Re: BEANS MAFIA - Night 1
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:00 pm
I guess there's also the possibility of a tailor? But why would they target me of all people? Scotty was more likely to be cop checked so what gives?
Incredibly based☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:39 pm Anyways I have a red on Leetic so merk them so I can die tonight and be showered with praise in dvc
Looking at Princess Abigail, we probably have our answer. But to be fair, Seanzie did seem to be more unanimously townread, there was quite a bit of tinfoil on me at EoD. That, or scum felt that I was being a useful idiot for them
Sleep is overrated anyway. Well, unless I have a dream that reveals the mafia to me. I've actually had that happen but it's usually been wrong.
Raise your hand if leetic gave you that kind of leeway.Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:03 pmI have read the new posts, and I do not find them substantive at all. More fluff and waffles.leetic wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:00 pmMy problem here is that you're entirely focused on pyxxy's older posts when their newer ones are much more substantive. Then again you probably haven't read the whole thread but stillLong Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:51 pm I'm going to [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine. Still feel like the psypsypsythe thing was "busy work", as Thunal(?) put it, and... did that 'research' actually happen? Third-highest poster, but there's a lot of fluff involved, I don't even know what the geese thing is, this is Beans Mafia, not Geese Mafia. Is leetic Canadian, is that what that's about?
I'm just here to make life easier NookNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:00 pmIncredibly based☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:39 pm Anyways I have a red on Leetic so merk them so I can die tonight and be showered with praise in dvc
Agreed on this. Kinda impressed by Seanzie choosing to shoot.
Yeah sorry about that, I looked away and got lost in work. If I had been around I would have suggested a Wilgy wagon. I think he slanked through D1. I was hoping to see something more. The low posting reminded me of his scum play in Apathy Mafia: viewtopic.php?p=1049145#p1049145leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:38 pmOh, and @pyxxy was on Wilgy (I'm too used to the polls being preserved as a screenshot, hence why I missed it). That does seem by far the strangest of the vanity wagons today, and pyxxy should definitely explain why they avoided the wagons. They were here 38 minutes before EoD, enough to know that it would definitely be a vanity wagonleetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:20 pm Long Con and Jack did try to make pyxxy happen. Given that LP/Scotty was t/t and thus a comfortable EoD for wolves I am willing to give town points to both for trying to start an alternative, which would have been unnecessary for wolves.
Besides that, we have Epi and Roxy on vanity wagons. The former didn't show for EoD, so there's little to be gleaned there. Roxy voted at almost the last minute, which does seem a little unnecessary as scum but I'm still not entirely sure what to make of it
When I flip town, what will you think of Abigail?Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:03 pm If leetic is bad, LC is the teammate:
Raise your hand if leetic gave you that kind of leeway.Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:03 pmI have read the new posts, and I do not find them substantive at all. More fluff and waffles.leetic wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:00 pmMy problem here is that you're entirely focused on pyxxy's older posts when their newer ones are much more substantive. Then again you probably haven't read the whole thread but stillLong Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:51 pm I'm going to [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine. Still feel like the psypsypsythe thing was "busy work", as Thunal(?) put it, and... did that 'research' actually happen? Third-highest poster, but there's a lot of fluff involved, I don't even know what the geese thing is, this is Beans Mafia, not Geese Mafia. Is leetic Canadian, is that what that's about?
You know, it's really weird how you are seemingly ignorant of the elephant in the room herepyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:04 pmAgreed on this. Kinda impressed by Seanzie choosing to shoot.
Yeah sorry about that, I looked away and got lost in work. If I had been around I would have suggested a Wilgy wagon. I think he slanked through D1. I was hoping to see something more. The low posting reminded me of his scum play in Apathy Mafia: viewtopic.php?p=1049145#p1049145leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:38 pmOh, and @pyxxy was on Wilgy (I'm too used to the polls being preserved as a screenshot, hence why I missed it). That does seem by far the strangest of the vanity wagons today, and pyxxy should definitely explain why they avoided the wagons. They were here 38 minutes before EoD, enough to know that it would definitely be a vanity wagonleetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:20 pm Long Con and Jack did try to make pyxxy happen. Given that LP/Scotty was t/t and thus a comfortable EoD for wolves I am willing to give town points to both for trying to start an alternative, which would have been unnecessary for wolves.
Besides that, we have Epi and Roxy on vanity wagons. The former didn't show for EoD, so there's little to be gleaned there. Roxy voted at almost the last minute, which does seem a little unnecessary as scum but I'm still not entirely sure what to make of it
Difference that I see is that past scum Wilgy was down to toss teammate Porscha right in front of the bus. Here, we now know there wasn't real pressure on any wolves? Probably? Tell me if there was a real alternative to LP and Scotty that I missed. But no Wilgy popping in feels very much like "gj scummates, see y'all tomorrow /s".
see y'all around I'm eating sushi
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:05 pmWhen I flip town, what will you think of Abigail?Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:03 pm If leetic is bad, LC is the teammate:
Raise your hand if leetic gave you that kind of leeway.Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:03 pmI have read the new posts, and I do not find them substantive at all. More fluff and waffles.leetic wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:00 pmMy problem here is that you're entirely focused on pyxxy's older posts when their newer ones are much more substantive. Then again you probably haven't read the whole thread but stillLong Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:51 pm I'm going to [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine. Still feel like the psypsypsythe thing was "busy work", as Thunal(?) put it, and... did that 'research' actually happen? Third-highest poster, but there's a lot of fluff involved, I don't even know what the geese thing is, this is Beans Mafia, not Geese Mafia. Is leetic Canadian, is that what that's about?
Right? This is a way easier way to play, frankly. Put an elephant in the room and see what happens.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:47 pmI don't know.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:46 pm If PA is mafia, then claiming cop when they are well aware of a potential CC is a very bad idea unless they want to get rid of the town cop that much. Maybe they're a jester, but are those really common in this day and age? Town gambit is most likely, but keep in mind that this is a very very bad idea and there are a million ways that this can go wrong.
I'm kind of having fun again all of a sudden.
If Abigail is actually a cop, and this does turn out to be a frame job, don't look at the people actively pursuing me but the ones just watching it happen. In this kind of situation, wolves just sit back and relax as town eats itself up
This person gets itLong Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:07 pmRight? This is a way easier way to play, frankly. Put an elephant in the room and see what happens.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:47 pmI don't know.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:46 pm If PA is mafia, then claiming cop when they are well aware of a potential CC is a very bad idea unless they want to get rid of the town cop that much. Maybe they're a jester, but are those really common in this day and age? Town gambit is most likely, but keep in mind that this is a very very bad idea and there are a million ways that this can go wrong.
I'm kind of having fun again all of a sudden.
Leetic, why would you counter-claim a Scotty check? Before I caught up to the rescind, I thought it was just incredulous that it *happened* to be the dead guy, like, how convenient, right? Why would you go that way, this is looking meltdowny.
Leetic: "your play is dangerous because it might out the real cop"☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:07 pm I think my favorite thing is the tripping over feet to simultaneously try to shade me and call my claim obviously fake
While also openly acknowledging that it is in fact not obviously fake by speculating about "the real cop"
Mmm this translates to "when I flip wolf it was totally a fake red"
I CC'd to try to get Abigail to back down. I did not want the actual cop (if one exists) to CC. The biggest problem with town gambits where they fakeclaim cop is that they will often cause PRs to be outed, and since we already lost two we do not want that to happenLong Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:07 pmRight? This is a way easier way to play, frankly. Put an elephant in the room and see what happens.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:47 pmI don't know.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:46 pm If PA is mafia, then claiming cop when they are well aware of a potential CC is a very bad idea unless they want to get rid of the town cop that much. Maybe they're a jester, but are those really common in this day and age? Town gambit is most likely, but keep in mind that this is a very very bad idea and there are a million ways that this can go wrong.
I'm kind of having fun again all of a sudden.
Leetic, why would you counter-claim a Scotty check? Before I caught up to the rescind, I thought it was just incredulous that it *happened* to be the dead guy, like, how convenient, right? Why would you go that way, this is looking meltdowny.
aaaaaaaaa if this was right and I handwaved it away I'll be annoyed lol. I literally was just thinking about how this is a tell before the game started.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:37 pmThis static read makes me paranoid of Leetic. It’s like everything LP does is wolfy and leetic keeps updating the wolfread for different reasons. Ime that’s >rand wolf behavior.leetic wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:16 pmThis is basically the wolfiest response imaginable. It's basically an admission of "Yeah, I'm outed, now let me just throw shit at the wall and leave"LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:05 pmAll I can really do for my last post is point out that this is a Mafia.
I just said I don't have time to read through everything or even know what I'm being pushed on. And here you are trying to twist facts and say I have this knowledge.
This combined with all your posts I read early in the day being performative useless fluff. I don't think I have seen someone open wolfing this hard in a while and I hope a Vigilante exists and they can recognize this.
I was hypothetically offended at that post, since you bring it up. I don't know why leetic would assume that of me.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:03 pm If leetic is bad, LC is the teammate:
Raise your hand if leetic gave you that kind of leeway.Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:03 pmI have read the new posts, and I do not find them substantive at all. More fluff and waffles.leetic wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:00 pmMy problem here is that you're entirely focused on pyxxy's older posts when their newer ones are much more substantive. Then again you probably haven't read the whole thread but stillLong Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:51 pm I'm going to [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine. Still feel like the psypsypsythe thing was "busy work", as Thunal(?) put it, and... did that 'research' actually happen? Third-highest poster, but there's a lot of fluff involved, I don't even know what the geese thing is, this is Beans Mafia, not Geese Mafia. Is leetic Canadian, is that what that's about?
How are those contradictory statements? I rescinded the claim but an actual cop would have every right to be pissed off by this.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:08 pmLeetic: "your play is dangerous because it might out the real cop"☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:07 pm I think my favorite thing is the tripping over feet to simultaneously try to shade me and call my claim obviously fake
While also openly acknowledging that it is in fact not obviously fake by speculating about "the real cop"
Also leetic: "I claim cop"
Yeah, I'm comfortable calling Leetic mafia.
When you get back, is your cop gated/limited in any way? like odd night or 2 shot or anything like that?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:09 pm Okay I'm gonna go give my girlfriend all my attention
Leetic/Long Con/+1
No cap.
I don't understand the point of a gambit like this, how can this be a gambit? Random hope?leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:09 pmI CC'd to try to get Abigail to back down. I did not want the actual cop (if one exists) to CC. The biggest problem with town gambits where they fakeclaim cop is that they will often cause PRs to be outed, and since we already lost two we do not want that to happenLong Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:07 pmRight? This is a way easier way to play, frankly. Put an elephant in the room and see what happens.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:47 pmI don't know.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:46 pm If PA is mafia, then claiming cop when they are well aware of a potential CC is a very bad idea unless they want to get rid of the town cop that much. Maybe they're a jester, but are those really common in this day and age? Town gambit is most likely, but keep in mind that this is a very very bad idea and there are a million ways that this can go wrong.
I'm kind of having fun again all of a sudden.
Leetic, why would you counter-claim a Scotty check? Before I caught up to the rescind, I thought it was just incredulous that it *happened* to be the dead guy, like, how convenient, right? Why would you go that way, this is looking meltdowny.
My meaning here is that leetic won't give me twelve seconds to read the thread before asking me a question about a person but here gives you a convenient out.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:12 pmI was hypothetically offended at that post, since you bring it up. I don't know why leetic would assume that of me.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:03 pm If leetic is bad, LC is the teammate:
Raise your hand if leetic gave you that kind of leeway.Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:03 pmI have read the new posts, and I do not find them substantive at all. More fluff and waffles.leetic wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:00 pmMy problem here is that you're entirely focused on pyxxy's older posts when their newer ones are much more substantive. Then again you probably haven't read the whole thread but stillLong Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:51 pm I'm going to [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine. Still feel like the psypsypsythe thing was "busy work", as Thunal(?) put it, and... did that 'research' actually happen? Third-highest poster, but there's a lot of fluff involved, I don't even know what the geese thing is, this is Beans Mafia, not Geese Mafia. Is leetic Canadian, is that what that's about?
In theory, to get town to hammer someone you think is town. In practice, there is no good reason to be doing this but people do this anyway.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:13 pmI don't understand the point of a gambit like this, how can this be a gambit? Random hope?leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:09 pmI CC'd to try to get Abigail to back down. I did not want the actual cop (if one exists) to CC. The biggest problem with town gambits where they fakeclaim cop is that they will often cause PRs to be outed, and since we already lost two we do not want that to happenLong Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:07 pmRight? This is a way easier way to play, frankly. Put an elephant in the room and see what happens.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:47 pmI don't know.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:46 pm If PA is mafia, then claiming cop when they are well aware of a potential CC is a very bad idea unless they want to get rid of the town cop that much. Maybe they're a jester, but are those really common in this day and age? Town gambit is most likely, but keep in mind that this is a very very bad idea and there are a million ways that this can go wrong.
I'm kind of having fun again all of a sudden.
Leetic, why would you counter-claim a Scotty check? Before I caught up to the rescind, I thought it was just incredulous that it *happened* to be the dead guy, like, how convenient, right? Why would you go that way, this is looking meltdowny.
That's not cool please.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:09 pm Okay I'm gonna go give my girlfriend all my attention
Leetic/Long Con/+1
No cap.
Did you say that wrong? If you are positioning Abi as 'misguided Town' then don't you mean "to get town to hammer someone you think is wolf"?leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:15 pmIn theory, to get town to hammer someone you think is town. In practice, there is no good reason to be doing this but people do this anyway.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:13 pmI don't understand the point of a gambit like this, how can this be a gambit? Random hope?leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:09 pmI CC'd to try to get Abigail to back down. I did not want the actual cop (if one exists) to CC. The biggest problem with town gambits where they fakeclaim cop is that they will often cause PRs to be outed, and since we already lost two we do not want that to happenLong Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:07 pmRight? This is a way easier way to play, frankly. Put an elephant in the room and see what happens.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:47 pmI don't know.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:46 pm If PA is mafia, then claiming cop when they are well aware of a potential CC is a very bad idea unless they want to get rid of the town cop that much. Maybe they're a jester, but are those really common in this day and age? Town gambit is most likely, but keep in mind that this is a very very bad idea and there are a million ways that this can go wrong.
I'm kind of having fun again all of a sudden.
Leetic, why would you counter-claim a Scotty check? Before I caught up to the rescind, I thought it was just incredulous that it *happened* to be the dead guy, like, how convenient, right? Why would you go that way, this is looking meltdowny.
Yeah, sorry ADHDLong Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:16 pmDid you say that wrong? If you are positioning Abi as 'misguided Town' then don't you mean "to get town to hammer someone you think is wolf"?leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:15 pmIn theory, to get town to hammer someone you think is town. In practice, there is no good reason to be doing this but people do this anyway.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:13 pmI don't understand the point of a gambit like this, how can this be a gambit? Random hope?leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:09 pmI CC'd to try to get Abigail to back down. I did not want the actual cop (if one exists) to CC. The biggest problem with town gambits where they fakeclaim cop is that they will often cause PRs to be outed, and since we already lost two we do not want that to happenLong Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:07 pmRight? This is a way easier way to play, frankly. Put an elephant in the room and see what happens.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:47 pmI don't know.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:46 pm If PA is mafia, then claiming cop when they are well aware of a potential CC is a very bad idea unless they want to get rid of the town cop that much. Maybe they're a jester, but are those really common in this day and age? Town gambit is most likely, but keep in mind that this is a very very bad idea and there are a million ways that this can go wrong.
I'm kind of having fun again all of a sudden.
Leetic, why would you counter-claim a Scotty check? Before I caught up to the rescind, I thought it was just incredulous that it *happened* to be the dead guy, like, how convenient, right? Why would you go that way, this is looking meltdowny.
Unless there is a tailor in this setup, or there are bastard hidden millers, then you did not get a red check on me. That is clear.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:07 pm I think my favorite thing is the tripping over feet to simultaneously try to shade me and call my claim obviously fake
While also openly acknowledging that it is in fact not obviously fake by speculating about "the real cop"
My perspective is perhaps biased because I played in a game where someone did exactlly that. https://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vb ... p?t=151853 See Mikey (flashflaash account) on D2 (would be considered D3 in this site's parlance)
The funny thing in that game is he actually fake redchecked a wolf, but they knew it was bullshit because of both the setup and the fact that the wolf was a godfatherleetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:28 pmMy perspective is perhaps biased because I played in a game where someone did exactlly that. https://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vb ... p?t=151853 See Mikey (flashflaash account) on D2 (would be considered D3 in this site's parlance)
Sounds like peak Mafia fun to me!leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:28 pmThe funny thing in that game is he actually fake redchecked a wolf, but they knew it was bullshit because of both the setup and the fact that the wolf was a godfatherleetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:28 pmMy perspective is perhaps biased because I played in a game where someone did exactlly that. https://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vb ... p?t=151853 See Mikey (flashflaash account) on D2 (would be considered D3 in this site's parlance)
Another person claiming cop would make a hypothetical real cop outside you/Abi more likely to claim.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:12 pmHow are those contradictory statements? I rescinded the claim but an actual cop would have every right to be pissed off by this.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:08 pmLeetic: "your play is dangerous because it might out the real cop"☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:07 pm I think my favorite thing is the tripping over feet to simultaneously try to shade me and call my claim obviously fake
While also openly acknowledging that it is in fact not obviously fake by speculating about "the real cop"
Also leetic: "I claim cop"
Yeah, I'm comfortable calling Leetic mafia.
The point was never to hold onto it for long. Ideally, Abigail would have rescinded, then I would immediately rescind afterwards, and nobody would have to be outedThunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:30 pmAnother person claiming cop would make a hypothetical real cop outside you/Abi more likely to claim.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:12 pmHow are those contradictory statements? I rescinded the claim but an actual cop would have every right to be pissed off by this.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:08 pmLeetic: "your play is dangerous because it might out the real cop"☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:07 pm I think my favorite thing is the tripping over feet to simultaneously try to shade me and call my claim obviously fake
While also openly acknowledging that it is in fact not obviously fake by speculating about "the real cop"
Also leetic: "I claim cop"
Yeah, I'm comfortable calling Leetic mafia.