The Syndicate

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:19 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:13 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:11 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:19 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:39 pm If I have Nut, Radish and Syn as hard town, does that sound reasonable? Anyone I should add?

The three of us in our own ways got Marmot yeeted so I agree.

JPIC is my top town and has been all game. Just a vibe thing, like I just feel the green oozing from him as he posts even when he's not like actively solving or anything. I'd turn on Syn or Nutella before JPIC tbh.

Michelle also pretty firmly town in my eyes and has been all game too.

(regarding the enlargard font) Huh. I have JPIC below Syn and Nutella (it's, like, Nutella > Syn > JPIC in order) -- he's, like, either at the bottom of my strong townreads, or at the top of my slight townreads.

I think I kinda like you having JPIC as your top town. It feels non-consensus-y.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:30 pm I don't really trust Hyena, but I don't know them. What was Marmot's reaction to the claim business that I never understood anyway?

You can trust me. <3 I promise I don't bite.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:52 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:51 pm Radish in the thread interacting but ignoring my questions...hmmm...

Well, he IS a Master, so he prolly thinks he's above you

Yo, can you stop fluffing for bit? Talk to me about game stuff. @falcon45ca

Since you asked, yes I can.

What would you like to know?

Top townread, top scumread, please. No need to explain anything right this second. <3

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:48 pm Shouldn’t we chop Hyena as a UN read?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:49 pm That reminds me, did hyena say who they targeted N2 with the dead chat thingy?

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:30 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:28 pm ScumBucket:

MasterRadishes
Falcon
112
Hyena
Nanook
HK
Syn
Tim

Bucket updated.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:32 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:30 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:28 pm ScumBucket:

MasterRadishes
Falcon
112
Hyena
Nanook
HK
Syn
Tim

Bucket updated.

Why is TSP not in that bucket?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:30 pm Top town: MR, Nutella, Michelle


Top Scum: hollowkat, tedxtr, tuutu


These are gut reads, I've got no evidence, just feels. It's been a tough game for me, I can't seem to get going

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:32 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:32 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:30 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:28 pm ScumBucket:

MasterRadishes
Falcon
112
Hyena
Nanook
HK
Syn
Tim

Bucket updated.

Why is TSP not in that bucket?

active scum not poe. These are all people I have reason to believe are scum. It's also why Tutuu isn't in this bucket

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:28 pm ScumBucket:

MasterRadishes
Falcon
112
Nanook
HK
Hyena
Syn
Tim

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:31 pm i'm clearing this bucket.

Why is Hyena Town? Why is 112 Town? Nanook? HK?

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:28 pm ScumBucket:
MasterRadishes
Falcon
112
Hyena
Nanook
HK
Syn
Tim


I'm feeling four baddies in this group, and then maybe with a deep wolf of Sloonei

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:37 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:28 pm ScumBucket:
MasterRadishes
Falcon
112
Hyena
Nanook
HK
Syn
Tim


I'm feeling four baddies in this group, and then maybe with a deep wolf of Sloonei

Wait, were Syn and Tim actually in your scumbucket? o:

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:30 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:48 pm Shouldn’t we chop Hyena as a UN read?

lol, what is an UN read?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:49 pm That reminds me, did hyena say who they targeted N2 with the dead chat thingy?

Yeah. I gave Nutella a chat with Dya. Speaking of which, @nutella any word from Dya?

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Whoo, I think I'm caught up! \o/

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:35 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:30 pm Top town: MR, Nutella, Michelle


Top Scum: hollowkat, tedxtr, tuutu


These are gut reads, I've got no evidence, just feels. It's been a tough game for me, I can't seem to get going

I'm vibing with you on all those reads except for Hollowkat/Thunal. I concluded that Thunal (now HK) was spewed town by Cat D1. I haven't attempted to reeavaluate the slot since then though.

Do you have any read on JPIC or Syn by any chance?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:00 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:59 pm I have reason to believe that falcon is town, I think, and tutuu is also probably town.

Like...a reason compelling enough I should switch? What’s your thoughts on the game at large, Kyle?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:27 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:59 pm I have reason to believe that falcon is town, I think, and tutuu is also probably town.

How confident are you on your reason?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:49 pm oh hey we're voting the person who I had my vote on for most of d2

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:51 pm [VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Getting cold feet

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:52 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:51 pm [VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Getting cold feet

you just don't like me smh

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:13 pm Also, another random though,

Could Falcon be some sort of Jester role? That would be funny, lol

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:36 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:32 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:32 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:30 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:28 pm ScumBucket:

MasterRadishes
Falcon
112
Hyena
Nanook
HK
Syn
Tim

Bucket updated.

Why is TSP not in that bucket?

active scum not poe. These are all people I have reason to believe are scum. It's also why Tutuu isn't in this bucket

I think you might have a clean miss here.

nutella
4
Voters: Marmot, MacDougall, Syn, Jackofhearts2005

Thunal33
3
Voters: dyachei, Sloonei, Marmot

112
4
Voters: Master Radishes, MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Long Con

nutella
3
Voters: cat, Syn, Jackofhearts2005

Master Radishes
5
Voters: tutuu, Thunal33, DrWilgy, Dyslexicon, nutella

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:12 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:03 pm I was gonna argue he wasn’t “lolcatting” but he did self vote and say peace out fuckers so it’s pretty pedantic atp.

I'm so confused, are the votes that count the posted votes or the poll votes?

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:36 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:28 pm ScumBucket:

MasterRadishes
112
Nanook
HK
Wilgy
Falcon
Hyena
Syn
Tim

Bucket updated with more humans, removed a few too.


I think MR and 112 always contains at least one wolf.

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:28 pm ScumBucket:

MasterRadishes
112
Nanook
HK
Wilgy
Falcon
Hyena
Syn
Tim

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:36 pm Cat had a silencer role. Someone got muted.

Marmot had a Tetris role. I got a Tetris challenge N2 after Marmot died.

Scum have a universal backup it seems. No way they use that power on a teammate who's not even under much suspicion on N1.

Sloonei gets a pass until late game if he's still alive, then we can re-eval.

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:05 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:28 pm ScumBucket:

MasterRadishes
112
Nanook
Wilgy
HK
Falcon
Hyena
Syn
Tim

Bucket updated with reasoning for removal
Hk/Thunal- this is who cat and marmot pushed when seemingly defending someone. I don't think this slot is bad for the same reason Nutella looks good here
falcon- playing consistent to meta, and Marmot left his vote on him for almost all of D2 with intention to push. Probably just town
Hyena- Sufficiently not involved enough in this situation for me to sus. Vote at time of podrace was on Made, i'm cool with that for now.
Syn- got voted by marmot during Cat wagon, voted Marmot first. probably just town.
Tim- spewed by marmot. this and other reasons, probably just town

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:28 pm ScumBucket:

MasterRadishes
112
Nanook
Wilgy
HK
Falcon
Hyena
Syn
Tim

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:57 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:39 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:14 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:58 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:50 pm
My working theory
- The Marmot wagon is completely clean. No scum at all. With no strong case against Marmot and the wagons going every which way, I bet scum felt that they could pull off an alternate yeet with enough work
- Tim and Martin were alternative yeets pushed by scum so that they wouldn't lose another teammate
- Nanook is scum, and LC and Michelle are town, correctly pushing Nanook as scum.
- Dizzy is scum, and 112 and Falcon are town, correctly pushing Dizzy as scum
- 112 is town, and maybe(?) one scum between Kyle and TSP? I'm least sure about this part.

This isn't quite accurate. I did not push Nanook as scum, I voted there simply to sheep nutella earlier. I assumed I would be changing my vote by the end of the day.... I pictured myself being there by the end of the day, but I forgot that the end time was earlier than I'm used to.

This post reminds me of LC in Bread game. He doesn't agree with a clear on himself, most likely speaking with an honest tone.
Analogy makes him a villager fmpov

@Hyena I don't think you should have a working theory that's basically a random solve of the game. I've been "pushing" Nanook though, but tbh it's based on total vague feelings and 80 % guesswork. Who pushed Tim and Martin as an alternative to Marmot then? Can you name names?

"I don't think you should have a working theory that's basically a random solve of the game."
Yes, I should. <3

"Can you name names?"
Nah, I can't.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:44 pm @Timsup2nothin

Talk to me about the game state. Gimmie the cliffs. Etc.

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:15 pm Hi Martin, I think we're mind melding. What are your reads on 112 and Master Radishes?

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:58 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:36 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:32 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:32 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:30 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:28 pm ScumBucket:

MasterRadishes
Falcon
112
Hyena
Nanook
HK
Syn
Tim

Bucket updated.

Why is TSP not in that bucket?

active scum not poe. These are all people I have reason to believe are scum. It's also why Tutuu isn't in this bucket

I think you might have a clean miss here.

my misses are based on interactions and vote record between 112, hyena, nanook, and HK as well as Marmot and Cat.

Check this out:
Marmot starts vote on Nutella for most of day (probably clearing her)

nutella
4
Voters: Marmot, MacDougall, Syn, Jackofhearts2005

Then for the first recorded time Marmot finally switches his vote to Thunal33

Thunal33
3
Voters: dyachei, Sloonei, Marmot

but Marmot only switches his vote AFTER a wagon on 112 is established, and cat swings his vote to nutella from Made

112
4
Voters: Master Radishes, MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Long Con

nutella
3
Voters: cat, Syn, Jackofhearts2005

Master Radishes
5
Voters: tutuu, Thunal33, DrWilgy, Dyslexicon, nutella

Someone is getting saved here. I just know it. Cat and Marmot coordinated their votes to get these wagon going. Who are they saving?
Marmot's vote doesn't stay on Thunall long. When the cat wagon starts, Marmot is voting Syn--more evidence that Syn is probably just town.

I might add a few more people from this to my bucket

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:17 pm
Radish. I am not really all in that "how about a flash wagon" merits giving him credit for the Marmot pelt, but there was really no reason for a w!Radish to play the w/w game with me at that point in day two. That game for a wolf would be based on expecting me to flip town. w!Radish would know that I am in fact not a wolf, but player Radish knows I am extremely slippery and was most likely going to evade the chop. The play for w!Radish there is to just avoid involvement.

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:21 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:17 pm
Radish. I am not really all in that "how about a flash wagon" merits giving him credit for the Marmot pelt, but there was really no reason for a w!Radish to play the w/w game with me at that point in day two. That game for a wolf would be based on expecting me to flip town. w!Radish would know that I am in fact not a wolf, but player Radish knows I am extremely slippery and was most likely going to evade the chop. The play for w!Radish there is to just avoid involvement.

What does this mean?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:20 pm

Spoiler: show

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:58 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:36 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:32 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:32 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:30 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:28 pm ScumBucket:

MasterRadishes
Falcon
112
Hyena
Nanook
HK
Syn
Tim

Bucket updated.

Why is TSP not in that bucket?

active scum not poe. These are all people I have reason to believe are scum. It's also why Tutuu isn't in this bucket

I think you might have a clean miss here.

my misses are based on interactions and vote record between 112, hyena, nanook, and HK as well as Marmot and Cat.

Check this out:
Marmot starts vote on Nutella for most of day (probably clearing her)

nutella
4
Voters: Marmot, MacDougall, Syn, Jackofhearts2005

Then for the first recorded time Marmot finally switches his vote to Thunal33

Thunal33
3
Voters: dyachei, Sloonei, Marmot

but Marmot only switches his vote AFTER a wagon on 112 is established, and cat swings his vote to nutella from Made

112
4
Voters: Master Radishes, MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Long Con

nutella
3
Voters: cat, Syn, Jackofhearts2005

Master Radishes
5
Voters: tutuu, Thunal33, DrWilgy, Dyslexicon, nutella

Someone is getting saved here. I just know it. Cat and Marmot coordinated their votes to get these wagon going. Who are they saving?
Marmot's vote doesn't stay on Thunall long. When the cat wagon starts, Marmot is voting Syn--more evidence that Syn is probably just town.

I might add a few more people from this to my bucket

Might be stretching the narrative. Sure, 'saving' is possible, but it might just be trying to establish early on people they thought were likely day one (or at least early) chops. Syn always looks like a day one chop that could happen, and I've seen Nutella eat the day one chop as well. They are both likely places for me to vote early as a wolf just to see if maybe they take off and make me look good.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:52 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:00 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:59 pm I have reason to believe that falcon is town, I think, and tutuu is also probably town.

Like...a reason compelling enough I should switch? What’s your thoughts on the game at large, Kyle?

I think so. In my opinion at least. Will give my thoughts on game at large when I am no longer at work.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:27 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:59 pm I have reason to believe that falcon is town, I think, and tutuu is also probably town.

How confident are you on your reason?

like 70%. I can explain later. It's unlikely that falcon is mafia.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:45 pm Actually, a townread that’s online would be a better idea. @Michelle wheres your head at?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:23 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:21 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:17 pm
Radish. I am not really all in that "how about a flash wagon" merits giving him credit for the Marmot pelt, but there was really no reason for a w!Radish to play the w/w game with me at that point in day two. That game for a wolf would be based on expecting me to flip town. w!Radish would know that I am in fact not a wolf, but player Radish knows I am extremely slippery and was most likely going to evade the chop. The play for w!Radish there is to just avoid involvement.

What does this mean?

It means Radish is probably just town here. He knows I am a bundle of wildly flailing sharp objects and as a wolf he'd have just stayed clear until I was either certainly certainly dead or unquestionably gonna pull out of it.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:22 pm also p#8815 is a book and the largest wall that I've ever seen that isn't 80% quote spam