The Syndicate

I have no idea what the fuck is going on with this magpie stuff

existence of a mafia redirector makes dizzy look a lot better so I'm no longer wanting to kill him

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:13 am You got some nerve coming here
You got some nerve coming here
You stole it all
Give it back
You stole it all
Give it back
Good morning, Mister Magpie
How are we today?
Now you've stolen all the magic
I turn my back, walk away
You know you should
But you don't
You know you should
But you don't
Good morning, Mister Magpie
How are we today?
Now you've stolen all the magic
Took my melody

Errr it's pretty um. Weird lyrics I dunno.

classic thom

I will say that I've been checking different targets to those who said good morning mr magpie, and it would be pretty difficult for me to keep faking checks unless I'm actually making them, so you can cross me off the list of people who could be magpie-visitor.

i have no idea why we would assume that a role that makes people say "good morning mr magpie" has to be 3rd party. that sounds stupid and overly speculative toward mechanics

Didn’t dizzy help catch samu? Unless I’m remembering wrong I doubt I ever want to kill dizzy tbh

Checking how SPF deals with the magpie folk, inconsistent. It's not a clearing thing.

I wonder if it's just a thing where she has the songs and targets one each night and the recipient is asked to say it or something so she can match their songs to who they are? Then she is using the other information in the game to deduce reads?

I dunno. I'm willing to just blanket trust everyone who magpied lol.

Oh btw if magpie is 3p is what we’re rolling with I’m confirmed not that too, so that’s nice

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:18 am i have no idea why we would assume that a role that makes people say "good morning mr magpie" has to be 3rd party. that sounds stupid and overly speculative toward mechanics

Well it's like a weird role that exists and is you and nobody else really profiles as 3p based on their confirmed claims?

I guess Juliets and Alison could be the 3p if it's not you...

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:18 am i have no idea why we would assume that a role that makes people say "good morning mr magpie" has to be 3rd party. that sounds stupid and overly speculative toward mechanics

this sounds to me alot like SPF is saying "yes, I made them say magpie, but I am town and my role has a positive effect, not a negative one"

If I am completely off the mark on that guess I am sure someone will let me know

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:21 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:18 am i have no idea why we would assume that a role that makes people say "good morning mr magpie" has to be 3rd party. that sounds stupid and overly speculative toward mechanics

this sounds to me alot like SPF is saying "yes, I made them say magpie, but I am town and my role has a positive effect, not a negative one"

If I am completely off the mark on that guess I am sure someone will let me know

Yeah that's how I read it lol.

what is specific about the magpie role that makes it have 3p equity? if i assume that mac is magpie, why should i be 3p reading him?

i'm in between a rock and a hard place in that i actually have no idea who the 3p is, because i can't hunt for them like i'd be able to hunt for other scum

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:15 am I have no idea what the fuck is going on with this magpie stuff

existence of a mafia redirector makes dizzy look a lot better so I'm no longer wanting to kill him

Did we confirm this? How?

it'd be awesome if someone who got the magpie visitor explained why it makes magpie fren town but if nobody can and all three of the living people who got that message accept it as town then who am I to argue?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:22 am what is specific about the magpie role that makes it have 3p equity? if i assume that mac is magpie, why should i be 3p reading him?

i'm in between a rock and a hard place in that i actually have no idea who the 3p is, because i can't hunt for them like i'd be able to hunt for other scum

The only person who is saying it has 3p equity is me, and it's less that the magpie role has 3p equity and more that you having it and me not having any other information about it makes it seem like the 3p. 3p by POE tbh. The more pertinent question on my mind is why isn't magpie fren the 3p? Perhaps he will visit me tonight and inform me lol.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:22 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:15 am I have no idea what the fuck is going on with this magpie stuff

existence of a mafia redirector makes dizzy look a lot better so I'm no longer wanting to kill him

Did we confirm this? How?

tutuu pointed out that a lot of the mysteries surrounding night actions clear up quite a bit if we assume the existence of a mafia redirector

pretty sure im going to spend my effort in this game trying to figure out who on earth the last mafia is and then burn the "figure out who the 3p is" bridge when i get to it

I remember losing to a non killing townsiding 3p once after towning super hard and killing all the mafia. It sucked.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:29 am I remember losing to a non killing townsiding 3p once after towning super hard and killing all the mafia. It sucked.

to be fair that sounds like a poorly balanced role

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:55 pm I'll ride with you being town but please take over this game now

I mean, the game's set afoot, there's nothing really there for me to talk about.

The slots that are the least cleared from nutella are Dizzy, Odd and Dya.

I'd yeet in that order, I know dya is a good wolf but this has been a pretty good game for them even for what I assume of those standards to be.

The only holes that should be poked in dya's progression is that they started the nutella "should live another day" and once nutella got into the gist of her role, dya left the thread, but it's circumstantial reasoning at best.

SPF is magpie and probably town, I think nutella made an outstanding spew with her on D1 if she's a wolf, and we'll just have to take care of it if PoE is all town.

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Dizzy had questionable progressions but I get a ping of "it's the same thing as Wilgy", twtbaw? Talking about this
I question why "I don't know why you are scum read" turned into "I agree you are gonna flip town, we should go after juliets"

I can see it being a town progression but yeah, looks slimey. Perhaps a tad bit too much banking on "i should get cleared off this because wolves wouldn't do it" but I don't quite see the agenda. Like, you're not starting a wagon on juliets and nutella's wagon won't be derailed by that.

I'm kinda conflicted.

Oddmerta just...isn't cleared by anything. I don't have to go there. His Tim push isn't clearing, he fell off tremendously after Tim flipped and has been giving gun to head reads with like zero progression and seeing what sticks. Perhaps the burden of perfect information put some sticks in his wheels because he focused on one single person for 3 day phases.

I didn't do well in this game because we had a lot of afks or people verging on twtbaw or wolves open wolfing, which went against my MO and how I go about reading people.

I expect to be sniped by F3 or whatever, even with the poor grasp on the game that I have, I can solve an F3. Unless it's with the 3p and another town lol.

Look I might be crazy here but didn’t dizzy help out samu?As I recall dizzy tracking samu to alison was fairly important. Maybe I’m remembering it wrong idk but FMPOV samu’s flip cleared alison/dizzy for me

I mean it’s not like

HARD cleared

But I’d rather kill other people before dizzy still

Is there a mech reason to actually clear poison?

Another point for Dya town is some nutella spew, where nutella ignored her entire posts, then makes a post putting her at townie, some paranoia, and it is only after that when nutella demands dya to actually do something, which was to slot some g2h reads, and that progression looked smooth af and not planned at all, I think it was in order to make her look bad.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:22 pm that's a lot of nulls dya, do you think you could split them into gth town and gth scum?

This was the read after I asked her how dya got into her list, and her reasoning was "I read her town on tone"

I don't think you kinda have that progression on dya if you're a wolf with them, I look at these types of things as more of a "how you deal with a town player that has clout" , which was why dya was placed in towny, some paranoia in the first place.

I kinda think nutella would cringe at making that post on the go and would just not bother at all.

I think there is one I’m forgetting but idk

Self-awareness on a wolf partner progression is the thing I was looking for to explain that read.

She was way too casual about it in order to matter, if dya is town then she'll prolly be obvious by endgame, so nutella wouldn't mind "spewing" her.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:08 am I mean it’s not like

HARD cleared

But I’d rather kill other people before dizzy still

I could do Odd before Dizzy.

If I’m not forgetting a mech clear I might do poison first too tbh

That's what I'm saying, there are many people with either

a) mechanical reasons to think they're town
b) spew reasons to think they're town
c) too wolf to be a wolf

like that's not how I solve games, you usually know I have a good grasp on the game if I die on Night 2, if I don't, it's likely that I'm wrong on some if not all accounts.

I can try, sure, but I'm not comfortable leading the game right now, I'm just waiting to go to DVC in F5 or whenever I'm taken out.

Yeah it’s a weird game

Also annoying that i don’t think most of our mech applies to 3p? So that’s not ideal

Poison being scum would explain why this game makes no sense to me and she may just be in my blind side, it's entirely possible.

I'm looking at that PoE and just not buying any of those people flipping scum other than maybe Oddmerta.

Poison would feel more like 3p than scum to me though?

Idk I'll take a look

She could be 3p, yeah

My 3p pool is pretty fucked tbh I don’t think I can figure that shit out with mafia still alive

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:04 pm

Samusamu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:59 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:21 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:05 pm I hope to see something from colin when I'm back. Too early to form a read but idk intuition says they might be scum?

How in the world could you possibly have “intuition” telling you anything about me with nearly zero posts

Poison scumming

Imagine calling poison a scum after playing with her in g9 and seeing the extremes of scumminess one can do. Lol. Anyways I see a lot of notifications from you, I'll be attending those. Oh btw!!!! Hello.. Also did you change your pfp to this one cause the other one never made others read you @Samusamu ? btw Herm is here as well ! And Master Radishes!! Hype!

idk man skimming her ISO and I just can't fathom scum her having the balls to do this type of thing

like in this game, if she played like this then huge props, I am like 60% confident she would've been the yeet over nutella d1 if she were to be scum here, simple as that.

disrespect reads, whatever, I hope I'm wrong and get slapped post-game for being wrong but I just can't fathom her being a scum this game

lol

Poison scum would never endgame as a wolf in any team, she'd be the first one to go. Or among the first ones anyway.

I could see dya/logic potentially being mafia

Kinda think the way logic tried holding his results after coming was >rand town but idk

Like it’s weird if they’re mafia but it’s not weirder than a lot of other shit

Could see poison, ted probably right she’s more likely 3p than scum if not town tho, song checking claim is kinda ballsy for mafia to fake/unlikely mafia has a fact checking role AND a soup kill that would be fucky I think? OTOH town pretty strong so not impossible I guess

Odd is there ig

Outside of those it’s like

I don’t fucking know if it’s not in those

She also dropped off a cliff after mafia started dying

I feel like if Nutella was shoving in a deep wolf it could've been Alison.

Like I'm running out of options here and PoE just begs that conclusion.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:22 am She also dropped off a cliff after mafia started dying

I don't think it's game related.

Samusamu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:23 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:04 pm

Samusamu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:59 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:21 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:05 pm I hope to see something from colin when I'm back. Too early to form a read but idk intuition says they might be scum?

How in the world could you possibly have “intuition” telling you anything about me with nearly zero posts

Poison scumming

Imagine calling poison a scum after playing with her in g9 and seeing the extremes of scumminess one can do. Lol. Anyways I see a lot of notifications from you, I'll be attending those. Oh btw!!!! Hello.. Also did you change your pfp to this one cause the other one never made others read you @Samusamu ? btw Herm is here as well ! And Master Radishes!! Hype!

I'm rational, a very one, meta is meta, you are a bad liar okey, but u are avoiding playing and fluffing.

Also dont see the poison who want to do some active research.

But yes, its a pleasure to play with again

and just looking back at samu, he hard bussed his team mates, this looks like polarised from how he treated his partners

I feel like he would've done so with Poison rather than jpic and sprit, knowing Poison's scum game being subpar.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:23 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:22 am She also dropped off a cliff after mafia started dying

I don't think it's game related.

Very well could be! Idk. Not saying it’s indicative, just that the her having a team pumping her up in scum chat and dropping off once they start dying en masse is possible imo


Like idk it’s not a read id feel good about but there aren’t many people left I feel good about killing so

Alison pushing for policy yeets feels like playing to her wincon if she wants to win, if you ask me /shrug

A claimed cop is never going to solo lol

There's the N1 defence though. Where could the kill have gone to -.-

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:32 am A claimed cop is never going to solo lol

yeah I had a post on that saying something about her claim and clears but realised I don't have an explanation for the N1 nk

Oh yeah we also have two protectives that say they targeted alison N1 too lmao

LC's progression on Nutella looks townie on the surface too.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:34 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:32 am A claimed cop is never going to solo lol

yeah I had a post on that saying something about her claim and clears but realised I don't have an explanation for the N1 nk

I mean it’s technically possible if she plays the “there’s a godfather” card maybe, idk

But it’s not a play you expect to win the game I’d say?

Regardless yeah we’ve got radishes and tutu both having said they protected her N1 so I’d guess she’s probably just town

Locked town (can't be 3p)

tedxtr


Locked not mafia

Alison
Mac


Nutella spew question mark ?

spf
juliets
dyachei


Soul read not wolf

Poison Chan


Alleged checks / heard there were shenanigans here that I didn't get into just yet

Nanook
LC


People we don't know anything about

Oddmerta
Dizzy