The Syndicate

Oh hell I forgot this started. Someone catch me up please.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:14 am Oh hell I forgot this started. Someone catch me up please.

We killed the main character and skipped day 2. We’re down two, maybe three townies. It’s night two

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:49 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:14 am Oh hell I forgot this started. Someone catch me up please.

We killed the main character and skipped day 2. We’re down two, maybe three townies. It’s night two

also people are freaking out over random orange letters in host posts but he's actually just spelling g-man to mess with us

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:52 pm Wb mountain man. Hit us with dem fresh insights.

Turnip Head has had two different avatars in the last 12 hours and must go.

I feel like something's missing here... Like a whole day phase.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:32 pm This is an even worse result than the Day 1 result.

You are so evil and villainous and it offends me that you survived day one.

He survived Day 2 too.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:53 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:49 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:14 am Oh hell I forgot this started. Someone catch me up please.

We killed the main character and skipped day 2. We’re down two, maybe three townies. It’s night two

also people are freaking out over random orange letters in host posts but he's actually just spelling g-man to mess with us

That's actually pretty brilliant.

Well, that's convenient. Who wants to go through all the trouble of voting?

If there's a vigilante type Civ role, then maybe we can have a faux-lynch where we discuss who is the best target?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:20 am Well, that's convenient. Who wants to go through all the trouble of voting?

If there's a vigilante type Civ role, then maybe we can have a faux-lynch where we discuss who is the best target?

Who is the best target?

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:41 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:20 am Well, that's convenient. Who wants to go through all the trouble of voting?

If there's a vigilante type Civ role, then maybe we can have a faux-lynch where we discuss who is the best target?

Who is the best target?

obviously no one, because we're all friends here! why would they want to kill another friend?

The vigilante should trust in friendship and teamwork, and everything will work out

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:39 am

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:41 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:20 am Well, that's convenient. Who wants to go through all the trouble of voting?

If there's a vigilante type Civ role, then maybe we can have a faux-lynch where we discuss who is the best target?

Who is the best target?

obviously no one, because we're all friends here! why would they want to kill another friend?

The vigilante should trust in friendship and teamwork, and everything will work out

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:32 pm This is an even worse result than the Day 1 result.

You are so evil and villainous and it offends me that you survived day one.

...did you even vote for Sloonei on day 1?

Yes. I also got busy when he was on 5 votes and came back to find that I was the only voter left. What game have you been playing mate?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:32 pm This is an even worse result than the Day 1 result.

You are so evil and villainous and it offends me that you survived day one.

Please move past this.

You are asking me to play the game in ignorance of all my intuition and instincts?

Just kill me. Dr Manhattan taking out Rorschach style.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:39 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:53 pm

Simon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:38 am Jack, why did you vote coliniscool?

He appeared to be my most lynchable suspect at the time but I didn’t realize people were about to move/had just moved to Eloh. The perils of doing the dishes during EOD.

Too convenient.

Come again?

I can’t believe we all managed to sleep through an entire day like that!

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:56 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:52 pm Wb mountain man. Hit us with dem fresh insights.

Turnip Head has had two different avatars in the last 12 hours and must go.

As a member of the Frequent Avatar Change Korp, I object.

To help maybe shed some light on the colors, in several of the Mega Man games, you collected letters to spell out things. Most notably, you would spell out Beat to gain him as a companion, but the letters here seem to indicate the spelling of "Mega Man V" in the game of the same name. Someone might have a role where they need to collect/reveal all of the letters we're seeing as orange, given that there's been two of them so far.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:32 pm This is an even worse result than the Day 1 result.

You are so evil and villainous and it offends me that you survived day one.

Please move past this.

This reminds me of when Mac was all like "SPEEDCHUCK IS SCUM" for the entirety of a game. He was right, but I got him to "move past it" by showing him my love and support. This after getting him killed in the first phases and having him rezzed.

Anyway my point is that Mac has good instincts.

[mention]K-Ness[/mention]

Please give us some thoughts on players. Who do you suspect? Why?

If you’re feeling overwhelmed, forget catching up. Try ISOing a couple players or go back to a page or two before end of day and read until the lynch result is posted.

It is better to take a relevant selection and analyze/weigh in than to be forever catching up.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:12 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:32 pm This is an even worse result than the Day 1 result.

You are so evil and villainous and it offends me that you survived day one.

Please move past this.

This reminds me of when Mac was all like "SPEEDCHUCK IS SCUM" for the entirety of a game. He was right, but I got him to "move past it" by showing him my love and support. This after getting him killed in the first phases and having him rezzed.

Anyway my point is that Mac has good instincts.

Felt the same about Blue vs Red. Mac pegged me as scum from the get go. Yet nobody really followed him.

Also reminds me of AssClass Mac except he was bad and his lynch targets were town.

So how do you evaluate Mac beyond lynching his suspects and assuming he’s bad if they are town?

Btw, who is bad?

Point being if I suspect Sloonei, I will say why and you can evaluate my townieness based on if my reasoning sounds legit.

Mac, regardless of alignment, appears to bulldog latch himself onto players with little explanation. He’s often right so that’s fine if Mac is town but I don’t know how to evaluate Mac.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:56 am

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:39 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:53 pm

Simon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:38 am Jack, why did you vote coliniscool?

He appeared to be my most lynchable suspect at the time but I didn’t realize people were about to move/had just moved to Eloh. The perils of doing the dishes during EOD.

Too convenient.

Come again?

he elaborated in the next post, why have you ignored that?

I think he has a point, why did you think colin was the most lynchable at the time

Let’s just sort some shit.

Bullzeye - Bad vibes but he appears to be trying the correct townie amount to make things happen if that makes sense. I suspect this is a stylistic clash but it’s hard to tell having not played with him before. Slight townlean. Merits ISO.

ColinIsCool - Destroyed Night 1. 50% chance killed by the mafia. Suspected Sloonei in a way that gained him some flack so possible vig hit as well. (Dare I consider a sker on the Syndicate?) Slight scumlean but probably consensus town.

DFaraday - Null. Come on, DF.

Dom - Null. Come on, Dom.

DrWilgy - Null. Come on, Doc.

Infected_alien8_ - Bad vibes. Kinda ignored them cause he’s new to me. Scumlean. Merits ISO.

JaggedJimmyJay - Destroyed Night 1. 50% chance of being the mafia hit. Acting different from normal so there’s a chance he was a vig hit. Few players flat out said Jay was bad, though. Townread.

K-Ness - Need more. Slight townlean.

Kylemii - Null. Come on, Kyle.

Long Con - Feels right. I sense town effort, not scum agenda. Townread.

Lunalee - Her willingness to defend her hubby who is statistically unlikely to be her scum partner feels town motivated but I still need more from her. Townlean.

MacDougall - Initially felt very town for mindmeld and aggression but I’m wavering a bit. Townlean.

Marmot - Null. Come on, Marmot.

novaselinenever - Townlean. Votes poured in on him too quickly and his reaction seemed genuine.

nutella - Townlean. Very loose. A bit swingy but that’s Nutella sometimes.

Quin - Townread. It’s a secret why.

Simon - Null. Come on, Simon. Likely not w/w with Sloonei.

Sloonei - I’ve gone back and forth. Overall, there’s not much in the way of red flags but I consider myself pretty bad at reading Sloonei. I think I may have identified a scumSloonei tendency but I’m keeping it in my back pocket. Slight townlean.

speedchuck - Null. Hasn’t really said much besides naysaying some shit. Come on, Speed.

Soneji - Null. Come on, Soneji.

sprityo - Townlean. It’s a secret from everyone.

Turnip Head - Scumlean. I don’t see the town/neutral TH I’m used to seeing. For someone so excited about this game, he hasn’t been very present.

White - Null. Has this slot posted?



So I’d probably shoot an inactive if it were up to me.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:23 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:56 am

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:39 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:53 pm

Simon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:38 am Jack, why did you vote coliniscool?

He appeared to be my most lynchable suspect at the time but I didn’t realize people were about to move/had just moved to Eloh. The perils of doing the dishes during EOD.

Too convenient.

Come again?

he elaborated in the next post, why have you ignored that?

Not about the convenience. What is convenient about (and this is the accusation) scum moving from Eloh onto Colin near EOD?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:20 am So how do you evaluate Mac beyond lynching his suspects and assuming he’s bad if they are town?

Btw, who is bad?

There is another terrible way to read Mac. If Mac is town, he'll get himself nightkilled.
Man I hate that method of reading people.

I didn't play AssClass. Mac is a good player. I don't know what his scumtells are. I don't mind playing the odds and valuing his instincts, that is, until we don't.
On a side note, he thought Eloh was scum.

I'll get back to you on who is bad in a bit. linki: I know, I'll get on it.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:24 am I think he has a point, why did you think colin was the most lynchable at the time

Cause I was doing dishes and was behind. Several players said they didn’t want to lynch Eloh prior to the resurgence of the Eloh train. Quin was another option but I expressed my townread and then mixed feelings about Quin and decided to not vote for him. I feel even better about Quin now and stand by my decision to not vote for him. I also gave my reasons for not voting for Nova and protested that lynch.

Taking Eloh (unviable), Quin (don’t want to lynch), Nova (don’t want to lynch) off the board and believing Sloonei and Simon’s votes were both still on Colin, my vote would put Colin at 3, the highest vote total.

[mention]Kylemii[/mention] What is a scum game of yours?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:39 am

Spoiler: show

Let’s just sort some shit.

Bullzeye - Bad vibes but he appears to be trying the correct townie amount to make things happen if that makes sense. I suspect this is a stylistic clash but it’s hard to tell having not played with him before. Slight townlean. Merits ISO.

ColinIsCool - Destroyed Night 1. 50% chance killed by the mafia. Suspected Sloonei in a way that gained him some flack so possible vig hit as well. (Dare I consider a sker on the Syndicate?) Slight scumlean but probably consensus town.

DFaraday - Null. Come on, DF.

Dom - Null. Come on, Dom.

DrWilgy - Null. Come on, Doc.

Infected_alien8_ - Bad vibes. Kinda ignored them cause he’s new to me. Scumlean. Merits ISO.

JaggedJimmyJay - Destroyed Night 1. 50% chance of being the mafia hit. Acting different from normal so there’s a chance he was a vig hit. Few players flat out said Jay was bad, though. Townread.

K-Ness - Need more. Slight townlean.

Kylemii - Null. Come on, Kyle.

Long Con - Feels right. I sense town effort, not scum agenda. Townread.

Lunalee - Her willingness to defend her hubby who is statistically unlikely to be her scum partner feels town motivated but I still need more from her. Townlean.

MacDougall - Initially felt very town for mindmeld and aggression but I’m wavering a bit. Townlean.

Marmot - Null. Come on, Marmot.

novaselinenever - Townlean. Votes poured in on him too quickly and his reaction seemed genuine.

nutella - Townlean. Very loose. A bit swingy but that’s Nutella sometimes.

Quin - Townread. It’s a secret why.

Simon - Null. Come on, Simon. Likely not w/w with Sloonei.

Sloonei - I’ve gone back and forth. Overall, there’s not much in the way of red flags but I consider myself pretty bad at reading Sloonei. I think I may have identified a scumSloonei tendency but I’m keeping it in my back pocket. Slight townlean.

speedchuck - Null. Hasn’t really said much besides naysaying some shit. Come on, Speed.

Soneji - Null. Come on, Soneji.

sprityo - Townlean. It’s a secret from everyone.

Turnip Head - Scumlean. I don’t see the town/neutral TH I’m used to seeing. For someone so excited about this game, he hasn’t been very present.

White - Null. Has this slot posted?



So I’d probably shoot an inactive if it were up to me.

Nice analysis Jack. I would bet there's at least one mafia among the low/lazy-posters. We should look into DFaraday, Dom, Dr. Wilgy, Alien, K-Ness, Kylemii, Marmot, Simon, Speedchuck, Soneji, and sprityo.

(ignoring White for now. they aren't even playing)

That is sort of a long list, but I think it's a good place to start. I'll add my own analyses later.

Jack blaming everyone else for all his lazy null reads. /s

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:05 am Jack blaming everyone else for all his lazy null reads. /s

If I was the vig, I might shoot Speedchuck for cheekiness.

I’d look into this players but I can’t iso on mobile.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:54 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:32 pm This is an even worse result than the Day 1 result.

You are so evil and villainous and it offends me that you survived day one.

Please move past this.

You are asking me to play the game in ignorance of all my intuition and instincts?

Just kill me. Dr Manhattan taking out Rorschach style.

I think he's just asking you to ignore him, not your own intuition.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:59 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:56 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:52 pm Wb mountain man. Hit us with dem fresh insights.

Turnip Head has had two different avatars in the last 12 hours and must go.

As a member of the Frequent Avatar Change Korp, I object.

As someone who hasn't bothered to change their avatar in like 3 years, you all astound me.

These ISOs are crap

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:55 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:39 am

Spoiler: show

Let’s just sort some shit.

Bullzeye - Bad vibes but he appears to be trying the correct townie amount to make things happen if that makes sense. I suspect this is a stylistic clash but it’s hard to tell having not played with him before. Slight townlean. Merits ISO.

ColinIsCool - Destroyed Night 1. 50% chance killed by the mafia. Suspected Sloonei in a way that gained him some flack so possible vig hit as well. (Dare I consider a sker on the Syndicate?) Slight scumlean but probably consensus town.

DFaraday - Null. Come on, DF.

Dom - Null. Come on, Dom.

DrWilgy - Null. Come on, Doc.

Infected_alien8_ - Bad vibes. Kinda ignored them cause he’s new to me. Scumlean. Merits ISO.

JaggedJimmyJay - Destroyed Night 1. 50% chance of being the mafia hit. Acting different from normal so there’s a chance he was a vig hit. Few players flat out said Jay was bad, though. Townread.

K-Ness - Need more. Slight townlean.

Kylemii - Null. Come on, Kyle.

Long Con - Feels right. I sense town effort, not scum agenda. Townread.

Lunalee - Her willingness to defend her hubby who is statistically unlikely to be her scum partner feels town motivated but I still need more from her. Townlean.

MacDougall - Initially felt very town for mindmeld and aggression but I’m wavering a bit. Townlean.

Marmot - Null. Come on, Marmot.

novaselinenever - Townlean. Votes poured in on him too quickly and his reaction seemed genuine.

nutella - Townlean. Very loose. A bit swingy but that’s Nutella sometimes.

Quin - Townread. It’s a secret why.

Simon - Null. Come on, Simon. Likely not w/w with Sloonei.

Sloonei - I’ve gone back and forth. Overall, there’s not much in the way of red flags but I consider myself pretty bad at reading Sloonei. I think I may have identified a scumSloonei tendency but I’m keeping it in my back pocket. Slight townlean.

speedchuck - Null. Hasn’t really said much besides naysaying some shit. Come on, Speed.

Soneji - Null. Come on, Soneji.

sprityo - Townlean. It’s a secret from everyone.

Turnip Head - Scumlean. I don’t see the town/neutral TH I’m used to seeing. For someone so excited about this game, he hasn’t been very present.

White - Null. Has this slot posted?



So I’d probably shoot an inactive if it were up to me.

Nice analysis Jack. I would bet there's at least one mafia among the low/lazy-posters. We should look into DFaraday, Dom, Dr. Wilgy, Alien, K-Ness, Kylemii, Marmot, Simon, Speedchuck, Soneji, and sprityo.

(ignoring White for now. they aren't even playing)

That is sort of a long list, but I think it's a good place to start. I'll add my own analyses later.

My post-to-availability is actually very high thank you very much.

[mention]Marmot[/mention] I ask you to give me a single read on a person. Or more if it pleases you.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:14 am These ISOs are crap

Would you recommend doing ISOs? I'm asking for a friend.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:16 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:14 am These ISOs are crap

Would you recommend doing ISOs? I'm asking for a friend.

Not while pregnant or nursing, and not if you have a serious heart condition.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:15 am @Marmot I ask you to give me a single read on a person. Or more if it pleases you.

Here are 5 reads on Turnip Head.

Turnip Head
Turnip Head
Turnip Head
Turnip Head
Turnip Head

It's Night time you nitwit.

I do plan on reading some ISOs come Day 3 (namely Jay's and Colin's), and my heart should be able to handle it.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:15 am @Marmot I ask you to give me a single read on a person. Or more if it pleases you.

And to answer this question, everyone is mafia until I have proven otherwise.

Bullzeye wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:17 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:17 am

Infected_alien8_ wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:15 am Very initial first impression of the thread: Jay feels off, don't know why though

Probably trying to avoid the obvious conclusion that he was recruited.

Why is it obvious Jay would be recruited? The sign-up thread mentions that the baddies recruit roles, not players.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:47 am How many bad robots do we think there are?

Somewhere between 1 and 24.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:50 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:17 pm It was a nice quiet Day 0. Nothing happened.

Jay said this, which can mean one of two things:
Something happened to him on Day 0
OR
Nothing happened to him on Day 0.

OR
Something happened to someone else on Day 0.

I wish something had happened to me on Day 0...

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:30 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:47 am How many bad robots do we think there are?

Good way of look at whether people read the rules or not.

This isn't a closed setup, dude. It's an open setup with most details hidden.

I was beginning to think I was the only person who had done this!

The above are some quotes and replies from a single Bullzeye post. I cut some irrelevant stuff out.

"I read the rules!"
"I dunno how many bad bots there are." (Maybe being cheeky, idk)
"Gee, pity I'm not mafia..."
"Guys I totally read the rules!"

I'm getting two pings from this post. Forced ignorance and a... I don't even know what to call that middle thing. Tonally fake role regret?

speedchuck, I notice you took it for granted that Sloonei didn't read the rules while accusing Bullzeye of feigning ignorance. Why?

That said, I imagine Bullzeye is being cheeky in the second response, based on his other posts.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:28 am speedchuck, I notice you took it for granted that Sloonei didn't read the rules while accusing Bullzeye of feigning ignorance. Why?

I don't think I did that. It doesn't really matter why Sloonei asked the question here, does it?

Explain, and I'll try to clarify.

Are you talking roles or players? Because we still have at least one woman playing.

Lots of people just dipped into the thread a few minutes ago and then left without saying a word.

I will lynch all of them.