The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:27 pm**

so basically we lynch jack, and if the game doesnt end that just means nutella faked the night kill and soups mac and myself tonight. im confident we've killed 2/3 of the mafia.

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:28 pm**

What's the proof? I'm dumb.

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:30 pm**

hi dumb, im the priest

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:31 pm**

Maiden Voyage and a martini does indeed ease my mind.

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:32 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:30 pm hi dumb, im the priest

I will look at what that does.

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:33 pm**

Oh that's funny.

That's the thing I claimed in the beginning.

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:33 pm**

I'm not Mordecai by the way.

Surprise!

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:33 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:33 pm Oh that's funny.

That's the thing I claimed in the beginning.

i know, weird right? it's almost like no one believed you

linki: yeah i know

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:36 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:33 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:33 pm Oh that's funny.

That's the thing I claimed in the beginning.
i know, weird right? it's almost like no one believed you

linki: yeah i know

People are just too smart man.

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:37 pm**

Just tell me where to vote.

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:37 pm**

daisy and neverwhere are hard cleared
epi, mac, and nutella are soft cleared
so that's where we're at

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:39 pm**

the only unlikely scenario is if nutella faked the night kill miss or if epi is one sly devil

other than that jack has to be the last mafia

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:40 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:37 pm daisy and neverwhere are hard cleared
epi, mac, and nutella are soft cleared
so that's where we're at

I can roll with that.

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:58 pm**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:34 pm I lives!

Also I got no result sadly.
Too bad there wasn’t a plan to increase the chance you get results every night...

Right?

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:29 am**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:37 pm daisy and neverwhere are hard cleared
epi, mac, and nutella are soft cleared
so that's where we're at

Jesus Christ. This is a shitshow regardless of if you’re telling the truth or not.

Let’s say you’re not. You’ve “cleared” the consensus POE where a second wolf surely lies. You’ve now set it up where I’m a very likely lynch. Soupkill 2 players and that’s game. Town won’t even know after my flip who was lying. And I’m pretty inclined to believe this is where we are because yesterday, you said your POE was Epi, Never, Daisy and today you cleared all of them. Two roles could put you but chances are both would be dead for you to pull this. If only one is, they fight it and if I’m lynched, there’s your necessary extra kill ftr and if you’re lynched, you still get an extra kill and narrow down the role list. Maybe enough to get a win. Maybe not.

Let’s say you are. Telling the truth. Copping Daisy and Never and getting no reds means there’s only one wolf left. So the wolves are Luna/Muugen/??? If you think the wolves both decided to hard distance from me (and not each other) in a game with no flips, I got a bridge I’m looking to sell.

The wolves probably get 3 kills tonight. We could confirm you but that would give a fourth kill and with my mislynch, that’s a loss anyway. The unclaimed players even discussing this draws a roadmap to the acolyte if they're still alive.

How is Epi confirmed?

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:32 am**

EBWOP

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:29 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:37 pm daisy and neverwhere are hard cleared
epi, mac, and nutella are soft cleared
so that's where we're at
Jesus Christ. This is a shitshow regardless of if you’re telling the truth or not.

Let’s say you’re not. You’ve “cleared” the consensus POE where a second wolf surely lies. You’ve now set it up where I’m a very likely lynch. Soupkill 2 players and that’s game. Town won’t even know after my flip who was lying. And I’m pretty inclined to believe this is where we are because yesterday, you said your POE was Epi, Never, Daisy and today you cleared all of them. Two roles could out you but chances are both would be dead for you to pull this. If only one is, they fight it and if I’m lynched, there’s your necessary extra kill ftw and if you’re lynched, you still get an extra kill and narrow down the role list. Maybe enough to get a win. Maybe not.

Let’s say you are telling the truth. Copping Daisy and Never and getting no reds means there’s only one wolf left. So the wolves are Luna/Muugen/??? If you think the wolves both decided to hard distance from me (and not each other) in a game with no flips, I got a bridge I’m looking to sell.

The wolves probably get 3 kills tonight. We could confirm you but that would give a fourth kill and with my mislynch, that’s a loss anyway. The unclaimed players even discussing this draws a roadmap to the acolyte if they're still alive.

How is Epi confirmed?

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:45 am**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:47 pm If it's a simple missed kill then it's Spacedaisy.
Wrong. I submitted my action thank you very much. I’m not bad.

Well it wasn't a simple missed kill so I am not wrong. So eat a dick.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:57 am**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:24 pm now how could i confirm three people to be not mafia mac, who could possible do that?

So you have town cleared by priesthood everyone in the game with the exception of nutella and jack?

Can you please tell me who you targeted each night?

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:59 am**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:37 pm daisy and neverwhere are hard cleared
epi, mac, and nutella are soft cleared
so that's where we're at

This is brilliant sprityo.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:02 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:29 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:37 pm daisy and neverwhere are hard cleared
epi, mac, and nutella are soft cleared
so that's where we're at
Jesus Christ. This is a shitshow regardless of if you’re telling the truth or not.

Let’s say you’re not. You’ve “cleared” the consensus POE where a second wolf surely lies. You’ve now set it up where I’m a very likely lynch. Soupkill 2 players and that’s game. Town won’t even know after my flip who was lying. And I’m pretty inclined to believe this is where we are because yesterday, you said your POE was Epi, Never, Daisy and today you cleared all of them. Two roles could put you but chances are both would be dead for you to pull this. If only one is, they fight it and if I’m lynched, there’s your necessary extra kill ftr and if you’re lynched, you still get an extra kill and narrow down the role list. Maybe enough to get a win. Maybe not.

Let’s say you are. Telling the truth. Copping Daisy and Never and getting no reds means there’s only one wolf left. So the wolves are Luna/Muugen/??? If you think the wolves both decided to hard distance from me (and not each other) in a game with no flips, I got a bridge I’m looking to sell.

The wolves probably get 3 kills tonight. We could confirm you but that would give a fourth kill and with my mislynch, that’s a loss anyway. The unclaimed players even discussing this draws a roadmap to the acolyte if they're still alive.

How is Epi confirmed?

This is the reaction I would have expected from a Mafia.

The reaction I expected from a civ was "lolwot".

So yeah gg.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:07 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:29 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:37 pm daisy and neverwhere are hard cleared
epi, mac, and nutella are soft cleared
so that's where we're at
Jesus Christ. This is a shitshow regardless of if you’re telling the truth or not.

Let’s say you’re not. You’ve “cleared” the consensus POE where a second wolf surely lies. You’ve now set it up where I’m a very likely lynch. Soupkill 2 players and that’s game. Town won’t even know after my flip who was lying. And I’m pretty inclined to believe this is where we are because yesterday, you said your POE was Epi, Never, Daisy and today you cleared all of them. Two roles could put you but chances are both would be dead for you to pull this. If only one is, they fight it and if I’m lynched, there’s your necessary extra kill ftr and if you’re lynched, you still get an extra kill and narrow down the role list. Maybe enough to get a win. Maybe not.

Let’s say you are. Telling the truth. Copping Daisy and Never and getting no reds means there’s only one wolf left. So the wolves are Luna/Muugen/??? If you think the wolves both decided to hard distance from me (and not each other) in a game with no flips, I got a bridge I’m looking to sell.

The wolves probably get 3 kills tonight. We could confirm you but that would give a fourth kill and with my mislynch, that’s a loss anyway. The unclaimed players even discussing this draws a roadmap to the acolyte if they're still alive.

How is Epi confirmed?

How is it that you don't react to him with suspicion if you believe him to be this wrong. From what I see, the only way that he could be wrong is if he is lying and if he is lying it is a gambit to win the game tonight after he causes your mislynch. And if he is lying then we would have a priest counterclaim right now. Which we do not have.

"If you think the wolves both decided to hard distance from me (and not each other) in a game with no flips, I got a bridge I’m looking to sell." - Why wouldn't they in a game where there is an Oracle?

Also it makes sense why I wasn't targeted now, because I had my eyes off you so you figured I was no threat. Your attempt to kill nutella was hopeful that she was the priest. Sprityo threw you for a loop by bullshitting about his POE. The angels probably had deduced that nutella was the priest too for similar reasons.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:07 am**

This feels extremely correct.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:11 am**

Also there is a witch named Handsome Jack which I don't think speedchuck could have resisted making Jack.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:15 am**

He’s not confirming Epi by night target. If he said yesterday “My POE going into N2 is Epi, Daisy, Never” and then on D3 he said “I copped Epi, Daisy, Never town” then yeah, he’d have to be lying.

It’s possible we have a Luna/Muugen/Epi team.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:17 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:15 am He’s not confirming Epi by night target. If he said yesterday “My POE going into N2 is Epi, Daisy, Never” and then on D3 he said “I copped Epi, Daisy, Never town” then yeah, he’d have to be lying.

It’s possible we have a Luna/Muugen/Epi team.

Okay hot shot go make a case against Epignosis. I'll wait.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:18 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:17 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:15 am He’s not confirming Epi by night target. If he said yesterday “My POE going into N2 is Epi, Daisy, Never” and then on D3 he said “I copped Epi, Daisy, Never town” then yeah, he’d have to be lying.

It’s possible we have a Luna/Muugen/Epi team.
Okay hot shot go make a case against Epignosis. I'll wait.

POE.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:00 am**

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:03 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:45 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:47 pm If it's a simple missed kill then it's Spacedaisy.
Wrong. I submitted my action thank you very much. I’m not bad.
Well it wasn't a simple missed kill so I am not wrong. So eat a dick.

<3

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:05 am**

I’m going to cast my [VOTE: Jack] aubergine to be sure I don’t forget, but Jack I will be listening still to hear your case. Votes are changeable and I don’t wanna miss again.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:07 am**

Oh man, I think I just hammered. I’m so not used to this voting.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:07 am**

Well, here’s to hoping this ends the game.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:44 am**

Pretty sure I hammered him

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:25 am**

I don’t have a way to confirm epi, I just feel real good about him.

The reason I can pretty much trust mac is because I can confirm that I checked nova night 1 so that’s how mac got his free check on Luna being mafia

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:28 am**

also handsome jack is the only person that says “filthy bandit”

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:31 am**

I’d like to point out as well with only one mafia left we’re technically safe if we’re somehow wrong on jack, cause the soup is two guaranteed kills making it 3:1. 2:1 if they’re lucky.

But if they miss anything else they get revealed and lose

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:40 am**

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:25 am I don’t have a way to confirm epi, I just feel real good about him.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:47 am**

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:31 am I’d like to point out as well with only one mafia left we’re technically safe if we’re somehow wrong on jack, cause the soup is two guaranteed kills making it 3:1. 2:1 if they’re lucky.

But if they miss anything else they get revealed and lose

This is flat false.

If it’s just Epi, mislynching me results in the deaths of Jack, Sprityo, Mac, probably Daisy and then Epi has to guess what role Never or Nutella has ftw. That’s either real easy if he’s the witch that learns flip ids or really hard if he’s not.

If it’s you and Epi or you and Never (or you and Daisy, though I doubt that’s where we are), lynching me (or any unclaimed townie) is a town loss.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:53 am**

This is such a shit situation. The best way for me to avoid my own game ending mislynch is to case Epi but I don’t know that it’s Epi.

The only mislynch we can actually afford is a claimed mislynch so we can lynch between Sprityo and Daisy and win regardless of their alignment. Daisy can’t be mafia without Sprityo being mafia. So we can only afford to mislynch Sprityo. If we lynch Sprityo, there’s no way to know if we lynched the cop or if we lynched one of two wolves because there’s no way the mafia doesn’t soupkill Mac regardless. Then we’re in the same spot we are today. It’s Jack or Epi or Sprityo+Daisy/Never.

So we might as well figure it out today.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:55 am**

I guess it’s not actually shit to narrow the Poe in this way. I’ll just go find the mafia then.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:59 am**

Epi/Luna compatibility is like “fucking maybe.”

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:04 am**

Epi/Muugen compatibility is also fucking maybe.

For Luna, he declared one of her posts comes from a wolf but kept a wide POE and didn’t really go after her. Did he vote for her? Idk.

For Muugen, he declared him a civ at one point and said he slightly preferred lynching Muugen over Never or Daisy. Did he vote for Muugen or Sloonei?

Someone not on a phone iso Speed and Gimmie the vote counts.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:07 am**

Sprityo has...no posts containing the words Luna or Lunalee prior to her death.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:17 am**

Maybe I just let myself get lynched and hope the mafia guess a soup wrong. That’s certainly the path of least resistance.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:47 am**

Why would daisy get souped?

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:49 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:17 am Maybe I just let myself get lynched and hope the mafia guess a soup wrong. That’s certainly the path of least resistance.

Please go ahead

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:32 am**

Well, it looks like it's already been decided.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:52 am**

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:47 am Why would daisy get souped?

She’s claimed a targeting power.

Targeting powers are cop (claimed), oracle (claimed), vig (didn’t target), marter, clown. If either the marter or clown got nked and the mafia learned their role, then the mafia knows Daisy’s role. If not, they have a 50% guess.

So she’s in the same bucket you are. If she’s town, she dies tonight. If she’s not, she has explaining to do tomorrow.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:53 am**

[mention]MacDougall[/mention]
[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention]
[mention]Neverwhere[/mention]

This isn’t a hammer game. It’s maj at deadline.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:09 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:53 am @MacDougall
@Spacedaisy
@Neverwhere

This isn’t a hammer game. It’s maj at deadline.

Yup. I've not been around much today, so my vote is in now in case.

Im not sure about epi, but I don't think many other people are feeling that way/ my posts stating that suspicion have been ignored, so im assuming no one else feels that way.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:30 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:52 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:47 am Why would daisy get souped?
She’s claimed a targeting power.

Targeting powers are cop (claimed), oracle (claimed), vig (didn’t target), marter, clown. If either the marter or clown got nked and the mafia learned their role, then the mafia knows Daisy’s role. If not, they have a 50% guess.

So she’s in the same bucket you are. If she’s town, she dies tonight. If she’s not, she has explaining to do tomorrow.

She did?

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