The Syndicate

NOTE: if you didn't express interest originally, you can still participate! Everyone is welcome, just hop in and talk about whatever album is the flavor of the week with us.

Original description of the idea:
*crickets*




Previously visited albums:

1. nutella - The Family Crest - Beneath the Brine / 2014 / Chamber pop/Indie rock / 11 tracks / 53:12 / (Spotify and YouTube) --- Discussion
2. MovingPictures07 - Fishmans - 98.12.28 Otokotachi no Wakare / 1999 / Dream pop / 14 tracks / 2:10:19 --- Discussion
3. Boomslang - Goat - World Music / 2012 / Psychedelic rock / 9 tracks / 37:10 / (Spotify) --- Discussion
4. insertnamehere - Scott Walker - Bish Bosch / 2012 / Experimental / 9 tracks / 73:04 / (Spotify) --- Discussion
5. thellama73 - Arthur Brown - The Crazy World of Arthur Brown / 1968 / Psychedelic rock / 10 tracks / 36:39 --- Discussion
6. G-Man - Chuck Berry - Chuck Berry Is on Top / 1959 / Rock and roll / 12 tracks / 29:26 / (YouTube Playlist- Listen to the first six tracks (through Johnny B Goode), then listen to this solo track (Little Queenie), then resume the playlist.), available on Spotify --- Discussion
7. JaggedJimmyJay - Crowded House - Woodface / 1991 / Rock-oriented pop / 14 tracks / 48:03 / available on YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
8. triceratopzeuhl - The Kinks - Arthur / 1969 / Rock-oriented pop / 12 tracks / 48:43 / available on YouTube --- Discussion
9. A Person - Vanessa Rossetto - Whole Stories / 2014 / Field recordings/Musique concrète / 2 tracks / 39:39 / available on Bandcamp --- Discussion
10. Marmot - deadmau5 - > album title goes here < / 2012 / House / 13 tracks / 79:53 / available on YouTube --- Discussion
11. Ricochet - Jethro Tull - A Passion Play / 1973 / Progressive Rock / 2 tracks / 45:05 / available on YouTube / (Post site resurrection) Discussion)
12. Epignosis - echolyn - echolyn / 2012 / Progressive Rock / 8 tracks / 70:44 / available on bandcamp --- Discussion
13. Quin - Last Dinosaurs - In a Million Years / 2012 / Indie Pop / 11 tracks / 42:56 / available on YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
14. thellama73 - Pandora's Box - Original Sin / 1989 / Art Pop / 14 tracks / 67:11 / available on YouTube --- Discussion
15. insertnamehere - The Mountain Goats - All Hail West Texas / Lo-Fi / 14 tracks / 42:02 / available on YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
16. Golden - Corinne Bailey Rae - The Heart Speaks in Whispers (Deluxe) / 2016 / Neo-soul / 16 tracks / 75:32 / YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
17. MovingPictures07 - Dead Can Dance - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun / 1987 / Neoclassical darkwave / 8 tracks / 38:43 / YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
18. nutella - Bobby McFerrin - Circlesongs / 1997 / Vocal Jazz / 8 tracks / 42:42 / YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
19. speedchuck - Toehider - What Kind of Creature Am I? / 2014 / Progressive rock/metal / 10 tracks / 51:45 / YouTube, Bandcamp, and Spotify --- Discussion
20. G-Man - The Stooges - Fun House / 1970 / Proto-punk / 7 tracks / 36:35 / YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
21. sprityo - Michael Guy Bowman - Mobius Trip and Hadron Kaleido / 2011 / Synthpop / 9 tracks / 39:21 / YouTube and Bandcamp --- Discussion
22. thellama73 - Comus - First Utterance / 1971 / Psychedelic folk / 7 tracks / 42:08 / YouTube --- Discussion
23. JaggedJimmyJay - Mariee Sioux - Faces in the Rocks / 2007 / Contemporary folk / 8 tracks / 49:40 / YouTube, Bandcamp, and Spotify --- Discussion
24. Epignosis - Tears for Fears - Songs From the Big Chair / 1985 / New wave / 8 tracks / 40:27 / YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
25. A Person - Moor Mother - Fetish Bones / 2016 / Noise/hip hop / 13 tracks / 30:16 / YouTube, Bandcamp, and Spotify --- Discussion
26. triceratopzeuhl - Townes Van Zandt - Townes Van Zandt / 1969 / Country/folk / 10 tracks / 34:33 / available on YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
27. sprityo - Ratatat - Classics / 2006 / Alternative indie rock / 10 tracks / 39:01 / available on YouTube -- Discussion
28. Ricochet - Phoenix - Mugur de fluier / 1974 / Progressive folk / 14 tracks / 45:56 / available on YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
29. G-Man - A Flock of Seagulls - A Flock of Seagulls / 1982 / Synth-pop, New Wave / 11 tracks / 41:06 / available on YouTube --- Discussion
30. MovingPictures07 - Esbjörn Svensson Trio - Leucocyte / 2008 / Avant-Garde Jazz / 10 tracks / 74:38 / available on YouTube --- Discussion
31. nutella - Woodkid - The Golden Age / 2013 / Orchestral Pop / 14 tracks / 48:34 / available on YouTube --- Discussion
32. speedchuck - That Handsome Devil - A City Dressed in Dynamite / 2008 / Experimental alternative rock / 41:42 / available on YouTube --- Discussion
33. insertnamehere - Timber Timbre - Creep On Creepin' On / 2011 / Freak Folk / 10 Tracks / 39:28 / available on YouTube --- Discussion
34. Epignosis - Chris Squire - Fish Out of Water / 1975 / Symphonic Prog / 5 tracks / 42:30 / available on YouTube --- Discussion
35. JaggedJimmyJay - Joanna Newsom - Ys / 2006 / Folk / 5 tracks / 55:41 / Available on YouTube --- Discussion
36. dunya - Drake - Take Care / 2011 / Pop rap / 17 tracks / 80:23 / Available on YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
37. G-Man - Vince Guaraldi Trio - A Charlie Brown Christmas / 1965 / Christmas music / 11 tracks / 34:29 / Available on YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
38. MovingPictures07 - Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma / 2010 / Intelligent dance music / 17 tracks / 45:47 / YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
39. JaggedJimmyJay - CunninLynguists - A Piece of Strange / 2005 / Southern hip hop / 16 tracks / 54:19 / YouTube, Bandcamp, and Spotify --- Discussion
40. speedchuck - Rishloo - Feathergun / 2010 / Prog Rock / 11 tracks / 58:15 / Youtube and Spotify --- Discussion
41. nutella - Chris Thile, Edgar Meyer, Stuart Duncan, Yo-Yo Ma - The Goat Rodeo Sessions / 2011 / Bluegrass/Classical fusion / 11 (+2 bonus) tracks / 57:18 (without bonus tracks) / Youtube and Spotify --- Discussion
42. Epignosis - Kansas - Somewhere to Elsewhere / 2000 / Progressive rock / 11 tracks / 68:09 / YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
43. MovingPictures07 - Ryoji Ikeda - dataplex / 2005 / Microsound / 20 tracks / 55:31 / YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
44. dunya - Pescado Rabioso - Pescado 2 / 1973 / Psychedelic Rock / 18 tracks / 73:40 / YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
45. G-Man - Local H - Pack Up The Cats / 1998 / Rock / 15 tracks / 47:38 / YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
46. JaggedJimmyJay - Marina & the Diamonds - The Family Jewels / 2010 / Electropop / 13 tracks / 46:22 / YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
47. speedchuck - Ayreon - Universal Migrator Pt I: The Dream Sequencer / 2000 / Rock Opera / 11 Tracks / 70:14 / YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
48. MovingPictures07 - Madvillain - Madvillainy / 2004 / Abstract Hip Hop / 22 tracks / 46:13 / YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
49. Ricochet - Igor Stravinsky - Petrushka / 1910-11 / Classical, Ballet Music / 4 tracks / parts / 34:58 / YouTube and Spotify (multiple different performances) --- Discussion
50. ColinIsCool - Los Campesinos! - No Blues / 2014 / Indie rock/indie pop / 10 tracks / 41:39 / YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
51. nutella - Esben and the Witch - A New Nature / 2014 / Post-rock/Darkwave / 8 tracks / 54:28 / Youtube, Bandcamp, and Spotify --- Discussion
52. dunya - Emilíana Torrini - Fisherman's Woman / 2005 / Contemporary Folk / 12 tracks / 39:22 / Youtube and Spotify --- Discussion
53. G-Man - Explosions In the Sky - The Wilderness / 2016 / Post-Rock / 9 tracks / 46:20 / Youtube and Spotify --- Discussion
54. JaggedJimmyJay - Queensrÿche - Operation: Mindcrime / 1988 / Heavy metal/Rock opera / 15 tracks / 59:12 / Youtube and Spotify --- Discussion
55. speedchuck - Royal Blood - How Did We Get So Dark? / 2017 / Alternative Rock / 10 tracks / 34:25 / Youtube and Spotify --- Discussion
56. MovingPictures07 - Oneohtrix Point Never - Replica / 2011 / [Experimental Electronic] [Ambient] [Plunderphonics] / 10 tracks / 40:57 / Available on Youtube and Spotify --- Discussion
57. Ricochet - Aphrodite's Child - 666 / 1972 / Rock opera/Psychedelic, Fusion / 24 tracks / 77:58 / Available on Youtube and Spotify --- Discussion
58. Nutella - The Reign of Kindo - Rhythm, Chord & Melody / 2008 / Jazz-y indie rock / 12 tracks / 58:23 / Available on Youtube and Spotify --- Discussion
59. G-Man - Loretta Lynn - Van Lear Rose / 2004 / Country / 13 tracks / 38:30 / Available on YouTube and Spotify --- Discussion
60. JaggedJimmyJay - Carly Rae Jepsen - Emotion / 2015 / Pop / 12 tracks / 44:02 / Available on Youtube and Spotify --- Discussion
61. Speedchuck - Theophany - Time's End / 2012 / Rearranged Soundtrack / 10 tracks / 54:33 / Available on Youtube and Bandcamp --- Discussion
62. M Plus 7 - Sun Ra - Lanquidity / 1978 / Jazz Fusion / 5 tracks / 42:07 / Available on Youtube and Spotify --- Discussion
63. Golden: Itzhak Perlman - Tchaikovsky & Mendelssohn Violin Concertos / 2003 / Classical / 7 tracks / 75:55 / Available via Golden's reconstructed playlist (click spoiler tag)


Current Queue:
64. Sprityo: Young the Giant - Home of the Strange / 2016 / indie rock / 11 tracks / 39:50 / Available on YouTube and Spotify


65. ColinIsCool: Bruce Springsteen - The Wild, the Innocent and the E-Street Shuffle / 1973 / pop/rock, singer/songwriter, jazz rock / 7 tracks / Spotify and YouTube
66. Nutella: The Books - Thought for Food / 2002 / aleatoric/folktronica/sound collage / 12 tracks / 38:31 / available on spotify, youtube and bandcamp
67. G-Man: Chumbawamba - Tubthumper / 1997 / anarcho-punk/dance-pop / 12 tracks / 58:49 / available on YouTube and Spotify
68. JaggedJimmyJay: There Will Be Fireworks - The Dark, Dark Bright - 2013 / Indie rock / 12 tracks / 48:26 / YouTube and Spotify
69. Speedchuck: Alan Parson's Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination / 1976 / Progressive Rock / 11 tracks (on youtube) / 42:38 / available on Youtube
70. M Plus 7: M Plus 7 - Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out / 2000 / Indie Rock/Dream Pop / 13 tracks / 77:15 / Available on Youtube and Spotify

Love it. Let's do it.

I'd be down

I'm in.

Funny you bring this up, Sockface and I just got into rating albums this week.

I'm in.

I'm glad to see this getting some support.

If y'all like, we can just start throwing out nominations now. I'll say we can take nominations until 2 PM EST on Saturday (could be extended if necessary). If we have more than 5 nominations by that point, we'll do a poll to determine which 5 we will start with and in what order.

Please, no more than one nomination per person. I'll get us started:

Nominations:

Crowded House - Woodface
Corinne Bailey Rae - The Heart Speaks In Whispers
deadmau5 - > album title goes here <

I would do a non prog nomination and then I would be voted down but most of my music listening takes place in a different space.

Oh well, why not.

Corinne Bailey Rae - The Heart Speaks In Whispers

Don't worry, you're not the only curmudgeonly prog hater around.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Don't worry, you're not the only curmudgeonly prog hater around.

I like prog.

Golden wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Don't worry, you're not the only curmudgeonly prog hater around.

I like prog.

No, no, no, you hate it. I tell you what your opinions are.

I don't know why you need a nomination and voting phase. No offense, but I think that's silly and going to keep you bogged down. Get the first x number of people to recommend one album each and use that.

I mean...what are you voting on if you (presumably) haven't heard the offerings before? And if you have heard them, doesn't that make you biased?

I don't know. This would be more interesting if you just invited people to list one album, and it goes in the queue.

And a week? How long does it take you to listen to a record a few times and form an opinion? It took me over a year to appreciate Jethro Tull's A Passion Play, but I get the impression most of you won't be giving us A Passion Play.

My two cents worth.

I'd be fine with skipping the nomination/poll. My only intent was to prevent 80 nominations from coming in and leaving us with an immensely long list. If it's capped at whatever number, maybe still 5, then sure I don't object to that. All in favor say aye.

As for the duration, I don't see a viable alternative. It definitely takes more than a week to get properly acquainted with some things, but it isn't reasonable to spend that much time on one album for an exercise like this. It's only meant as an introduction to the music anyway.

Or you may have meant to suggest that a week is too long?

If so, could be. I left that much time because people have things to do and lives to lead; I don't know how often y'all actually sit down to listen to albums. If that's more time than is necessary then I am open to changing that too.

A week is too long, was what I was saying. Albums take 40-78 minutes to listen to in most cases, and most people will be listening while doing other things. I guarantee you a week to listen and comment will drag your thread into the territory of "Oh I meant to get to it but forgot" more often than you would like.

I wouldn't want to go much shorter than a week. Music does take time to digest, I'd want to listen to it, let it sit, listen to it again.

Here's a non-prog album, and my nomination for the week.

deadmau5 - > album title goes here <

How about 5 days? A bit more difficult to track, but I guess it's still just basic math.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:How about 5 days? A bit more difficult to track, but I guess it's still just basic math.

Not differential calculus? Are you sure?

Golden wrote:I wouldn't want to go much shorter than a week. Music does take time to digest, I'd want to listen to it, let it sit, listen to it again.

Ariana Grande doesn't take a week to digest, Golden.

Truly all the details aren't that important, I just want to listen to music.

Epignosis wrote:

Golden wrote:I wouldn't want to go much shorter than a week. Music does take time to digest, I'd want to listen to it, let it sit, listen to it again.

Ariana Grande doesn't take a week to digest, Golden.

You wouldn't....

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Truly all the details aren't that important, I just want to listen to music.

Get a queue going. Same as the speed queue.

Nominations/Queue/Whatever:

Crowded House - Woodface (on Spotify or I can individually link YouTube videos when the time comes)
Corinne Bailey Rae - The Heart Speaks In Whispers
deadmau5 - > album title goes here <
Echolyn - Echolyn
The Family Crest - Beneath the Brine (Spotify and YouTube)

My suggestion:

Echolyn- Echolyn

Links would be nice too.

I nominate: The Family Crest - Beneath the Brine (available on spotify/yt)

Jethro Tull - A Passion Play

My recommendation:

Fishmans - 98.12.28 男達の別れ (98.12.28 Otokotachi no Wakare)

RYM
Youtube

Goat - World Music (on Spotify)

What would the verdict be on finding an incomplete playlist on YouTube and then linking to a separate video of the missing song if that missing song belongs in the middle of the playlist? Are we trying to listen to the album in song list order? If so, the idea I have in mind would require listening to five songs, pausing the playlist, listening to an individual video, then resuming the playlist. I have a back-up album in mind but it's not quite as good as my preferred choice. I don't want to create too much work for people.

MovingPictures07 wrote:My recommendation:

Fishmans - 98.12.28 男達の別れ (98.12.28 Otokotachi no Wakare)

RYM
Youtube

G-Man wrote:What would the verdict be on finding an incomplete playlist on YouTube and then linking to a separate video of the missing song if that missing song belongs in the middle of the playlist? Are we trying to listen to the album in song list order? If so, the idea I have in mind would require listening to five songs, pausing the playlist, listening to an individual video, then resuming the playlist. I have a back-up album in mind but it's not quite as good as my preferred choice. I don't want to create too much work for people.

I have to listen to an album in one sitting and in order; I'm one of those weirdos that views the album as the ultimate vehicle by which to deliver music. But that's alright with me, depends on what everyone else thinks.

The album I recommended is not standard either in that it's live and just over two hours long, but I couldn't not recommend it. I still think that's doable for a week, but by all means, I can pick a different one if you all think that's too much. I think we can get into specific grievances or preferences when it comes time to vote though, right? Maybe Jay can advise there as to what he was envisioning.

Scott Walker - Bish Bosch (on Spotify)

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:My recommendation:

Fishmans - 98.12.28 男達の別れ (98.12.28 Otokotachi no Wakare)

RYM
Youtube

insertnamehere wrote:Scott Walker - Bish Bosch (on Spotify)

Oh man, love me some Scott Walker, but I haven't heard that one somehow. Consider me intrigued.

insertnamehere wrote:Scott Walker - Bish Bosch (on Spotify)

Oh fuck yes.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:Scott Walker - Bish Bosch (on Spotify)

Oh man, love me some Scott Walker, but I haven't heard that one somehow. Consider me intrigued.

Pretty much depends which kind of Scott Walker do you love you some.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

G-Man wrote:What would the verdict be on finding an incomplete playlist on YouTube and then linking to a separate video of the missing song if that missing song belongs in the middle of the playlist? Are we trying to listen to the album in song list order? If so, the idea I have in mind would require listening to five songs, pausing the playlist, listening to an individual video, then resuming the playlist. I have a back-up album in mind but it's not quite as good as my preferred choice. I don't want to create too much work for people.

I have to listen to an album in one sitting and in order; I'm one of those weirdos that views the album as the ultimate vehicle by which to deliver music. But that's alright with me, depends on what everyone else thinks.

The album I recommended is not standard either in that it's live and just over two hours long, but I couldn't not recommend it. I still think that's doable for a week, but by all means, I can pick a different one if you all think that's too much. I think we can get into specific grievances or preferences when it comes time to vote though, right? Maybe Jay can advise there as to what he was envisioning.

I prefer listening to an album straight through as well. I guess I've gotten used to partial playlists and searching for individual tracks as I've been working through my Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame list. YouTube is lacking in the 'oldies' department.

I'll wait and see what Jimmy says.

My nomination/submission is The Crazy World of Arthur Brown. The album starts at 18:54 in that link, because for some reason the CD reissue puts the bonus tracks at the beginning instead of the end.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Nominations/Queue/Whatever:

Crowded House - Woodface (on Spotify or I can individually link YouTube videos when the time comes)
Corinne Bailey Rae - The Heart Speaks In Whispers
deadmau5 - > album title goes here <
Echolyn - Echolyn
The Family Crest - Beneath the Brine (Spotify and YouTube)

I added some Youtube links for these albums.

I definitely had an answer in there. Stupid phone.

That's fine with me G-Man.

Nominations/Queue/Whatever:

~ JJJ - Crowded House - Woodface / 1991 / Rock-oriented pop / 14 tracks / 48:11 / (on Spotify or I can individually link YouTube videos when the time comes)
~ Golden - Corinne Bailey Rae - The Heart Speaks In Whispers / 2016 / Neo-soul / 12 tracks / 55:31
~ Marmot - deadmau5 - > album title goes here < / 2012 / House / 13 tracks / 79:53
~ Epignosis - Echolyn - Echolyn / 2012 / Progressive rock / 8 tracks / 70:44
~ nutella - The Family Crest - Beneath the Brine / 2014 / Chamber pop/Indie rock / 11 tracks / 53:12 / (Spotify and YouTube)
~ Ricochet - Jethro Tull - A Passion Play / 1973 / Progressive rock / 4 tracks / 45:11 / (Spotify)
~ MP07 - Fishmans - 98.12.28 Otokotachi no Wakare / 1999 / Dream pop / 14 tracks / 2:10:19
~ Boomslang - Goat - World Music / 2012 / Psychedelic rock / 9 tracks / 37:10 / (Spotify)
~ INH - Scott Walker - Bish Bosch / Experimental / 9 tracks / 73:04 / (Spotify)
~ llama - Arthur Brown - The Crazy World of Arthur Brown / Psychedelic rock / 1968 / 10 tracks / 36:39
~ G-Man - Chuck Berry - Chuck Berry Is on Top (YouTube Playlist- Listen to the first six tracks (through Johnny B Goode), then listen to this solo track (Little Queenie), then resume the playlist.) 1959 / Rock and roll / 12 tracks / 29:26
~ trice - The Kinks - Arthur / 1969 / Rock-oriented pop / 12 tracks / 48:43

That's 11 submissions, which I think is plenty for now no matter how we proceed.

So lemme know everyone, how would you prefer to do this?

~ Shall we go with a hard queue as above?
~ Shall we do a poll vote to cut it down and then revisit the rest later?
~ How many days do you want to spend on each album?

These details mean little to me, so I am very open to your preferences.

Note: if we end up doing a poll, I would gather some basic information about each album to make the choices feel a little less abitrary:

- Release year
- [Parent] genre
- Number of tracks
- Duration

If anyone wants access to these little "Spotify" nuggets we're dropping that doesn't already have it, I'm pretty sure it's free if you don't mind a commercial here and there.

I don't work for that organization.

I don't have a problem with a poll, but it should not last longer than a day to keep things moving. I don't object to weekly listens, because people are busy. Mayb poll goes up on Monday, listening begins on Tuesday, discussion and Wrap-up on Friday, weekends off.

Also, anyone who voted yes in the poll that hasn't submitted an album yet, please go ahead and do so. Don't let me stop ya.

I've long held the belief that you can't appreciate where things are now without an understanding (if not an appreciation) of the past. My submission:

Chuck Berry
Chuck Berry Is on Top
Genre: Rock and roll
1959
12 tracks
29:26

YouTube Playlist- Listen to the first six tracks (through Johnny B Goode), then listen to this solo track (Little Queenie), then resume the playlist.

Sorry for the split-up nature of this submission. This is my favorite of Berry's albums. I almost submitted his first album, After School Session, but I feel like this is album (his third) is a tad better.

thellama73 wrote:I don't have a problem with a poll, but it should not last longer than a day to keep things moving. I don't object to weekly listens, because people are busy. Mayb poll goes up on Monday, listening begins on Tuesday, discussion and Wrap-up on Friday, weekends off.

This sounds good to me.

But it's up to you all, I'm flexible. I have time to listen to tons of music currently, so I can do this or a more quickly paced version.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Note: if we end up doing a poll, I would gather some basic information about each album to make the choices feel a little less abitrary:

- Release year
- [Parent] genre
- Number of tracks
- Duration

Also, I agree with this being a good idea.

G-Man wrote:I've long held the belief that you can't appreciate where things are now without an understanding (if not an appreciation) of the past. My submission:

Chuck Berry
Chuck Berry Is on Top
Genre: Rock and roll
1959
12 tracks
29:26

YouTube Playlist- Listen to the first six tracks (through Johnny B Goode), then listen to this solo track (Little Queenie), then resume the playlist.

Sorry for the split-up nature of this submission. This is my favorite of Berry's albums. I almost submitted his first album, After School Session, but I feel like this is album (his third) is a tad better.

Ah, the good old days when an album could get away with being under a half hour. I really hate the expectation thta all albums clock in at 70 minutes these days, and think it has been detrimental to music. I generally think the perfect album length is between 35-40 minutes.