Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[TonyStarkPrime]

I owe someone a thing. I was going to do this before eod0 but then I fell asleep. The best laid plans...

pros: limited
cons: f3 thrower
gameplan: sheep smart people then make a passionate case on d3 and get a townie chopped

Wait you are still alive? Aren't you supposed to get lynched the moment you say mafia or "maphia"

after that game three people tried it in other games and it didn't work so well for them

Sounds like a threat.

it's like a past tense threat

[Poison]

I owe someone a thing. I was going to do this before eod0 but then I fell asleep. The best laid plans...

pros: limited
cons: f3 thrower
gameplan: sheep smart people then make a passionate case on d3 and get a townie chopped

Wait you are still alive? Aren't you supposed to get lynched the moment you say mafia or "maphia"

after that game three people tried it in other games and it didn't work so well for them

Try it till you make it!

[Sloonei]

i want you to tell me first

because if i tell you what it is, then you could just say "that was my concern!', even if it wasn't

But I am town, I wouldn't do that.

the only way to prove that is to tell me what your concern is

If that's all it takes to prove town status, then it's a low threshold

i would only townread him for it if his concern was the exact concern that i was expecting town!sloonei to have. sadly, it wasn't

But I haven't said what it was yet.

And you also said you are town reading me anyway.

[Poison]

I owe someone a thing. I was going to do this before eod0 but then I fell asleep. The best laid plans...

pros: limited
cons: f3 thrower
gameplan: sheep smart people then make a passionate case on d3 and get a townie chopped

Wait you are still alive? Aren't you supposed to get lynched the moment you say mafia or "maphia"

after that game three people tried it in other games and it didn't work so well for them

Sounds like a threat.

it's like a past tense threat

Oh boi. I lost my grammar book.

[staypositivefriend]

i want you to tell me first

because if i tell you what it is, then you could just say "that was my concern!', even if it wasn't

But I am town, I wouldn't do that.

the only way to prove that is to tell me what your concern is

If that's all it takes to prove town status, then it's a low threshold

i would only townread him for it if his concern was the exact concern that i was expecting town!sloonei to have. sadly, it wasn't

But I haven't said what it was yet.

And you also said you are town reading me anyway.

i assumed that the question you asked me ~was~ the aforementioned concern

and that's true, i would just townread you more if it was what i thought it was

[Long Con]

I kinda regret this

Why, did you rand scum?

I prefer scum homie

she's not lying

kza town read is cause of this post where he very casually gave information to defend me

towny because he felt prompted to say something in it without a clear motive

so I figure the motive is a genuine want for discussion

Which discussion? Whether you prefer scum roles or not? It's towny to want to delve deeper into that? Was he even doing that?? His comment sounds quite offhanded to me, not indicative of "genuine want for discussion" or an opposition to it. Are you sure this is a real read?

[Poison]

[VOTE: c4e5g3d5] aubergine

Poison & Long Con are mafia as well.
TSP is a maybe

why are poison & long con mafia

Their posts are bad.
I guess you agree on c4 since you didn't ask about that one

I think you should look again, mine are all 100% pure town. Wine from the towny vine, and steaks from purebred town cows, raised in Town.

sloonei is mafia

No, I don't believe he is.

Re: poisen and LC mafia

CHAOS!!!!!!!

[TonyStarkPrime]

no more dancing allowed in the thread

[Esooa]

Pros: Yes
Cons: Long
Gameplan: N/A
Misc.: Data missing

My dating app matched us up for same Cons. Wanna mason?

I am actually going to slap a serious-but-early town read on LC for this post. Casual joke from the implicit perspective of a civilian on Day 0. I like Bachelor #1 here.

I scum read sloonei for this post. Saying someone is towny for something like mentioning masons being implicit town perspective just seems fake. It's a completely normal and easy thing to do, that I don't really feel like portrays a towny perspective the way sloonei does.

[c4e5g3d5]

c4 if you want discussion why didn't you prompt me to talk about my read

Because I read it and understood it and talking about reads that everyone should understand upon reading is a good way to waste time and threadspace while pretending to be productive.

I just posted my read

did you have the same reason? did me explaining what I just did give you nothing? what did you understand exactly?

Thought you were talking about your falcon read one sec

[MacDougall]

Poison is mafia.

[Long Con]

[VOTE: c4e5g3d5] aubergine

Poison & Long Con are mafia as well.
TSP is a maybe

why are poison & long con mafia

Their posts are bad.
I guess you agree on c4 since you didn't ask about that one

I think you should look again, mine are all 100% pure town. Wine from the towny vine, and steaks from purebred town cows, raised in Town.

sloonei is mafia

No, I don't believe he is.

Re: poisen and LC mafia

CHAOS!!!!!!!

[Sloonei]

no more dancing allowed in the thread

[MacDougall]

Also Alison is mafia.

[MacDougall]

Holy crap @Dom is playing. Welcome back.

[Sloonei]

Pros: Yes
Cons: Long
Gameplan: N/A
Misc.: Data missing

My dating app matched us up for same Cons. Wanna mason?

I am actually going to slap a serious-but-early town read on LC for this post. Casual joke from the implicit perspective of a civilian on Day 0. I like Bachelor #1 here.

I scum read sloonei for this post. Saying someone is towny for something like mentioning masons being implicit town perspective just seems fake. It's a completely normal and easy thing to do, that I don't really feel like portrays a towny perspective the way sloonei does.

Yes it does.

[MacDougall]

And Spacedaisy! Wow. What's the occasion. Are you all here to celebrate my glory?

[Long Con]

Pros: Yes
Cons: Long
Gameplan: N/A
Misc.: Data missing

My dating app matched us up for same Cons. Wanna mason?

I am actually going to slap a serious-but-early town read on LC for this post. Casual joke from the implicit perspective of a civilian on Day 0. I like Bachelor #1 here.

I scum read sloonei for this post. Saying someone is towny for something like mentioning masons being implicit town perspective just seems fake. It's a completely normal and easy thing to do, that I don't really feel like portrays a towny perspective the way sloonei does.

Hmmm.. maybe. I like it better than Mac's take.

[Esooa]

I kinda regret this

Why, did you rand scum?

I prefer scum homie

she's not lying

kza town read is cause of this post where he very casually gave information to defend me

towny because he felt prompted to say something in it without a clear motive

so I figure the motive is a genuine want for discussion

Which discussion? Whether you prefer scum roles or not? It's towny to want to delve deeper into that? Was he even doing that?? His comment sounds quite offhanded to me, not indicative of "genuine want for discussion" or an opposition to it. Are you sure this is a real read?

yes, the discussion is relating to my alignment, or you know, solving. And the off handed nature of it is why it's genuine. He did it because he wanted to. He didn't have any clear goal with his read

[Urist]

Stealing mac's reads too tyty

[Poison]

Poison is mafia.

YEYYYY

so would they put me in jail, cause boi I need some alone time to reflect on things.

[Esooa]

I kinda regret this

Why, did you rand scum?

I prefer scum homie

she's not lying

kza town read is cause of this post where he very casually gave information to defend me

towny because he felt prompted to say something in it without a clear motive

so I figure the motive is a genuine want for discussion

Which discussion? Whether you prefer scum roles or not? It's towny to want to delve deeper into that? Was he even doing that?? His comment sounds quite offhanded to me, not indicative of "genuine want for discussion" or an opposition to it. Are you sure this is a real read?

yes, the discussion is relating to my alignment, or you know, solving. And the off handed nature of it is why it's genuine. He did it because he wanted to. He didn't have any clear goal with his read

or, not read, but post

[MacDougall]

Pros: Yes
Cons: Long
Gameplan: N/A
Misc.: Data missing

My dating app matched us up for same Cons. Wanna mason?

I am actually going to slap a serious-but-early town read on LC for this post. Casual joke from the implicit perspective of a civilian on Day 0. I like Bachelor #1 here.

I scum read sloonei for this post. Saying someone is towny for something like mentioning masons being implicit town perspective just seems fake. It's a completely normal and easy thing to do, that I don't really feel like portrays a towny perspective the way sloonei does.

Hmmm.. maybe. I like it better than Mac's take.

You like Esooa's actual reasons better than my post that contained nothing? And felt the need to express that?

LC mafia. Ez game.

[falcon45ca]

I like all of esooa's reads btw

Has she given any outside of Kaz?



This is Wolfy pocket attempt IMO

[Long Con]

I kinda regret this

Why, did you rand scum?

I prefer scum homie

she's not lying

kza town read is cause of this post where he very casually gave information to defend me

towny because he felt prompted to say something in it without a clear motive

so I figure the motive is a genuine want for discussion

Which discussion? Whether you prefer scum roles or not? It's towny to want to delve deeper into that? Was he even doing that?? His comment sounds quite offhanded to me, not indicative of "genuine want for discussion" or an opposition to it. Are you sure this is a real read?

yes, the discussion is relating to my alignment, or you know, solving. And the off handed nature of it is why it's genuine. He did it because he wanted to. He didn't have any clear goal with his read

Now you seem to be contradicting yourself.

How can he display a motive of genuine want for discussion and also have no clear goal with his read?

[VOTE: esooa] aubergine You're being fishy.

[Long Con]

Pros: Yes
Cons: Long
Gameplan: N/A
Misc.: Data missing

My dating app matched us up for same Cons. Wanna mason?

I am actually going to slap a serious-but-early town read on LC for this post. Casual joke from the implicit perspective of a civilian on Day 0. I like Bachelor #1 here.

I scum read sloonei for this post. Saying someone is towny for something like mentioning masons being implicit town perspective just seems fake. It's a completely normal and easy thing to do, that I don't really feel like portrays a towny perspective the way sloonei does.

Hmmm.. maybe. I like it better than Mac's take.

You like Esooa's actual reasons better than my post that contained nothing? And felt the need to express that?

LC mafia. Ez game.

I knew I had extended too far. Joseph.

[Esooa]

I like all of esooa's reads btw

Has she given any outside of Kaz?



This is Wolfy pocket attempt IMO

I assumed it was my natural agreeableness that prompted them to say that but this did cross my mind too

[Urist]

Mac is stealing my reads tho what do i do

[Esooa]

I kinda regret this

Why, did you rand scum?

I prefer scum homie

she's not lying

kza town read is cause of this post where he very casually gave information to defend me

towny because he felt prompted to say something in it without a clear motive

so I figure the motive is a genuine want for discussion

Which discussion? Whether you prefer scum roles or not? It's towny to want to delve deeper into that? Was he even doing that?? His comment sounds quite offhanded to me, not indicative of "genuine want for discussion" or an opposition to it. Are you sure this is a real read?

yes, the discussion is relating to my alignment, or you know, solving. And the off handed nature of it is why it's genuine. He did it because he wanted to. He didn't have any clear goal with his read

Now you seem to be contradicting yourself.

How can he display a motive of genuine want for discussion and also have no clear goal with his read?

[VOTE: esooa] aubergine You're being fishy.

you don't really get what I'm saying so

[MacDougall]

Mac is stealing my reads tho what do i do

Just stan me like everyone else.

[Esooa]

Mac is stealing my reads tho what do i do

Just stan me like everyone else.

[Urist]

I like all of esooa's reads btw

Has she given any outside of Kaz?



This is Wolfy pocket attempt IMO

I thought she had suggested sloon mafia which is the main thing I was getting at, but it was mac who initially suggested that apparently

[Long Con]

Why, did you rand scum?

I prefer scum homie

she's not lying

kza town read is cause of this post where he very casually gave information to defend me

towny because he felt prompted to say something in it without a clear motive

so I figure the motive is a genuine want for discussion

Which discussion? Whether you prefer scum roles or not? It's towny to want to delve deeper into that? Was he even doing that?? His comment sounds quite offhanded to me, not indicative of "genuine want for discussion" or an opposition to it. Are you sure this is a real read?

yes, the discussion is relating to my alignment, or you know, solving. And the off handed nature of it is why it's genuine. He did it because he wanted to. He didn't have any clear goal with his read

Now you seem to be contradicting yourself.

How can he display a motive of genuine want for discussion and also have no clear goal with his read?

[VOTE: esooa] aubergine You're being fishy.

you don't really get what I'm saying so

Like, you don't even consider that it's a casual pocket attempt?

[Esooa]

I like all of esooa's reads btw

Has she given any outside of Kaz?



This is Wolfy pocket attempt IMO

I thought she had suggested sloon mafia which is the main thing I was getting at, but it was mac who initially suggested that apparently

I did agree with it though

[c4e5g3d5]

I kinda regret this

Why, did you rand scum?

I prefer scum homie

she's not lying

kza town read is cause of this post where he very casually gave information to defend me

towny because he felt prompted to say something in it without a clear motive

so I figure the motive is a genuine want for discussion

Which discussion? Whether you prefer scum roles or not? It's towny to want to delve deeper into that? Was he even doing that?? His comment sounds quite offhanded to me, not indicative of "genuine want for discussion" or an opposition to it. Are you sure this is a real read?

yes, the discussion is relating to my alignment, or you know, solving. And the off handed nature of it is why it's genuine. He did it because he wanted to. He didn't have any clear goal with his read

Now you seem to be contradicting yourself.

How can he display a motive of genuine want for discussion and also have no clear goal with his read?

[VOTE: esooa] aubergine You're being fishy.

Okay cool you found what looks like a contradiction if you squint now say what's actually scum-indicative about it.

[Sloonei]

two primary reasons:

1. cloaking my townreads in ambiguity almost always gets interesting and telling interactions out of people. in this case, i think that foresight's intense amount of stress that only grew larger as i refused to directly answer his question is likely to come from a town indicative place. his irritation felt completely authentic- i honestly don't think that foresight would care that much at all if he was playing from a scum mindset

2. one of my early townleans was on you, but i felt uncomfortable outing that early into the game for a number of reasons. (partially out of the vanity of not wanting to be wrong). the other was on foresight

My concern, as TSP alludes to, is that spf's secret town reads maneuver is something I do often, and notably did in the Champs Finale to the frustration of about half the roster. Part of me feels like spf is mirroring my town meta here, maybe unconsciously, as a way to earn my trust.

We have played... three? games together. Two were in the Champs setting (both town/town), and more recently we were scum partners in Grasslands here on The Syndicate. When we've been town together, we were both distinctly aware of one another (I think. I was aware of her, at least) because our playstyles are similar. I would expect a mafia staypositivefriend to be hyper aware of my perception of her in this game, in what would be the first game we've ever been aligned opposite each other. So kicking the game off by doing a combative thing that Town Sloonei does for attention would be a viable way to do that.

Except, like Foresight says, there really wasn't much call for that play here. When I did it in Champs, the thread was moving at a breakneck pace, but I felt it was lacking traction. I did it to slow things down and get people to focus on particular issues. This thread was not moving at a fast pace when spf dropped her post. If anything, it needed more spiciness.

I'm also unclear why she was hesitant to declare a town read on me a half hour ago, but is comfortable doing so now.

[Urist]

Mac is stealing my reads tho what do i do

Just stan me like everyone else.

Vote someone so i can sheep pls

[Esooa]

Like, you don't even consider that it's a casual pocket attempt?

considered it. Didn't think it was. It was too casual, not flattering or showy, and it's not really a thing I'd imagine kza thinks would pocket me

[Sloonei]

MacDougall now town-reads me.

[Long Con]

Why, did you rand scum?

I prefer scum homie

she's not lying

kza town read is cause of this post where he very casually gave information to defend me

towny because he felt prompted to say something in it without a clear motive

so I figure the motive is a genuine want for discussion

Which discussion? Whether you prefer scum roles or not? It's towny to want to delve deeper into that? Was he even doing that?? His comment sounds quite offhanded to me, not indicative of "genuine want for discussion" or an opposition to it. Are you sure this is a real read?

yes, the discussion is relating to my alignment, or you know, solving. And the off handed nature of it is why it's genuine. He did it because he wanted to. He didn't have any clear goal with his read

Now you seem to be contradicting yourself.

How can he display a motive of genuine want for discussion and also have no clear goal with his read?

[VOTE: esooa] aubergine You're being fishy.

Okay cool you found what looks like a contradiction if you squint now say what's actually scum-indicative about it.

Again, that would indicate it's not a real read. Like wolves. Have to make up reads.

[Long Con]

Like, you don't even consider that it's a casual pocket attempt?

considered it. Didn't think it was. It was too casual, not flattering or showy, and it's not really a thing I'd imagine kza thinks would pocket me

I guess now he knows better.

[Esooa]

dislike lc so far

[Esooa]

lc can you talk about your approach to this game?

[Long Con]

dislike lc so far

As a person or as an alignment?

[BoKnows]

[VOTE: KZA] aubergine

Towning something bro

towning 24/7 365.

I'm town :cheers:

Would you tell us if you weren't?

no

[Long Con]

lc can you talk about your approach to this game?

I'd do better if you ask more specific questions. Self-analysis is not a strength of mine.

[Esooa]

dislike lc so far

As a person or as an alignment?

I think you're pretty cool but the seriousness you're expressing at the start of the first day is making me question you

[Long Con]

lc can you talk about your approach to this game?

Oh: "say things I think" is my main plan, I think.

[Esooa]

lc can you talk about your approach to this game?

I'd do better if you ask more specific questions. Self-analysis is not a strength of mine.

well as I just said I feel like you're oddly serious right now

do you agree? Why do you think that is?

[Long Con]

dislike lc so far

As a person or as an alignment?

I think you're pretty cool but the seriousness you're expressing at the start of the first day is making me question you

Question my coolness or question my alignment???