The Syndicate

Congrats Boomer!! That was wholly unexpected despite you basically saying it to my face. Paraphrasing: Lynch votes would benefit a suicidal role
Way to manipulate the votes, man!!

Epignosis wrote: No madam.

I am bored because:

1. I was killed Night 1 and brought back. I have no need to defend myself. Which means I may die at any moment.

2. I have no suspicion on anyone given the nature of this game.

3. Replacements should be lynched, given that from my experience, such people replace bad guys.

From my experience, I would say #3 is usually the exact opposite. I've replaced into many games before, and only once was it with a baddie team.

(I'm basing this off of games I had already been in, died, and came back as a replacement. So it might not be the strongest sample size.)

It's just not something I see being very common. I think if it happens too much, it can give the baddies an advantage. Especially if it's civvies who were NKed.

I don't know my thoughts really.

Epi, replacements replace anyone. Not just baddies. At basically a rate normal with initially getting the role. Not sure why your experience led you to believe otherwise.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:I don't know my thoughts really.

Epi, replacements replace anyone. Not just baddies. At basically a rate normal with initially getting the role. Not sure why your experience led you to believe otherwise.

Perhaps his teammate was replaced...

Epignosis wrote:
No madam.

I am bored because:

1. I was killed Night 1 and brought back. I have no need to defend myself. Which means I may die at any moment.

2. I have no suspicion on anyone given the nature of this game.

3. Replacements should be lynched, given that from my experience, such people replace bad guys.

two and three contradict one another, don't they?

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:I don't know my thoughts really.

Epi, replacements replace anyone. Not just baddies. At basically a rate normal with initially getting the role. Not sure why your experience led you to believe otherwise.

As a replacement, I obviously have strong personal feelings against Epi's 3rd point. I also agree with the objections DP and Elo raised about it from a theoretical perspective.

I went through the polls and did a little tabulating to see how the patterns are forming. Some interesting stuff here for sure.

Hedge1 = hedge voted Day 1 for example
A Person - inh6 (1)
birdwithteeth11 -hedge 2 (1)
Boomslang -- Tofu Boy -- Lynched - Day 6 -- WINNER - epi4, llama5, devin5, elo5, mong(2.0)5, mata5, lizzy6, devin6, mong(2.0)6, elo6, mata6, ap6, bwt6, hedge6, dp6 (15)
Devin the Omniscient - jig1, nev1, hedge1, jig2, jig3, jig4 (6)
DisgruntledPorcupine - russti3 (1)
Elohcin - russti6, inh6 (2)
Epignosis -- Killed by Lil' Slugger - Night 1 -- Resurrected - Night 2 - no votes
Hedgeowl - llama2, lizzy2, elo2, mr2 (4)
insertnamehere - llama1, llama3, mr3 (3)
Jigsaw - devin1, devin2, devin3, devin4, llama4, elohcin4, mata4, boom6 (8)
Lizzy - lizzy1, nev3, epi3, lizzy4, mr5 (5)
Matahari -- [Replaced Dom - Night 2] - no votes
Mister Rearranger -- [Replaced wrathofgod - Day 2] - lizzy3, ap3, lizzy5, vomps5, ap5 (5)
Mongoose -- Pink Knight -- Killed by C.H.A.D. - Night 2 - vomps1, nev2
Mongoose 2.0 -- [Replaced Rose - Day 5] -- [Replaced Flyin' High - Day 2] - no votes
Nevinera -- Killed by C.H.A.D. - Night 3 - inh1
Russtifinko -- [Replaced Degobunny - Night 2] - no votes
thellama73 -- Goo Ball -- Lynched - Day 5 - ap1, epi1, elo1, bwt2, inh2, dp2, elo3, mata3, bwt3, dp3, boom4, russti4, hedge4, boom5, hedge5 (16)
Vompatti - mongoose1, vomps2, vomps3, epi5, vomps6, russti6 (6)

I need to look at this more, but currently not feeling great about DP. Need to reread him and looking at AP as well this time.

Well shucks. Maybe you fellas are right after all about #3. That notion sure was a stretch. What was I even thinking, bringing up such a thing?

Wouldn't it be weird, though, if I brought it up to see who'd react to it and how?

The llama gambit

Dun dun DAAAHHHH!!!!!

Devin the Omniscient wrote:The llama gambit

Dun dun DAAAHHHH!!!!!

That is not the llama gambit, I'll have you know. I fish for reactions all the time.

thellama73 wrote:Now that all the votes have been cast, I can reveal the patented "Llama Gambit."

Knowing that most of the time baddies try to act helpful and logical to blend in with the civvies, I decided to act crazy and illogical. A baddie would have to be nuts to act the way I've been acting, and I was counting on the civs realizing that. Therefore, civs would be unlikely to vote for me, but baddies would see an opportunity. They could vote for a civ and when my affiliation is revealed excuse themselevs by saying "well, he was acting really crazy."

However, by revealing my strategy in the thread, one of two things will happen: Either I get lynched, in which case the civvies have good info on who the baddies are based on who voted for me, or I survive and still have good info based on the votes for me. Either way, my team is aided substantially towards victory.

This is the "Llama Gambit." I hope you are sa impressed with it as I was when I came up with it.

Epignosis wrote:Well shucks. Maybe you fellas are right after all about #3. That notion sure was a stretch. What was I even thinking, bringing up such a thing?

Wouldn't it be weird, though, if I brought it up to see who'd react to it and how?

Less weird than the theory I had where you had worded it poorly, despite being an English teacher.

A Person wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Well shucks. Maybe you fellas are right after all about #3. That notion sure was a stretch. What was I even thinking, bringing up such a thing?

Wouldn't it be weird, though, if I brought it up to see who'd react to it and how?

Less weird than the theory I had where you had worded it poorly, despite being an English teacher.

How so?

Epignosis wrote:

A Person wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Well shucks. Maybe you fellas are right after all about #3. That notion sure was a stretch. What was I even thinking, bringing up such a thing?

Wouldn't it be weird, though, if I brought it up to see who'd react to it and how?

Less weird than the theory I had where you had worded it poorly, despite being an English teacher.

How so?

I assumed #3 was you saying that we shouldn't excuse replacements, it seemed more logical than just lynching them because they're replacements.

A Person wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

A Person wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Well shucks. Maybe you fellas are right after all about #3. That notion sure was a stretch. What was I even thinking, bringing up such a thing?

Wouldn't it be weird, though, if I brought it up to see who'd react to it and how?

Less weird than the theory I had where you had worded it poorly, despite being an English teacher.

How so?

I assumed #3 was you saying that we shouldn't excuse replacements, it seemed more logical than just lynching them because they're replacements.

Nah, I meant what I said there.

But I don't necessarily mean what I said there.

2+2=5

Epignosis wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote:The llama gambit

Dun dun DAAAHHHH!!!!!

That is not the llama gambit, I'll have you know. I fish for reactions all the time.

thellama73 wrote:Now that all the votes have been cast, I can reveal the patented "Llama Gambit."

Knowing that most of the time baddies try to act helpful and logical to blend in with the civvies, I decided to act crazy and illogical. A baddie would have to be nuts to act the way I've been acting, and I was counting on the civs realizing that. Therefore, civs would be unlikely to vote for me, but baddies would see an opportunity. They could vote for a civ and when my affiliation is revealed excuse themselevs by saying "well, he was acting really crazy."

However, by revealing my strategy in the thread, one of two things will happen: Either I get lynched, in which case the civvies have good info on who the baddies are based on who voted for me, or I survive and still have good info based on the votes for me. Either way, my team is aided substantially towards victory.

This is the "Llama Gambit." I hope you are sa impressed with it as I was when I came up with it.

Affect/Effect

MovingPictures07 wrote: I know a certain someone who would love to replace back into the game.

Heh heh, I wonder who that could be.

Since the only thing dying here is the thread, who wants to join me in creating some chaos - all in the loving memory of Llama man?

I'm here, just doing some light reading.

omgkogmo this is so exciting i don't eveneen know where to start k

ho this looks like a good idea

My vote will likely be going to either birdwithteeth11 or DisgruntledPorcupine. They are the two that jumped highest when I posted.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:From my experience, I would say #3 is usually the exact opposite. I've replaced into many games before, and only once was it with a baddie team.

(I'm basing this off of games I had already been in, died, and came back as a replacement. So it might not be the strongest sample size.)

It's just not something I see being very common. I think if it happens too much, it can give the baddies an advantage. Especially if it's civvies who were NKed.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:I don't know my thoughts really.

Epi, replacements replace anyone. Not just baddies. At basically a rate normal with initially getting the role. Not sure why your experience led you to believe otherwise.

Where it gets interesting is that they've BOTH missed three out of six votes...the same Day periods: 1, 4, & 5.

And when they do vote:

thellama73
3
birdwithteeth11 (4), insertnamehere (8), DisgruntledPorcupine (11) 23%

thellama73
5
Elohcin (5), Matahari (8), Boomslang (9), birdwithteeth11 (10), DisgruntledPorcupine (12)
29%

Boomslang
9
Lizzy (6), Devin the Omniscient (7), Mongoose (8), Elohcin (9), Matahari (10), A Person (11), birdwithteeth11 (12), Hedgeowl (13),
DisgruntledPorcupine (14) 64%

In sum, when they don't vote, it's together, and when they do vote, it's together, and always for a civilian. Six Day periods. God rested after that, folks.

Now does that strike you as a fantastic coincidence or is just me?

What's the protocol on voting DP, since he is going to be replaced?

Mongoose wrote:What's the protocol on voting DP, since he is going to be replaced?

Hasn't been replaced yet. He's on the poll. Looks like fair game for today.

The quicker we vote, the less work MP has to do

It does look like an interesting pattern, butt would they really be that obvious? I know when I was bad I tried my best not to vote for the same people my teammates did; or I rarely hesitated to throw on or two under the bus for credibility, so it was not only about lynching civs. This is why I rarely take votes into consideration. But then again, maybe not many play like that, and this might just be the case. They do look suspicious, but for the same reason the two of them always do. I sometimes don't even realise DP is playing. I dunno k, butt I see my buddy has disappeared yet again from the poll, along with another sneaky one and Russti.

Matt - TURE :A

Elohcin wrote:I'm never buying boxed hot chocolate again. This homemade hot chocolate is amazing!

Best I ever tasted.

Elohcin wrote:I'm never buying boxed hot chocolate again. This homemade hot chocolate is amazing!

Was the heat homemade, or the chocolate, or both?

Lizzy - I am chaos'd out.

Epi - Okay, that makes sense. I am not sure my vote will lie with him, but I remember he said something that gave me the pricklies earlier in the game.

Matt - It does seem a good prospective auto-corrective feature.

Eloh - More info please Was cream used? Did the kiddies love it?

Vomps - Hi! Also, you're a weirdo (with a beardo).

Linki Llama - INAPPROPRIATE

Mongoose wrote: Epi - Okay, that makes sense. I am not sure my vote will lie with him, but I remember he said something that gave me the pricklies earlier in the game.

Of course not, since you're his teammate.

Epignosis wrote:

Mongoose wrote: Epi - Okay, that makes sense. I am not sure my vote will lie with him, but I remember he said something that gave me the pricklies earlier in the game.

Of course not, since you're his teammate.

Indeed! We are the best teammates ever!

These are the things we've done together:

* 3-legged race

* Tug o' War

* Tandem Pie-Eating Contest

* Tennis Doubles

* Suspended Rope Climbing Contest

* and more.

Mongoose wrote: * and more.

Do tell.

Double dutch contest, campfire-starting event, sugar glider naming contest, and planking championship.

A vote has been cast for DP.

Epignosis wrote:A vote has been cast for DP.

For what reasons?

Elohcin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:A vote has been cast for DP.

For what reasons?

This isn't the hot chocolate thread. I posted why.

Epignosis wrote:

Elohcin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:A vote has been cast for DP.

For what reasons?

This isn't the hot chocolate thread. I posted why.

Sorry, I totally missed that somehow. I don't know how...it's not like it was a short post. And, I think I agree with you about the two you suspect (BWT and DP) and their defensive reactions to your post. I will take the night to think about it and decide who to vote in the morning as I will be done when the poll ends.

Now I must get some sleep. I cannot believe I am still up. I will regret this at 2:30 when my daughter needs to pee and 4:30 when my son wants to nurse, and 6:00 when my other son decides to turn on his Yo Gabba Gabba music. Goodnight.

Well this is fun, I am replacing in to someone who is currently having votes thrown at them! I fear my second incarnation may be short lived.

The funny thing is, Rob's analysis is excellent and I would have totally gone along with it if I had not learned, just a couple of seconds ago when I got my new role PM, that it is completely wrong.

Don't kill me again, please! I want to live!

Oh, I see that only one vote has actually been thrown at me so far today, so that is not too bad. I would urge others not to follow Rob's lead.

thellama73 wrote:The funny thing is, Rob's analysis is excellent and I would have totally gone along with it if I had not learned, just a couple of seconds ago when I got my new role PM, that it is completely wrong.

That's exactly what a baddie would say

I have to vote now. I am going to vote BWT for his defensive response to Epi's post.