The Syndicate

TL:DR
I don't know what FH's case is, but I vaguely trust her, and reading and thinking is hard, so

*votes INH*

I've got a question, Flyin' High. If I was on INH's team, would I do this?

Changes vote to INH

Why did you change your vote, Ace?

FH, Sorsha, SVS, K4J, Bass_The_Clever, Aces, and TH, I for one cannot wait to see what your excuses are when I come up civ. This is the laziest baddie rigged lynch I have ever seen. At least try to be subtle when you rig the lynch next time.

Turnip Head wrote:Why did you change your vote, Ace?

Because

FUCK
LOGIC

that's why

FH, what are you going to say when I come up civ? "Whoopsie, my bad. RIP INH. So, about this Aces character..."

SVS: "Whoopsie, I'm just a pawn in all of this! So, about the Turnip Head character..."

TH: "TIES ARE FUNNSDREHSFLOHGJKFJH!!!!!"

Aces: "Look Mommy, I'm A Rebel!"

Sorsha: Hmm, this is an interesting development, this must mean that FH, and nobody else is bad, right?

K4J: Obviously, because I'm from K-Site, usually people who's names begin with the letter "i" are bad. So I obviously had to vote for him.

Bass the Clever "..."

What brought the orgy to a grinding halt?

Poll ended at Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:01 pm

Epignosis
0
No votes

Elohcin
0
No votes

SVS
0
No votes

Bass
0
No votes

kneel4justice
0
No votes

Sorsha
0
No votes

INH
7
Flyin' High (4), kneel4justice (10), Bass_the_Clever (11), Sorsha (13), S~V~S (14), Turnip Head (15), AceofSpaces (16)
44%

DH
0
No votes

FH
5
Epignosis (5), DharmaHelper (6), insertnamehere (7), birdwithteeth11 (8), Elohcin (9)
31%

Hedgeowl
0
No votes

BWT
0
No votes

White guilt (host/deads/nons)
4
boo (1), Mister Rearranger (2), MovingPictures07 (3), Hedgeowl (12)
25%


Total votes : 16

Well, well, well.

Rest in peace INH. Now I'm just wondering why Aces would change his vote like that if he was a civ.

Turnip Head wrote:Rest in peace INH. Now I'm just wondering why Aces would change his vote like that if he was a civ.

Well with parting words like that all I have to say is good riddance, civvie or not.

Sorsha wrote:Well with parting words like that all I have to say is good riddance, civvie or not.

So you aren't even going to defend yourself?

insertnamehere wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Well with parting words like that all I have to say is good riddance, civvie or not.

So you aren't even going to defend yourself?

Lets stay off topic please.

That doesn't mean y'all all got to clam up now. Carry on.

I'm basically just waiting for Ace to explain himself. He was able to swoop in literally seconds before the poll ended to change his vote and seal the lynch, like a ninja of suspiciousness, and then he was able to swoop out of here just as quickly once INH flipped civ. I want to understand why he felt he needed to do what he did.

Turnip Head wrote:I'm basically just waiting for Ace to explain himself. He was able to swoop in literally seconds before the poll ended to change his vote and seal the lynch, like a ninja of suspiciousness, and then he was able to swoop out of here just as quickly once INH flipped civ. I want to understand why he felt he needed to do what he did.

I can think of a reason, but perhaps I should keep it to myself until we hear from him.

Shenanigans!

Sorry INH.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Sorry INH.

You sound overcome with emotion.

insertnamehere wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Sorry INH.

You sound overcome with emotion.

What an interesting turn of events there, with Aces changing his vote at the last minute there. I look forward to hearing back from him.

Turnip Head wrote:I'm basically just waiting for Ace to explain himself. He was able to swoop in literally seconds before the poll ended to change his vote and seal the lynch, like a ninja of suspiciousness, and then he was able to swoop out of here just as quickly once INH flipped civ. I want to understand why he felt he needed to do what he did.

I am curious as to why you think he did what he did?

I don't know why. But it doesn't seem at all like a civvish thing to do. So I'd love to hear his reasoning.

I am honestly shocked at how the votes came in this lynch and that I survived because Aces decided to switch his vote. Even moreso since if he had left the vote on me, I would have been lynched since card czar's vote is worth 2 (actually, scratch that--who knows, there is so much vote manipulation in this game it's hard to say).

Obviously I was wrong about the whole INH and Aces are teammates thing, but something still feels very off about Aces. However, I am willing to take a step back because it bothered me that other than the two people I was accusing, no one joined in on the discussion and no other names (other than my own as a reactionary thing) were brought up for discussion yesterday.

Makes me think the mafia are sitting back and letting the civvies duke it out in the thread.

I had no idea where to look, tbh. I wanted to lynch Turnip Dom, and still do, tbh. I should have copped out like I initially said i would and voted for someone I think is being blendy, but I was having some issues reconciling your behavior in this game with your behavior as a baddie, and like Sorsha said, it seemed to me that the votes for you felt like a baddie pile up. Still not sure there. Also I don't know that i think Aces would do that if he expected INH to flip civ.

So yeah, I want to hear what he says, and i also want to know what DH thinks of Aces doing this. I have seen him be wrong about Aces, but i still think his opinion has value re his brother.

So Smegma killed two people?

16. One Night Stand: Choose one other player to spend the night with. Anything that happens to one happens to the other. If one or the other gets targeted for a kill, protect, curse, etc. then if affects both of them. If the player you spend the night with targets someone you are told who they targeted.

So at least one of Bass/SVS is guaranteed to be a civ?

rezz me plz?

insertnamehere wrote:Anybody want a confirmed civvie with a chip on his shoulder?

No.

S~V~S wrote:boo

Wow what a statement; ambiguity even in death. I meant it as in "boo", the remark you make when something happens that you don't like. it could also be interpreted as *boo*, what dead ghosty people say, OR as an appeal to the host. So don't interpret it those wrong ways, living people

Epignosis wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:Anybody want a confirmed civvie with a chip on his shoulder?

No.

your loss...

DharmaHelper wrote:16. One Night Stand: Choose one other player to spend the night with. Anything that happens to one happens to the other. If one or the other gets targeted for a kill, protect, curse, etc. then if affects both of them. If the player you spend the night with targets someone you are told who they targeted.

So at least one of Bass/SVS is guaranteed to be a civ?

Yeah... unless there was some strange target switching going on, I'd have to review the roles, not even sure it is possible.

DH- SVS had asked about what you thought about Aces switching his vote right at the last minute and I was also looking forward to your answer and what you think overall about him this game. Do you think he is civvie?

Aces- why did you switch your vote at the last minute? Did you really believe INH to be bad? What do you think of FH at this point?

I'm voting for TH now

Rest in peace SVS and Bass. Looks like you guys might have both been civvies.

I'm quite upset that I'm getting votes without anyone actually considering any of my thoughts since I joined the game. And I don't know why people seem so certain. I'm not bad, I've never been bad, and I have no intention of ever trying to become bad. Yet here I am, getting votes like it's some foregone conclusion. Meanwhile, we haven't heard from Ace at all since his ninja vote switch. Complete silence on his end, like it doesn't deserve an explanation. Maybe someone compelled him to switch his vote, I don't know if that is mechanically possible in this game, to force a vote change but if that did happen he still at least needs to give us some kind of reason for his actions. He has been directly asked about it. It is incredibly suspicious that he hasn't responded.

Regardless, I cannot be lynched today, and I have no reason to not be upfront about that. I do not want to see today's lynch wasted. Let's at least talk through some other options. If at the end of some real discussion you still feel I'm the most suspicious, so be it. I won't be lynched, and even though someone stole a hard-earned Awesome Point from me last night, I will have ways to prove myself. But lynching me today is a waste of precious time.

I also think it is worth discussing publicly who we intend on voting to rez. If we don't talk about it, we're handing the the baddies the advantage to rez one of their own (or even worse, rez a civ into a baddie role).

I'm considering voting for SVS, even though she heavily suspected me. I think she was likely killed to try and frame me. But if SVS is a civvie I want her around, she is an incredibly intuitive player and I like the way she thinks, except when she's blindly trying to get me lynched because she's holding on to misplaced suspicion of Dom.

I'd also consider voting for INH as a mea culpa, but he was incredibly nasty going down so I don't know how much goodwill I have for him

I'd also consider voting for MR, as I think he brings a needed perspective at this point in time. MR is a smart player and someone who I suspect was a civvie before his death. I think he was figuring things out too much for the baddies' liking.

Another possible rezz candidate is johns2jj who was lynched and flipped civvie.

I need to go back and try to understand the stuff against TH. I'll admit I was focused on my own suspicions and kind of gave it second fiddle these past couple of days.

I also want to take a closer look at Epi. Partially because of what MR said right before he got NKed and partially because of his posts on Day 6. At the time I felt he was doing nothing to introduce his own theories/ideas to the thread and was just fanning the flames of what was an intense back and forth between me and INH/Aces.

reywaS wrote:Doelynn may be a bitch, but she had my back, Rakarg! SURRENDER!!!

Such good times and the ultimate cliffhanger--can't wait for next week!

Rest in peace S~V~S and Bass. That last day cycle really sucked.

So, first things first. Why did I change my vote to FH? It was because I didn't want her to get lynched. My initial vote for her was hasty and ill thought out. The lynch had become one giant no u, and unfortunately it let the baddies take advantage between the conflict between me/INH/FH. It was too late to change the outcome of the lynch, either INH was going to go, or FH was. In the end I chose to save FH because she has constantly put forth a solid effort in finding baddies and analyzing the data we have. I didn't want to lose that. I'm sorry INH was a civie. Rest in peace, INH.

quote="DharmaHelper"]16. One Night Stand: Choose one other player to spend the night with. Anything that happens to one happens to the other. If one or the other gets targeted for a kill, protect, curse, etc. then if affects both of them. If the player you spend the night with targets someone you are told who they targeted.

So at least one of Bass/SVS is guaranteed to be a civ?[/quote]

This is a good observation. I'm thinking S~V~S was probably the One Night Stand, based on her behavior towards the end there. She seemed really certain Dom/TH was up to no good. Maybe we know why now.

Speaking of TH, I'm really starting to suspect you myself. The reason you gave for your vote last lynch was waaaaaay sketchy, and I'll be making a case against you.

Sorsha wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:16. One Night Stand: Choose one other player to spend the night with. Anything that happens to one happens to the other. If one or the other gets targeted for a kill, protect, curse, etc. then if affects both of them. If the player you spend the night with targets someone you are told who they targeted.

So at least one of Bass/SVS is guaranteed to be a civ?

Yeah... unless there was some strange target switching going on, I'd have to review the roles, not even sure it is possible.

DH- SVS had asked about what you thought about Aces switching his vote right at the last minute and I was also looking forward to your answer and what you think overall about him this game. Do you think he is civvie?

Aces- why did you switch your vote at the last minute? Did you really believe INH to be bad? What do you think of FH at this point?

I'm voting for TH now

Ace does wild shit when he's bad. See GTA mafia. In my humble opinion, he would not rustle so many jimmies if he were civ.