The Syndicate

Made wrote:I'm going away. If anyone yell at me for inactive, they will be shot

Where is Made? He's been gone for over an hour.

boo wrote:Spoiler alert: It's probably just more bullshit.

In regards to the list: Agreed.

Elohcin wrote:The thread is so slow. I think we should have a vote again for 24/24 vs. 28/24

Agreed.

Black Rock wrote:I think I could get on board with a Made or Nisani lynch today.

Agreed.

Today is slow, but it will pick up. 48 is too hard, more people miss votes. Also the "Epi Vacuum" . Later when we have less people (and that will be pretty soon the way things are going) we should definitely revote, though.

I am leaning more towards Nisani than Made. That old Immortal role makes me leery of another survival. But I will be OK if the thread goes that way as well, at least that way we know for sure.

It will be slow in the first 24 hours or more during a 48/24 game with about 15 players or less. Watch, everyone will be here in the last 4-6 hours before the day's end.

And, what do you mean by the "Epi Vacuum"?

I mean without Epi posting, it's a lot quieter.

First, I don't think Epi posted a whole crazy amount. Second, I thought you were happy when players posted and planned on voting low posters.

Nah, only Day One. Not every day, there has been enough discussion that low posters is not something we need to resort to.

And here are the top 5 posters

Epignosis 111
Metalmarsh89 73
unfurl 71
S~V~S 64
G-Man 54

Epi by FAR outposted everyone else. So with him gone, it's quieter. I never said that was good. Are you mad at me? You kinda sound that way.

I hope it picks up before the lynch.

S~V~S wrote:Nah, only Day One. Not every day, there has been enough discussion that low posters is not something we need to resort to.

And here are the top 5 posters

Epignosis 111
Metalmarsh89 73
unfurl 71
S~V~S 64
G-Man 54

Epi by FAR outposted everyone else. So with him gone, it's quieter. I never said that was good. Are you mad at me? You kinda sound that way.

You post a lot. :P

Can't shut a bitch up

S~V~S wrote:Nah, only Day One. Not every day, there has been enough discussion that low posters is not something we need to resort to.

And here are the top 5 posters

Epignosis 111
Metalmarsh89 73
unfurl 71
S~V~S 64
G-Man 54

Epi by FAR outposted everyone else. So with him gone, it's quieter. I never said that was good. Are you mad at me? You kinda sound that way.

Well she did burn a lynch pardon on him just to have him get killed the following night, so I doubt she's to happy with anyone.

Made wrote:What I can't figure out is how/or why Cupid linked Epi and Bullz. Unless Epi had information about his link to Bullz, how would Epi known to go after Bullz? Could cupid of known to attach the two for comedic effect by attaching them late? Was it just blindly hilarious luck?

I feel a likely solution would be that Epi had information on Bullz, but that information was limited.

Also it should be noted that something happened to Death last night.

Well, Epi and Bullz started their verbal sparing late in Day 1. Most of it was during Day 2 but it is possible that Cupid saw their banter Day 1 and went for the lulz. In speed games, disputes tend to spill over into the next day if both parties survive the night. It could have happened Night 2 but that would have been a major stroke of luck.

boo wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Nah, only Day One. Not every day, there has been enough discussion that low posters is not something we need to resort to.

And here are the top 5 posters

Epignosis 111
Metalmarsh89 73
unfurl 71
S~V~S 64
G-Man 54

Epi by FAR outposted everyone else. So with him gone, it's quieter. I never said that was good. Are you mad at me? You kinda sound that way.

Well she did burn a lynch pardon on him just to have him get killed the following night, so I doubt she's to happy with anyone.

Is this fact-based or more Epi/Nisani emulation?

Made has an interesting theory... I didn't realize the power-from-name-mentions thing caught on, that was an ability I came up with in Freckle's BYO game on the piano a while back

G-Man wrote:

Made wrote:What I can't figure out is how/or why Cupid linked Epi and Bullz. Unless Epi had information about his link to Bullz, how would Epi known to go after Bullz? Could cupid of known to attach the two for comedic effect by attaching them late? Was it just blindly hilarious luck?

I feel a likely solution would be that Epi had information on Bullz, but that information was limited.

Also it should be noted that something happened to Death last night.

Well, Epi and Bullz started their verbal sparing late in Day 1. Most of it was during Day 2 but it is possible that Cupid saw their banter Day 1 and went for the lulz. In speed games, disputes tend to spill over into the next day if both parties survive the night. It could have happened Night 2 but that would have been a major stroke of luck.

boo wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Nah, only Day One. Not every day, there has been enough discussion that low posters is not something we need to resort to.

And here are the top 5 posters

Epignosis 111
Metalmarsh89 73
unfurl 71
S~V~S 64
G-Man 54

Epi by FAR outposted everyone else. So with him gone, it's quieter. I never said that was good. Are you mad at me? You kinda sound that way.

Well she did burn a lynch pardon on him just to have him get killed the following night, so I doubt she's to happy with anyone.

Is this fact-based or more Epi/Nisani emulation?

Besides Epi himself, I don't think anyone other than Eloh would have pardoned him in that lynch. I don't think Epi did it himself.

G-Man wrote:

Made wrote:What I can't figure out is how/or why Cupid linked Epi and Bullz. Unless Epi had information about his link to Bullz, how would Epi known to go after Bullz? Could cupid of known to attach the two for comedic effect by attaching them late? Was it just blindly hilarious luck?

I feel a likely solution would be that Epi had information on Bullz, but that information was limited.

Also it should be noted that something happened to Death last night.

Well, Epi and Bullz started their verbal sparing late in Day 1. Most of it was during Day 2 but it is possible that Cupid saw their banter Day 1 and went for the lulz. In speed games, disputes tend to spill over into the next day if both parties survive the night. It could have happened Night 2 but that would have been a major stroke of luck.

But Cupid's role states he picks at the beginning of the game.

Made wrote:... and thought he was supposed to role play? He is a relatively inexperienced player and i did that my first game...

THAT WAS ROLE PLAYING?!?!? I THOUGHT WE WERE TRUE HOMIES MADE :'( :'( :'(

Made wrote:

G-Man wrote:

Made wrote:What I can't figure out is how/or why Cupid linked Epi and Bullz. Unless Epi had information about his link to Bullz, how would Epi known to go after Bullz? Could cupid of known to attach the two for comedic effect by attaching them late? Was it just blindly hilarious luck?

I feel a likely solution would be that Epi had information on Bullz, but that information was limited.

Also it should be noted that something happened to Death last night.

Well, Epi and Bullz started their verbal sparing late in Day 1. Most of it was during Day 2 but it is possible that Cupid saw their banter Day 1 and went for the lulz. In speed games, disputes tend to spill over into the next day if both parties survive the night. It could have happened Night 2 but that would have been a major stroke of luck.

But Cupid's role states he picks at the beginning of the game.

Day One is the beginning It does not say "before". When I had a role like this, I had until the end of Day One.

And re the role playing & Nisani, considering he is taking heat for it, I would think it is time for him to stop, if that is what he is doing. I had planned to vote earlier today, but i can hold off to see if he makes an appearance to say something *not* inexplicable, lol.

nutella wrote:Made has an interesting theory... I didn't realize the power-from-name-mentions thing caught on, that was an ability I came up with in Freckle's BYO game on the piano a while back

Intriguing. I've never encountered that ability before. It actually sounds pretty cool but I hope it's not in play here. It kind of reminds me of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows where Voldemort made his name a Taboo, allowing him to find anyone who says his name. So do we start calling N----i "You Know Who"?

Made wrote:But Cupid's role states he picks at the beginning of the game.

I missed that or misinterpretted that. Interesting.

S~V~S wrote:

Made wrote:But Cupid's role states he picks at the beginning of the game.

Day One is the beginning It does not say "before". When I had a role like this, I had until the end of Day One.

And re the role playing & Nisani, considering he is taking heat for it, I would think it is time for him to stop, if that is what he is doing. I had planned to vote earlier today, but i can hold off to see if he makes an appearance to say something *not* inexplicable, lol.

I incorrectly assumed it meant that Cupid picked two lovers on Night 1. If Cupid had to pick early on Day 1, then it's a hilarious coincidence. If they had until the end of Day 1, then it might make more sense that Cupid went for the lulz factor after seeing them start their back-and-forth.

I would like to hear more from both Made and You Know Who today. I'd like to hear each of you provide reasons why we should lynch the other instead of you. Please give us something concrete and easy to digest.

Im going to be busy this mornining,
so Im torn agin on who to vote if to go for Made for the day 1 survival being perhaps connected to a secret role or Nisani who gives me the creeps, and perhaps lynching him will help us see where all his talk is coming from???
tomato and tomatoe
Im votting for Made

I'm voting boo now. I won't be around much today,

G-Man wrote:
I would like to hear more from both Made and You Know Who today.

What would you like to hear from me, friend? I very much care to say more, especially since what i've said so far isn't sufficient in the slightest.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm voting boo now. I won't be around much today,

Any reason why? You've voted for him in each lynch poll so far. Are you just being consistent or do you still have suspicions? Why not Made or You Know Who? That probably won't get old!

Made wrote:

G-Man wrote:
I would like to hear more from both Made and You Know Who today.

What would you like to hear from me, friend? I very much care to say more, especially since what i've said so far isn't sufficient in the slightest.

I'm not trying to on the post count issue. Some of your posts have been substantive, which is more than some can say. I'm just trying to generate discussion. This is admittedly a terrible game for discussion because there is no group end goal to work toward and we all want each other dead anyway. But anywho, is there any reason why your Day 1 lynch survival should not make us any more wary of you?

Also, do you have a reason for voting for me over You Know Who or anyone else?

I'm going to vote for Nisani now, I just can't get into the game today.

I feel the same BR! I blame the weather

I am not seeing where Made explained his lynch survival. I do not like roles that have tildes and his obv does. I really do not believe it was from the day 0 poll.

Votes!

Happy sunshiney day everyone!

Also Weekend at Bernies ftmfw!

It's not a sunshiney day here In fact, it has been rainy all week and I can't wait for some sun so I can send the kids outside to play. They are going a little bit crazy.

I too am interested in why you are voting boo, MM.

Niju, what are your thoughts today, we haven't heard much from you. Are you still settling in with RL stuff?How is that all going by the way? I've been thinking about you and Epi says lunch is not the same without you

I think this game is fun, I do. But it is kind-of weird. I mean...there isn't much to do/talk about. We aren't really trying to figure out who is "bad" as there is no Mafia. If we do figure out who someone may be, we don't want to openly share this info with the thread, of course or even try to convince the thread that so-and-so is such-and-such. I find it hard to know what to discuss. Maybe we need more games and challenges in a(n) LMS game

So, how is everyone doing today? We had a music recital in our homeschool group today and Abigail (age 5) sang Somewhere Over the Rainbow. She did well It was her first time singing on a stage with an audience. It was amazing to see the older children perform. Epi took off work so he could come and see Abigail. He was very impressed with the musical talent of these 10-12 year olds. I told him, "When you can finish school by lunch time, you have the afternoon to focus on becoming excellent at an extracurricular activity . One of the girls (about 12 or so) played a song on the piano that she wrote for a composition competition. It was based on a story that she wrote. After she was done playing Epi whispered, "We have a little prog rocker here." Overall, the performances were very impressive.

SVS, do you know who you want to vote for today? If so, why?

I have said Nisani or Made. I was leaning Nisani but was hoping he would show up and perhaps stops role playing or whatever Made suggested he might be doing.
I think he's possibly trying to steer the thread, and have not liked most of the things he has said. I will probably have to vote soonish.

Why just ask me?

I didn't just ask you, I asked Niju too

S~V~S wrote:Can't shut a bitch up

Bitches gonna bitch!!!!

Ok, Cool, eloh. I missed that. I was just worried, you sounded kinda annoyed at me last night, I guess that must have been in my head

Linki,

Rabbit who are you voting for

S~V~S wrote:Ok, Cool, eloh. I missed that. I was just worried, you sounded kinda annoyed at me last night, I guess that must have been in my head

Linki,

Nope, not annoyed

While I admire his chutzpah as a new player, I have to say I am concerned about Nisanis motives.

He gets my vote today.

fingersplints wrote:Rabbit who are you voting for

Made? You?

I try to help. I look out for everyone's best interests. And this is how I am treated.

When surrounded by those who seek to hurt me, I can only help so much. If I cannot help you now, my purpose is lost. Perhaps it is best for me to be lynched.

I will be voting for Made, as he masked his intent to join the Squadron-- he instead used his false admittance as grounds for speculation against me. Even after my death, I hope you will all see why this is dangerous, anti-Town behavior.

Enrique is a genius, and all mafia hosts should be like him.

Ok guys, if you may, throw traditional mafia out the window.

While I didn't want to admit it earlier (because death), SVS had the right idea early on, thinking about the game differently than you think of a typical mafia game.

In a traditional mafia game, as civvie, your goal is to work together against a common unknown enemy. This game is very different. The goal of this game is to misdirect, but without the use of secrets to hide behind. There's no outright lying because-- if you want to view the game from a traditional mafia perspective-- everyone is mafia


So where does that leave us? Each player can be looked at as a threat, and how much of a threat they could possibly be is based not on their alignment or behavior, but how much damage they could do to you. Using this we can sort of prioritize who is the biggest threat

Didn't mean to press submit, but w/e

Anyways, killing roles are the biggest threat to us all, I think everyone would agree, so they should take priority and focus. Remove them from the game would make those players who aren't killer now on equal (or at least more so) equal footing with their peers.

The best course of discussion right now would be who would kill who and why? I doubt anything more than double deflections or framing would of happen at this point as few people have yet to bring it up.

Starting with
"He who shall prolly die tonight"- Killing his teammate would be smart, but not this early. If people supported him, vocally or otherwise, it makes no sense to kill even one of them off during the early, wild wild west part of the game, especially considering his own deflection and crazy acting. His teammates/allies could of work as a deflection at the very least to prevent what's probably going to happen tonight.

It would make sense to talk crazy, it would make sense to kill teammates. Not both.

I think a great place to start would be Dana. Those who know who dana is would be the least likely to kill her for multiple reasons

1. Dana has only played in 2 games on this site, including this one, so i very much doubt that people who knew that would kill her, this early anyways
2. Dana's remote enough for the majority of the player base that it's very likely the killer choose her because remoteness.
3. A combination of knowing who Dana is, and killing her anyways would be very mean. While possible, a distancing strategy like that wouldn't work very well unless everyone had knowledge of Dana's relations to other players this game, which few players do.

And discuss!

*correction- Dana has played in 3 games including this one: MP, Misfits, and LMS 3*

Made I also think it's important that we prioritize who we tthink is a big threat. I think someone who can survive a lynch can become a big problem later in the game. So im voting Made.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Made I also think it's important that we prioritize who we tthink is a big threat. I think someone who can survive a lynch can become a big problem later in the game. So im voting Made.

Let's assume that i do know how i survived (which i don't). and that it's role related.
Which is more of a threat: A role that can survive lynches (which btw make no sense to vote me if you believe that), or a role that can kill you?

Elohcin wrote:Niju, what are your thoughts today, we haven't heard much from you. Are you still settling in with RL stuff?How is that all going by the way? I've been thinking about you and Epi says lunch is not the same without you

I'm here! And I thought I voted, but I was wrong. I've been weirded about by Nisani since Day 1 and have agreed with boo that he is probably BS'ing, so I'm happy to vote his way today. In regard to your other question, RL is going well but has been quite a change! I'm still adjusting to getting up earlier, work is crazy busy with paperwork and parent e-mails (amazing what happens when parents are involved - it's like night and day from the "other place"), and I'm not as free to check/respond to mafia during work hours, which is probably a good thing :P I'm also closer to old friends here, and they wanna hang out and have a real social life, even during the week. I'd forgotten what that was like, so I'm doing the balancing act with all of that. I do miss those lunches with everyone back there, though, however short they were. I will be back down that way to see my old babies graduate, but/and we should plan a hangout soon

Made, if I'm reading you correctly (I'm a little sleep-deprived, so forgive me if I'm wrong or being obvious there's a better word than that, but I can't think of it), you're saying to look at people not associated with Dana or who haven't had much interaction with her in mafia are the ones that probably have the killing powers? I could see that.

Made wrote:Didn't mean to press submit, but w/e

Anyways, killing roles are the biggest threat to us all, I think everyone would agree, so they should take priority and focus. Remove them from the game would make those players who aren't killer now on equal (or at least more so) equal footing with their peers.

The best course of discussion right now would be who would kill who and why? I doubt anything more than double deflections or framing would of happen at this point as few people have yet to bring it up.

Starting with
"He who shall prolly die tonight"- Killing his teammate would be smart, but not this early. If people supported him, vocally or otherwise, it makes no sense to kill even one of them off during the early, wild wild west part of the game, especially considering his own deflection and crazy acting. His teammates/allies could of work as a deflection at the very least to prevent what's probably going to happen tonight.

It would make sense to talk crazy, it would make sense to kill teammates. Not both.

I think a great place to start would be Dana. Those who know who dana is would be the least likely to kill her for multiple reasons

1. Dana has only played in 2 games on this site, including this one, so i very much doubt that people who knew that would kill her, this early anyways
2. Dana's remote enough for the majority of the player base that it's very likely the killer choose her because remoteness.
3. A combination of knowing who Dana is, and killing her anyways would be very mean. While possible, a distancing strategy like that wouldn't work very well unless everyone had knowledge of Dana's relations to other players this game, which few players do.

And discuss!

Dana has played Dr. Who, Monty Python, Misfits, and this game.

Regardless, you aren't wrong, that she is a bit of a remote player and doesn't play much. But there is a group of players in this game who have never played here, or have not played here in a while.

G-Man, rabbit (3rd game), boo, bullzeye (2nd game back I think), Nisani, nutella, unfurl. That's a hearty looking list.

So you are saying that you think that someone on that list killed her? I still think that since everyone needs everyone else dead, players are less likely to hold back too much.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
G-Man, rabbit (3rd game), boo, bullzeye (2nd game back I think), Nisani, nutella, unfurl. That's a hearty looking list.

So you are saying that you think that someone on that list killed her? I still think that since everyone needs everyone else dead, players are less likely to hold back too much.

Yes but look closer: Nisani and Nutella know dana outside of mafia, Nutella being the person who introduced her (and me) to mafia, so she's off the list. Nisani's off the list because the abovemented killing Dana would really dumb, and Nisani's smart.

I didn't realize you guys know nutella too, especially since she apparently lives over on my side of the country (Oregon). Nisani, I feel like you guys said you knew Nisani, but I was uncertain.

And you say Nisani is smart. Nisani also voted you. Coincidence?

Oh goodie, discussion! I'll have to catch up and respond to some of it later. It's dinner time and there's hockey on tonight. Rabbit and Splints are more than welcome to vote as they wish. They could tie this thing up if they wanted to. As for me, I'm not going to vote for either You Know Who or Made because the time bomb is still out there and I'm not gonna risk it.

Voting for Rabbit because that furry varmint has been awfully quite lately.

G-Man wrote:Oh goodie, discussion! I'll have to catch up and respond to some of it later. It's dinner time and there's hockey on tonight. Rabbit and Splints are more than welcome to vote as they wish. They could tie this thing up if they wanted to. As for me, I'm not going to vote for either You Know Who or Made because the time bomb is still out there and I'm not gonna risk it.

Voting for Rabbit because that furry varmint has been awfully quite lately.

Do rabbit and fingersplints usually need your go-ahead to vote?

Sorry just got internet back....

G-Man wrote:Oh goodie, discussion! I'll have to catch up and respond to some of it later. It's dinner time and there's hockey on tonight. Rabbit and Splints are more than welcome to vote as they wish. They could tie this thing up if they wanted to. As for me, I'm not going to vote for either You Know Who or Made because the time bomb is still out there and I'm not gonna risk it.

Voting for Rabbit because that furry varmint has been awfully quite lately.

You son of a!!!!!!!1

Yeah, my bad I have an ISO audit next week and we are getting ready. I will try to be more productive.