The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:22 am Tutuu who did you target last night?

noone i ran out of shots

n1 - alison
n2 - hally
n3 - attempted alison, roleblocked
n4 - alison

3-shots

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:21 am I legit think we should just sleep and get more mech and make the mafia kill again. Maybe like indefinitely til Alison gets a red check lol.

an exe is a cop check, no?

Even if she was redirected how does that confirm LC as mafia? She didn't out she was cop checking him. At best it just makes him not cleared.

I can buy that mafia redirected her to town just in case she landed a red check but it doesn't make him the mafia that did it.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:02 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:01 amLC target Radishes if your recipient does indeed get notified because it'll work if Juliets is covering him and won't if she's not. - Hey here's another potential reason why Radishes died, but Alison cop checked him so that's neat.

Shit, yeah, I DID target Radishes last night. Could have been bad for ol' LC. Thanks, Alison!

Hmmm

Surely this is too dumb to be true.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:23 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:19 pm I don't think she's fake. It's too random. Boats? C'mon. Also she'd come up with a fake claim that'd be more believable if she was fake.

Unless she needs to collect "identities" for a more nefarious reason, which would provide a framework to craft the fake role around.

TMI?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:37 pm My instincts tell me nutella's claim is a trap, so it's probably actually legit.

He then voted on the Tim counterwagon.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:24 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:18 am i feel like u guise want me dead purely for emotional reasons. u are afraid that you will look very foolish and embarassed if im 3p and i win

im not an arbiter of justice who gets to dictate ppl's emotions, i cant even control mine, so its fine if u guise act on ur emotions and yeet me

but at please be self-conscious that ur letting ur emotions take control! and that i am not objectively scummy or have high 3p equity!

if I exe you it'll be on policy not emotion. I don't subscribe to schools of thought along the lines of "I don't want to lose to X" or "I'm fine losing if X is mafia". I just think that if someone seriously claims scum then we should take them seriously. And also, we can afford to cover the possibility since we have a lot of kills left.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:42 pm mac is probably telling the truth about his mafia nuke tbh. he never lies about stuff like that. I'm fairly sure we just lose the game at the end of tonight and your roleblocker ability is out of shots so do you want to just message sloonei and tell him we concede?

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:42 pm oops sorry, wrong chat

please do me a favor and lynch yourself after me alison

yea mac, LC is at best not peeked town, but i just, dunno. who else could be mafia?

like, take the game as we know it, just remove the LC and Oddmerta cop peeks

imagine they were never green peeked

who is the most sensible target to yeet in this situation?

No one

>.<

how are we gonna get LC's alignment then with a redirector running around, our trackers being on limited shots, inability to consecutively target the same person twice in a row, and a rogue with an unknown ability? and a town dying every night?

[VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

I don't believe a word she says at this point, and trying to pin this on me is both desperate and distasteful.

if i had to choose between no yeet and tutuu yeet id vote myself cuz its better for my wincon imo

Wait, I can't. And you can't.

Tutuu, we can't vote for each other.

wdym? our votes are appearing up there?

or do u mean, like, they wont get counted or what?

tutuu does not seem aware that I targeted her last night with my power.

nothing happened to me last night

what happens if we try to vote each other?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:06 am tutuu does not seem aware that I targeted her last night with my power.

Was anyone?

i dont recall

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:08 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:06 am tutuu does not seem aware that I targeted her last night with my power.

Was anyone?

I was not told anything this morning. I wasn't even told I can't vote tutuu, which I assume would happen if my power went through.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:08 am what happens if we try to vote each other?

There is no try. We just can't.

wait long con

i think you were vanillized by the rogue

regardless of LC's alignment i think his role was stolen by the rogue

just like how JPIC's role was stolen / his actions were made null, and yet he was able to visit

perhaps the rogue steals roles and ppl arent made aware of that fact

idk this popped in my head

thats my only explanation for why the passive portion of JPIC's role stopped working on n2, and yet JPIC was alive at that point (he died n3)

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:31 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:24 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:18 am i feel like u guise want me dead purely for emotional reasons. u are afraid that you will look very foolish and embarassed if im 3p and i win

im not an arbiter of justice who gets to dictate ppl's emotions, i cant even control mine, so its fine if u guise act on ur emotions and yeet me

but at please be self-conscious that ur letting ur emotions take control! and that i am not objectively scummy or have high 3p equity!

if I exe you it'll be on policy not emotion. I don't subscribe to schools of thought along the lines of "I don't want to lose to X" or "I'm fine losing if X is mafia". I just think that if someone seriously claims scum then we should take them seriously. And also, we can afford to cover the possibility since we have a lot of kills left.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:42 pm mac is probably telling the truth about his mafia nuke tbh. he never lies about stuff like that. I'm fairly sure we just lose the game at the end of tonight and your roleblocker ability is out of shots so do you want to just message sloonei and tell him we concede?

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:42 pm oops sorry, wrong chat

please do me a favor and lynch yourself after me alison

the key word is "seriously". if you read the context of what I wrote I immediately wrote under that it was a joke and also included something in the thing that is obviously a joke. I didn't drag it on for 12 fucking hours and pretended that it was serious the whole time.

if you can't understand the difference between these two situations and why everyone got upset with you but not me then you don't understand the reason that people are voting you and shouldn't make jokes like that in the future.

also I suggest you calm down with getting pissy with me about this since I said there was a 5% chance you were telling the truth even before you said you were joking and gave like a list of reasons why you were probably town. I'm voting you anyway on policy because I can afford to.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:23 pm How's this for a theory.

3p role. Fake Plastic Trees. Each night you target a player. That player will lose all of their role powers. You win the game when every player left aside from you has had their roles taken away.

Sorry Tutuu I already had this idea lol

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:12 am thats my only explanation for why the passive portion of JPIC's role stopped working on n2, and yet JPIC was alive at that point (he died n3)

You think that they don't realise they lose their power and keep firing thinking they do?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:19 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:12 am thats my only explanation for why the passive portion of JPIC's role stopped working on n2, and yet JPIC was alive at that point (he died n3)

You think that they don't realise they lose their power and keep firing thinking they do?

well thats my explanation for why wilgy saw JPIC visiting me, and yet i was not roleblocked

LC seems genuine that he visited me last night regardless of his role or alignemnt

Alison, instead of voting for me me on policy, have you considered scumreading?

not sure if you know about that method but it involves looking at someone's day play and trying to figure out if it's coming from scum or town. it's a pretty obscure tactic but it works well for me

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:20 am Alison, instead of voting for me me on policy, have you considered scumreading?

not sure if you know about that method but it involves looking at someone's day play and trying to figure out if it's coming from scum or town. it's a pretty obscure tactic but it works well for me

do you understand what a policy vote is?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:10 am wait long con

i think you were vanillized by the rogue

No offense, but I'm not seriously considering the things you are suggesting.

no, i am not as intelligent mafia player as u are

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:19 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:19 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:12 am thats my only explanation for why the passive portion of JPIC's role stopped working on n2, and yet JPIC was alive at that point (he died n3)

You think that they don't realise they lose their power and keep firing thinking they do?

well thats my explanation for why wilgy saw JPIC visiting me, and yet i was not roleblocked

LC seems genuine that he visited me last night regardless of his role or alignemnt

post capped*

whatever

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:23 amwhatever

that was at alison not at you

It's an interesting thought. Does it explain any other strange phenomena?

a policy vote is a vote that is explicitly placed as the result of a set rule, which does not necessarily guarantee that the person being voted has the highest scum equity, but rather acts as a deterrent to avoid problem behavior and to make it so that scum roles can't get away with certain things.

for instance, if I have a policy of "exe all lurkers", I'm not actually saying that the scum every game are the lurkers or that only scum players lurk. I'm saying that we can't afford to have lurkers in the game and if we allow people to get away with lurking then we're giving the mafia an easy way out. so on policy we will exe lurkers regardless of our individual read on them to force mafias to abandon any strategy that involves lurking.

in the particular example of lurkers, it's not the best policy because people who have good reasons for lurking will do so regardless of whether or not you have a policy against it since if I don't care enough about the game to post then I don't care enough to avoid getting exed. but I do think that voting you is a good idea even if I believe you are town because it deters problem behavior, removes your antics as a method for mafia to get away in similar situations in the future, and frankly we can afford to take time off for a policy exe because we are far enough ahead.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:24 am It's an interesting thought. Does it explain any other strange phenomena?

what was the thing between dizzy and ted and tim again?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:47 pm Oh. JPIC was the reason thread wasn't open on N1. And here I was hoping Cindy Kate had finally come to its senses. What if someone vanillarized JPIC or some similar action, making his whole role useless? Night was open and Tutu wasn't capped. Looks like he was out of function. Does that make things make more sense?

Dizzy thought of it first gotta give credit

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:23 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:23 amwhatever

that was at alison not at you

That's good, I thought it was a bit petulant.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:25 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:24 am It's an interesting thought. Does it explain any other strange phenomena?

what was the thing between dizzy and ted and tim again?

Tim roleblocked Ted and Dizzy tracked Ted to Tim anyway.

Hypothetically the rogue you speak of targeted Tim?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:26 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:25 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:24 am It's an interesting thought. Does it explain any other strange phenomena?

what was the thing between dizzy and ted and tim again?

Tim roleblocked Ted and Dizzy tracked Ted to Tim anyway.

Hypothetically the rogue you speak of targeted Tim?

i guess?

No one would vannilarize me... unless they have to vannilarize every player to win as a 3p condition. Then it's still tutuu doing it.

That would mean their action works on a same night they target basis.

N1 targeted Tim
N2 targeted JPIC
N5 targeted LC?

mhm

I don't think you'd be shown as visiting a player if you're vanillaized

Vanilla roles can't visit. you could send in an "I visit X" night action to the host, but nothing would happen because you're a Vanilla.