Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D3
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:17 pm
having an outed wolf being voted and no apparently way to kill them before EOD makes it hard to like, feel motivated to solve much
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:40 pmOkay true. But at least as of right now we've got a good portion of the playerlist cleared. And there's always a chance the wolves mess up the soup, if even one person has fudged their role claim enough.Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:37 pm"But we're in a good position mech-wise"Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:33 pmI mean, yeah, we can make a wolf case out of anyone at this point. It's all about construing intentions.Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:28 pmI think we're at that stage we don't even know what to do so if anyone ever bothers to grab an ISO and biasedly slap wolf motivation behind every post that already makes a better case than any static POE we keep flip-flopping around.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:15 pm Creature is in the wider PoE, but I don't think ilario's casing has moved him from being in the outer portion of it for me.
But we're in a good position mech-wise, at least as far as we can tell, and we have a red to chop today, so I don't mind ilario casing the shit out of you like this. It's good to poke and prod at the fringes to see what shakes out. Ideally someone slaps LP about a bit too, for instance. Actually I think if this game is lacking something it's proper cases. People are largely resorting to single-post reads or generic 'I think they're town/scum' without much expansion. I don't mean we need just the conventional iso & analyse, but it might help for people to actually go back into isos and check their assumptions again to challenge or confirm them a bit before repeating the same reads ad nauseum.
Nope. We aren't. If my count is correct, wolves can get up to five soup kills tonight and that'd bring us to 6 v 4 not counting sabie's vig shot.
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:49 pmThe soup chef isn't outed if all their guesses are correct.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:48 pm Should also note that the soup chef is outed the morning after. So worst case scenario we go 6 v 4, but actually we'll know one more, which gives us one more piece of intel to triangulate.
I'm feeling strangely optimistic. That worries me.
wait.. you just commented on it 2 posts ago though? how did you not read it?
This is the way the world ends
I didnt even know c4 was going to shoot him. I just wanted to shoot into the top wagons so we could do more with d1Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:19 pmi'm still holding the marmot kill against dya even though everybody else has thrown it to the side. I remember game state was highly suggesting that c4 was gonna use his shot on marmot so why not just have dya use it to coast as fake townie. idk for sure thoughCreature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:15 pmI also suspect dyachei but the Marmot kill still holds some cred.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:15 pmEhhh I think Dya and I were the progenitors of the Guillo wagon at EoD most of all.
thanks. I'm trying to catch up but Im like 20 pages behind right now
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:19 pmi'm still holding the marmot kill against dya even though everybody else has thrown it to the side. I remember game state was highly suggesting that c4 was gonna use his shot on marmot so why not just have dya use it to coast as fake townie. idk for sure thoughCreature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:15 pmI also suspect dyachei but the Marmot kill still holds some cred.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:15 pmEhhh I think Dya and I were the progenitors of the Guillo wagon at EoD most of all.
I would definitely not. I've made it pretty clear why if I were a wolf going deep would be the worst thing for meCreature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:39 pmNot sure if dyachei strikes me as a wolf player that would set themselves to go deep.
Oh well congratulations!dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:22 pm I was apparently coasting so hard I helped get a guillo elim. Yup thats me, entirely coasting
I wish people wouldnt use buzzwords that make no contextual sense
I'm posting as able after being at term for pregnancy and subsequently giving birth during this game. I'm sorry I'm not active enough to people like porscha (who i still looks pretty bad and the only thing going for them is belzy's say so)
Tsp wolf whose lolcatting after redcheck
what i've seen of creature looks very much like his town game
i have a name damnit
Sprit please give us some reads please sprityo I need your reads please.Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:39 ami have a name damnit
im literally playing the game the best of my ability, stop shading me (and mac)![]()
Congratulations Dyadyachei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:22 pm I was apparently coasting so hard I helped get a guillo elim. Yup thats me, entirely coasting
I wish people wouldnt use buzzwords that make no contextual sense
I'm posting as able after being at term for pregnancy and subsequently giving birth during this game. I'm sorry I'm not active enough to people like porscha (who i still looks pretty bad and the only thing going for them is belzy's say so)
Mac his slots just reads a wolfy all game long, individually, so if he also looks scummy for other reasons, then that only would make sense to me.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:29 pm As I read TSP's iso I get further confbiased into a w!Mac world. There's not meat to anything they say to each other. They talk to and about each other but they don't talk *to* or *about* each other.
A non-exhaustive selection of what I mean:
Spoiler: show
I didn't realise the soup chef wouldn't be outed if they only guessed X number and got them all right. In my initial post I was just speaking generally that they might mess it up for the roles they do think they know.alexa wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:21 pmMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:40 pmOkay true. But at least as of right now we've got a good portion of the playerlist cleared. And there's always a chance the wolves mess up the soup, if even one person has fudged their role claim enough.Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:37 pm"But we're in a good position mech-wise"Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:33 pmI mean, yeah, we can make a wolf case out of anyone at this point. It's all about construing intentions.Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:28 pmI think we're at that stage we don't even know what to do so if anyone ever bothers to grab an ISO and biasedly slap wolf motivation behind every post that already makes a better case than any static POE we keep flip-flopping around.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:15 pm Creature is in the wider PoE, but I don't think ilario's casing has moved him from being in the outer portion of it for me.
But we're in a good position mech-wise, at least as far as we can tell, and we have a red to chop today, so I don't mind ilario casing the shit out of you like this. It's good to poke and prod at the fringes to see what shakes out. Ideally someone slaps LP about a bit too, for instance. Actually I think if this game is lacking something it's proper cases. People are largely resorting to single-post reads or generic 'I think they're town/scum' without much expansion. I don't mean we need just the conventional iso & analyse, but it might help for people to actually go back into isos and check their assumptions again to challenge or confirm them a bit before repeating the same reads ad nauseum.
Nope. We aren't. If my count is correct, wolves can get up to five soup kills tonight and that'd bring us to 6 v 4 not counting sabie's vig shot.Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:49 pmThe soup chef isn't outed if all their guesses are correct.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:48 pm Should also note that the soup chef is outed the morning after. So worst case scenario we go 6 v 4, but actually we'll know one more, which gives us one more piece of intel to triangulate.
I'm feeling strangely optimistic. That worries me.wait.. you just commented on it 2 posts ago though? how did you not read it?
Only thing that comes to mind is that he's cased two villagers so far (assuming LP is a villager), and he's tried to paint me as scum albeit on a smaller scale. Not sure what his reads were like wrt dizzy, marmot and tspMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:56 am Someone tell me Sloonei's agenda this game as scum, or where he has been clearly helping wolves, or something.
Reads on known scum are pretty much non-existent. But then again he was slanking for a lot of time so that's not damning in and of itself imo.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:00 amOnly thing that comes to mind is that he's cased two villagers so far (assuming LP is a villager), and he's tried to paint me as scum albeit on a smaller scale. Not sure what his reads were like wrt dizzy, marmot and tspMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:56 am Someone tell me Sloonei's agenda this game as scum, or where he has been clearly helping wolves, or something.
I'm feeling like this right now. I keep trying to go through isos and I'm like oh hey maybe that makes sense then I way overthink it and then I'm like that's not it.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 9:58 am I can't tell if I'm just really bad at reading isos/am overdoubting myself or if wolves have just done a bang up job this game of controlling spew.
Yeah I read through his iso and he says dizzy is town by default but later said that wasn't a legit read. I didn't see him say anything about marmot. Tsp was mildly mentioned. He did some analyzing of dizzy interactions. Kind of pushed c4. One thing I do remember is a long time ago there was a game where he was mafia and shot his teammate and rode that cred for awhile.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:06 amReads on known scum are pretty much non-existent. But then again he was slanking for a lot of time so that's not damning in and of itself imo.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:00 amOnly thing that comes to mind is that he's cased two villagers so far (assuming LP is a villager), and he's tried to paint me as scum albeit on a smaller scale. Not sure what his reads were like wrt dizzy, marmot and tspMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:56 am Someone tell me Sloonei's agenda this game as scum, or where he has been clearly helping wolves, or something.
The two things that made me go 'hmm' were (a) he very quickly had a V read on me and stuck with it through a time when no one else had that, and (b) if Wilgy and/or Mac are scum he gave them fairly easy V reads too.
But he's also towncased a lot of town / likely town along the way. And his words all make sense when doing so. And of course they do because he's Sloonei, but still.
Maybe I need to find a recent scum game to read.
Technically my last mafia game was Philosophy II, but I did not really play.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:53 pm Can someone give me:
(a) A relatively recent Sloonei scum game
(b) A relatively recent Wilgy scum game
?
I think wilgy kinda always has the same play style regardless of alignment but here’s CoffiaMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:53 pm Can someone give me:
(a) A relatively recent Sloonei scum game
(b) A relatively recent Wilgy scum game
?
You are in the POE. I have done no painting.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:00 amOnly thing that comes to mind is that he's cased two villagers so far (assuming LP is a villager), and he's tried to paint me as scum albeit on a smaller scale. Not sure what his reads were like wrt dizzy, marmot and tspMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:56 am Someone tell me Sloonei's agenda this game as scum, or where he has been clearly helping wolves, or something.
same thingSloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:48 pmYou are in the POE. I have done no painting.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:00 amOnly thing that comes to mind is that he's cased two villagers so far (assuming LP is a villager), and he's tried to paint me as scum albeit on a smaller scale. Not sure what his reads were like wrt dizzy, marmot and tspMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:56 am Someone tell me Sloonei's agenda this game as scum, or where he has been clearly helping wolves, or something.
Yeah I'll say some things before EOD, driving home today as I'm staying with my parents for the week and it's a long drive so I may not be here until like an hour before EOD but I'll definitely have time before then to get some stuff outMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:00 pm And everyone has gone for a rest now that we have TSP lined up, and I get that, but honestly @alexa @Belzy @Porscha @falcon45ca you guys are increasingly likely to be souped soon, so now may be your last chance to say things.