The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:52 pm**

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:01 pm Yeah flavour wise Betsy has cancer and is given a treatment for it. Pills prescribed by the doctor, the catch is because the pills are a trial drug the doctor says she is either getting the real mccoy or a placebo and she won't know which is which

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:53 pm So every night I have the ability to send someone a pill (which are used to treat my illness). Each pill comes with an effect that it may grant the recipient 50% of the time. The recipient will only be of receiving a pill if the pill works and gives them the effect.

Night 1 I tried to grant JJJ a pill, and night 2 Hally.

My guess is Hally's pill never worked since she never mentioned it.

@Hally Here is my original claim and some flavour.

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:53 pm**

Odd got an extra role blocking ability, "if used and real".

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:56 pm**

@Justplayingitcool full claim including flavor

@fingersplints you too

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:57 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:50 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:49 pm jpic
kza
splints
bo

how many wolves in here?
why me?

why not?

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:59 pm**

i really doubt this is a game that will be solved by mass claiming

wolves have had ample time now to research flavor and create believable fake claims that seem like their real roles

they’re not just going to out themselves like gav did

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:59 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:57 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:50 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:49 pm jpic
kza
splints
bo

how many wolves in here?
why me?
why not?

cause I'm town.

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:00 pm**

I kinda believe BK

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:01 pm**

i believe he has the role he claims, or at least part of it

he could still be a wolf

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:02 pm**

Odd confirmed my mechanics.

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:02 pm**

the game is not going to be so easily mech solvable imo to where wolves just have obviously bad roles

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:03 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:02 pm the game is not going to be so easily mech solvable imo to where wolves just have obviously bad roles

Idk my claim is super boring compared to this maybe I'm a wolf

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:19 pm**

i don’t mean bad like boring, i mean bad like wolfy

i’m saying that in these kind of games there’s always at least one wolf that seems like they have clearing mech

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:27 pm**

im not clearing anyone for good flavor/townie seeming roles at this point. I'm asking for a massclaim so there's no more ambiguity and we can coordinate night actions.

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:35 pm**

okay

if you need me i’ll be over here watching you mow down the poe. i really hope the game is as easy as that

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:51 pm**

Pill is a roleblock

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:52 pm**

Bo is locktown

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:52 pm**

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:25 pm If someone were to claim they were a 10-shot bulletproof cop, rolecop, tracker, watcher, mason, innocent child, vig, and doctor rolled into one, I would have no logical recourse other than to believe it outright.

did you rolecop me?

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:12 am**

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:52 pm Bo is locktown

not so fast, he could be scum with that power

I guess the scum roles all have scum flavors and this pill is very strongly tied to a certain character but eh

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:04 am**

Morning

I'm a tracker-variant of some sort. When I track, I also learn what action was done as well.

N1: I tracked BK to JJJ. It didn't mention anything about pills, just that he is an item-giver.
N2: I tracked Nook to Dom. Nothing more needs to be said there.
N4: I tracked KZA to SPF. Apparently, the ability used here is to duplicate failed actions on their target until success.

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:24 am**

well I'm hammered but yes I targeted SPF last night

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:34 am**

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:24 am well I'm hammered but yes I targeted SPF last night

why?

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:36 am**

why would you not target nook the claimed vig? or michelle the claimed cop? spf didn’t say what her role was last night

am i missing something?

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:47 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:36 am why would you not target nook the claimed vig? or michelle the claimed cop? spf didn’t say what her role was last night

am i missing something?

My role repeats failed actions. If I target towncore players I run the risk of repeating a negative or killing action on them.

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:50 am**

wait what?

do you repeat failed actions your targets do or ones done on them?

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:51 am**

who else have you targeted? why did you pick spf?

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:53 am**

i am beginning to reach the unfortunate conclusion that mechanics, are in fact, bad

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:55 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:51 am who else have you targeted? why did you pick spf?

I repeat actions that failed on my target. I targeted Al Sama, Al Sama, No Target N4, then SPF. I thought Al Sama was the obvious vig shot and targeted him twice in case he was bulletproof. I never really considered Dom because I personally leave AFK slots alone, unfortunately that slot was the real bulletproof scum. I targeted SPF kind of randomly within the people I wasn't clearing, I didn't know where Nanook was shooting or where Michelle was investigating so I just picked someone.

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:58 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:40 pm Anyways @Michelle give us your check early today, no beating around the bush

Morning

Looks like Odd is either godfather or villager.
Hoping for the second

Thanks for the save @staypositivefriend

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:02 am**

So because mafia don't have any reason to keep me alive SPF is out of my Poe

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:07 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:53 am i am beginning to reach the unfortunate conclusion that mechanics, are in fact, bad

surprisedpikachu

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:09 am**

w h y is michelle still alive and able to get off peeks

is there no rb? is there no redirect? no strongman?

what. is. going. on.

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:11 am**

clearly the remaining woke are not worried about michelle’s checks or else she would have been strongmaned or blocked. and if they’re not worried about her checks it means they know the checks won’t be correct because at least one of them has investigative immunity and is hoping to endgame off michelle green peeking them

i don’t know how else to explain why she’s still alive

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:15 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:09 am w h y is michelle still alive and able to get off peeks

is there no rb? is there no redirect? no strongman?

what. is. going. on.

There must be a rb in the game as I think LC claimed he failed a few times

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:16 am**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:15 am
Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:09 am w h y is michelle still alive and able to get off peeks

is there no rb? is there no redirect? no strongman?

what. is. going. on.
There must be a rb in the game as I think LC claimed he failed a few times

how is there a roleblocker but they aren’t blocking michelle?

that makes no sense unless she’s a wolf or they know her peeks won’t be correct

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:26 am**

I'm fairly sure I've deduced what's going on here. It seems confusing, since all the night actions don't make sense, but if you think about it the answer is obvious. The truth is that

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:32 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:26 am I'm fairly sure I've deduced what's going on here. It seems confusing, since all the night actions don't make sense, but if you think about it the answer is obvious. The truth is that

Spoiler: show
mountainous GOAT

i’m disappointed the spoiler didn’t say “i’m gay”

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:34 am**

but seriously, can we think about this?

we KNOW from lc that there’s a roleblocker. why didn’t they block michelle after she claimed?! why block lc?! are they a villager?

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:34 am**

What if Alison knowing LCs ability and target and controling Odd's action made things happen to 'clear' herself?
Mafia knows by the BTSC all the actions and how they work, and targeted Alison with the kill, but they knew Odd will swap her with LC.
It doesn't sit right with me that Alison who won GoC, a heavy mechanic game is complaining now about disliking mechanics.
She is a very competent mechanichal player, so why downgrade herself like this?
I think Alison is mafia.

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:39 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:09 am w h y is michelle still alive and able to get off peeks

is there no rb? is there no redirect? no strongman?

what. is. going. on.

Dear Hally,

SPF claimed a save on me. Wolves tried to kill me because I looked not defendable and superkilled LC who they understood have a strong track /watch power.
If you are villager stop writing derailing ideas. If you are wolf, keep doing what you did all game.

Yours trully,

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:39 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:34 am What if Alison knowing LCs ability and target and controling Odd's action made things happen to 'clear' herself?
Mafia knows by the BTSC all the actions and how they work, and targeted Alison with the kill, but they knew Odd will swap her with LC.
It doesn't sit right with me that Alison who won GoC, a heavy mechanic game is complaining now about disliking mechanics.
She is a very competent mechanichal player, so why downgrade herself like this?
I think Alison is mafia.

do you remember how I won GOC

it wasn't by solving its mechanics

it was by outing all my mechanics post 1 and then going afk

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:40 am**

Tbh Hally's frustration of me being alive is telling a story

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:40 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:39 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:34 am What if Alison knowing LCs ability and target and controling Odd's action made things happen to 'clear' herself?
Mafia knows by the BTSC all the actions and how they work, and targeted Alison with the kill, but they knew Odd will swap her with LC.
It doesn't sit right with me that Alison who won GoC, a heavy mechanic game is complaining now about disliking mechanics.
She is a very competent mechanichal player, so why downgrade herself like this?
I think Alison is mafia.
do you remember how I won GOC

it wasn't by solving its mechanics

it was by outing all my mechanics post 1 and then going afk

You won Goc. End of story.

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:41 am**

I never saw you complaining about mechanics

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:41 am**

also odd can refuse my orders. if I am mafia and submitted a shot on myself and odd refuses my order, I would nightkill myself; this seems like a pointless and foolish risk

also I've complained repeatedly about mechanics heavy games out of game

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:41 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:41 am I never saw you complaining about mechanics

multiple other players here can testify that I frequently say that I hate mechanic heavy games and think mountainous is the best because it doesn't introduce twisty situations like this

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:42 am**

Who is the other tracker claim is mafia btw, i bet my avatar on it

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:42 am**

Yes Alison but you don't solve the game and keep killing villagers

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:43 am**

So you are mafia by Poe

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:43 am**

And logic

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:45 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:42 am Yes Alison but you don't solve the game and keep killing villagers

I created a POE that boxed gavial/dom and marmot - both flipped scum - and al sama who is likely scum. I'm following that POE because i believe it's the best way to solve the game, and it's produced enough pelts and that I'm comfortable it's not leading town down the wrong path. I think it's ridiculous to say that I've been going around killing villas

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