Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:39 pm
Also fwiw all of these nicknames are better than my former hcrealms malapropism nickname
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Probably a wifom mix. Everyone would assume Jimmy would get picked so why pick him? Probably gwilikers6, RDW, you and Wilgy. You mostly so you weren't out here analysing things legitimately. RDW and gwilly for ol times sake. Wilgy because I love being mafia with him.
Even a gun-to-head read has to have inspiration from something. It might not be a specific post. It might be a tone. It might be post count ranks. It might be anything.dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:37 pmFunny, that's exactly what GTH reads are though.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:36 pmHow can a player be suspicious without an actual ping? Are their avatars scarier than usual?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:35 pm Untrue. He was the only ping I saw by post during the initial read through. The rest are sus via gth.
So you have never done a gth and called someone scum before ever feeling it until gth?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:36 pmHow can a player be suspicious without an actual ping? Are their avatars scarier than usual?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:35 pm Untrue. He was the only ping I saw by post during the initial read through. The rest are sus via gth.
I might be willing to call colonialbob cinnabon
I have never called someone scum GTH for no reason. I might not have had the inspiration until the exercise, but I'd still be able to qualify the read in some distinct manner. Even if it isn't about the player being read, there'd be a contextual inspiration (process of elimination, treatment from someone else, etc).MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:41 pmSo you have never done a gth and called someone scum before ever feeling it until gth?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:36 pmHow can a player be suspicious without an actual ping? Are their avatars scarier than usual?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:35 pm Untrue. He was the only ping I saw by post during the initial read through. The rest are sus via gth.
I might be willing to call colonialbob cinnabon
there's nothing in the language Jack used to imply that the randomly determined nationality would or wouldn't stick, just that the time it would be determined would be the time it becomes relevant, which would be either targeting by a nationality related role, or story related things. though the fact that there might be story relevance to nationality might imply permanence?nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:29 pm I guess the rules say "assigned" which sort of implies it's permanent, which makes more sense, but this post by Kyle made it sound like it might be the other way I suggested:
*snip*
But maybe this is saying it's not determined *until* he's checked, and then it stays permanent?Or... that Kyle doesn't get to know what he shows up as?
thanks. This isn't part of Epi's exercise, btw. I asked MacDougall as part of dunya's ego stroking exercise whereby he names me and omits JJJ the MagnificentMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:39 pmProbably a wifom mix. Everyone would assume Jimmy would get picked so why pick him? Probably gwilikers6, RDW, you and Wilgy. You mostly so you weren't out here analysing things legitimately. RDW and gwilly for ol times sake. Wilgy because I love being mafia with him.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:39 pmEven a gun-to-head read has to have inspiration from something. It might not be a specific post. It might be a tone. It might be post count ranks. It might be anything.dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:37 pmFunny, that's exactly what GTH reads are though.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:36 pmHow can a player be suspicious without an actual ping? Are their avatars scarier than usual?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:35 pm Untrue. He was the only ping I saw by post during the initial read through. The rest are sus via gth.
What it definitely is not is nothing.
I have, on neutral reads mostly, but you gave gth reads of civ or sus, and named the rest neutral so that's where the confusion stems from. You picked a select few. Why did you pick those you picked specifically?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:41 pmSo you have never done a gth and called someone scum before ever feeling it until gth?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:36 pmHow can a player be suspicious without an actual ping? Are their avatars scarier than usual?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:35 pm Untrue. He was the only ping I saw by post during the initial read through. The rest are sus via gth.
I might be willing to call colonialbob cinnabon
k if colonialbob is a coconut bonbon then you're Macadamia cause you're being a real tough nut to crackMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:41 pmSo you have never done a gth and called someone scum before ever feeling it until gth?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:36 pmHow can a player be suspicious without an actual ping? Are their avatars scarier than usual?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:35 pm Untrue. He was the only ping I saw by post during the initial read through. The rest are sus via gth.
I might be willing to call colonialbob cinnabon
Let me set the scene for you.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:38 pmBut nobody had a gun to his head? He just posted that list of names out of thin air? There had to have been some reasoning behind those readsdunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:37 pmFunny, that's exactly what GTH reads are though.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:36 pmHow can a player be suspicious without an actual ping? Are their avatars scarier than usual?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:35 pm Untrue. He was the only ping I saw by post during the initial read through. The rest are sus via gth.
I haven't really felt bad about anyone yet and your more recent posts are fairly sincere sounding.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:42 pm And also, Macky D, I've made more posts since then, as have others. Am I still your only ping?
What I am trying to discern is why those other players have earned a scum GTH read -- and even if Mac is unsure it should be a priority of his to figure that out -- and how that can be compared/contrasted with his single ping on colonialbob. That ping is what I think looks fake, conveniently manufactured for a blatant omgus true to Mac form.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:44 pmJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:39 pmEven a gun-to-head read has to have inspiration from something. It might not be a specific post. It might be a tone. It might be post count ranks. It might be anything.dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:37 pmFunny, that's exactly what GTH reads are though.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:36 pmHow can a player be suspicious without an actual ping? Are their avatars scarier than usual?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:35 pm Untrue. He was the only ping I saw by post during the initial read through. The rest are sus via gth.
What it definitely is not is nothing.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:47 pmI haven't really felt bad about anyone yet and your more recent posts are fairly sincere sounding.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:42 pm And also, Macky D, I've made more posts since then, as have others. Am I still your only ping?
Did I say I have no reason? I haven't had the chance to qualify any of those pings yet. I have been met with a group of players firing a salvo of accusations at me. I am sure with the freedom to extrapolate I will be able to explain them. But I would be able to regardless of my alignment tbh.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:42 pmI have never called someone scum GTH for no reason. I might not have had the inspiration until the exercise, but I'd still be able to qualify the read in some distinct manner. Even if it isn't about the player being read, there'd be a contextual inspiration (process of elimination, treatment from someone else, etc).MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:41 pmSo you have never done a gth and called someone scum before ever feeling it until gth?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:36 pmHow can a player be suspicious without an actual ping? Are their avatars scarier than usual?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:35 pm Untrue. He was the only ping I saw by post during the initial read through. The rest are sus via gth.
I might be willing to call colonialbob cinnabon
Permanently.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:11 pm god this game is so confusing, wtf is going on with the nationality stuff/Rico's army?![]()
huh...Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:04 pmi live in a mysterious forest as a hermit, i asked jack if i just don't have a homeland at all and he told me that my homeland was nonspecified, and that it would be determined randomly if i am ever targeted by a nationality-related role. I'd have to assume others are like that as well.
Jackofhearts2005 for players without specified nationality, is it randomized permanently, or is it randomized every time it is relevant/targeted?
I'm honored![]()
For me it would be something like
JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall
dunya
and probably one of the new/rym players I don't know/have any connection to
but like Jay said I'd probably think about it more and try not to pick someone obvious... like him lol.
Epignosis what do you hope to get out of this exercise? are you looking at the most common picks? I feel like it's just so rife with WIFOM I don't know where to begin
Maybe I am. I can't even figure out what my alignment is. Also my vote doesn't actually count.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:48 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:47 pmI haven't really felt bad about anyone yet and your more recent posts are fairly sincere sounding.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:42 pm And also, Macky D, I've made more posts since then, as have others. Am I still your only ping?yeah this is not the mac I know. u bad
Then I hereby grant you the freedom to extrapolate.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:49 pm Did I say I have no reason? I haven't had the chance to qualify any of those pings yet. I have been met with a group of players firing a salvo of accusations at me. I am sure with the freedom to extrapolate I will be able to explain them. But I would be able to regardless of my alignment tbh.
So... do that.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:49 pmDid I say I have no reason? I haven't had the chance to qualify any of those pings yet. I have been met with a group of players firing a salvo of accusations at me. I am sure with the freedom to extrapolate I will be able to explain them. But I would be able to regardless of my alignment tbh.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:42 pmI have never called someone scum GTH for no reason. I might not have had the inspiration until the exercise, but I'd still be able to qualify the read in some distinct manner. Even if it isn't about the player being read, there'd be a contextual inspiration (process of elimination, treatment from someone else, etc).MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:41 pmSo you have never done a gth and called someone scum before ever feeling it until gth?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:36 pmHow can a player be suspicious without an actual ping? Are their avatars scarier than usual?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:35 pm Untrue. He was the only ping I saw by post during the initial read through. The rest are sus via gth.
I might be willing to call colonialbob cinnabon
I had the same problemMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:50 pmMaybe I am. I can't even figure out what my alignment is. Also my vote doesn't actually count.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:48 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:47 pmI haven't really felt bad about anyone yet and your more recent posts are fairly sincere sounding.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:42 pm And also, Macky D, I've made more posts since then, as have others. Am I still your only ping?yeah this is not the mac I know. u bad
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:29 am
Afterthought rules:
Town wins by eliminating the mafia.
Mafia wins when the town cannot eliminate the mafia.
There are no independents.
If I did not send you a message stating you are mafia, you are town.
I understand but I think that you’re going about it in a way that seems very manufactured.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:47 pmWhat I am trying to discern is why those other players have earned a scum GTH read -- and even if Mac is unsure it should be a priority of his to figure that out -- and how that can be compared/contrasted with his single ping on colonialbob. That ping is what I think looks fake, conveniently manufactured for a blatant omgus true to Mac form.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:44 pmJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:39 pmEven a gun-to-head read has to have inspiration from something. It might not be a specific post. It might be a tone. It might be post count ranks. It might be anything.dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:37 pmFunny, that's exactly what GTH reads are though.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:36 pmHow can a player be suspicious without an actual ping? Are their avatars scarier than usual?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:35 pm Untrue. He was the only ping I saw by post during the initial read through. The rest are sus via gth.
What it definitely is not is nothing.
It's a comma issue.dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:13 pmspeaking of Badguyia, Jackofhearts2005 can you please confirm what the OP means when you said players with no specific nation in their backstory are from Badguyia. Is that correct or is there a missing comma there?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:06 pmWell I’m from Badguyia so WIFOM that
linki give a guy some time, the day just started
Sweet. So I am heaps town then. Ok you guys go find the bad guys and leave me to my fishing. Kthx.dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:51 pmI had the same problemMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:50 pmMaybe I am. I can't even figure out what my alignment is. Also my vote doesn't actually count.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:48 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:47 pmI haven't really felt bad about anyone yet and your more recent posts are fairly sincere sounding.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:42 pm And also, Macky D, I've made more posts since then, as have others. Am I still your only ping?yeah this is not the mac I know. u bad
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Jack added rules after I asked him:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:29 am
Afterthought rules:
Town wins by eliminating the mafia.
Mafia wins when the town cannot eliminate the mafia.
There are no independents.
If I did not send you a message stating you are mafia, you are town.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:55 pmSweet. So I am heaps town then. Ok you guys go find the bad guys and leave me to my fishing. Kthx.dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:51 pmI had the same problemMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:50 pmMaybe I am. I can't even figure out what my alignment is. Also my vote doesn't actually count.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:48 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:47 pmI haven't really felt bad about anyone yet and your more recent posts are fairly sincere sounding.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:42 pm And also, Macky D, I've made more posts since then, as have others. Am I still your only ping?yeah this is not the mac I know. u bad
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Jack added rules after I asked him:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:29 am
Afterthought rules:
Town wins by eliminating the mafia.
Mafia wins when the town cannot eliminate the mafia.
There are no independents.
If I did not send you a message stating you are mafia, you are town.
Okay, let's lynch him.
I would do that if I was mafia anyway so why would that change how anyone feels about me? I am better at playing scum than town.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:04 pm *shrug* sorry you're on vacation and feel like you're getting dogpiled, but we're asking you to contribute. You're tunneling on the person who called you scummy, had a weird GTH excuse for me being your only ping, and haven't followed up on any of those.
Seriously, just updating your reads on the other suspects you had would be helpful.
he specifically told you not to do that. bad Jay
Considering your current suspicion level, this post looks like a deflect.
Because it's harder to manufacture a fake case than a real case? Because if you're actually town you should *want* to get your suspicions out there for others to play with?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:07 pmI would do that if I was mafia anyway so why would that change how anyone feels about me? I am better at playing scum than town.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:04 pm *shrug* sorry you're on vacation and feel like you're getting dogpiled, but we're asking you to contribute. You're tunneling on the person who called you scummy, had a weird GTH excuse for me being your only ping, and haven't followed up on any of those.
Seriously, just updating your reads on the other suspects you had would be helpful.
I also haven't tunneled you. That's rich. Hahahaha. Wow. Much irony.
I do want to. I really do. I just don't have the capacity to do it right now. I have to start packing and cleaning up the house. We have 105 minutes to vacate and I've wasted enough time defending myself.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:11 pmBecause it's harder to manufacture a fake case than a real case? Because if you're actually town you should *want* to get your suspicions out there for others to play with?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:07 pmI would do that if I was mafia anyway so why would that change how anyone feels about me? I am better at playing scum than town.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:04 pm *shrug* sorry you're on vacation and feel like you're getting dogpiled, but we're asking you to contribute. You're tunneling on the person who called you scummy, had a weird GTH excuse for me being your only ping, and haven't followed up on any of those.
Seriously, just updating your reads on the other suspects you had would be helpful.
I also haven't tunneled you. That's rich. Hahahaha. Wow. Much irony.
I assume you're saying I'm the one who's tunneled you. But I've got other scumreads and, in fact, my vote isn't even on you.
when are you back home? Day is 48 hours long, do you think you'll have time between now and then to defend those GTH reads you made?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:15 pmI do want to. I really do. I just don't have the capacity to do it right now. I have to start packing and cleaning up the house. We have 105 minutes to vacate and I've wasted enough time defending myself.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:11 pmBecause it's harder to manufacture a fake case than a real case? Because if you're actually town you should *want* to get your suspicions out there for others to play with?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:07 pmI would do that if I was mafia anyway so why would that change how anyone feels about me? I am better at playing scum than town.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:04 pm *shrug* sorry you're on vacation and feel like you're getting dogpiled, but we're asking you to contribute. You're tunneling on the person who called you scummy, had a weird GTH excuse for me being your only ping, and haven't followed up on any of those.
Seriously, just updating your reads on the other suspects you had would be helpful.
I also haven't tunneled you. That's rich. Hahahaha. Wow. Much irony.
I assume you're saying I'm the one who's tunneled you. But I've got other scumreads and, in fact, my vote isn't even on you.
I am not scum. Nobody would pick me as scum because I come under way too much scrutiny anyway. Go find other lynch candidates and lynch me if nothing good comes out of it.
I will be home in about 11 hours from now. So yes. Though I really don't understand the fixation on forcing me to. I would do a better job creating a case on them from thin air as mafia so the more compelling I am the more likely I am to get civ read is annoying logic. I know this sounds weird but I am sure I have exhibited many civ tells during this process but people are tunnelblind.dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:16 pmwhen are you back home? Day is 48 hours long, do you think you'll have time between now and then to defend those GTH reads you made?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:15 pmI do want to. I really do. I just don't have the capacity to do it right now. I have to start packing and cleaning up the house. We have 105 minutes to vacate and I've wasted enough time defending myself.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:11 pmBecause it's harder to manufacture a fake case than a real case? Because if you're actually town you should *want* to get your suspicions out there for others to play with?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:07 pmI would do that if I was mafia anyway so why would that change how anyone feels about me? I am better at playing scum than town.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:04 pm *shrug* sorry you're on vacation and feel like you're getting dogpiled, but we're asking you to contribute. You're tunneling on the person who called you scummy, had a weird GTH excuse for me being your only ping, and haven't followed up on any of those.
Seriously, just updating your reads on the other suspects you had would be helpful.
I also haven't tunneled you. That's rich. Hahahaha. Wow. Much irony.
I assume you're saying I'm the one who's tunneled you. But I've got other scumreads and, in fact, my vote isn't even on you.
I am not scum. Nobody would pick me as scum because I come under way too much scrutiny anyway. Go find other lynch candidates and lynch me if nothing good comes out of it.
Pretty much nothing. It suits his early play in both MK and Fiddler (civilian and mafia respectively), so we'll see how it develops. He's a suspect so long as there is no reason to give him civilian credit.
Each player had a 4% chance of being named the Mafia Don. Why discuss the possibility of one of those players being chosen when it's equally likely for every other player?
Mac already answered that. What do you think of his answer?Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:25 pmEach player had a 4% chance of being named the Mafia Don. Why discuss the possibility of one of those players being chosen when it's equally likely for every other player?
Why even play mafia at all?Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:25 pmEach player had a 4% chance of being named the Mafia Don. Why discuss the possibility of one of those players being chosen when it's equally likely for every other player?