressions
The biggest issue so far seems to be the conflict between Falcon/Zenge/Sloonie/Seanzie
Here are my reads of it:
Falcon - Scum lean
Zenge - Village lean
Sloonie - Village lean
Seanzie - Confused scum lean. Falcon was sus, but we cannot eliminate Falcon, so you vote for Zenge? Is your opinion toward Falcon based in past history (Falcon is a strong player, we should keep him around) or something else?
Generally, I find Zenge to have had the more convincing argument than Falcon (although this may admittedly be attributed to SDN bias), while Sloonie's commentary felt villagey to me
Could you remind me why Zenge is the only SDNer you're reading when you've only played one game with him where you were both village?
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:47 pm
@pyxxy you mentioned I was acting weird. Does that make me suspicious or are you just pointing at things and harrumphing?
I'm suspicious that you've got something going on. There is something tbd about your posting that is related to your role somehow. I can feel it from how your big animal+alignment posts.
Doesn't mean your scummy. Doesn't mean we can't win together if you're 3p.
i don't understand why you go 3p over scum when you say you have suspicion
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:34 am
@Zenge did you have an opinion about Miranda specifically, or Moreno the speed of the votes piling on her?
This issue I have with the Miranda wagon is that Miranda is by far the newest player on SDN in this game. Technically sure players like Dr.Wilgy have played fewer games on SDN but they have a lot more experience with forum mafia in general. Miranda on the other hand, I could count the number of games she’s played on one hand probably, maybe an extra finger? Thats games she’s played EVER.
I think it’s reasonable to assume there’s a mix of Syndicate and SDN players in the wolf pack. I think it’s reasonable to assume that one of the first conversations that would have taken place would be to formulate a list of players that would be the easiest to misyeet. From the SDN side, Miranda would have been the TOP of that list.
So when I see the first real cycle open, and within a half hour of a 48 hour cycle, there are already 3 votes on the player who I suspect would have been talked about in wolf chat as the best place to deliver a misyeet, it raises my suspicions and feels rather concerning.
I don’t have a read on Miranda. I honestly don’t believe anyone in this game could have a legitimate read on Miranda at this juncture.
Given that, I find it unlikely that by coincidence within the first half hour of a 48 hour cycle, that three villagers independently claim to have a wolf read on someone who just so happens to be the one player I think would be the most likely choice for wolves to try and misyeet.
The issue is that Miranda isn't the only new player. mighty is here too. He has even fewer games. This also paints miranda as village despite claiming to not have a read on her. If you're worried she's a misyeet, who are you wolf reading on her?
Miranda and I are both in the same noob class. I think I actually have 1 more game than her (she did 3 houses while I did Hannibal and champs practice). But I agree with AM's general point that we are both fair targets for scum to consider on D1, and I agree with Zenges later point that I have more history successfully fighting off misyeets than Miranda
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
I don't see what you're pushing here. I agree that I get no vibe of a SR on Neon, but I also don't really get a "townread" vibe. Instead Neon said you're acting funny, and someone who doesn't know you well, and likely assumes Neon does, took that to heart.
They look like they're trying to make a meta-based push on you without having the meta to do so, so they're citing the sources of their meta. Nothing big about this.
I think this is another point in the Falcon is very likely a wolf column.
This push on PSV is illogical in its foundation. Seanzie spelled it out perfectly.
The bad news is though... we cannot elim Falcon.
Not with that attitude
I’m not sure I understand your question.
I've been sussing Falcon, and then I tell you that we cannot elim him.
You don't find that weird? You don't want to know why? You just drop it?
why'd you vote zenge?
"not with that attitude" is common sdn sass
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:10 pm
Hello everyone, finally caught up from Day 1 opening, so I'll be making a series of posts to give my thoughts/impressions
The biggest issue so far seems to be the conflict between Falcon/Zenge/Sloonie/Seanzie
Here are my reads of it:
Falcon - Scum lean
Zenge - Village lean
Sloonie - Village lean
Seanzie - Confused scum lean. Falcon was sus, but we cannot eliminate Falcon, so you vote for Zenge? Is your opinion toward Falcon based in past history (Falcon is a strong player, we should keep him around) or something else?
Generally, I find Zenge to have had the more convincing argument than Falcon (although this may admittedly be attributed to SDN bias), while Sloonie's commentary felt villagey to me
Could you remind me why Zenge is the only SDNer you're reading when you've only played one game with him where you were both village?
Zenge was the only SDNer who meaningfully contributed to this particular issue that I was analyzing, I'm still working on my catch-up
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:22 pm
by Seanzie
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:10 pm
Hello everyone, finally caught up from Day 1 opening, so I'll be making a series of posts to give my thoughts/impressions
The biggest issue so far seems to be the conflict between Falcon/Zenge/Sloonie/Seanzie
Here are my reads of it:
Falcon - Scum lean
Zenge - Village lean
Sloonie - Village lean
Seanzie - Confused scum lean. Falcon was sus, but we cannot eliminate Falcon, so you vote for Zenge? Is your opinion toward Falcon based in past history (Falcon is a strong player, we should keep him around) or something else?
Generally, I find Zenge to have had the more convincing argument than Falcon (although this may admittedly be attributed to SDN bias), while Sloonie's commentary felt villagey to me
See, this is what a townie looks like when I sus Falcon but take them off the table.
I'll answer your question re:this, but not until I hear from Zenge.
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:10 pm
Hello everyone, finally caught up from Day 1 opening, so I'll be making a series of posts to give my thoughts/impressions
The biggest issue so far seems to be the conflict between Falcon/Zenge/Sloonie/Seanzie
Here are my reads of it:
Falcon - Scum lean
Zenge - Village lean
Sloonie - Village lean
Seanzie - Confused scum lean. Falcon was sus, but we cannot eliminate Falcon, so you vote for Zenge? Is your opinion toward Falcon based in past history (Falcon is a strong player, we should keep him around) or something else?
Generally, I find Zenge to have had the more convincing argument than Falcon (although this may admittedly be attributed to SDN bias), while Sloonie's commentary felt villagey to me
Could you remind me why Zenge is the only SDNer you're reading when you've only played one game with him where you were both village?
Zenge was the only SDNer who meaningfully contributed to this particular issue that I was analyzing, I'm still working on my catch-up
You didn't think anything I said was meaningful?
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:10 pm
Hello everyone, finally caught up from Day 1 opening, so I'll be making a series of posts to give my thoughts/impressions
The biggest issue so far seems to be the conflict between Falcon/Zenge/Sloonie/Seanzie
Here are my reads of it:
Falcon - Scum lean
Zenge - Village lean
Sloonie - Village lean
Seanzie - Confused scum lean. Falcon was sus, but we cannot eliminate Falcon, so you vote for Zenge? Is your opinion toward Falcon based in past history (Falcon is a strong player, we should keep him around) or something else?
Generally, I find Zenge to have had the more convincing argument than Falcon (although this may admittedly be attributed to SDN bias), while Sloonie's commentary felt villagey to me
See, this is what a townie looks like when I sus Falcon but take them off the table.
I'll answer your question re:this, but not until I hear from Zenge.
I answered you in 922? Unless you asked something else I didn’t see?
Re: [DAY 1] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game
I asked you for one thing. One simple thing. Give me your thoughts on the content itself.
Instead you gave another hand wavy answer that simply acknowledges the existence of the content and talk about how it was created on D1.
I wanted you to talk to me about the argument I’m making against Falcon. The specific point about what Falcon said, my rebuttal, and what you agree with or disagree with in that exchange, with specifics.
I still expect an answer here.
I think Falcon said a provocative thing about you and you were provoked. I think he made a mountain out of a molehill first, and you responded by making your out mountain out of your own molehill. Falcon's initial gripe, whether or not we believe it, was that you were not proactive enough in addressing your concerns about the early Miranda votes. Was it fair as an accusation at face value? Not really. But was it an acceptable play for early Day 1 of a crossover mafia game on Mafiathesyndicate.com? Absolutely.
You responded critically and defensively, because it was a bit of a bogus accusation. That is fair. But, in your response, I felt you took some liberties with his words, or at least presented a rather one-sided view of his position (It is not hard to see how falcon could interpret your initial concern as being simply the speed with which the votes occurred). This is reminiscent of how you have responded to me today. But, again, that is fine, because it is Day 1 of a mafia game, and we need to twist some words to get people talking.
Was I swayed by any of the arguments either of you made against one another? No. I was not. If I am to give a read, it's that both of you are town. Falcon, for playing the role of provocateur. You, because your defensive reaction turned into what looks to be a very firmly-held belief that you are onto something. But neither of those are strong reads, which is why I will again stress that I'm more interested in seeing how you respond to other things.
I do not believe there is anything meaningful to be gained by continuing this dialogue.
