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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 6:34 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Please stop trying to kill an obv town.

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 6:42 pm
by falcon45ca
Zenon wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 6:34 pm Please stop trying to kill an obv town.
Oh my lanta, why would you even care when I'm getting buried?

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 6:46 pm
by falcon45ca
Why does Town Neon plead w/ Maf falcon to not kill obv town?

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 6:56 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Cause I'm not convinced you're mafia. I don't really scum hunt.

I am convinced Tutuu is obv town though

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 6:56 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Vote: Prince

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 6:58 pm
by falcon45ca
@RondoDimBuckle Why tutuu?

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:01 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
Eh

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:02 pm
by falcon45ca
[VOTE: alison] aubergine

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:05 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Vote: Alison

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:10 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
[VOTE: vc manipulate ] aubergine

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:13 pm
by Camilla
The fact that the competing wagon to the LL is a 3-man wagon on the player who was one of the primary pushers behind Porscha and who made her shutdown in pressure is a huge kekw moment.

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:22 pm
by Camilla
Also Idt Zenon's defense of Mac in Holes is equivalent to her defense of Porscha in this game.

"❤️ uwu.

But seriously I don't think I've ever seen wolf Mac play like this. He was disjointed in his reads in Mafia Misplay but he was aggressive and loud and trying to get Sabi deep.

Here he feels lost confused and disjointed. He feels low WiM but not wolfy.

I want to help Mac get his WiM back because I was kind of following along with his wagon structure posts and I know how stronk he can be and I think misexeing low WiM Mac d2 is game losing."

Her defense of Mac there felt extremely wishy-washy like she didn't want to commit to the defense but still say that he's just null rather than wolfy, which is a huge partner tell FMPoV as wolves trying to defend each other tend to soft-defense their partners while in this game she was basically screaming that Porscha was town which showed more conviction.

I still think that she's more likely than not an incorrect villager being that it feels like she actually believes in her reads this game.

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:27 pm
by Camilla
Scotty wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 4:42 pm
Roxy wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 4:22 pm
Scotty wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 3:46 pm
Roxy wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:26 pm
tutuu wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:10 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

i dont feel it in my gut that he will flip wolf but i suppose i'll vote with alison and zenon
why would you vote someone you do not feel is wolf?
Didn’t you vote someone you didn’t feel was wolf?
When?
Oh I just backchecked- my bad, you didn’t vote for Camilla, but were willing to, even though you didn’t think she was wolf.

In any case, reading through your iso- unless my calculations were correct- you voted for Porscha as the tying vote and tried to get a bunch of people to vote on wagons which is a real +town move. The ONLY reason you’d be bad in this capacity is if your partner pyxxy is the role blocker, which others have also deduced.

You should not be voted today.
If Pyxxy is the RB'er then I'd nuke Wilgy/Roxy.

Thing is I kinda don't think this theory is likely since Porscha tried to shift the wagon onto him and he was fairly reluctant in pushing Porscha where if he were the RB'er then he'd have bussing privileges as having your roleblocker die d1 in a setup with a cop and a doctor is pretty much GG.

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:33 pm
by Scotty
Camilla wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 10:27 pm
Scotty wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 4:42 pm
Roxy wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 4:22 pm
Scotty wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 3:46 pm
Roxy wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:26 pm
tutuu wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:10 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

i dont feel it in my gut that he will flip wolf but i suppose i'll vote with alison and zenon
why would you vote someone you do not feel is wolf?
Didn’t you vote someone you didn’t feel was wolf?
When?
Oh I just backchecked- my bad, you didn’t vote for Camilla, but were willing to, even though you didn’t think she was wolf.

In any case, reading through your iso- unless my calculations were correct- you voted for Porscha as the tying vote and tried to get a bunch of people to vote on wagons which is a real +town move. The ONLY reason you’d be bad in this capacity is if your partner pyxxy is the role blocker, which others have also deduced.

You should not be voted today.
If Pyxxy is the RB'er then I'd nuke Wilgy/Roxy.

Thing is I kinda don't think this theory is likely since Porscha tried to shift the wagon onto him and he was fairly reluctant in pushing Porscha where if he were the RB'er then he'd have bussing privileges as having your roleblocker die d1 in a setup with a cop and a doctor is pretty much GG.
I’m not so sure about this theory either

However, I didn’t get the impression that Porscha was looking to sway the thread towards pyxxy

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:39 pm
by falcon45ca
[VOTE: neon] aubergine

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:39 pm
by DrWilgy
Camilla wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:03 am
DrWilgy wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 9:50 am
Scotty wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:55 am
DrWilgy wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 10:58 pm Probably one in Scotty, Zenon, Tutuu, Pyxxy.
Probably one in Rondo, Falcon.
Probably just Rondo because I don't see wolf Falcon.

Did Porscha have any resistance towards voting Pyxxy?

Ho well. Y'all sort it for me...

Good night.
Your VA/difference checks here without context make it look like you looked up some stuff, but you’re asking about Porscha specifically talking about pyxxy. Why?
Because I read this post below as Porscha trying to get out of voting Pyxxy by suggesting more lhf options. Figured if someone shared their thoughts regarding this, someone else would solve it for me.
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 10:30 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 9:48 pm
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 9:46 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 7:44 pm I have not reviewed the linked game in detail but if it is true that Porscha is no longer volume polarized then it she is actually kind of scummy... the noise to signal ratio is really bad
it isn't my fault that half the people who signed up aren't playing and the other half are actually roleplaying the title of the game.
Who do you think is mafia?
I dont care if pyxxy dies the most but until wilgy / camilla / falcon make any real posts it's hard to sort the people who are posting
That's all you get out of me for now. You all really don't know how to read the essay prompts. Well, except Pyxxy. Good job Pyxxy...

Or maybe we are apathetic to the word apathy? Perhaps that's it?
I thought that it kind of doesn't sound W/W-y?

It's a bit of a stretch but when wolves push each other they generally try to give a reasoning to make it look more unaligned while here it's just Porscha going "well, Pyxxy isn't doing nothing so let's push him."
Aye, but they went out of their way to offer alternatives... WHILE forgetting someone...

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:42 pm
by DrWilgy
The Alison wagon seems gross, but meh.

Falcon wagon just seems bad. I don't think this is wolf Falcon.
Since scooby doo, the Falcon read has changed somewhat. W Falcon hides and I don't think they are doing that so far.

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Whatever, I trust you goons to do what's needed. I shouldn't be bothered.

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:44 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
bad

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:51 pm
by tutuu
i dont know who to vote. i really dont feel like its falcon

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:52 pm
by tutuu
[VOTE: rondo] aubergine

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:53 pm
by tutuu
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine ill just sheep someone at eod

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:56 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Camilla wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 10:22 pm Also Idt Zenon's defense of Mac in Holes is equivalent to her defense of Porscha in this game.

"❤️ uwu.

But seriously I don't think I've ever seen wolf Mac play like this. He was disjointed in his reads in Mafia Misplay but he was aggressive and loud and trying to get Sabi deep.

Here he feels lost confused and disjointed. He feels low WiM but not wolfy.

I want to help Mac get his WiM back because I was kind of following along with his wagon structure posts and I know how stronk he can be and I think misexeing low WiM Mac d2 is game losing."

Her defense of Mac there felt extremely wishy-washy like she didn't want to commit to the defense but still say that he's just null rather than wolfy, which is a huge partner tell FMPoV as wolves trying to defend each other tend to soft-defense their partners while in this game she was basically screaming that Porscha was town which showed more conviction.

I still think that she's more likely than not an incorrect villager being that it feels like she actually believes in her reads this game.
This is actually an extremely good read of my play that game but I already know your a good player lol

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:59 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
I volunteer as tribute

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:00 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Unvote

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:01 pm
by Camilla
tutuu wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 10:51 pm i dont know who to vote. i really dont feel like its falcon

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine
I think rather than wolfhunting the ideal way to approach this game is to townhunt and then kill the people who are the least towny, tbh.

Most of my PoE are kind of just phoning the game in so I'm not really getting much wolfpings from anyone.

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:06 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Hey that's my strategy

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:24 pm
by tutuu
Camilla wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:01 pm
tutuu wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 10:51 pm i dont know who to vote. i really dont feel like its falcon

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine
I think rather than wolfhunting the ideal way to approach this game is to townhunt and then kill the people who are the least towny, tbh.

Most of my PoE are kind of just phoning the game in so I'm not really getting much wolfpings from anyone.
im finding reasons to townread everyone so its hard. i need to decide which reasons i have to townread someone are the least good. but that might not even be a good strategy. sometimes you find correct reads for dumb reasons. wolves try to play logical and be townread in a logical way. but then if you purposefully go illogical / abstract in ur decision making of which towrneads to keep and to discard - that can also be dangerous / double edged sword. u can overthink and outplay urself

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:32 pm
by tutuu
if prince j is mafia he ditched the game despite randing mafia with the friend that invited him here as she was getting chopped d1. they'd have discord server where she could ping him. odd

if alison is mafia she started off townreading her teammate, then sheeped me and changed her read and voteparked her and killed her. she wasn't under pressure herself, noone scumread her. odd

if camilla is mafia she sat by d1 and watched her teammate die. yes she was sick but. she came in guns blazing d2, solved a fuck ton, started pushing for a player that was on the wolf wagon, most likely town if camilla is mafia (roxy). odd

if wilgy is mafia he sheeped on getting his teammate killed and then went back to being afk, not getting any cred. odd

if falcon is mafia he's emulating his town meta of low posting despite knowing how that gets him chopped every game. last wolf game he showed a preference to hyper post. although he did get vigged still so it didn't save him. i dunno. odd

if pyxxy is mafia ... i dunno. i dont think it would be odd as i find pyxxy's wolf range big, but a lot of my townreads that i trust the accuracy of are townreading pyxxy

if rondo is mafia -

im tired, i couldnt finish pyxxy, let alone other players. dont even wanna continue. ill just post it

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:40 pm
by tutuu
alison is the one i trust the most, the only one that i am confident i can get a good read on due to ton of experience with her + her vote on the wolf. plus i trust her read accuracy generally. so ill probably give her my vote. but not now i dont wanna artificially help make a wagon i dont believe in myself. i dont think it ends up being good although i know that's not a take that would be agreed upon generally

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:50 pm
by Camilla
tutuu wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:32 pm if prince j is mafia he ditched the game despite randing mafia with the friend that invited him here as she was getting chopped d1. they'd have discord server where she could ping him. odd

if alison is mafia she started off townreading her teammate, then sheeped me and changed her read and voteparked her and killed her. she wasn't under pressure herself, noone scumread her. odd

if camilla is mafia she sat by d1 and watched her teammate die. yes she was sick but. she came in guns blazing d2, solved a fuck ton, started pushing for a player that was on the wolf wagon, most likely town if camilla is mafia (roxy). odd

if wilgy is mafia he sheeped on getting his teammate killed and then went back to being afk, not getting any cred. odd

if falcon is mafia he's emulating his town meta of low posting despite knowing how that gets him chopped every game. last wolf game he showed a preference to hyper post. although he did get vigged still so it didn't save him. i dunno. odd

if pyxxy is mafia ... i dunno. i dont think it would be odd as i find pyxxy's wolf range big, but a lot of my townreads that i trust the accuracy of are townreading pyxxy

if rondo is mafia -

im tired, i couldnt finish pyxxy, let alone other players. dont even wanna continue. ill just post it
I think the worse reasons are with J and Falcon here, tbh.

Falcon finished a wolfgame recently where he kind of did roughly the same thing where he only had one wolfread as in PSV and then OMGUS'd when he got pushed. Thing is I'm less certain of him as I feel like tonally he's less dry and I see a less rigidity in his read on you than I saw when it came to his read on PSV where he seems to be taking more of what's happening in the thread into account.

I don't think J's absence was done out of lack of interest as he tends to disappear for extended periods of time due to his schedule. I kind of wish he'd be in the thread more often but yeah.

I really doubt Alison hardbusses a partner early like this, especially after initially townreading her when Porscha wasn't getting any heat.

Wilgy is an eh, but the way he's been treating this game feels kind of like how Dennis did it in summer where he felt lazy-ish but honest.

Rondo is... I just feel like today he's been too in-your-face to be a wolf, tbh.

Pyxxy could be, but eh.

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:56 pm
by tutuu
Fine

[VOTE: prince j] aubergine

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:57 pm
by Scotty
Maybe if we all say Prince J three times while holding a candle and looking into a bathroom mirror in the dark, he’ll come out to play

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:58 pm
by tutuu
@Camilla i like u

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:59 pm
by Camilla
Scotty wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:57 pm Maybe if we all say Prince J three times while holding a candle and looking into a bathroom mirror in the dark, he’ll come out to play
Prince J

Prince J

Prince J

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:04 am
by tutuu
The special ability to yell at people in all caps LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ALISON

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:04 am
by tutuu
Camilla wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:59 pm
Scotty wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:57 pm Maybe if we all say Prince J three times while holding a candle and looking into a bathroom mirror in the dark, he’ll come out to play
Prince J

Prince J

Prince J
Unleash your secret killer move !

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:07 am
by Camilla
@~Prince J~ WAKE THE HELL UP AND COME POST YOU LITTLE FISH NUGGET OR ELSE I'LL DUNK ON YOU SO HARD THAT EVEN YOUR GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN WON'T BE ABLE TO PLAY BASKETBALL FROM THE PTSD I'LL GIVE YOU!

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:08 am
by tutuu
@~Prince J~ get ur ass back in here you
Spoiler: show
LITTLE
Spoiler: show
BITCH

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:08 am
by tutuu
Camilla wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 12:07 am @~Prince J~ WAKE THE HELL UP AND COME POST YOU LITTLE FISH NUGGET OR ELSE I'LL DUNK ON YOU SO HARD THAT EVEN YOUR GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN WON'T BE ABLE TO PLAY BASKETBALL FROM THE PTSD I'LL GIVE YOU!
So cute 🥰

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:13 am
by tutuu
Image

me and camilla (she isnt that enthusiastic about it but she's tolerating me)

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:18 am
by Camilla
tutuu wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 12:13 am Image

me and camilla (she isnt that enthusiastic about it but she's tolerating me)
I'm frankly just tired.

My dog had diarrhea and I had to clean up my entire house because the idiot decided that it'd be fun to splash in his own shit and then run around the house during an online meeting I had as I'm currently working on a team project.

I should be in bed rn, tbh.

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:20 am
by tutuu
Camilla wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 12:18 am I'm frankly just tired.

My dog had diarrhea and I had to clean up my entire house because the idiot decided that it'd be fun to splash in his own shit and then run around the house during an online meeting I had as I'm currently working on a team project.

I should be in bed rn, tbh.
awwww huggggg

Image

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:26 am
by Alison
pyxxy wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:37 pm .......D1.......poll.......

Image

.......atm.......my solve.......is.....................scotty+tutuu.......

..............I.......await.....................Scotty
What makes you think it's Scotty?

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:32 am
by Alison
I'm tired and sick and distracted for IRL reasons so I won't post by post react but my general sentiment upon reading is that people are putting on tinfoil hats way too quickly after a d1 pelt

Porscha was caught early and went down without a fight. She complained about afks. The mafia team is prolly not in control and likely have at least one if not two passive players in it.

Everyone has different views on who to trust but thats fine. Just look at the people with no compelling reasons to trust them and play a straight poe game. Wagoning people like tutuu is trolling hard

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:34 am
by Alison
Falcon and rondo have no reason to be trusted

Prince J has the "porscha would have pinged him to play in wolf chat" but maybe he was genuinely busy IRL and couldnt regardless

Just kill in one of these ig

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:35 am
by Alison
I started off suspecting zenon but dont think shes the right kill d2, even if shes mafia shes townsiding right now and has a partner to be caught

roxy is bleeding town even if her reads/playstyle are questionable

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:36 am
by Alison
It could be wilgy. Maybe he just didnt take credit for the bus because he was genuinely afk and didnt feel like playing

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:36 am
by Alison
I still think pyxxy is townie

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:43 am
by tutuu
alright cool

falcon/rondo/prince J > wilgy it is

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:44 am
by tutuu
[VOTE: falcon] aubergine