Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D3
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:53 pm
Wilgy, Sloonei, Creature are 3 wolves poe clamped and dining out on me imo.
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Sounds like bullshit.Creature wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:52 pmNah, there's a significant risk wolves can endgame tonight if they received vig shots as prizes.Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:51 pmI've not run numbers but I'd be inclined to demand Sabie holster.
11 v 4 after TSP lynch. Worst case scenario soup gets five town players killed. 6 v 4. Then there are the unclaimed poetry event prizes. If both the event prizes are vig shots wolves have the numbers to bring it to 4 v 4 and win.Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:54 pmSounds like bullshit.Creature wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:52 pmNah, there's a significant risk wolves can endgame tonight if they received vig shots as prizes.Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:51 pmI've not run numbers but I'd be inclined to demand Sabie holster.
I haven't posted in two days and you've gone from essentially ignoring me to I'm an outed mafia and must always die for the greater good in that time so you had best have your explanation canned for me and "ISO me" isn't good enough. Explain it again.Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:47 pmISO me.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:36 pmCan you expand on your reasoning for any of these?Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:25 pmTomorrow, start with lynching Mac no matter what. Likely continue with lynching Wilg and or Sloonei, maybe Sabie but not sure. I am not sure about jpic.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:14 pmWhy? What's your reasoning?Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:12 pmLynch Mac.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:00 pm And everyone has gone for a rest now that we have TSP lined up, and I get that, but honestly @alexa @Belzy @Porscha @falcon45ca you guys are increasingly likely to be souped soon, so now may be your last chance to say things.
And what else? Who else do you scumread or townread? Give me a rundown as a legacy post in case you get killed?
You're worried about the game being mech ended tonight but want someone who's killed 2 townies to fire again?
It's what we have. If sabie is wolf vig, she is definitely using it whether we want it or not. If sabie is town vig, at least she has another shot to get it right.Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:57 pmYou're worried about the game being mech ended tonight but want someone who's killed 2 townies to fire again?
Your world. If we don't vig mafia the game might end because both poetry winners might have vig shots and mafia might soup exactly enough players to win with them.
So one hour to convince her to go elsewhere.Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:00 pmYour world. If we don't vig mafia the game might end because both poetry winners might have vig shots and mafia might soup exactly enough players to win with them.
My world. Sabie killing me is much more likely to = the game ending tonight than your speculative <rand reality.
Welp Sloonei just decided to slap me as wolf with you because I decided to treat him the opposite way you did.Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:03 pm I am so insanely obviously town today. Just look at the quality of the pushes against me. Absolute ass cancer of the upper mouth.
TBH, this kinda reads like a wolf who's frustrated that they're being SR when they feel they're playing a town game.Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:03 pm I am so insanely obviously town today. Just look at the quality of the pushes against me. Absolute ass cancer of the upper mouth.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:07 pmTBH, this kinda reads like a wolf who's frustrated that they're being SR when they feel they're playing a town game.Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:03 pm I am so insanely obviously town today. Just look at the quality of the pushes against me. Absolute ass cancer of the upper mouth.
Who's in your POE?
Ohhhhhh, I see, you just don't like it when others patronize you.Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:10 pmfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:07 pmTBH, this kinda reads like a wolf who's frustrated that they're being SR when they feel they're playing a town game.Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:03 pm I am so insanely obviously town today. Just look at the quality of the pushes against me. Absolute ass cancer of the upper mouth.
Who's in your POE?![]()
So I'm trying to make sense of everything this game which is probably an impossible task. I know we have a poe kind of but there is just something that kind of stood out to me. I know people are thinking alexa is town because of her role cop thing but In reading dizzys iso I found this post where he mentions oh well it wouldn't make sense for mafia to have a role like that with soup kills being a thing....but like what if they did choose thier roles? I would think they would want a role like that on their team. Role cop is different than alignment cop so like obviously mafia wouldn't need an alignment cop but a role cop? Very helpful. I know there was also a protect claim but that just stood out to me. Porscha and belzy's clear also comes from this assumption. I think mafia benefits from confusing us and getting us to fight amongst ourselves or lull into a false sense of security. It definitely has worked on me because I've had a hard time figuring out what the right thing to do is. I'm only throwing this out there in case I die in the night and don't get a chance to share my thoughts.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:18 pm I'm probably not going to catch up tonight, but I have a few things I want to say.
@Belzy I wasn't originally going to say anything, because I'm trying to be all cool lately. But I need to. You do realise that your read on me is entirely meme tier? I can not think of one single game where you don't scum read me first thing D1. I don't think you have mal intent here, but you seem to be operating with expectations of my play that are from 7 years ago. Please just consider this, and please spend time not only focusing on me.
Belzy
Sean
Guillo
Alexa
^These are the town reads I care the most about.
Sean cares about his own thoughts and suspicions and follows them up, and he's also doing classic town!Sean things in response to people either town reading him and accusing him.
Guillo has had many posts I found towny from him. Both Sean and Guillo are showing their paranoid town play styles imo. I think I'm pretty good at reading both of them actually.
Alexa is town for how she went about her role check on Nut. I also think that she wouldn't have a role check as mafia when that is how mafia makes the soup kill tbh, but that is kind of besides the point. Her posts are kind of "messy" in a way I find they are as town, while they are more deliberate as scum. I've also been pretty good at reading Alexa.
There's a bunch of players I town read to a lighter degree or even a pretty solid degree, probably too many, but the aforementioned are the ones I feel I have a better handle on reading.
In any case, I feel the game is in a pretty ok spot consensus-wise.
I have some concerns about Mac. Feels like he's not really landing any of his thoughts, and they seem to be a bit all over the place, which I find scummy for him.
I'm also suspicious of Scotty, feel like his posts are just awkward, trying to chime in but not really going anywhere.
Sabie is meh.
I think these are the things I've been thinking about the most.
mafia did have a limited rolecop though: it was dizzysabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:18 pmSo I'm trying to make sense of everything this game which is probably an impossible task. I know we have a poe kind of but there is just something that kind of stood out to me. I know people are thinking alexa is town because of her role cop thing but In reading dizzys iso I found this post where he mentions oh well it wouldn't make sense for mafia to have a role like that with soup kills being a thing....but like what if they did choose thier roles? I would think they would want a role like that on their team. Role cop is different than alignment cop so like obviously mafia wouldn't need an alignment cop but a role cop? Very helpful. I know there was also a protect claim but that just stood out to me. Porscha and belzy's clear also comes from this assumption. I think mafia benefits from confusing us and getting us to fight amongst ourselves or lull into a false sense of security. It definitely has worked on me because I've had a hard time figuring out what the right thing to do is. I'm only throwing this out there in case I die in the night and don't get a chance to share my thoughts.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:18 pm I'm probably not going to catch up tonight, but I have a few things I want to say.
@Belzy I wasn't originally going to say anything, because I'm trying to be all cool lately. But I need to. You do realise that your read on me is entirely meme tier? I can not think of one single game where you don't scum read me first thing D1. I don't think you have mal intent here, but you seem to be operating with expectations of my play that are from 7 years ago. Please just consider this, and please spend time not only focusing on me.
Belzy
Sean
Guillo
Alexa
^These are the town reads I care the most about.
Sean cares about his own thoughts and suspicions and follows them up, and he's also doing classic town!Sean things in response to people either town reading him and accusing him.
Guillo has had many posts I found towny from him. Both Sean and Guillo are showing their paranoid town play styles imo. I think I'm pretty good at reading both of them actually.
Alexa is town for how she went about her role check on Nut. I also think that she wouldn't have a role check as mafia when that is how mafia makes the soup kill tbh, but that is kind of besides the point. Her posts are kind of "messy" in a way I find they are as town, while they are more deliberate as scum. I've also been pretty good at reading Alexa.
There's a bunch of players I town read to a lighter degree or even a pretty solid degree, probably too many, but the aforementioned are the ones I feel I have a better handle on reading.
In any case, I feel the game is in a pretty ok spot consensus-wise.
I have some concerns about Mac. Feels like he's not really landing any of his thoughts, and they seem to be a bit all over the place, which I find scummy for him.
I'm also suspicious of Scotty, feel like his posts are just awkward, trying to chime in but not really going anywhere.
Sabie is meh.
I think these are the things I've been thinking about the most.
I think we need to be discussing who is most likely wolf among the POE incase someone has/receives a vig shot for tonight. I don't think holstering is ideal and we need to get the shots right tonight.
I don't think I've been hard pressed on your spot. Do you feel like I've been?Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:53 pm Wilgy, Sloonei, Creature are 3 wolves poe clamped and dining out on me imo.
tbh I think you have tried to solve the POE more than almost everybody else todaysabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:38 pm I do feel like mac is scum based on his reactions. The Thing with creature is like I want to town read him but he has been noncommittal with votes both eod1 and 2 despite being so active with reads throughout the game. He and tsp seem compatible. It doesn't feel like mac and creature would be teammates though here and I feel like macyo has been scummier. Paopan had a scummy eod 2 with the sudden weird push away from gullio to maybe look towny on purpose felt like tmi. Wilgy eod 1 was weird like he was trying to push to get himself chopped. I don't feel like he and pao would be teammates either. Pao seems scummier to me of those two.