The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:29 am**

I read Alison's ISO in the night and thought she was definitely inside of her wolfrange. The way that she was making reads on day 1 was unusual for her. She entered the thread immediately trying to construct things and took no time for her usual reaction tests and analysis. At minimum she is trying different strategy. I am not opposed to votes on her, but mischopping her is game losing so I am cautious.

Seanzie you seem like an inno child.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:30 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:28 am But I also wanted to hear your general opinion of me vs Dizzy more than that specific argument

I have no read on Dizzy. I'll remedy that.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:31 am**

Why is misexing me game losing? Just sheep my POE, you know I am good at finding wolves on my wagon when I am the designated misexe (CoV, PSY as examples).

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:31 am**

Lu Ren wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:28 am pretty sure esooa was a doc dodge tbh

this probably makes this slot town

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:31 am**

If anyone has arguments for me and dizzy being T/T make them now, else just promise to vote Dizzy if I ever flip

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:32 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:31 am Why is misexing me game losing? Just sheep my POE, you know I am good at finding wolves on my wagon when I am the designated misexe (CoV, PSY as examples).

It won't work like that. You aren't that naive surely?

You die, I did, wolves coast. That's how this goes if you are town and die today.

If you are town you should stop playing like you are ok with dying today and start pushing your best chop.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:32 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:31 am
Lu Ren wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:28 am pretty sure esooa was a doc dodge tbh
this probably makes this slot town

wolfiest post by mac so far

Could easily be a joke, and even if not it's trivially easily faked

Why's this a good clear?

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:33 am**

@EnderWiggin where are you? I am surprised not to see your prints all over this game. Did you rand wolf?

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:33 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:31 am
Lu Ren wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:28 am pretty sure esooa was a doc dodge tbh
this probably makes this slot town
wolfiest post by mac so far

Could easily be a joke, and even if not it's trivially easily faked

Why's this a good clear?

I have never seen Lu Ren before so I assume they are a noob that doesn't fake stuff like this so it's probably just a genuine derpclear.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:33 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:28 am But I also wanted to hear your general opinion of me vs Dizzy more than that specific argument

Can you tell me where the "vs" comes from here?

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:33 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:32 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:31 am Why is misexing me game losing? Just sheep my POE, you know I am good at finding wolves on my wagon when I am the designated misexe (CoV, PSY as examples).
It won't work like that. You aren't that naive surely?

You die, I did, wolves coast. That's how this goes if you are town and die today.

If you are town you should stop playing like you are ok with dying today and start pushing your best chop.

I am pushing Dizzy mate.

I just also realize that Dizzy might not go over today and am setting up contingencies to prevent the very scenario you are talking about by forcing people to commit to exeing Dizzy if I die.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:34 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:33 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:28 am But I also wanted to hear your general opinion of me vs Dizzy more than that specific argument
Can you tell me where the "vs" comes from here?

Surely you realize that a lot of the last few pages have been me and Dizzy suspecting each other

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:35 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:33 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:32 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:31 am Why is misexing me game losing? Just sheep my POE, you know I am good at finding wolves on my wagon when I am the designated misexe (CoV, PSY as examples).
It won't work like that. You aren't that naive surely?

You die, I did, wolves coast. That's how this goes if you are town and die today.

If you are town you should stop playing like you are ok with dying today and start pushing your best chop.
I am pushing Dizzy mate.

I just also realize that Dizzy might not go over today and am setting up contingencies to prevent the very scenario you are talking about by forcing people to commit to exeing Dizzy if I die.

I just don't understand why you are so resigned. Alison being chopped day 2 should require a near flawless case for it imo.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:35 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:33 am @EnderWiggin where are you? I am surprised not to see your prints all over this game. Did you rand wolf?

He did one townie thing early but I suppose I should not be clearing him for that alone. Probably the most likely deepwolf if there is one.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:36 am**

I am somewhat inclined to side with Alison and see if she kills a wolf today honestly because if she is mafia and feels like she's drowning she is probably tunneling a teammate anyway. And if she's town well that's just the correct thing to do isn't it.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:36 am**

@Dyslexicon make posts.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:37 am**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:55 pm is the reason you have no motivation because you’re mafia because if so if you tell us that will end your suffering
No, I just don't like reading. I forgot I signed up for this game, and then forgot about the game again, and now I'm wondering if I can just play the game with no motivation, basically no reading, and still not be a total donkey who fucks me team over. It's been going so-so in the past. =p

Possibly a bad read but I almost feel like Dyslexicon would have answered yes to this if they were town.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:37 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:35 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:33 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:32 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:31 am Why is misexing me game losing? Just sheep my POE, you know I am good at finding wolves on my wagon when I am the designated misexe (CoV, PSY as examples).
It won't work like that. You aren't that naive surely?

You die, I did, wolves coast. That's how this goes if you are town and die today.

If you are town you should stop playing like you are ok with dying today and start pushing your best chop.
I am pushing Dizzy mate.

I just also realize that Dizzy might not go over today and am setting up contingencies to prevent the very scenario you are talking about by forcing people to commit to exeing Dizzy if I die.
I just don't understand why you are so resigned. Alison being chopped day 2 should require a near flawless case for it imo.

Maybe if we are playing with Sloonei, JJJ, etc.

I was chopped D1 last game for literally no reason. As in, a mafia member said "let's CFD alison" and naked voted me and everyone else hopped on.

Axe is hard tunnelled and he is stubborn enough that he is unlikely to move. Nook's vote is chained to his.

I am not resigned to my death and I have been spending every post since D2 started pushing my reads and pointing out why I am in the right. I am just being realistic that there is a good chance I can die here.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:39 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:37 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:35 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:33 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:32 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:31 am Why is misexing me game losing? Just sheep my POE, you know I am good at finding wolves on my wagon when I am the designated misexe (CoV, PSY as examples).
It won't work like that. You aren't that naive surely?

You die, I did, wolves coast. That's how this goes if you are town and die today.

If you are town you should stop playing like you are ok with dying today and start pushing your best chop.
I am pushing Dizzy mate.

I just also realize that Dizzy might not go over today and am setting up contingencies to prevent the very scenario you are talking about by forcing people to commit to exeing Dizzy if I die.
I just don't understand why you are so resigned. Alison being chopped day 2 should require a near flawless case for it imo.
Maybe if we are playing with Sloonei, JJJ, etc.

I was chopped D1 last game for literally no reason. As in, a mafia member said "let's CFD alison" and naked voted me and everyone else hopped on.

Axe is hard tunnelled and he is stubborn enough that he is unlikely to move. Nook's vote is chained to his.

I am not resigned to my death and I have been spending every post since D2 started pushing my reads and pointing out why I am in the right. I am just being realistic that there is a good chance I can die here.

Well, I am here now so.

Tell me in 30 words or fewer why Dyslexicon is mafia, and also who your top 2 town are.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:39 am**

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why is your vote chained to a guy who is a blatant neg utility for town in most of his games?

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:42 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:35 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:46 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:12 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:08 pm I haven’t read yet literally just checking in
Yeah, but you've already done that.

And I've seen this technique from you before as Maf, so....

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

Cue the indignant outbrust at being scum read while being busy IRL and trying to catch up
I was responding to Luckbox calling it wolfy. And saying that that was just me checking in.

The rest of your post is unnecessarily rude. I’ve been scum read plenty of times in my over a decade of playing mafia without indignant outburst but thanks.
Yeah, you're right. Sorry 'bout that

Fingersplints is town. @fingersplints come say hi.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:42 am**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:44 am I really don’t like the plan of “let’s vote Alison because she was wrong in her suspicion, then if she comes back as town we’ll just vote this person next anyways”
That’s how mafia controls the day and how town loses

A sane person. Let's strive to be more like fingersplints.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:43 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:39 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why is your vote chained to a guy who is a blatant neg utility for town in most of his games?

Hi Mac.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:43 am**

Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:33 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:30 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:28 pm Syn, you are full of bs, and i take offense of the alt remark. We have a serious problem.
Sounds like a you problem.
Dude, you are the number one problem here.

I already took notes of your misbehavior this game

I am out before i yell at half the thread.

Also an inno child

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:44 am**

Dizzy is scum because he has pushed me for bad reasons, is attempting to mimic his afk town playstyle while pushing a scum agenda and nightkilled the person who suspected him

Top two town are... Lu Ren and Axe.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:44 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:43 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:39 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why is your vote chained to a guy who is a blatant neg utility for town in most of his games?
Hi Mac.

huh?

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:44 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:44 am Dizzy is scum because he has pushed me for bad reasons, is attempting to mimic his afk town playstyle while pushing a scum agenda and nightkilled the person who suspected him

Top two town are... Lu Ren and Axe.

You reckon Axe is town?

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:45 am**

Sorry imagine I added why to the end of that post.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:45 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:44 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:43 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:39 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why is your vote chained to a guy who is a blatant neg utility for town in most of his games?
Hi Mac.
huh?

Hi! Hello! Salutations! Hi Mac.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:45 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:00 pm prob just turbo dyslexicon

aye aye captain

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:46 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:45 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:44 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:43 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:39 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why is your vote chained to a guy who is a blatant neg utility for town in most of his games?
Hi Mac.
huh?
Hi! Hello! Salutations! Hi Mac.

Hello?

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:47 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:44 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:44 am Dizzy is scum because he has pushed me for bad reasons, is attempting to mimic his afk town playstyle while pushing a scum agenda and nightkilled the person who suspected him

Top two town are... Lu Ren and Axe.
You reckon Axe is town?

I think so. Nook is POE and he is almost certainly TMI'ing Axe if he is scum. Axe has also ventured zero interest in making friends or influencing the town and has flashes of genuine interest/concern about the gamestate behind his asshole facade. The way that Axe interacted with Dizzy also makes me think they aren't partners.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:47 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:46 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:45 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:44 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:43 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:39 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why is your vote chained to a guy who is a blatant neg utility for town in most of his games?
Hi Mac.
huh?
Hi! Hello! Salutations! Hi Mac.
Hello?

Do you know where I'm at?

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:47 am**

Cursory glances at ISOs tells me that the game is rather polarised towards Alison.

Lu Ren, Luckbox, Belzy all very confident in Alison = town.
Many very confident in Alison = wolf.

Makes me wanna townread all the ppl who have been making reads/pushes outside her.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:48 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:46 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:45 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:44 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:43 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:39 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why is your vote chained to a guy who is a blatant neg utility for town in most of his games?
Hi Mac.
huh?
Hi! Hello! Salutations! Hi Mac.
Hello?
Do you know where I'm at?

Clearly not man, that's why I said huh in the first place.

Are you trying to say that Nanook is sheeping you not Axe? Or that Axe is sheeping you?

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:49 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:29 pm vote DOOm for chaos

this post is ridiculous

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:50 am**

Mac is probably town for siding with me!

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:51 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:42 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:35 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:46 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:12 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:08 pm I haven’t read yet literally just checking in
Yeah, but you've already done that.

And I've seen this technique from you before as Maf, so....

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

Cue the indignant outbrust at being scum read while being busy IRL and trying to catch up
I was responding to Luckbox calling it wolfy. And saying that that was just me checking in.

The rest of your post is unnecessarily rude. I’ve been scum read plenty of times in my over a decade of playing mafia without indignant outburst but thanks.
Yeah, you're right. Sorry 'bout that
Fingersplints is town. @fingersplints come say hi.

Hello

I’m around

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:51 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:50 am Mac is probably town for siding with me!

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:53 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:44 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:44 am Dizzy is scum because he has pushed me for bad reasons, is attempting to mimic his afk town playstyle while pushing a scum agenda and nightkilled the person who suspected him

Top two town are... Lu Ren and Axe.
You reckon Axe is town?
I think so. Nook is POE and he is almost certainly TMI'ing Axe if he is scum. Axe has also ventured zero interest in making friends or influencing the town and has flashes of genuine interest/concern about the gamestate behind his asshole facade. The way that Axe interacted with Dizzy also makes me think they aren't partners.

If dizzy is town, does that change your opinion of Axe?

I’m a bit suspicious of Axe atm, mainly for being one of the people pushing we have to vote you today, but I want to also give some benefit of the doubt that they could just be wrong as well.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:56 am**

@Seanzie who are Alison's partners? None of the people that look like they could b her partners look independently scummy to me. I doubt she's being bussed.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:57 am**

If Dizzy is town then we're turbofucked lol because scum will probably get exes on strong town players for free back to back.

In that world it's probably Seanzie/Mac or something. But in that world you should distrust my reads anyway because I'm clearly off.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:59 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:57 am If Dizzy is town then we're turbofucked lol because scum will probably get exes on strong town players for free back to back.

In that world it's probably Seanzie/Mac or something. But in that world you should distrust my reads anyway because I'm clearly off.

there are only two mafia in this?

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:59 am**

What are your thoughts on dizzy fingersplints

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:59 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:59 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:57 am If Dizzy is town then we're turbofucked lol because scum will probably get exes on strong town players for free back to back.

In that world it's probably Seanzie/Mac or something. But in that world you should distrust my reads anyway because I'm clearly off.
there are only two mafia in this?

/axe

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:00 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:56 am @Seanzie who are Alison's partners? None of the people that look like they could b her partners look independently scummy to me. I doubt she's being bussed.

Respond to my requests for reads and I'll respond to yours. Who have you looked at? how much have you read?

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:00 am**

I would like to hear why @Luckbox Inc is confident that me/Dizzy are T/T despite gamestate

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:15 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:29 am I read Alison's ISO in the night and thought she was definitely inside of her wolfrange. The way that she was making reads on day 1 was unusual for her. She entered the thread immediately trying to construct things and took no time for her usual reaction tests and analysis. At minimum she is trying different strategy. I am not opposed to votes on her, but mischopping her is game losing so I am cautious.

Seanzie you seem like an inno child.

i don't deny that her pushes were bad or didn't make sense, but i really don't think she'd pick those reasons to push a villager on

that's the beginning and the end of it

let's kill other people, such as the people encouraging that dichotomy yesterday

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:18 am**

I'm pretty confident Mac is town here, unless Alison is both a villager and like as incorrect as possible on her reads; his approach is just the most townsided thing anyone in this game has done this entire time and it's an unexpected breath of fresh air.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:24 am**

Wanna vote dizzy with me luren?

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