I don't know why I'm so off on this game this day phase suddenly. Like I'm losing confidence on my reads.
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:00 pm
by ilario
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:44 pm
I don't know why I'm so off on this game this day phase suddenly. Like I'm losing confidence on my reads.
I think the gamestate is harder to judge sometimes when a wolf is flipped d1, especially when the decision wasn’t unanimous and the votes were decided by a difference of 1. I think the poe looks very different if you live in a world where you think wolves were okay with bussing seanzie d1 vs a world where they were trying to save him.
if I were to think tsp is mafia that means wolves made a conscious effort to try and save Sean, in which case I’d be willing to clear almost everyone that voted on that wagon. But in a world where the wagon is pure I do wonder why alison was killed considering she voted off wagon, which means there might be more to the NK than it simply just being a spk.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:45 am
Also Nook/Rondo probably not teamed.
This was Seanzie’s only read in the game.
Do we think he spends his only read townreading his partner?
Doubtful, actually.
clearing us both?
no I was talking more about nook.
And even then I wouldn’t clear anyone because that Seanzie spew is paper thin. He did a good job of hiding his partners, but a terrible job of not appearing as an obvious wolf so…half win I guess?
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:04 pm
Wait, I just ISOd Gav, and it's all garbage memes.
[VOTE:
Gav] aubergine
Are you forced to communicate this way, or is it a personal choice?
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:51 am
by EnderWiggin
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:05 pm
@EnderWiggin @RondoDimBuckle
I understand you both have meta on each other from playing together irl. Can you go into each other’s meta for me as both town and mafia, thanks
Not until later tbh.
Quick summary is that Rondo likes being involved and no matter alignment will talk a lot.
As town he loves being contrarian and hunting the deep wolf. He is very wary of people that get townread a lot as he considers them likely deep wolves. He is also happy to be in POE slots usually because he isn't bothered by being voted out. His solving is a little odd but it works out eventually most of the time, and catches some people faster than I can.
As wolf he likes to imitate a lot of the above but he tends to try and pull people into traps where if you take either of the options it works out for him. (Tying people to partners, setting himself up to be sussed to clear another wolf, etc.) so I fully expect him to get heavily into bus meta when he's more familiar with forumspace.
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:02 pm
I can confirm I got a note sent to me yesterday night, I’m assuming that was from gav?
LMAOOO I can confirm that the note I got from gav was the lyrics to this song. I would say that this role is more likely to be from a town than a mafia? I’m not sure what the intentions would be to give mafia a note giver unless there’s like a lost wolf or something
Meh, I've seen roles do that as both town and scum. The role is NAI I'd say
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:02 pm
I can confirm I got a note sent to me yesterday night, I’m assuming that was from gav?
LMAOOO I can confirm that the note I got from gav was the lyrics to this song. I would say that this role is more likely to be from a town than a mafia? I’m not sure what the intentions would be to give mafia a note giver unless there’s like a lost wolf or something
i mean the role is probably nai and the usage of it is probably actually slightly towny but i just can't justify like
leaving that alive??
for what it's worth we have gavial as a wolf note passer meta, he was a note passer in Fallout, he scumslipped in the first note and then he sent the second one to the same person we killed and then he openly claimed in thread how upset he was that his team killed his action target
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:05 pm
@EnderWiggin @RondoDimBuckle
I understand you both have meta on each other from playing together irl. Can you go into each other’s meta for me as both town and mafia, thanks
Not until later tbh.
Quick summary is that Rondo likes being involved and no matter alignment will talk a lot.
As town he loves being contrarian and hunting the deep wolf. He is very wary of people that get townread a lot as he considers them likely deep wolves. He is also happy to be in POE slots usually because he isn't bothered by being voted out. His solving is a little odd but it works out eventually most of the time, and catches some people faster than I can.
As wolf he likes to imitate a lot of the above but he tends to try and pull people into traps where if you take either of the options it works out for him. (Tying people to partners, setting himself up to be sussed to clear another wolf, etc.) so I fully expect him to get heavily into bus meta when he's more familiar with forumspace.
Ender is basically the same except he's better and he isnt contrarian and he doesnt usually land in the poe. ok basically opposite. He's the opposite in a lot of ways
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:02 pm
I can confirm I got a note sent to me yesterday night, I’m assuming that was from gav?
LMAOOO I can confirm that the note I got from gav was the lyrics to this song. I would say that this role is more likely to be from a town than a mafia? I’m not sure what the intentions would be to give mafia a note giver unless there’s like a lost wolf or something
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:05 pm
@EnderWiggin @RondoDimBuckle
I understand you both have meta on each other from playing together irl. Can you go into each other’s meta for me as both town and mafia, thanks
Not until later tbh.
Quick summary is that Rondo likes being involved and no matter alignment will talk a lot.
As town he loves being contrarian and hunting the deep wolf. He is very wary of people that get townread a lot as he considers them likely deep wolves. He is also happy to be in POE slots usually because he isn't bothered by being voted out. His solving is a little odd but it works out eventually most of the time, and catches some people faster than I can.
As wolf he likes to imitate a lot of the above but he tends to try and pull people into traps where if you take either of the options it works out for him. (Tying people to partners, setting himself up to be sussed to clear another wolf, etc.) so I fully expect him to get heavily into bus meta when he's more familiar with forumspace.
Ender is basically the same except he's better and he isnt contrarian and he doesnt usually land in the poe. ok basically opposite. He's the opposite in a lot of ways
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:05 pm
@EnderWiggin @RondoDimBuckle
I understand you both have meta on each other from playing together irl. Can you go into each other’s meta for me as both town and mafia, thanks
Not until later tbh.
Quick summary is that Rondo likes being involved and no matter alignment will talk a lot.
As town he loves being contrarian and hunting the deep wolf. He is very wary of people that get townread a lot as he considers them likely deep wolves. He is also happy to be in POE slots usually because he isn't bothered by being voted out. His solving is a little odd but it works out eventually most of the time, and catches some people faster than I can.
As wolf he likes to imitate a lot of the above but he tends to try and pull people into traps where if you take either of the options it works out for him. (Tying people to partners, setting himself up to be sussed to clear another wolf, etc.) so I fully expect him to get heavily into bus meta when he's more familiar with forumspace.
Ender is basically the same except he's better and he isnt contrarian and he doesnt usually land in the poe. ok basically opposite. He's the opposite in a lot of ways
Lmao
Im looking forward to us being on the same wolf team as unlikely as that is
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:05 pm
@EnderWiggin @RondoDimBuckle
I understand you both have meta on each other from playing together irl. Can you go into each other’s meta for me as both town and mafia, thanks
Not until later tbh.
Quick summary is that Rondo likes being involved and no matter alignment will talk a lot.
As town he loves being contrarian and hunting the deep wolf. He is very wary of people that get townread a lot as he considers them likely deep wolves. He is also happy to be in POE slots usually because he isn't bothered by being voted out. His solving is a little odd but it works out eventually most of the time, and catches some people faster than I can.
As wolf he likes to imitate a lot of the above but he tends to try and pull people into traps where if you take either of the options it works out for him. (Tying people to partners, setting himself up to be sussed to clear another wolf, etc.) so I fully expect him to get heavily into bus meta when he's more familiar with forumspace.
Ender is basically the same except he's better and he isnt contrarian and he doesnt usually land in the poe. ok basically opposite. He's the opposite in a lot of ways
Lmao
Im looking forward to us being on the same wolf team as unlikely as that is
Tbh same.
I only remember one game of Secret Hitler where we got to be evil together.
You threw me under the bus to get them to elect hitler for the win.
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:13 am
by RondoDimBuckle
Im a such a manipulative bastard
Id do it again
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:19 am
by EnderWiggin
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:13 am
Im a such a manipulative bastard
Id do it again
I mean I'd let you. I don't care if I die if it's for the team win.
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 1
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:49 am
by ilario
Okay so after finishing gavials iso I would lean on him being town. He’s pretty much unanimously gotten shit from so many players in this lobby for his gimmick that I think at this point I struggle to see him partnered with anyone and there’s probably someone in there who was trying to push him opportunistically for his gimmick. If I am wrong on this read however, I do think he’s never partnered with either Scotty or dyson should any of those slots flip mafia.
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 1
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:58 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
ilario wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:49 am
Okay so after finishing gavials iso I would lean on him being town. He’s pretty much unanimously gotten shit from so many players in this lobby for his gimmick that I think at this point I struggle to see him partnered with anyone and there’s probably someone in there who was trying to push him opportunistically for his gimmick. If I am wrong on this read however, I do think he’s never partnered with either Scotty or dyson should any of those slots flip mafia.
ilario wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:49 am
Okay so after finishing gavials iso I would lean on him being town. He’s pretty much unanimously gotten shit from so many players in this lobby for his gimmick that I think at this point I struggle to see him partnered with anyone and there’s probably someone in there who was trying to push him opportunistically for his gimmick. If I am wrong on this read however, I do think he’s never partnered with either Scotty or dyson should any of those slots flip mafia.
Hes a commonly bussed player
Oooh okay I’ll defs keep that in mind. If I had to guess this setup is probably 3 mafia and 10 town, so with only 2 mafia left I do think the remaining scum would be less inclined to bus just right now
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:02 am
by ilario
Jack hearts was probably one of my stronger townreads d1 based on how much it felt like we were on the same page about most things. I did feel wary coming into this iso because I haven’t felt as mindmeldy with him today as I had on today and in fact I can’t really remember his posts too much today.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:41 am
My thoughts halfway up page 6 are like “I suspect Rondo, Alison, Seanzie in roughly that order. Alison is going after Rondo and Seanzie. Let’s flip a wolf in this group and spew one of my suspects town, too.”
But then I got the the posts where Alison starts going after Scotty and I didn’t like that shit because it felt like it ruined the plan.
Twice per game at night, you can discover if a player used any active abilities in the current and past phases. You do not learn what those abilities were or when exactly such abilities were used; only that they were used. Level 5 Processing
You don't have any more abilities.
Day 2 has begun and ends in about 48 hours. [Countdown Link]
Clearly the wolf strategy is to make sure I don’t feel too good about my reads.
Okay at this point I stopped reading his iso, I didn’t realize he was the one who hammered seanzie at the end. Yeah, there’s no point for me to read further, this dudes probably just town and even if he is a deepwolf I’ll probably be nkd long before I have a chance to find anything substantive to support a tinfoil.
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:02 am
by ilario
ilario wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:02 am
Jack hearts was probably one of my stronger townreads d1 based on how much it felt like we were on the same page about most things. I did feel wary coming into this iso because I haven’t felt as mindmeldy with him today as I had yesterday and in fact I can’t really remember his posts too much today.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:41 am
My thoughts halfway up page 6 are like “I suspect Rondo, Alison, Seanzie in roughly that order. Alison is going after Rondo and Seanzie. Let’s flip a wolf in this group and spew one of my suspects town, too.”
But then I got the the posts where Alison starts going after Scotty and I didn’t like that shit because it felt like it ruined the plan.
Twice per game at night, you can discover if a player used any active abilities in the current and past phases. You do not learn what those abilities were or when exactly such abilities were used; only that they were used. Level 5 Processing
You don't have any more abilities.
Day 2 has begun and ends in about 48 hours. [Countdown Link]
Clearly the wolf strategy is to make sure I don’t feel too good about my reads.
Okay at this point I stopped reading his iso, I didn’t realize he was the one who hammered seanzie at the end. Yeah, there’s no point for me to read further, this dudes probably just town and even if he is a deepwolf I’ll probably be nkd long before I have a chance to find anything substantive to support a tinfoil.
Ebwop
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:54 am
by RondoDimBuckle
Dead Air dead villager?
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:55 am
by RondoDimBuckle
Dyson sphere
1
8%
Voters: Scotty
EnderWiggin
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Gavial
3
25%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, falcon45ca, TonyStarkPrime
ilario
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
4
33%
Voters: EnderWiggin, RondoDimBuckle, Lime Coke, Gavial
RondoDimBuckle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
1
8%
Voters: Dyson sphere
Skip
0
No votes
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:45 am
Also Nook/Rondo probably not teamed.
looking at this again, it is really strange for him to out a townread on someone and then make a "not-teamed" read with that same person in the immediate post. if you tr someone it would normally mean they cant be teamed with anybody in the lobby...so i do wonder why he chose those 2 names specifically..
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:27 am
by EnderWiggin
It might be because he's scum doc.
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:28 am
by EnderWiggin
Okay, seriously I'm tunnelled here, if anyone wants to bring up a case on someone I'll listen to it. Hell I'll even listen to Nanook if he makes a case.
If you don't I'm going to go to bed with the assumption Nanook will flip and flip red.
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:30 am
by ilario
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:28 am
Okay, seriously I'm tunnelled here, if anyone wants to bring up a case on someone I'll listen to it. Hell I'll even listen to Nanook if he makes a case.
If you don't I'm going to go to bed with the assumption Nanook will flip and flip red.
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:28 am
Okay, seriously I'm tunnelled here, if anyone wants to bring up a case on someone I'll listen to it. Hell I'll even listen to Nanook if he makes a case.
If you don't I'm going to go to bed with the assumption Nanook will flip and flip red.
whats ur reads outside of nook
Rather than type it all up I'll just quote what I said already.
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:06 am
Town:
Lime Coke
Enderwiggin
Jackofheats2005
Scotty
Lesser Town:
TonyStarkPrime
ilario
The rest:
Gavial
falcon45ca
Lesser Scum:
Dyson Sphere
One Wolf:
RondoDimBuckle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:28 am
Okay, seriously I'm tunnelled here, if anyone wants to bring up a case on someone I'll listen to it. Hell I'll even listen to Nanook if he makes a case.
If you don't I'm going to go to bed with the assumption Nanook will flip and flip red.
whats ur reads outside of nook
Rather than type it all up I'll just quote what I said already.
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:06 am
Town:
Lime Coke
Enderwiggin
Jackofheats2005
Scotty
Lesser Town:
TonyStarkPrime
ilario
The rest:
Gavial
falcon45ca
Lesser Scum:
Dyson Sphere
One Wolf:
RondoDimBuckle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:45 am
Also Nook/Rondo probably not teamed.
looking at this again, it is really strange for him to out a townread on someone and then make a "not-teamed" read with that same person in the immediate post. if you tr someone it would normally mean they cant be teamed with anybody in the lobby...so i do wonder why he chose those 2 names specifically..
scum says nook town, scum says nook/rondo opposite teams, implication - Rondo Scum. Possibilities A) Rondo Scum, because scum told the truth B) Nanook scum, because scum lied C) Nanook and Rondo both town because scum lied D) Nanook and Rondo both wolves - attempt at deep wolf through 50/50 one must be town
Which do you think is more likely? I lean towards Nanook being scum but I am open to the possibility of both of us being town.
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:55 am
by Gavial
@Jackofhearts2005
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:58 am
by Gavial
^
What Nanook is thinking right now!
(Yeah I know I spoke but I thought this image looked cool)
Should I have explained why sooner.
The reason I’m only posting through images if I have a tension to have a real temper and it drags on allot which I can’t do due to how busy my schedule currently is plus I don’t really wanna deal with all that.
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:11 am
by Gavial
So yeah I’m just using fucking pictures to justify and explain everything which is hard as shit but I guess posting some funny stuff here and there is pretty fun.
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:12 am
by RondoDimBuckle
One pattern I do notice is that Nanook and TSP were on LC and now Nanook and TSP are on Gaviel. Not sure if that is coincidence or not
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:12 am
by Gavial
Oh last thing.
A game I’ll be eventually hosting here will be kinda like what I’m currently doing.
You get a max of 10 Non-Picture posts and then you have to do the rest in Pictures.
“Picture Perfect” gonna be amazing!
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:13 am
by RondoDimBuckle
Ok I am not going to be up for chop today because I cant be fucked. So I need a vote consensus in the next 3 hours
Re: Smilies Mafia - Day 2
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:14 am
by Gavial
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:12 am
One pattern I do notice is that Nanook and TSP were on LC and now Nanook and TSP are on Gaviel. Not sure if that is coincidence or not
Fuck it I’ll speak for a little bit because I don’t think I cleared this up very well with the picture I made.
TSP and Falcon how a Townie mind melt on my role being NAI.
Also I’ve been town reading TSP since the gecko.
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:12 am
One pattern I do notice is that Nanook and TSP were on LC and now Nanook and TSP are on Gaviel. Not sure if that is coincidence or not
Fuck it I’ll speak for a little bit because I don’t think I cleared this up very well with the picture I made.
TSP and Falcon how a Townie mind melt on my role being NAI.
Also I’ve been town reading TSP since the gecko.
But do you think the mindmeld is something they couldn’t have just been saying if one of them was mafia?
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:28 am
Okay, seriously I'm tunnelled here, if anyone wants to bring up a case on someone I'll listen to it. Hell I'll even listen to Nanook if he makes a case.
If you don't I'm going to go to bed with the assumption Nanook will flip and flip red.
whats ur reads outside of nook
Rather than type it all up I'll just quote what I said already.
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:06 am
Town:
Lime Coke
Enderwiggin
Jackofheats2005
Scotty
Lesser Town:
TonyStarkPrime
ilario
The rest:
Gavial
falcon45ca
Lesser Scum:
Dyson Sphere
One Wolf:
RondoDimBuckle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:45 am
Also Nook/Rondo probably not teamed.
looking at this again, it is really strange for him to out a townread on someone and then make a "not-teamed" read with that same person in the immediate post. if you tr someone it would normally mean they cant be teamed with anybody in the lobby...so i do wonder why he chose those 2 names specifically..
scum says nook town, scum says nook/rondo opposite teams, implication - Rondo Scum. Possibilities A) Rondo Scum, because scum told the truth B) Nanook scum, because scum lied C) Nanook and Rondo both town because scum lied D) Nanook and Rondo both wolves - attempt at deep wolf through 50/50 one must be town
Which do you think is more likely? I lean towards Nanook being scum but I am open to the possibility of both of us being town.
Hmmm it’s hard to say off the top of my head because I don’t want to base a whole read on an off-hand comment made by a scum who may have expected to be going down that day. Though gth I would say the timing of Sean calling nook town was probably done In a way to pocket nook after nook had just vocalized a townrrad on Sean. So if I had to pick a scum based on just this one quote from Sean I would probably say you? But I’ve had your posting today to be reasonably towny which might mean it’s option C.
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:28 am
Okay, seriously I'm tunnelled here, if anyone wants to bring up a case on someone I'll listen to it. Hell I'll even listen to Nanook if he makes a case.
If you don't I'm going to go to bed with the assumption Nanook will flip and flip red.
whats ur reads outside of nook
Rather than type it all up I'll just quote what I said already.
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:06 am
Town:
Lime Coke
Enderwiggin
Jackofheats2005
Scotty
Lesser Town:
TonyStarkPrime
ilario
The rest:
Gavial
falcon45ca
Lesser Scum:
Dyson Sphere
One Wolf:
RondoDimBuckle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:45 am
Also Nook/Rondo probably not teamed.
looking at this again, it is really strange for him to out a townread on someone and then make a "not-teamed" read with that same person in the immediate post. if you tr someone it would normally mean they cant be teamed with anybody in the lobby...so i do wonder why he chose those 2 names specifically..
scum says nook town, scum says nook/rondo opposite teams, implication - Rondo Scum. Possibilities A) Rondo Scum, because scum told the truth B) Nanook scum, because scum lied C) Nanook and Rondo both town because scum lied D) Nanook and Rondo both wolves - attempt at deep wolf through 50/50 one must be town
Which do you think is more likely? I lean towards Nanook being scum but I am open to the possibility of both of us being town.
Hmmm it’s hard to say off the top of my head because I don’t want to base a whole read on an off-hand comment made by a scum who may have expected to be going down that day. Though gth I would say the timing of Sean calling nook town was probably done In a way to pocket nook after nook had just vocalized a townrrad on Sean. So if I had to pick a scum based on just this one quote from Sean I would probably say you? But I’ve had your posting today to be reasonably towny which might mean it’s option C.
so if we lean nanook town and me town what does that do to your reads?
