Re: The Game of Champions 2024 [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:46 am

Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
S~V~S wrote:She hasn’t said anything overtly towny, but I’m not seeing anything bad there, either. I am not surprised by her vote for Sprit based on the reasons she made it. That vote might alarm me day 3 maybe, it is pretty NAI to me Day 1, wagon or off wagon isn’t something she much cares about I think as opposed to what she thinks is right.
I never said your energy was chaotic what I said was:
I said you were all over the map---Roxy wrote: Porscha wow. You are all over the map. You have sussed people then cleared them, buddying up the thread. I've missed you and your energy in games I have played but I could vote here.
Nope. Just a number.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:59 amDo you pick a target as well as your number? (It's okay if you don't feel like answering)S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:35 am @Michelle
You seem to know what your role does, I don’t. I roll dice and get a number. Can’t get the same # twice.
The relation of my roll and the color ranks on my list could totally be coincidence. But still my guess is we have a lot of poll manips so it might be smart to avoid ties and too much vote spreading if possible when voting.
What game was that? I don’t recall it.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:53 amProbably a good idea, there were a few vote manip roles in Napoleon Dynamite. I don't think I've ever seen someone's readslist have mechanical importance? (except for Roxy's tiebreak lists, but she knew what she was doing with those)S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:35 am @Michelle
You seem to know what your role does, I don’t. I roll dice and get a number. Can’t get the same # twice.
The relation of my roll and the color ranks on my list could totally be coincidence. But still my guess is we have a lot of poll manips so it might be smart to avoid ties and too much vote spreading if possible when voting.
So his few posts and his throw away vote and Lime and Daisy not having their gears turning is towny for you but mine wasn't --got it. Thanks for clarifying.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:59 pmThing is, nobody's really defended you either (who is Ariya? My granddaughter). Who would you expect here to defend how you have played btw?No one but SVS did defend me with truths about my playstyle, maybe you missed them?
I was thinking about this & sprityo's response overnightRoxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 4:41 pm Sprityo your Darling vote is a cop out with all that is in the thread. I despise D1 low poster votes just bc they cba'ed to have opinions on things that are in the thread. I am also 98% sure low poster votes d 1 lead to much towny sadness whenI have seen them. Voting here vote sprityo
and I kind of feel like the notion of the vote is towny but for bad reasons like the fact that sprityo hasn't really helped with anything yet in terms of doing anything significantsprityo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:43 pm One last post before work for you @Roxy
Not a cop out, genuinely want to play the game with you all and day 1 (in my opinion) is the most inconsequential day to vote off someone who isnt even here. Especially someone who literally checked in to confirm playing and had this far been away. In either case, I’d rather the people with the time and are invested in doing their day 1 sleuthing take the reins. My vote stays, I’ll check back with yall after work![]()
like all this basically encapsulates everything sprityo has done this game so far and it's all just substance-less commentary on... like kind of what happened????? Like it feels like sprityo isn't fit to be the one to make a vote on DarlingMonroe like that but he did anyways and I find that sort of town-indicative
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bad read i know, but in a game state like this where there have been like some people this game that have hardly got their gears going, not including lime coke or spacedaisy, it's something I guess
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:53 amProbably a good idea, there were a few vote manip roles in Napoleon Dynamite. I don't think I've ever seen someone's readslist have mechanical importance? (except for Roxy's tiebreak lists, but she knew what she was doing with those)S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:35 am @Michelle
You seem to know what your role does, I don’t. I roll dice and get a number. Can’t get the same # twice.
The relation of my roll and the color ranks on my list could totally be coincidence. But still my guess is we have a lot of poll manips so it might be smart to avoid ties and too much vote spreading if possible when voting.
I know what my role does.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:35 am @Michelle
You seem to know what your role does, I don’t. I roll dice and get a number. Can’t get the same # twice.
The relation of my roll and the color ranks on my list could totally be coincidence. But still my guess is we have a lot of poll manips so it might be smart to avoid ties and too much vote spreading if possible when voting.
I can't remember all the meta details especially this kind of thing who can be easy manipulated if needed.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:41 amMichelle wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:24 pmI think it's bad the fact she didn't say a thing about you and LCS~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:19 pmShe hasn’t said anything overtly towny, but I’m not seeing anything bad there, either. I am not surprised by her vote for Sprit based on the reasons she made it. That vote might alarm me day 3 maybe, it is pretty NAI to me Day 1, wagon or off wagon isn’t something she much cares about I think as opposed to what she thinks is right.
Sorry i fell asleep again and I can't stay much
Sorry I did not conform to *your* timeline with my response.
If you have played with me before than you would know/remember that I don't give reads on LC and SVS on D1's - this would also apply to anybody I find hard to read tbh.
I will say both feel towny to me as of this moment in time.
This si not a town role at least bI hope not.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:11 amI have a wild theory that it could have to do with who we targeted at night.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:07 amgoing to hold off so we can wait for a claim or anyone else to share some wild theories but I think this is pretty level 1.
do you have any theories?
Or it's just a 1-shot town role who can pick 4 people.
I think you completely misunderstood me. I was saying that your tiebreak role in Napoleon Dynamite was an example of a readslist having mechanical importance.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:59 amThunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:53 amProbably a good idea, there were a few vote manip roles in Napoleon Dynamite. I don't think I've ever seen someone's readslist have mechanical importance? (except for Roxy's tiebreak lists, but she knew what she was doing with those)S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:35 am @Michelle
You seem to know what your role does, I don’t. I roll dice and get a number. Can’t get the same # twice.
The relation of my roll and the color ranks on my list could totally be coincidence. But still my guess is we have a lot of poll manips so it might be smart to avoid ties and too much vote spreading if possible when voting.
Please explain to me what I knew what I was doing? What a way to sling mud without actually doing it. No quotes, no proof just shade. My what a big oak tree you became.
You seem to suspect me so far and I'm on the poll. If you think the poll is a setup do you think the people on it are town?Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:04 pmI know what my role does.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:35 am @Michelle
You seem to know what your role does, I don’t. I roll dice and get a number. Can’t get the same # twice.
The relation of my roll and the color ranks on my list could totally be coincidence. But still my guess is we have a lot of poll manips so it might be smart to avoid ties and too much vote spreading if possible when voting.
This poll feels set-up-py to me.
Not that you asked for opinion but there it is.
sorry my opinions were nothing. I'll try to do better.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:43 amThat's pretty much it, yeah. I'm not going to say otherwise. I haven't caught anyone who isn't a low poster doing anything I find wolfy other than Porscha who I meta checked and realized she wasn't wolfy.
I thought your catch up post was kind of a nothing post and didn't think voting Sprityo for voting DM there made a lot of sense so I had you as just below null, but I also preferred a Sig vote over you.
<3nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:46 amNo uTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:55 amYou’re a wolfnutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:28 pm ok i have read eod, main takeaway is it feels like something is fishy about the roxy/sprityo interaction in some direction, also don't like tsp's vibe so far
town
svs
michelle
abbi
cape
town?
thunal
porscha
scotty
long con
meh
pyxxy
sig
wilgy
bleh
tsp
darling
roxy
sprityo![]()
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:11 pmI think you completely misunderstood me. I was saying that your tiebreak role in Napoleon Dynamite was an example of a readslist having mechanical importance.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:59 amreally great clarification thank you.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:53 amProbably a good idea, there were a few vote manip roles in Napoleon Dynamite. I don't think I've ever seen someone's readslist have mechanical importance? (except for Roxy's tiebreak lists, but she knew what she was doing with those)S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:35 am @Michelle
You seem to know what your role does, I don’t. I roll dice and get a number. Can’t get the same # twice.
The relation of my roll and the color ranks on my list could totally be coincidence. But still my guess is we have a lot of poll manips so it might be smart to avoid ties and too much vote spreading if possible when voting.
Please explain to me what I knew what I was doing? What a way to sling mud without actually doing it. No quotes, no proof just shade. My what a big oak tree you became.
I guess what I was trying to get at is I just think your reads there just don't say much of anything.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:25 amFirst how was I inquisitive when I was giving opinions and not asking questions? Wouldn't inquisitive imply questions?Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:41 pmAnyways rn I could move around the top TRs like:Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:47 pm My townreads in order are
Michelle
Long Con
Princess Abigail
Porscha
Scotty
SVS
Thunal?
I think my strongest wolf lean is Roxy with like 0% confidence
like there is something a bit strange and awkward with the things i highlightedRoxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 1:22 pm Ok so only daisy and pyx have not posted yet. Hopefully Epi is prodding them but I am unsure bc of Porcha's intro post.
Not seeing anything wrong with Scotty and his questioning/posting.![]()
Not seeing sig as sk at all.![]()
Actually it's very early for me to mention anything so I am done now.![]()
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Michelle
PA
Scotty
Long Con
Porscha
but i guess that's kind of arbitrary
[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine
I just feel like Roxy is pretending to be inquisitive here
Second Scotty was being talked about (started by SVS) so hence my opinion
Third Wigly came in and called sig a sk then PA agreed so hence my opinion again.
Fourth this post was for me to know who had not yet posted.
Explain how it was pretending to be inquisitive.![]()
fucked up in the quotes --clarified for all hopefully. my answer is large and red. you could say big red.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:18 pmThunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:11 pmI think you completely misunderstood me. I was saying that your tiebreak role in Napoleon Dynamite was an example of a readslist having mechanical importance.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:59 amreally great clarification thank you.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:53 amProbably a good idea, there were a few vote manip roles in Napoleon Dynamite. I don't think I've ever seen someone's readslist have mechanical importance? (except for Roxy's tiebreak lists, but she knew what she was doing with those)S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:35 am @Michelle
You seem to know what your role does, I don’t. I roll dice and get a number. Can’t get the same # twice.
The relation of my roll and the color ranks on my list could totally be coincidence. But still my guess is we have a lot of poll manips so it might be smart to avoid ties and too much vote spreading if possible when voting.
Please explain to me what I knew what I was doing? What a way to sling mud without actually doing it. No quotes, no proof just shade. My what a big oak tree you became.
As I said, for convenience. And sorry, I didn’t put the number of votes because it is very small.
You know, this is a fair thoughtRoxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:10 pmThis si not a town role at least bI hope not.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:11 amI have a wild theory that it could have to do with who we targeted at night.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:07 amgoing to hold off so we can wait for a claim or anyone else to share some wild theories but I think this is pretty level 1.
do you have any theories?
Or it's just a 1-shot town role who can pick 4 people.
it's a mafia/baddie role let me explain my thought process:
Why would a towny limit conversation? They wouldn't. Mafia would. They hate daytime talk and if they can narrow the focus then they have more control of the vote.
If I was towny and this was my role I would NEVER use it. It would be too limiting for the town.
So maybe it had nothing to do with my #Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:22 pmYou know, this is a fair thoughtRoxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:10 pmThis si not a town role at least bI hope not.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:11 amI have a wild theory that it could have to do with who we targeted at night.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:07 amgoing to hold off so we can wait for a claim or anyone else to share some wild theories but I think this is pretty level 1.
do you have any theories?
Or it's just a 1-shot town role who can pick 4 people.
it's a mafia/baddie role let me explain my thought process:
Why would a towny limit conversation? They wouldn't. Mafia would. They hate daytime talk and if they can narrow the focus then they have more control of the vote.
If I was towny and this was my role I would NEVER use it. It would be too limiting for the town.
Posting for the sake of posting thanks for clarifying what you meant by your poor word choice. Though I quite disagree my post wasn't trying to contribute - it was my opinions before eod. Would it have been better for me to just throw a vote out with no reasons of how I got there or or no post at all?Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:19 pmI guess what I was trying to get at is I just think your reads there just don't say much of anything.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:25 amFirst how was I inquisitive when I was giving opinions and not asking questions? Wouldn't inquisitive imply questions?Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:41 pmAnyways rn I could move around the top TRs like:Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:47 pm My townreads in order are
Michelle
Long Con
Princess Abigail
Porscha
Scotty
SVS
Thunal?
I think my strongest wolf lean is Roxy with like 0% confidence
like there is something a bit strange and awkward with the things i highlightedRoxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 1:22 pm Ok so only daisy and pyx have not posted yet. Hopefully Epi is prodding them but I am unsure bc of Porcha's intro post.
Not seeing anything wrong with Scotty and his questioning/posting.![]()
Not seeing sig as sk at all.![]()
Actually it's very early for me to mention anything so I am done now.![]()
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Michelle
PA
Scotty
Long Con
Porscha
but i guess that's kind of arbitrary
[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine
I just feel like Roxy is pretending to be inquisitive here
Second Scotty was being talked about (started by SVS) so hence my opinion
Third Wigly came in and called sig a sk then PA agreed so hence my opinion again.
Fourth this post was for me to know who had not yet posted.
Explain how it was pretending to be inquisitive.![]()
The Scotty post was just kind of you defending their posting without citing anything
The sig thing I think is some sort of inside joke. Saying someone is or isn't SK is hardly a read in the first place, like how do you determine that?
It's like your post was posting for the sake of posting but also wanting to contribute content without having any real thoughts. Inquisitive is the wrong word for that but whatever
You are gonna have to ask Scotty on that one since I actually didn't find your wall at EOD scummy.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:25 pmPosting for the sake of posting thanks for clarifying what you meant by your poor word choice. Though I quite disagree my post wasn't trying to contribute - it was my opinions before eod. Would it have been better for me to just throw a vote out with no reasons of how I got there or or no post at all?Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:19 pmI guess what I was trying to get at is I just think your reads there just don't say much of anything.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:25 amFirst how was I inquisitive when I was giving opinions and not asking questions? Wouldn't inquisitive imply questions?Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:41 pmAnyways rn I could move around the top TRs like:Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:47 pm My townreads in order are
Michelle
Long Con
Princess Abigail
Porscha
Scotty
SVS
Thunal?
I think my strongest wolf lean is Roxy with like 0% confidence
like there is something a bit strange and awkward with the things i highlightedRoxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 1:22 pm Ok so only daisy and pyx have not posted yet. Hopefully Epi is prodding them but I am unsure bc of Porcha's intro post.
Not seeing anything wrong with Scotty and his questioning/posting.![]()
Not seeing sig as sk at all.![]()
Actually it's very early for me to mention anything so I am done now.![]()
![]()
Michelle
PA
Scotty
Long Con
Porscha
but i guess that's kind of arbitrary
[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine
I just feel like Roxy is pretending to be inquisitive here
Second Scotty was being talked about (started by SVS) so hence my opinion
Third Wigly came in and called sig a sk then PA agreed so hence my opinion again.
Fourth this post was for me to know who had not yet posted.
Explain how it was pretending to be inquisitive.![]()
The Scotty post was just kind of you defending their posting without citing anything
The sig thing I think is some sort of inside joke. Saying someone is or isn't SK is hardly a read in the first place, like how do you determine that?
It's like your post was posting for the sake of posting but also wanting to contribute content without having any real thoughts. Inquisitive is the wrong word for that but whatever
Not that I'm gonna change but I would like an answer all the same.
But why pick these 4 in particular?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:11 amI have a wild theory that it could have to do with who we targeted at night.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:07 amgoing to hold off so we can wait for a claim or anyone else to share some wild theories but I think this is pretty level 1.
do you have any theories?
Or it's just a 1-shot town role who can pick 4 people.
Ohhhh I see it now.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:13 amOh yeah I just saw how I'm different from the others.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:07 amgoing to hold off so we can wait for a claim or anyone else to share some wild theories but I think this is pretty level 1.
do you have any theories?
Maybe just a coincidence?
I’m going to run the numbers eventually, haven’t yet. I’d estimate it’s like 6-7% probability which honestly is not a lot to go on and obviously it doesn’t make you a wolfThunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:13 amOh yeah I just saw how I'm different from the others.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:07 amgoing to hold off so we can wait for a claim or anyone else to share some wild theories but I think this is pretty level 1.
do you have any theories?
Maybe just a coincidence?
Agreed. After reading all of Roxy’s posts on this page, she is just town town town. The feistiness, the progressions.
understood.
I had forgotten I voted in the first place tbh.
I mean, if you're a 'guilty until proven otherwise' person that makes sense.
I am perfectly capable of not being safe as mafia and making some spicy pushes.Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:01 pmAgreed. After reading all of Roxy’s posts on this page, she is just town town town. The feistiness, the progressions.
Thunal….i have a read developing. It’s very safe and although I agreed with her D1 votes almost lockstep, it still all feels so safe and not as ready to jump in the egg patch, so to speak.
[VOTE: Thunal] aubergine
This post feels weird. I don't think having one in LC Porscha Michelle is a natural conclusion and I'm worried about that group having all town.pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:39 amwhat I remember of you is that you're a miskill target for always voicing your opinion, even when it doesn't make sense to othersLong Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:16 pmYou need engagement. Everyone, pyxxy needs engagement, so please direct some questions and conversations pyxxy's way. This is the cure for juicelessness.pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 4:17 pmmy last memory of syndicate was me playing when I didn't have the juice, which was a metaphor for not really feeling it and not enjoying mafia
also had a shit diplomacy game a few months ago and I'm in a phase of wondering if online posting makes me act meaner than is good
so wasn't sure how coming back for goc would feel
pyxxy, Michelle and I went back and forth about her stated reasons for giving Abigail a townread. She gave a couple of loose reasons to townread Abbi, and, in my opinion, those reasons don't match thread history.
On a scale of 1-10, what are the chances that I'm voting for Michelle based on subjective minutiae that I see as a red flag?
voting for michelle lines up with that perfectly, although I saw that Porscha doesnt' townread Michelle and that was in response to someone maybe assuming that Porscha did townread Michelle? which made me blink because I had also assumed for some reason that Porscha townread Michelle, so the correction was a good post, unless it's Porscha preemtively avoiding blame for a town Michelle flip, because posting about it would at least keep Michelle's name in the active conversation and that's how people die
which is to say...one in you Porscha Michelle?
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Um, sorry. I know you didn't use that exact word, but I think it encapsulates what you said just fine. "All over the map" "buddying and dropping reads" = chaotic, which i find neutralRoxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:51 amI never said your energy was chaotic what I said was:
I said you were all over the map---Roxy wrote: Porscha wow. You are all over the map. You have sussed people then cleared them, buddying up the thread. I've missed you and your energy in games I have played but I could vote here.
then a separate thought----
I've missed your energy------
If you want to suspect me go ahead but please use my own words/quotes.