Re: Season 10 Champs Practice Game [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:54 pm
Am I badly misreading the setup ??
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I dont think youve noticed but I have already CCed anyone claiming a role this gamearogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:44 pm Wait, wind, you claim to know the exact setup right? So your “town pr role” must be unique to the “adapt 6”
Meaning ur role would be a “unique town pr” and not a duplicate in other columns.
Which means if no one cc’s u, ur just clear then lol
OK look at the Protect setup columnNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:54 pm...how do you know this?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:26 pmOK well, fine but mafia has a jailkeeper in this game. Have fun with the TMI from me.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:24 pmA) No you're not. I know thisWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:22 pmI'm a town PR, lay off me. I'll get killed anyway.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:19 pmThen why do I have 2 lists and you have 0. I havent even checked your ISO but I know you havent done any actual solving. Just poking. If you want to eat the night kill you have to be town leader. If you want to be town leader you have to rally town with your solving. If you want to rally town, you actually have to do solving. Ergo. This is a lie.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:14 pmI will flip town and I will do my best to eat the night kill in this gameRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:12 pm currently at WWA + Nook + Tutuu
Meaning
Town?
Dennis - Sure, in town range
DrWilgy - Dunno
falcon45ca - Town range but hasnt obv towned yet
Kate - Dont even remember reading any of her posts
Lilypetal - Can be in town range but not feeling it
lucy - Sure, in town range
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon - Maybe the Sabi / Lucy / Neon blow out was just fanned on by tutuu?
Porscha - Hrmmm, obv town? Maybe, Town for now
pyxxy - Town if WWA flips wolf but likely town for making me laugh
RondoDimBuckle - 3p but my wincon can work with town
Sabiplz - see Neon
Seanzie - Town lol
tutuu -
WindwardAway
B) I am voting Nook you're coming next
C) No I will not lay off anyone. Ask anyone who knows me
Both town roles show up in another column thoWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:56 pmOK look at the Protect setup columnNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:54 pm...how do you know this?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:26 pmOK well, fine but mafia has a jailkeeper in this game. Have fun with the TMI from me.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:24 pmA) No you're not. I know thisWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:22 pmI'm a town PR, lay off me. I'll get killed anyway.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:19 pmThen why do I have 2 lists and you have 0. I havent even checked your ISO but I know you havent done any actual solving. Just poking. If you want to eat the night kill you have to be town leader. If you want to be town leader you have to rally town with your solving. If you want to rally town, you actually have to do solving. Ergo. This is a lie.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:14 pm
I will flip town and I will do my best to eat the night kill in this game
B) I am voting Nook you're coming next
C) No I will not lay off anyone. Ask anyone who knows me
Look at the town roles
Look at the scum role
Look at the other columns and tell me if there is a unique role in the Protect column
If your answer is 'no' then you aren't reading correctly.
Yes... Yes you are
Lol, it’s funny bc based on how wind was talking about tuutu, it seemed like to me they could be mafia given how they voted on wind with the sheep vote and with how wind pushed on them prior. But I’m going to look at it more in depth and give my thoughts there.Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:50 pmYour slot looks partnered with Tutuu to me. I voted lucy because the AtE was so excessive I thought it exceeded what she would authentically feel like posting. It felt like she was just performatively AtEing either to ruin thread or distance or mby botharogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:13 pm Hello All! Glad to be here!
I haven’t read much of the game but see my predecessor is in a spot that I am very accustomed to being as well
If the people voting me could respond to this with a tldr of why they sr my slot that would be much appreciated.
I am town and I’ll do my best to get out of this position hehe!
Content was okay up to that point but in retrospect it's p damn pockety
Well fuckNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:57 pmBoth town roles show up in another column thoWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:56 pmOK look at the Protect setup columnNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:54 pm...how do you know this?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:26 pmOK well, fine but mafia has a jailkeeper in this game. Have fun with the TMI from me.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:24 pmA) No you're not. I know thisWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:22 pmI'm a town PR, lay off me. I'll get killed anyway.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:19 pm
Then why do I have 2 lists and you have 0. I havent even checked your ISO but I know you havent done any actual solving. Just poking. If you want to eat the night kill you have to be town leader. If you want to be town leader you have to rally town with your solving. If you want to rally town, you actually have to do solving. Ergo. This is a lie.
B) I am voting Nook you're coming next
C) No I will not lay off anyone. Ask anyone who knows me
Look at the town roles
Look at the scum role
Look at the other columns and tell me if there is a unique role in the Protect column
If your answer is 'no' then you aren't reading correctly.
So unless you're claiming mafia jk you're wrong lmao
then what about nanook sheeping porscha?arogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:50 pm And that might “spew” Seanzie as town if falcon or tuutu is mafia just blindly following seanzie’s vote on u bc they “town read” him and not because they scum read you lol.
Imma look at tuutu later as well.
I mean yeah. I will say my sus of Lucy whenever she AtEs is partially emotional so I know I can be wrong. I think I'm good at reading you (hehe found u as a wolf in that mash) so I'll unvote and let u do ur thing for now out of respectarogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:58 pmLol, it’s funny bc based on how wind was talking about tuutu, it seemed like to me they could be mafia given how they voted on wind with the sheep vote and with how wind pushed on them prior. But I’m going to look at it more in depth and give my thoughts there.Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:50 pmYour slot looks partnered with Tutuu to me. I voted lucy because the AtE was so excessive I thought it exceeded what she would authentically feel like posting. It felt like she was just performatively AtEing either to ruin thread or distance or mby botharogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:13 pm Hello All! Glad to be here!
I haven’t read much of the game but see my predecessor is in a spot that I am very accustomed to being as well
If the people voting me could respond to this with a tldr of why they sr my slot that would be much appreciated.
I am town and I’ll do my best to get out of this position hehe!
Content was okay up to that point but in retrospect it's p damn pockety
And I can see how it’s “pocketty” given the tr on your slot and others like Porscha/Kate lol. I thought it was funny when reading it as well bc it reminds me how I give my townreads. I don’t care how the others think it comes across lol.
And I think your vote on Lucy for the ATE is fair and is something I’ve seen you do to Lucy in the past like the league game, da bois, etc. so that’s a “valid” reason based on AtE. So that’s reasonable to me.
However, given my presence and hopefully what I can bring to the table, are you mailable to changing your mind despite my predecessor’s actions?
Generic "town PR" claims in semi-open setups only go so far. I'll think on it, but right now I don't really believe WindwardAway, and I don't think them self-resolving any time soon is as guaranteed as you say.arogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:44 pm Wait, wind, you claim to know the exact setup right? So your “town pr role” must be unique to the “adapt 6”
Meaning ur role would be a “unique town pr” and not a duplicate in other columns.
Which means if no one cc’s u, ur just clear then lol
Secondarily if you were trying to lie low why would you want to be on main wagon on a wolf?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:23 pm Also, nowhere did I ever say I wanted to rally town?? I was trying to lie low for good reason but if I need to just die in order to be cleared then that works too.
Well if that don't put a whole load of words in my mouth.arogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:47 pm @Seanzie can you talk to me about why you sr wind and why you’d want to kill wind today despite them claiming a town pr?
Letting them self resolve is +ev
When was I on a main wagon on a wolf? Do you know something I don't? Cause if you do, just tell me and I'll vote them out.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:01 pmSecondarily if you were trying to lie low why would you want to be on main wagon on a wolf?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:23 pm Also, nowhere did I ever say I wanted to rally town?? I was trying to lie low for good reason but if I need to just die in order to be cleared then that works too.
lololololNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:56 pm Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too
Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?
Lol, I’m just asking why u sr wind and I saw u voted them. I had assumed wind had claimed pr a while ago and u saw it, but then wind corrected me and explained the situation that she just recently claimed.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:01 pmWell if that don't put a whole load of words in my mouth.arogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:47 pm @Seanzie can you talk to me about why you sr wind and why you’d want to kill wind today despite them claiming a town pr?
Letting them self resolve is +ev
Honestly ill take the shit for that mistake, it's on me, but I claimed jailkeeper up above. I don't know if we have a mafia jailkeeper or roleblocker now, I was trying to cover for the doctor that I assumed we had, since I can't act tonight and mafia would rather kill the doctor first if I had openly claimed jailkeeper, but now that it's clear we don't actually know which setup this is, it doesn't matter so much.arogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:01 pm Lol, you might have to full claim then wind but that’s up to how others feel pending the heat you take in thread I suppose.
But if ur role isn’t a “unique” role then it might be best to full claim it if you’re in danger.
I still think you should self resolve tbh and I don’t read much into the “slip” because misreading is also a thing.
Name one. The setup I'm seeing, every town PR shows up in exactly two columns.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:54 pmThere areSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:53 pmThere uhh... aren't any of those.arogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:44 pm Wait, wind, you claim to know the exact setup right? So your “town pr role” must be unique to the “adapt 6”
Meaning ur role would be a “unique town pr” and not a duplicate in other columns.
Which means if no one cc’s u, ur just clear then lol
I mean am I wrong, that's a slip isn't it?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:03 pmlololololNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:56 pm Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too
Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?
I mean i town read both Nanook and Porscha. Context is key.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:59 pmthen what about nanook sheeping porscha?arogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:50 pm And that might “spew” Seanzie as town if falcon or tuutu is mafia just blindly following seanzie’s vote on u bc they “town read” him and not because they scum read you lol.
Imma look at tuutu later as well.
Can't wait for you guys to vote me out, watch me flip even-night jk, and then flip a roleblocker because of my own stupidityNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:07 pmI mean am I wrong, that's a slip isn't it?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:03 pmlololololNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:56 pm Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too
Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?
So.... let me recap....WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:02 pmWhen was I on a main wagon on a wolf? Do you know something I don't? Cause if you do, just tell me and I'll vote them out.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:01 pmSecondarily if you were trying to lie low why would you want to be on main wagon on a wolf?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:23 pm Also, nowhere did I ever say I wanted to rally town?? I was trying to lie low for good reason but if I need to just die in order to be cleared then that works too.
Nook is not a main wagon, though?? Also you say Nook is a wolf but if you're town then you still have a chance at being wrongRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:09 pmSo.... let me recap....WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:02 pmWhen was I on a main wagon on a wolf? Do you know something I don't? Cause if you do, just tell me and I'll vote them out.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:01 pmSecondarily if you were trying to lie low why would you want to be on main wagon on a wolf?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:23 pm Also, nowhere did I ever say I wanted to rally town?? I was trying to lie low for good reason but if I need to just die in order to be cleared then that works too.
You thought Rondo is town
You see Rondo voting Nook wolf
You join Rondo town because Nook wolf
Now you are telling me you want to lie low
You say Nook is not wolf?
I am just interested why you think its a scum slip and not a town slip? Why could I not be lying about my claim?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:07 pmI mean am I wrong, that's a slip isn't it?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:03 pmlololololNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:56 pm Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too
Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?
I mean I could see how they misread it. But given their claim, I’m just going to wait out and see if there are any cc’s or not.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:07 pmI mean am I wrong, that's a slip isn't it?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:03 pmlololololNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:56 pm Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too
Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?
weird that it looks towny and not scum that is opportunistic when you are a power role and nook is someone you scum read with me just moments ago?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:11 pmNook is not a main wagon, though?? Also you say Nook is a wolf but if you're town then you still have a chance at being wrongRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:09 pmSo.... let me recap....WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:02 pmWhen was I on a main wagon on a wolf? Do you know something I don't? Cause if you do, just tell me and I'll vote them out.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:01 pmSecondarily if you were trying to lie low why would you want to be on main wagon on a wolf?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:23 pm Also, nowhere did I ever say I wanted to rally town?? I was trying to lie low for good reason but if I need to just die in order to be cleared then that works too.
You thought Rondo is town
You see Rondo voting Nook wolf
You join Rondo town because Nook wolf
Now you are telling me you want to lie low
You say Nook is not wolf?
Cause Nook's gotcha on me actually looks towny and I'm not going to explain why
I believe this tbh.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:10 pm Well I guess I'll just stay out of the thread and go to sleep, I have no defense for this because I legit did not scroll to the right
Meh, at least it doesn’t kill a pr but still bad.
Because your claim is CC'able by a single role and I don't think it benefits a wolf to go 1-1 like this with a town PR.
Why would that ever be a town slip from me? I didn't say "we are in protect because I'm a jailkeeper", I said "mafia has a jailkeeper" which implies I'm confident that mafia has a jailkeeper and only a jailkeeper. That would be a scum slip if mafia does, in fact, have a jailkeeper. If I only said "I think we are in the protect setup where mafia has a jailkeeper" then yeah it could imply I'm either a doctor or jailkeeper. But I didn't say that, because I'm an idiot and I don't think about wording before I open my mouth.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:11 pmI am just interested why you think its a scum slip and not a town slip? Why could I not be lying about my claim?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:07 pmI mean am I wrong, that's a slip isn't it?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:03 pmlololololNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:56 pm Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too
Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?
I'm pretty sure Rondo already cc'd me but I think he's townSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:14 pmBecause your claim is CC'able by a single role and I don't think it benefits a wolf to go 1-1 like this with a town PR.
In particular IF ANYONE is a town PR that is NOT Odd night doc or 2-shot roleblocker, you can CC WindwardAway.
You, Nook and Wilgy are the only people on my mind right now. Your slot both has super high wolf equity, and also should give some spew, so your slot is not a bad chop.arogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:13 pmMeh, at least it doesn’t kill a pr but still bad.
You really are new to Mafia arent you?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:14 pmWhy would that ever be a town slip from me? I didn't say "we are in protect because I'm a jailkeeper", I said "mafia has a jailkeeper" which implies I'm confident that mafia has a jailkeeper and only a jailkeeper. That would be a scum slip if mafia does, in fact, have a jailkeeper. If I only said "I think we are in the protect setup where mafia has a jailkeeper" then yeah it could imply I'm either a doctor or jailkeeper. But I didn't say that, because I'm an idiot and I don't think about wording before I open my mouth.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:11 pmI am just interested why you think its a scum slip and not a town slip? Why could I not be lying about my claim?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:07 pmI mean am I wrong, that's a slip isn't it?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:03 pmlololololNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:56 pm Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too
Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?
Someone CC'ing an unclaimed PR as an unclaimed PR does nothing for me.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:15 pmI'm pretty sure Rondo already cc'd me but I think he's townSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:14 pmBecause your claim is CC'able by a single role and I don't think it benefits a wolf to go 1-1 like this with a town PR.
In particular IF ANYONE is a town PR that is NOT Odd night doc or 2-shot roleblocker, you can CC WindwardAway.
I did CC you but I always CC everyone soooooo its probably a lieWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:15 pmI'm pretty sure Rondo already cc'd me but I think he's townSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:14 pmBecause your claim is CC'able by a single role and I don't think it benefits a wolf to go 1-1 like this with a town PR.
In particular IF ANYONE is a town PR that is NOT Odd night doc or 2-shot roleblocker, you can CC WindwardAway.
Can u explain Wilgy for me?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:15 pmYou, Nook and Wilgy are the only people on my mind right now. Your slot both has super high wolf equity, and also should give some spew, so your slot is not a bad chop.arogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:13 pmMeh, at least it doesn’t kill a pr but still bad.
I'm notRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:15 pmYou really are new to Mafia arent you?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:14 pmWhy would that ever be a town slip from me? I didn't say "we are in protect because I'm a jailkeeper", I said "mafia has a jailkeeper" which implies I'm confident that mafia has a jailkeeper and only a jailkeeper. That would be a scum slip if mafia does, in fact, have a jailkeeper. If I only said "I think we are in the protect setup where mafia has a jailkeeper" then yeah it could imply I'm either a doctor or jailkeeper. But I didn't say that, because I'm an idiot and I don't think about wording before I open my mouth.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:11 pmI am just interested why you think its a scum slip and not a town slip? Why could I not be lying about my claim?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:07 pmI mean am I wrong, that's a slip isn't it?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:03 pmlololololNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:56 pm Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too
Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?
I think I said that earlier too, that if your slot + neon (and maybe even tutuu) were town then likely the scum were letting most of the drama unfold without lifting a fingerarogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:15 pm I am getting a feeling, but I believe wind tbh and fully think they are actually town and the way they talked about it seems townie to me and not a way how mafia fakes it given the last setup is on the right and how I’m on mobile too.
I believe that rondo is leaning town and have nook as town. If Seanzie is town, I’m afraid this is a “mafia laid back game” where the mafia are essentially just knawing at these player’s scum reads on town and just hop on it opportunistically.
That’s my gut feeling based on the vibe in this thread ngl.
I don't know how it will change my view, but Lucy was a hot topic of conversation, and I'm sure there is some info that one could gleam after knowing your alignment from those conversations. I'm not going to do the work now, I actually am way over quota for today and need to not be playing mafia anymore today.arogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:17 pmCan u explain Wilgy for me?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:15 pmYou, Nook and Wilgy are the only people on my mind right now. Your slot both has super high wolf equity, and also should give some spew, so your slot is not a bad chop.arogame123 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:13 pmMeh, at least it doesn’t kill a pr but still bad.
And why Nook as well?
also, when I flip town, what “spew” does my slot give that will help you? I’d be interested to hear how it changes ur view of the game.
Can you stop talking to me like I believe your perception is the unwaveringly correct answer to all of life's problems? Thanks.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:07 pmWhy do you want to flip a town slot by pinging a wolf?