Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:09 pm
Day, fay. Same thing.
I leaned into the "Epi doesn't bus" thing last game and it burned me hard.
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:15 pm
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:20 pm
[VOTE:
vote: epi ] aubergine
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:25 pm
Oh, right, this argument, I remember.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:26 amAm I supposed to just agree with you that falcon is mafia?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:22 amIt's third-rate play, I agree, but I am just not understanding why it's alignment-indicative toward town.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:07 amWhat falcon is doing is a dead-end street. Nobody buys "I'm literally towning my ass off."Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:04 amOk, so you're saying that acting reactively isn't something mafia-falcon would do, because he's streetwise enough... but town-falcon would act that way? Or that town-falcon doesn't care as much about defending themselves?Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:21 pmNo, I mean the former. Your initial assumption was correct.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:19 pm...so by "mafia-oriented", I thought you meant "wolf team oriented", but you meant "game-oriented"?Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:14 pm
He's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.
I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.
Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.
What mafia says that shit?
Shit, you've got sig leading the charge there. Probably the first time he's been ON a Day 3 lynch instead of being one.
I do not trust Master Radishes.
Everybody else is fine except Wilgy. Just don't know much there.
Are you comfortable with this lynch?
And I'll be clear on this: I'm not voting to save falcon. If he goes, he goes.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:35 pm
Hmm. Idk. I somewhat agreed with epi there at the time so it's not necessarily condemning from my point of view
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:06 pm
Cape
"I can kind of see the push on falcon."
I do not see that Falcon ever followed up on it though.
Here is the turn, where Cape explicitly calls Falcon mafia and does so with enough gumption to call me his teammate.
So I even said:
I would call Cape a highly compatible teammate with Falcon. Could even be a Landlord.
While I'm mainly looking for Falcon interactions, this caught my eye.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:20 pmSo Princess Abigail is town yeah?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:11 am I realize I am doing the same thing I'm accusing you of in my emotional response and I shouldnot do that
I do think the pelt is mine though
I think I'm wrong on someone in my town core who Caitlin was right about otherwise I think I'd be dead N1 over her
It could be falcon... but I don't want to think it is
This is horrifically vague.
"I can kind of see the push on falcon."
I don't understand why you can't have an opinion on someone from a different camp. This is a defense of Falcon by way of suspecting (and voting) Wilgy.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:11 pmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 pmEh. There was no townspewing from you from the N0 thread.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:01 pm
There shouldn't be 6 votes on me right now
I'm literally towning my ass off, it's just misunderstood
It's odd that in your posts here so far, you've brought nothing from the other thread nor do I see an explicit interest in the one you weren't in.
You're normally good about showing your within your townrange when you are town, where is that m8?I think both of these pushes on falcon kinda look terrible, esp since wilgy and falcon haven't seen most of one another's messages since they were in different threads most of the game all togetherDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:36 pmI'm good at reading Falcon, but I don't think this is townspewed Falc.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town
Who from y'alls thread who claimed to tr falcon that died?
As far as I can tell, this is the only direct interaction Cape had with Falcon. It's not a bad question.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:30 amIf you are having a great game, why are you getting pushed? are most people pushing for you in bad faith?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:29 pmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 pmEh. There was no townspewing from you from the N0 thread.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:01 pm
There shouldn't be 6 votes on me right now
I'm literally towning my ass off, it's just misunderstood
It's odd that in your posts here so far, you've brought nothing from the other thread nor do I see an explicit interest in the one you weren't in.
You're normally good about showing your within your townrange when you are town, where is that m8?
I can't force you to see things from my point of view, I feel I'm obv town
I'm the towniest town who's ever towned!
Maybe I'm having a bad game? But!
Has anyone ever considered that maybe I'm having a great game?
I do not see that Falcon ever followed up on it though.
I want to cross-reference this post with the earlier posts. There is a shaky defense of falcon in those.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:32 amAll this you/falcon talk is kinda screaming w/w to meEpignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:14 pmHe's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.
I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.
Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.
Here is the turn, where Cape explicitly calls Falcon mafia and does so with enough gumption to call me his teammate.
So I even said:
By that point, falcon had one foot out the door, and I see no evidence that Cape was really trying to figure falcon out. Cape went from defending Falcon to calling him mafia without ever even voting there.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:28 pmDo you know falcon is mafia?Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:32 amAll this you/falcon talk is kinda screaming w/w to meEpignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:14 pmHe's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.
I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.
Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.
I would call Cape a highly compatible teammate with Falcon. Could even be a Landlord.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:14 pm
DarlingMonroe
"I didn't try to find out."DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:30 pm I am not exactly sure why falcon has the votes he does, but I wanna keep playing and helping town/civilians
DarlingMonroe is a highly compatible teammate with Falcon.DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:08 pm going to falcon bc i dont feel safe with so many votes on me
im going to work so i wont be online for eod
love yall
[VOTE: vote:falcon ] aubergine really hope its mafia
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:17 pm
I like it
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:18 pm
[VOTE:
cape90] aubergine
perhaps my early gut ping in east was right
perhaps my early gut ping in east was right
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:21 pm
Alright, time to look at interactions with falcon and Abby. I'll start with people from the other thread, as I only have to look at this thread from here.
This was Davos's only post in the thread, voting a CW to falcon. This was apparently Abby's second choice after the falcon wagon, so maybe this implies a little coordination? Still, it's weak
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:34 pm
The closest thing they have to an Abby mention. Only TRed sig (so not falcon or Abby), but this was only based on D0 postsDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:27 pmThank you.
Of the players on your side, Sig was the only one I had a tr on, do you know who advised the town Sig?
Was pushing falcon quite earlyDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 pmEh. There was no townspewing from you from the N0 thread.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:01 pm
There shouldn't be 6 votes on me right now
I'm literally towning my ass off, it's just misunderstood
It's odd that in your posts here so far, you've brought nothing from the other thread nor do I see an explicit interest in the one you weren't in.
You're normally good about showing your within your townrange when you are town, where is that m8?
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:36 pmI'm good at reading Falcon, but I don't think this is townspewed Falc.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town
Who from y'alls thread who claimed to tr falcon that died?
Continuing to push falcon, while going against the lemonfairy wagon (the largest CW at the time).
More pushing of falcon, there's even more but I think you get my pointDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:24 pmI think Falc is a major wagon and I have to decide if I'm to vote. Should I not at least voice my opinion on the slot as that actually exists to an extent?Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:11 pmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 pmEh. There was no townspewing from you from the N0 thread.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:01 pm
There shouldn't be 6 votes on me right now
I'm literally towning my ass off, it's just misunderstood
It's odd that in your posts here so far, you've brought nothing from the other thread nor do I see an explicit interest in the one you weren't in.
You're normally good about showing your within your townrange when you are town, where is that m8?I think both of these pushes on falcon kinda look terrible, esp since wilgy and falcon haven't seen most of one another's messages since they were in different threads most of the game all togetherDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:36 pmI'm good at reading Falcon, but I don't think this is townspewed Falc.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town
Who from y'alls thread who claimed to tr falcon that died?
Plus Falc was one of the few players that I reviewed previously around d1.
Why exactly is this terrible that being the case?
Goes against falcon's vote, then votes falcon
Is fine with falcon vote, but doesn't completely disregard Delta wagon. If this is a bus, it'd have to be a very dedicated one (there is more that I didn't quote), and it does stand out that someone with a relatively lower postcount in this game has so many falcon interactions (I'll have to check the others to see if this is meaningful). Still, they didn't exactly do much else and there is nothing to suggest against an Abby pairing.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:41 pm I'm pretty sure Falcon is fine to yeet.
They are here and they haven't quite done anything about their wagon.
T Falc definitely cracks back strong and with their own solving.
DM is responding exactly like how I'd expect from them as town.
The fact that I have no memory of Delta in this thread but we have votes there is worth a note. If Falc wasn't a wagon I'd likely vote there.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:34 pm
Delta
This is a tricky thing given PA's alignment.
I think I'll keep it simple and stick with keeping Falcon in my View-Master.
This is a simple question about falcon and no follow up. Eh.
Notes from the West
-Falcon told Delta to give some reads. Delta told him to go fuck himself.
-Delta called Falcon maybe good on the basis of some discussion about the other thread that I don't recall and don't feel like investigating. Ah, had to do with sig slipping or some shit.
-Delta would vote Falcon to save someone he trusted (which by then was damn near everybody).
-leetic challenged him GTH and Delta answered Falcon would be his vote.
-Later said he didn't have much experience with Falcon and would also vote sig.
++++
Eh, somewhat compatible with Falcon. I'd lean no though.
Delta wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:27 pmah, got it☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:48 amI read falcon entirely off vibes and D1 I hard town read how he was vibing lolDelta wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:39 amWhat got you to your v!Falcon read to begin with?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:06 am I'd beg people to get off falcon but my thoughts on falcon are confusing and jumbled and I don't want to hurt town by pulling votes off a wolf if I'm wrong ugh
That said I'm rarely wrong on falcon. But Caitlin got me doubting myself...
I had something similar to this yesterday with people pushing Porscha ;_; so at least let's run through why you townread him to begin with and work from there? If you're rarely wrong on him, walk me through how you read him to begin with?
\o/
This is a tricky thing given PA's alignment.
I think I'll keep it simple and stick with keeping Falcon in my View-Master.
This is a simple question about falcon and no follow up. Eh.
What rubs me the wrong way the most is simply the timing of this vote. Falcon was already out the door. This vote does nothing, and there's nothing in this thread to substantiate any vote whatsoever on Falcon (or even in this post).Delta wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:43 pm of our thread, I feel most confident in LC/Abbi/Sloonei/Ricochet town, Epi/Leetic/TSP to a slightly lesser extent. Leaves question marks around Falcon/Sig. if there's town in either would go back and look at those I'm not as confident.
From the other side of the thread, I think WWA/DrWilgy/MR/Nutella have all seemed fine to me, nothing sure due to being first day back w both threads but that's my gut read for the opposing thread. Off of pure gut read I dont really think DM's reactions today feel wolfy, more in line with what I've skimmed from town games, but without seeing other thread there's only so much I can say on that. The rest have kinda just been white noise, Cape slight town ping but nothing huge.
[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine
I'm more comfortable voting within my facility today, as I mentioned earlier, so \o/
glgl o/
Notes from the West
-Falcon told Delta to give some reads. Delta told him to go fuck himself.
Spoiler: show
-Delta would vote Falcon to save someone he trusted (which by then was damn near everybody).
-leetic challenged him GTH and Delta answered Falcon would be his vote.
-Later said he didn't have much experience with Falcon and would also vote sig.
++++
Eh, somewhat compatible with Falcon. I'd lean no though.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:41 pm
This feels like such a weak statement that I would almost think it's evidence for unpairing them? Then again, this does feel like a noob wolf thing to say and I'm not sure of DM's overall experience level.DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:30 pm I am not exactly sure why falcon has the votes he does, but I wanna keep playing and helping town/civilians
Asks Abby to elaborate a read. This does stand out a bit in their ISO, the only other player who they asked for elaborations on a read not on themselves was nutella, and there was a full conversation between them. Not sure if this is supposed to be theatre or whatever, but the Delta suspicion is at least consistent in their ISO.DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:45 pmhow do you town read delta from any of the post he made? they seem like fluff to me
[VOTE: [VOTE:DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:08 pm going to falcon bc i dont feel safe with so many votes on me
im going to work so i wont be online for eod
love yall
[VOTE: vote:falcon [VOTE: really hope its mafia] aubergine] aubergine
Votes falcon pretty last-minute and only for self-pres reasons. "really hope its (sic) mafia" does feel a bit performative, but someone more familiar with them can tell me if that's a typical statement for them.] aubergine] aubergine
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:42 pm
^Got to learn to close them vote tags. 
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:43 pm
Heh
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:44 pm
If Abigail was semi confident that Falcon was town because he wasn't on her team, then perhaps she was using the same metric to say Delta was town.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:44 pm
I'm really digging Epi's casework so far. Also, I'm in agreement that Delta and Wilgy are on the less partnered -looking side of things wrt falcon.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:45 pm
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:46 pm
How confident did she seem in your thread that Delta was town? Did she ever say she was doubting her read on him or something, like how she waffled on falcon once he was a wagon here?
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:47 pm
Fluff interaction with Abby.Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:05 pmalso☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:04 amLemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:52 pm it's nice to have everyone in one thread again but at the same time, it feels so disorienting and I can't remember half of you
Hedges on falcon (then again, not only player they hedged on and TRs Abby. Abby's vote on them does look good on them being unpaired. It's a little odd how they ignored the huge falcon wagon, then again they were pretty insistent on voting someone from their own side.Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:46 pm Quick ISOs. This list is alphabetical btw.
Delta - Cheerful and cutesy first impression. Posts have mostly neutral/even tone. Will put them at mid now and change later after I've seen everyone. Could be scum.
Epignosis - Couple of takes. Feels alright.
falcon45ca - Couple of takes. Too many spaces. Feels alright.
leetic - Strong focus on pyxxy wagon and what happened. Feels alright/mid.
Long Con - Likes some posts. Probably first slot I feel OK putting in towns.
☆Princess Abigail☆ - Fighting for wolf pelt means this is probs town Abigail? Can see a few takes from rest of posts. Might be being a bit too generous.
Ricochet - Now that I've seen these wallposts, I've realized how obnoxious mine was. Sorry. ISO feels alright/pretty good.
sig - Not much there. Feels alight/mid.
Sloonei - It's kind of alright. Although the bar is set pretty low at this point. A bit wordy.
TonyStarkPrime - I remember Dyslexicon calling Tony town at least twice (not relevant but thought I'd mention it). After ISOing, feels mid.
Scrappy Doo - Definitely better than whatever Davos is doing. Towny tone. Feels alright.
Ordered list:
Long Con
Ricochet
Princess Abigail
Epignosis
falcon
Sloonei
Scrappy Doo
leetic
Tony
sig
Delta
Something like this.
I skimmed a lot so take it with salt.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:49 pm
Abby can still have the pyxxy pelt, right?
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:50 pm
DrWilgy
The second line is a wordy way of saying, "You've done nothing." There were a few people who fit that criteria at the time.
The third line is where I scratch my head. Falcon spent two phases away from DrWilgy. Eh.
There's a marked confidence for sure.
I think I'll stop there and not waste anymore time. Looking through the rest of the posts, Wilgy buried Falcon and didn't give two shits about it. There was plenty of room to go elsewhere.
I do not think DrWilgy is a teammate of Falcon.
The first line is whatever- I would not expect anybody to throw up entire villages in Night 0.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 pmEh. There was no townspewing from you from the N0 thread.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:01 pm
There shouldn't be 6 votes on me right now
I'm literally towning my ass off, it's just misunderstood
It's odd that in your posts here so far, you've brought nothing from the other thread nor do I see an explicit interest in the one you weren't in.
You're normally good about showing your within your townrange when you are town, where is that m8?
The second line is a wordy way of saying, "You've done nothing." There were a few people who fit that criteria at the time.
The third line is where I scratch my head. Falcon spent two phases away from DrWilgy. Eh.
I don't have the wherewithal to revisit (or visit) old threads and figure out Wilgy's curriculum vitae as it pertains to Falcon.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:36 pmI'm good at reading Falcon, but I don't think this is townspewed Falc.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town
Who from y'alls thread who claimed to tr falcon that died?
There's a marked confidence for sure.
I think I'll stop there and not waste anymore time. Looking through the rest of the posts, Wilgy buried Falcon and didn't give two shits about it. There was plenty of room to go elsewhere.
I do not think DrWilgy is a teammate of Falcon.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:51 pm
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:53 pm
Reads Abby town.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:20 pmSo Princess Abigail is town yeah?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:11 am I realize I am doing the same thing I'm accusing you of in my emotional response and I shouldnot do that
I do think the pelt is mine though
I think I'm wrong on someone in my town core who Caitlin was right about otherwise I think I'd be dead N1 over her
It could be falcon... but I don't want to think it is
Would be a weird post if Cape was Abby's partner, as it is almost begging for them to be modkilled and such reminders are usually done in wolfchat anywayCape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:23 pm1. why would you use gun differently then cop check?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:43 am If say I got a gun from someone than I would have used it on Daisy or Sig
If say I got a cop check from someone than I would have used it on Falcon or Delta
If say I got nothing from someone than none of this matters
2. you cannot hint at mech, just as a reminder
Pushes back on Wilgy's caseCape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:11 pmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 pmEh. There was no townspewing from you from the N0 thread.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:01 pm
There shouldn't be 6 votes on me right now
I'm literally towning my ass off, it's just misunderstood
It's odd that in your posts here so far, you've brought nothing from the other thread nor do I see an explicit interest in the one you weren't in.
You're normally good about showing your within your townrange when you are town, where is that m8?I think both of these pushes on falcon kinda look terrible, esp since wilgy and falcon haven't seen most of one another's messages since they were in different threads most of the game all togetherDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:36 pmI'm good at reading Falcon, but I don't think this is townspewed Falc.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town
Who from y'alls thread who claimed to tr falcon that died?
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:30 amIf you are having a great game, why are you getting pushed? are most people pushing for you in bad faith?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:29 pmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 pmEh. There was no townspewing from you from the N0 thread.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:01 pm
There shouldn't be 6 votes on me right now
I'm literally towning my ass off, it's just misunderstood
It's odd that in your posts here so far, you've brought nothing from the other thread nor do I see an explicit interest in the one you weren't in.
You're normally good about showing your within your townrange when you are town, where is that m8?
I can't force you to see things from my point of view, I feel I'm obv town
I'm the towniest town who's ever towned!
Maybe I'm having a bad game? But!
Has anyone ever considered that maybe I'm having a great game?
But is apparently also wolfreading falcon? Would be weird if they were trying to save falcon. Still, they ended on a vanity wagon for some reason.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:32 amAll this you/falcon talk is kinda screaming w/w to meEpignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:14 pmHe's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.
I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.
Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:54 pm
EOD3 votecount.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:00 pm Who is trying to sabotage the team?
Poll ended at Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:00:00 pm
Cape90
0
No votes
Voters: None
DarlingMonroe
6
24%
Voters: falcon45ca, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Epignosis, Sloonei, Lemonfairy
Davos
0
No votes
Voters: None
Delta
1
4%
Voters: nutella
DrWilgy
1
4%
Voters: Cape90
Dyslexicon
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
9
36%
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, sig, Delta, WindwardAway, Ricochet, Long Con, leetic, DarlingMonroe, DrWilgy
leetic
1
4%
Voters: Dyslexicon
Lemonfairy
2
8%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Davos
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
☆Princess Abigail☆
0
No votes
Voters: None
Ricochet
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sabiplz
0
No votes
Voters: None
Scrappy Doo
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
WindwardAway
0
No votes
Voters: None
Unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
Coaches/Spectators/Other
5
20%
Voters: Seanzie, JaggedJimmyJay, Caitlin, S~V~S, Scotty
I think falcon's vote on DM is *probably* indicative that he also may have had teammates on DM and maybe Lemon trying to save him, depending on whether they spread out or tried to consolidate. The one thing about his vote on DM that gives me pause is that he kinda worded it like he was just voting to self-pres, and that's still a move a wolf can make on a teammate, but DM arguably had a sizable wagon on them.
I really question why Davos the sock was voting Lemon rather than falcon, though. And I don't see Scrappy's vote, but at least they've been more active than Davos. I don't know where Davos's reads even come from because all they ever say is "Arrr!" which doesn't really tell us much.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:55 pm
Dyslexicon
This is a big nothing burger. Dyslexicon could be anything. Including a nothing burger.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:59 pm I thought people were town reading Falcon
But apparently not
Dyslexicon is struggling to care about the roof oof oof.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:04 pmYeah
Alison read Falcon town and said he was someone she can read well
If anyone cares
I think Radishes is kind of back on the menu for me
As in, he could very well be wolf
But also I struggle to care about the roof oof oof
This is a big nothing burger. Dyslexicon could be anything. Including a nothing burger.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:00 am
She was 90-100% confident Delta was town, I just went back and ctrl-F'd her ISO, and it's not hard to find surety in that regard.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:46 pmHow confident did she seem in your thread that Delta was town? Did she ever say she was doubting her read on him or something, like how she waffled on falcon once he was a wagon here?
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:02 am
Epi called this out as a TMI slip of sorts, and I do dig it. Cape knew falcon was a wolf when he said that.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:02 am
We're we both civilians last game?
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:02 am
*Weren't
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:02 am
what's odd to me is that this all reads as a sideward defense of falcon, but the fact that Dizzy didn't care enough to actually make a call against yeeting falcon makes me inclined to call him unpartnered anyway. I see him making a sort of read but not pushing it as something he thinks everyone should follow, and I'd expect him to be a little more agenda-heavy if he's on a team where nobody has flipped thus far, and his partner is on the chopping block.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:55 pm Dyslexicon
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:59 pm I thought people were town reading Falcon
But apparently not
Dyslexicon is struggling to care about the roof oof oof.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:04 pmYeah
Alison read Falcon town and said he was someone she can read well
If anyone cares
I think Radishes is kind of back on the menu for me
As in, he could very well be wolf
But also I struggle to care about the roof oof oof
This is a big nothing burger. Dyslexicon could be anything. Including a nothing burger.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:03 am
This would be slightly weird for falcon's partner to post, but it is a bit out of nowhereDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:59 pm I thought people were town reading Falcon
But apparently not
So they're talking about Alison. Not doing them yet, but reminds me of this TSP post:Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:04 pmYeah
Alison read Falcon town and said he was someone she can read well
If anyone cares
I think Radishes is kind of back on the menu for me
As in, he could very well be wolf
But also I struggle to care about the roof oof oof
Now Alison was on the other side, and a large part of my falcon suspicion was because the dead townies in my thread didn't read falcon town, and it's a weird thing to be fixated on besides. I can see a Dyslexicon's/TSP pairing here, though TSP's post is suspicious regardless of Dyslexicon's alignment but that's for another time.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town
Stayed on a vanity wagon. I mean, they didn't try to save falcon by converging to one of the CWs, but it's not like that would have changed anything. Anyway, no Abby interactions.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:38 pm I don't think DM is mafia
I don't really think Falcom is mafia either
I'm ok with my vote I guess
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:04 am
Thanks for the feedback.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:02 amwhat's odd to me is that this all reads as a sideward defense of falcon, but the fact that Dizzy didn't care enough to actually make a call against yeeting falcon makes me inclined to call him unpartnered anyway. I see him making a sort of read but not pushing it as something he thinks everyone should follow, and I'd expect him to be a little more agenda-heavy if he's on a team where nobody has flipped thus far, and his partner is on the chopping block.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:55 pm Dyslexicon
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:59 pm I thought people were town reading Falcon
But apparently not
Dyslexicon is struggling to care about the roof oof oof.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:04 pmYeah
Alison read Falcon town and said he was someone she can read well
If anyone cares
I think Radishes is kind of back on the menu for me
As in, he could very well be wolf
But also I struggle to care about the roof oof oof
This is a big nothing burger. Dyslexicon could be anything. Including a nothing burger.
I'm used to seeing a more active Dyslexicon. If I had to bet, I'd put a small wager on "Independent."
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:05 am
Yes, that is exactly my point. I'm not going to put all my eggs in the "Epi doesn't bus" basket as evidence that you're falcon's teammate.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:02 amWe're we both civilians last game?
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:05 am
I need to learn to speak Canadian.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:06 am
Got one more article to write this evening, so I'll be back shortly.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:07 am
That was exactly my thought as well, and why I said "unpartnered" specifically.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:04 amThanks for the feedback.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:02 amwhat's odd to me is that this all reads as a sideward defense of falcon, but the fact that Dizzy didn't care enough to actually make a call against yeeting falcon makes me inclined to call him unpartnered anyway. I see him making a sort of read but not pushing it as something he thinks everyone should follow, and I'd expect him to be a little more agenda-heavy if he's on a team where nobody has flipped thus far, and his partner is on the chopping block.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:55 pm Dyslexicon
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:59 pm I thought people were town reading Falcon
But apparently not
Dyslexicon is struggling to care about the roof oof oof.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:04 pmYeah
Alison read Falcon town and said he was someone she can read well
If anyone cares
I think Radishes is kind of back on the menu for me
As in, he could very well be wolf
But also I struggle to care about the roof oof oof
This is a big nothing burger. Dyslexicon could be anything. Including a nothing burger.
I'm used to seeing a more active Dyslexicon. If I had to bet, I'd put a small wager on "Independent."
I will say, though, that I've seen him roughly as engaged as he is here as town before in a game. I've also seen him more engaged than this as town, but iirc he said something in East Facility about taking it easy and not driving himself nuts with this game, and regardless of his alignment I believe it.
I'm not sure if I've seen him play as scum... I think maybe I did once, but it didn't stick in my memory.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:09 am
I believe there is sufficient evidence to confidently deduce who is in control of Davos.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:54 pmI really question why Davos the sock was voting Lemon rather than falcon, though. And I don't see Scrappy's vote, but at least they've been more active than Davos. I don't know where Davos's reads even come from because all they ever say is "Arrr!" which doesn't really tell us much.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:10 am
Arr you sure?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:09 amI believe there is sufficient evidence to confidently deduce who is in control of Davos.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:54 pmI really question why Davos the sock was voting Lemon rather than falcon, though. And I don't see Scrappy's vote, but at least they've been more active than Davos. I don't know where Davos's reads even come from because all they ever say is "Arrr!" which doesn't really tell us much.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:12 am
Yes and no. Such evidence was not present in the East Facility thread, so don't believe everything you see here.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:09 amI believe there is sufficient evidence to confidently deduce who is in control of Davos.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:54 pmI really question why Davos the sock was voting Lemon rather than falcon, though. And I don't see Scrappy's vote, but at least they've been more active than Davos. I don't know where Davos's reads even come from because all they ever say is "Arrr!" which doesn't really tell us much.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:16 am
Fluff conversation with falcon.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:58 pmWhat about a ukelele? Sitar?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:22 pmMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:04 pmI didn't know what brand you play.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:18 amMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:41 am Someone told me they missed me. It was very sweet. They also told me to kill Leetic.
Did you send me a guitar?
I'll play any brand w/ strings
What are your reads right now? Gut feels allowed
Reads in process of being mulled over and updated. I felt our side of things was relatively towny, not due to, like, amazing collective solving but more because a lot of slots felt pretty good. So I feel maybe I should raise the bar a bit higher.
Pushes falcon, but doesn't really elaborate on why.
Dares falcon to confront them.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:21 pmVote me then.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:15 pm
Yes, MR, it does actually, just like tea feels like crumpets & Scotch eggs feel Welsh
Just quoting this to say that a team of falcon/TSP/MR is unlikely.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:52 pmJoin the club with Falcon.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:51 pmI don’t believe youMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:42 pmDamn we on the same wavelength. I was even thinking about TSP recently and how he fit into teams fairly easily.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:40 pmTown: Dizzy, Long Con,
maybe Windward at this point.
Plus sig and Abi.
Radish, Epi, Sloon
also climbing up that way.
This is more than three
For scum, there's Lemon,
maybe falcon and sabi,
also TSP?
TSP looks like
type of slot that would be scum,
not talked about much
and leetic described
his pyxxy positioning
that didn't sound great
I think a (some combo of) Brad/pyxxy/Lemon/falcon/Sabi/TSP team could definitely be one that's demoralised in their current position.
Does remind WWA to make their falcon vote count, a minor point against them being paired.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:55 pm TSP's omgus is so strong he rage-misclicked my name in the poll and hit Falcon's instead.
Don't forget about the poll btw.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:48 pm I use the word more when I'm town, but regardless, I'm happy to join the "opportunism" :P
[VOTE: falcon] aubergine
don't think falcon's doing himself any favors right now.
Jumps ship off of MR for some reason, ostensibly to give them space. Would be excusable, except...Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:39 pm[VOTE: Unvote] auberginefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:20 pm Ah, it feels pretty suffocating to try and solve w/ 7 votes, but Goonies never say die
For context, Falc and I go way back, so not entirely info-less in terms of what I'd expect from him. I didn't articulate it because sometimes wordless pressure is the best pressure, but basically I was trusting others who were iffy on Falc from the West thread (and hadn't seen anything from Falc that would lead me to dispute their views). And I was playing with wagons a bit (I think I made it 4 vs Lemon's 5). His reaction to my vote made me actually suspicious of him, though.Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:15 pm Master Radishes
-- for someone from East, therefore info-less on falcon, vote drop was sudden, without hint of inquiry or reading into others' takes and a bit of "nuh-uh" retort to falcon calling it opportunistic (even prodding him to vote back). not ideal elements. later more elaborate, dismissing falcon's "exasperation" as outweighed by poor tone, something I do meld with.
-- had a good impression of him otherwise - active in developing reads and opinionated on enough players and events - but this on its own is a mixed bag
For whatever reason, never gets back on the falcon wagon and jumps on the CW! Also advocates for flashwagoning, like seriously? It's a bit bold, but that's all the positives I can say here. Also another one with no Abby interactionsMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:57 pm [VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine
Maybe this instead actually. I can see possibility of association to Brad in the East thread.
I'm not sure if I'll make it back before EoD or not. If I do I'd happily join some flashwagon shenanigans if any are on offer.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:28 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:40 pmStrong agree with thisWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:56 pm I notice quite a few players saying today that they'd rather vote within their Facility where they already have established reads. I do think that's pretty solid reasoning, but I will not commit my vote to the East Facility players if I find overwhelming evidence of someone being scummy who just happens to be from the West Facility. I like that there's already been a lot of discussion and catch-up on what's happened in each of our respective threads, and I'll encourage it to continue, because it's important to get the full picture of what we've missed. But I would be a little wary of the people who are agreeing to only vote someone from their Facility, because I do think it's an easy way for scum to cop out of voting a partner who's catching heat from the opposite thread. I think the original suggestion was towny, but imo the more who agree with it and push it as the correct play, the more likely that wolves are backing the idea.
even though I brought it up
it may not quite hold
I am starting to
see the case on falcon now
will consider him
Says they "will consider" falcon. Lightly shades them.
Abby town, falcon "maybe" wolfnutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:40 pmTown: Dizzy, Long Con,
maybe Windward at this point.
Plus sig and Abi.
Radish, Epi, Sloon
also climbing up that way.
This is more than three
For scum, there's Lemon,
maybe falcon and sabi,
also TSP?
TSP looks like
type of slot that would be scum,
not talked about much
and leetic described
his pyxxy positioning
that didn't sound great
Now townleans falcon, with little to explain the change in attitude besides the wagon being "stale"
And spent most of EoD shading the falcon wagon. Like I know having to post in haiku limits you, but come on these are some weak interactions. [VOTE: nutella] aubergine
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:31 am
I'm starting to come around on leetic.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:31 am
[VOTE:
VOTE: DIG B5] aubergine
@Scotty @S~V~S
@Scotty @S~V~S
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:31 am
Also oh god this game is multiball
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:36 am
If there is a busser on falcon, I think Wilgy fits the bill but I felt the wagon of that day was honestly mostly pure.
The DM push kind of bothered me because at 1 point 3 people were on DM and they were NOT from our thread. The main pusher was Epignosis, though I want to see who voted second/third because i dont remember
The DM push kind of bothered me because at 1 point 3 people were on DM and they were NOT from our thread. The main pusher was Epignosis, though I want to see who voted second/third because i dont remember
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:40 am
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 3]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:43 am
sig, Master Radishes, ☆Princess Abigail☆, leetic were all early names on falcon, 1 is dead mafia from the other team though, but i also feel like these names are less likely to be from falcon's team.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:08 pm Who is trying to sabotage the team?
Poll runs till Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:00 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.
You may select 1 option
Cape90
0
No votes
Voters: None
DarlingMonroe
1
6%
Voters: Epignosis
Davos
0
No votes
Voters: None
Delta
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyslexicon
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
1
6%
Voters: DarlingMonroe
falcon45ca
4
24%
Voters: sig, Master Radishes, ☆Princess Abigail☆, leetic
leetic
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lemonfairy
5
29%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Sloonei, nutella, WindwardAway, Dyslexicon
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
☆Princess Abigail☆
1
6%
Voters: falcon45ca
Ricochet
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sabiplz
0
No votes
Voters: None
Scrappy Doo
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
WindwardAway
0
No votes
Voters: None
Unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
Coaches/Spectators/Other
5
29%
Voters: Seanzie, JaggedJimmyJay, Caitlin, S~V~S, Scotty
lemonfairy voters as stated here at the time were NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Sloonei, nutella, WindwardAway, Dyslexicon, this is when lemon had majority, now i thought WWA was pretty cleared from being on falcon's team just from the conversations that WWA and nutella were having, at least in our thread. WWA kept insisting to other people that falcon was not cleared off their opening, and if you remember night 0, they commented on how they hated how falcon opened up in this game. Though with this I find it odd WWA wasn't on the falcon train here.
This contrasted nutella's treatment of falcon, which makes me a tad skeptical of nutella, but I think the worst looking vote here is NANOOK and he's been climbing up my scum rankings
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:43 am
Suspects falcon from N0WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:22 pmI suspected both sig and falcon in the N0 thread lol
maybe it's time I should do a little backreading but I'd like to hear the cases on them too
Surprisingly has like fifty posts after without mentioning falcon, but does vote them when their wagon is starting to pick up momentum. No stated reason beyond vague "don't think falcon's doing himself any favors" and presumed continuity with N0 readWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:48 pmI use the word more when I'm town, but regardless, I'm happy to join the "opportunism" :PLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:44 pmIt's the cheapest and easiest go-to reason for a Wolf to use as (part of) a reason to cast a vote on someone.
Town probably use it sometimes as well, it's an understandable way to feel when you're feeling besieged.
But mostly wolfy.
[VOTE: falcon] aubergine I do not feel like this is opportunistic, since I've made a case on you in the past, and have you in the red zone of my rainbow list.
[VOTE: falcon] aubergine
don't think falcon's doing himself any favors right now.
Finally, some significant Abby interactions! Speaks on Abby's behalf here while refuting part of a falcon defenseWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:27 amdidn't Abbi change her mind?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town
Says they would "never clear" Abby based off the nightkill, still I think Abby was more depending on the bus. Otherwise townreads AbbyWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:48 amI've seen wolf!Abbi kill town!Caitlin on N1 in a game before so I'd never clear her off of thatLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:22 amIf it's multiball, then the kill may not have come from him.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:06 amUgh I hate that I town read thisfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:33 pm Has nobody stopped to consider that scum falcon killing players who SR him is about as subtle as a brick?
Fur reelz, I have way more panache than that
Unvote
To be fair, if it's multiball, then Caitlin dying early to nightkill doesn't clear you either.
I think Abbi's been ok so far, though, and judging by what I've heard from her progression in the West Facility, she's probably town
Asks falcon to respond to one of Ricochet's arguments. Otherwise, stays parked on falconWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:41 pmFalcon hasn't shared any townreads?Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:10 pm So I'll work my way from the wagons to others, within my capability.
Wagons
Overall, I'd favor a falcon lynch over a Lemon or Monroe one. Grouping bias is a factor, cuz I've played and judged falcon down in West, whereas I know less on why the other two are wolfread or didn't catch all the details from others' cases.
Between Lemon and Monroe, I'd place Monroe within question marks, both in regards to why they've become a D3 wagon and what they've done in response.
So, falcon > Monroe > Lemon
falcon
West - pyxxy connection: none that could have been established, because they interacted with / mentioned each other a total of zero times
West D1-D2 judgement: ended D2 with a low opinion on him and down on my would-vote list; excluding pyxxy connections I considered (Porscha, Delta), he was the lowest ranked de facto. West gameplay resembled current gameplay: brief intervals of engagement, much of which was spent prodding others (with a degree of randomness, never focused) or reactive-toned defending when voted/wagoned
D3 judgement:
-- pretty much the same, tone and grasp of play have not improved.
-- noted him hitting back in rebuttal form at most of his wagoners (Sloonei's characterisations, calling MRadishes opportunistic, bark back at nutella), plus placing three others (leetic, sig, Abigail) within wolf pairings with no reasoning. so pretty much a kind of "you're all bad" howl.
-- parked defense into two main ideas: that the Western nightkills are a frame and that he is towning like mad and we fail to see it. Former boils down to wifom, as leetic also said; latter is not something I can agree with, based on what I've judged. I've read or remember no strong meta read from others on this gameplay, as it stands, being town!falcon indicative
-- meanwhile, withheld to offer townreads (apart from not wanting to vote LC and Epignosis).
-- of his votes, Abigail and Monroe were/are without discernible cause. Monroe isn't even the counterwagon to self-pres on, at the moment
Monroe
D3 judgement: only 3 posts, of which their essence is an aggro response and vote on Epignosis (for their vote / case on them); other reads (Delta ping, wouldn't wagon Lemon) all vague. It doesn't look great, of course, to drop and omgus upon the very first interaction with a player from the other group. But also not the deepest material to make a solid case out of. Hence the question mark status.
Lemon
D3 judgement: I'd structure 3 phases, thus far, of activity.
-- first phase (posts 1-3) in which she mentioned postponing activity and also a statement on the merger being a sensible disorienting moment. I think some wagoned her starting for as little as this and, without proper context if this would classify as a pattern from wolf!lemon (that I can remember), I felt it was undeserved.
-- second phase (pre legacy post), with a first wave of rebuttals (at nutella and Windward). something about wanting to sit more on it. at worst, could display nerviness in face of pressure.
-- third phase (the legacy post): quite a shift from small bites to extensive reads. rebuttal-wise, argues more than the cases on her are not solid or convincing, then also tiers the wagoners based on individual performance. if this alone (or more of this throughout D3), without suss pressure, would have been Lemon's activity, I'd probably read it well. given suss and wagon pressure, I am missing meta info on whether Lemon would as to go steroids, from feeble to opinionated, as wolf. also, a bit funny to have labeled it as "legacy", as if the lynch is a done deal.
tldr: falcon suss (with no prevailing meta info that he towns this way), Monroe who knows (startled by bad form, but tis all so far), lemon no real ping on her elaborate reply
@falcon45ca is this true?
And actually, the way Lemon said she expires D3/D4 made it sound more like she might die from a mechanical effect and not just because she might get lunched. I could be reading into it too much, though, and I know she can't confirm or deny it.
Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 4]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:47 am
If Wilgy bussed falcon here, it would have been quite a committed bus. Is Wilgy known for doing that kind of thing? I believe I've only dealt with wolf!Wilgy once and that was eight years ago where he death tunneled meCape90 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:36 am If there is a busser on falcon, I think Wilgy fits the bill but I felt the wagon of that day was honestly mostly pure.
The DM push kind of bothered me because at 1 point 3 people were on DM and they were NOT from our thread. The main pusher was Epignosis, though I want to see who voted second/third because i dont remember