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Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:41 am**

Idk I'd just take an oddmerta flip tomorrow

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:48 am**

Poison could be some sort of copycat role as 3p or could have a wincon of pairing x number of people to their songs and as a return she just confirms we aren't lying about it.

It would fit the theme of the game nicely, I think, for a 3p role to match the songs to players.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:48 am**

Alison green checked Oddmerta dude.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:49 am**

Like, I'm 3p, my ability is to match people to their songs

host confirms I'm right or wrong

"hey guys person x is lying about their song / is telling the truth about their song"

simple enough? lol

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:49 am**

I'm still tinfoiling Juliets. She targeted town that died three times. I also initially read her/Nutella as potentially staged too. And Fallen Prince was on course for getting destroyed day 1 til the sub out.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:49 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:48 am Alison green checked Oddmerta dude.

when did that happen oof

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:50 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:49 am I'm still tinfoiling Juliets. She targeted town that died three times. I also initially read her/Nutella as potentially staged too. And Fallen Prince was on course for getting destroyed day 1 til the sub out.

I was town reading Prince more than I was juliets at first lol

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:50 am**

Logic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:53 pm No problem, Mac.

Maybe if game isn't over, I can actually do something to contribute.

logic is 3p thank me later

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:51 am**

3p tracker? Cuz pretty sure Dyachei proved herself as a tracker.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:51 am**

Idk, her role sounds pretty weak for a mafia role. Also questioning how you would be able to confirm it at all. Sounds like a role bound to get outed at some point due to mechanics at one point or another, if you were to fake claim it.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:52 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:51 am Idk, her role sounds pretty weak for a mafia role. Also questioning how you would be able to confirm it at all. Sounds like a role bound to get outed at some point due to mechanics at one point or another, if you were to fake claim it.

talking about juliets

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:53 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:40 am Locked town (can't be 3p)

tedxtr

Locked not mafia

Alison
Mac

Nutella spew question mark ?

spf
juliets
dyachei

Soul read not wolf

Poison Chan

Alleged checks / heard there were shenanigans here that I didn't get into just yet

Nanook
LC

People we don't know anything about

Oddmerta
Dizzy

My targeting of alison is largely what outed samu

I also targeted Mac N1 and if you think THREE mafia targeted him N1...lulz

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:54 am**

This juliets talk kinda made me go back to Samu's out.

Surely he must've had a result there, no? Why would he come out if he had nothing? Just pure guess?

assuming juliets is telling the truth, am I missing something?

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:54 am**

Odd is green checked? When?

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:54 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:51 am Idk, her role sounds pretty weak for a mafia role. Also questioning how you would be able to confirm it at all. Sounds like a role bound to get outed at some point due to mechanics at one point or another, if you were to fake claim it.

Her role is an easy fake claim. It's just a lie no? What evidence is there she ever stopped a mafia role landing?

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:54 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:54 am Odd is green checked? When?

Most recent check.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:55 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:54 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:51 am Idk, her role sounds pretty weak for a mafia role. Also questioning how you would be able to confirm it at all. Sounds like a role bound to get outed at some point due to mechanics at one point or another, if you were to fake claim it.
Her role is an easy fake claim. It's just a lie no? What evidence is there she ever stopped a mafia role landing?

I actually went back to this, read back my post and let's talk about that Samu out lol

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:55 am**

Big oof at missing that tbh

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:55 am**

oh wait wtf he actually just gambled? wow

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:57 am**

So samu targeted alison N4

The only targeting role he had was an inherited roleblock

But it was known beforehand that Jules and tutu were protecting alison

So why the fuck does he target alison? Was he forced into it...?

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:58 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:54 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:51 am Idk, her role sounds pretty weak for a mafia role. Also questioning how you would be able to confirm it at all. Sounds like a role bound to get outed at some point due to mechanics at one point or another, if you were to fake claim it.
Her role is an easy fake claim. It's just a lie no? What evidence is there she ever stopped a mafia role landing?

meeeeeeeeh

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:58 am**

Like did someone dictate his target? I don’t think so?

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:58 am**

Juliets in a game full of trackers and watchers needs to not lie about where she goes.

I dunno I'm not sold either but there are holes in her game fmpov. I've seen no evidence of her role affecting the game.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:59 am**

I just find it very strange that three people she visited died is all. And a fourth that only didn't cuz Tutuu saved her.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:00 am**

If mafia thought samu was going to die at some point

It’s reasonable for them to send him to alison N4 to “prove” alison or Jules if one is his partner

It’s something I would do anyways

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:00 am**

As I see it, her claim is a "sit on the confirmed town for the entire game" kind of claim.

As a mafia you're just...messing yourself up. All it took was a watcher to be on someone and confirm or deny juliets.

Also trackers.

Like it's not that easy of a fake claim as I think you're making it look like.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:01 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:00 am If mafia thought samu was going to die at some point

It’s reasonable for them to send him to alison N4 to “prove” alison or Jules if one is his partner

It’s something I would do anyways

Actually this probably only works for Jules, I think alison saw my claim to target her before samu said the two songs thing?

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:02 am**

As a scum, you claim that and a tracker follows you. If you're x-shot and you get spotted on some random, you're immediately outed.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:03 am**

Idk maybe I’m too far into tinfoil

It’s fucking weird for samu to try and target alison n4 tho

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:06 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:02 am As a scum, you claim that and a tracker follows you. If you're x-shot and you get spotted on some random, you're immediately outed.

She had her night targets forced on her from n3 onwards. The game has trackers and watchers. She can't afford to go anywhere but where she says. She can't be caught by trackers cuz even if she gets tracked to the kill she was going there anyway.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:07 am**

We have Nanook who is trying to target the NK and had failed 5 times.

We have Juliets who isn't and has succeeded 4 times lol.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:07 am**

I mean, yeah, you do have a point, I'd only claim that if I am the kp carrier for the rest of the game

still doesn't feel like a claim I'd endgame with?

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:08 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:07 am We have Nanook who is trying to target the NK and had failed 5 times.

We have Juliets who isn't and has succeeded 4 times lol.

I’d be the worst doc ever tbh

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:08 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:07 am I mean, yeah, you do have a point, I'd only claim that if I am the kp carrier for the rest of the game

still doesn't feel like a claim I'd endgame with?

Well maybe not but when she made the claim she had partners lol.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:08 am**

Counterpoint is that if Jules is town she IS trying to target likely mafia targets

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:10 am**

Let me be clear I'm only looking at her because like everyone has town claims. She hasn't been scummy, has spew in her favour and buried mafia. She just hasn't got any mech evidence that she's town and targeted the NK 4 times.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:10 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:08 am Counterpoint is that if Jules is town she IS trying to target likely mafia targets

She's just targeting who I tell her to. And I'm not sending her to places I think mafia are killing amigo.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:10 am**

I guess Mafia being so hellbent on getting Hally out of the game with what appeared to be a strongman would put juliets in a bad light

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:11 am**

The only thing that can truly out juliets is a watcher

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:11 am**

I didn't send Juliets to MR, TSP or Wilgy thinking they were ever getting shot over some of the others.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:11 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:11 am The only thing that can truly out juliets is a watcher

Ah but that's actually not true my friend lol.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:12 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:11 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:11 am The only thing that can truly out juliets is a watcher
Ah but that's actually not true my friend lol.

what, you got some shenanigans up your sleeve? lol

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:12 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:10 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:08 am Counterpoint is that if Jules is town she IS trying to target likely mafia targets
She's just targeting who I tell her to. And I'm not sending her to places I think mafia are killing amigo.

Presumably you’re sending her places the mafia are potentially going to target though yeah

And they’ve just been killing those instead of hitting them with negative actions

Like the overlap between people mafia want to kill and want to hit with roles is pretty high usually

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:13 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:11 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:11 am The only thing that can truly out juliets is a watcher
Ah but that's actually not true my friend lol.
what, you got some shenanigans up your sleeve? lol

*touches nose*

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:14 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:10 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:08 am Counterpoint is that if Jules is town she IS trying to target likely mafia targets
She's just targeting who I tell her to. And I'm not sending her to places I think mafia are killing amigo.
Presumably you’re sending her places the mafia are potentially going to target though yeah

And they’ve just been killing those instead of hitting them with negative actions

Like the overlap between people mafia want to kill and want to hit with roles is pretty high usually

Not a single person expected TSP or Wilgy to die. I sent her to them so that mafia couldn't disrupt their activity. Mafia have no agenda to kill them if they have no concern over what they're going to do that night. TSP had nothing left. It didn't make sense then and doesn't now.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:16 am**

I’m not saying it totally makes sense I’m just playing devils advocate that the pool of “people to hit with negative actions” and “people to NK” usually has a pretty large overlap

The kills this game are fucking confusing to me though so maybe it is just as simple as “Jules was forced into making them” idk

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:19 am**

What better way to dodge potential trackers/watchers than just go where you're told? To NOT do so would be dumb.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:19 am**

Not arguing with that at all

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:19 am**

I want both Juliets and Long Con to target me tonight plz.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:20 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:19 am I want both Juliets and Long Con to target me tonight plz.

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