The Syndicate

Name: Disney Mafia

Phase: 48/24

Start Date: March 21st of 2021

SoD/SoN: 06:00 PM (PST)

Number of Players: 13

Post Limit: 100 per day phase per player
They rollover, meaning if you posted only 10 on Day 1, you will have a total of 190 post cap on Day 2 and so on.
Don't go over your post allowance please or there will be consequences (This host wants to kill people too, you know?)

If no majority: Players sleep (majority counts as 50% + 1)

Majority Ends Day Early: No

Votes Lock at Lylo: No

Will be informed of Lylo: No

Role reveals: Full.

Full Cop Results: Alignment and Role (Not the modifier).
* If Mafia goon is tailored the result will be "Town Vanilla".
* If Town Vanilla is tailored the result will be "Mafia Goon".
* If Full Cop's target is killed the same night, the cop will get no result.

Mafia Factional Kill: Mandatory but not assigned. If no target is selected one random townie player will be killed.

Mafia Chat: 24/7 (Discord Mandatory)

Graveyard Chat: Yes. Unspoiled.

Role Claiming: Allowed

Character Claiming: Allowed. Be advised, do not assume a character has an alignment that is logical to them as anyone can be scum.

Voting: You may vote in the thread for the sake of transparency but your last vote submitted to me over a private message will be the one that will be counted. A final vote count will be posted to the thread before the day elimination is announced, fear not!

Twilight Posting: No

Open Night: No

Outside Of Thread Communication: Mafia Only

Order Of Operations:

1) Tailor
2) Factional Kill
3) Cop
4) Backup



Town

x1 Town Full Cop (Investigates Alignment and Role name)
x1 Town Vanilla (with Backup modifier)
x8 Town Vanilla

Mafia

x1 Mafia Tailor: Causes a player to be viewed as the opposite of their true alignment if investigated by the Full Cop on that same night, cannot self target.
x1 Mafia Goon (w/ Backup modifier)
x1 Mafia Goon

What's a backup modifier?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:51 pm What's a backup modifier?

Usually means that player takes over the power role if/when the power role dies.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:51 pm What's a backup modifier?

Inherits the PR of his faction when the original owner dies.

Whats the pro for votes being privately sent to u instead of using the poll? Both dont leave a foot print. Unless mafia being able to lie about their votes is your intention?

there's an option to make the poll anonymous as well if that is the intention. no one know anyone who voted.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:41 am Whats the pro for votes being privately sent to u instead of using the poll? Both dont leave a foot print. Unless mafia being able to lie about their votes is your intention?

It's for two reasons.

1) I dont feel comfortable using the poll. I saw how it was an issue for the host in spider-verseand he has experience hosting here, plus having to screen shot the final poll and provide it for the players, it is just extra unnecessary work for me. A final private vote makes it easy for me to accurately eliminate the intended player without having to read pages of content looking for votes.

2) The added strategy for players being able to lie about it.

i find screenshotting the poll difficult too, so i just copypaste the results.

totally up to you though.

an anonymous poll doesnt allow lies, so yeah.

that would be interesting to spec!

I'll be out of town the week this starts, but would love to spec.

@Actvscenei this looks right up your alley!

Might have to drop to maybe. Private votes for a full game mechanic presents a lot of issues (I implemented it for a small portion of Inception Mafia with numerous stipulations), particularly if the mafia team is able to place whatever fake votes they want with no limitations. That might bear some further expansion/description.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:17 pm Might have to drop to maybe. Private votes for a full game mechanic presents a lot of issues (I implemented it for a small portion of Inception Mafia with numerous stipulations), particularly if the mafia team is able to place whatever fake votes they want with no limitations. That might bear some further expansion/description.

Ok so here is an example.

Say I'm mafia, you are town and dunya is another mafia. I vote publicly against dunya, but I may vote secretly against you.
At the end of the day the host post a final vote count with the real votes that were secretly submitted and eliminate the player with most votes.
Then you guys will realize that I privately voted for someone totally different than my public vote target.

Town can as easily lie about their public vote as mafia can.

There is no other mechanics, conditions, limitations, it comes down to whether you wanna be transparent about your private vote when you claim it.

Here is a game that I played with that voting mechanic which was run by @Michelle

https://animebase.me/threads/death-note ... 34.779145/

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:45 pm Here is a game that I played with that voting mechanic which was run by @Michelle

https://animebase.me/threads/death-note ... 34.779145/

Actually i didn't invented it, i took it from Gare aux Garous where I played only with this voting system, in small games under 15 players.

Yes plz

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:39 pm Ok so here is an example.

Say I'm mafia, you are town and dunya is another mafia. I vote publicly against dunya, but I may vote secretly against you.
At the end of the day the host post a final vote count with the real votes that were secretly submitted and eliminate the player with most votes.
Then you guys will realize that I privately voted for someone totally different than my public vote target.

Town can as easily lie about their public vote as mafia can.

There is no other mechanics, conditions, limitations, it comes down to whether you wanna be transparent about your private vote when you claim it.

Okay so to be totally clear, the actual votes will be made public at the end of the day including the names of the players who placed them?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:38 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:39 pm Ok so here is an example.

Say I'm mafia, you are town and dunya is another mafia. I vote publicly against dunya, but I may vote secretly against you.
At the end of the day the host post a final vote count with the real votes that were secretly submitted and eliminate the player with most votes.
Then you guys will realize that I privately voted for someone totally different than my public vote target.

Town can as easily lie about their public vote as mafia can.

There is no other mechanics, conditions, limitations, it comes down to whether you wanna be transparent about your private vote when you claim it.

Okay so to be totally clear, the actual votes will be made public at the end of the day including the names of the players who placed them?

Yes sir!

I don't really like the private voting thing but I do like the premise

If you need one more ping me and I won't be able to resist

I am less perturbed knowing the real votes will be publicized so if people lie everyone will immediately know it.

/in

I am pregame committing to policy exeing anyone who lies about their vote for any reason and isn't an un-CC'd Cop. In this way we hopefully have a pretty standard voting experience and everyone tells the truth.

Do backups know they are backups?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:06 am /in

I am pregame committing to policy exeing anyone who lies about their vote for any reason and isn't an un-CC'd Cop. In this way we hopefully have a pretty standard voting experience and everyone tells the truth.

Do backups know they are backups?

Yes, they do know

The first game I ever hosted was a Disney Mafia on a now defunct site over 10 years ago, so a large part of me wants to say yes just for the nostalgia. But I’m already signed up for another game, so I’ll vote maybe for now and see if I’m alive/players are needed closer to the start date.

Oh there is no maybe, just sub.

I am 1000000% ready to make my first Syndicate game a Disney game!! (I’m a massive Disney fan. This is exciting haha)

Scirrus wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:28 pm @Actvscenei this looks right up your alley!

Thank you, Scirrus!!! I’m hyped. Lol I’m literally right in the middle of planning for a Disney World trip in roughly a month along with two hopeful Disney cruises summer 2022 — the planning process has me doing all things Disney (watching Disney videos, looking at past pictures, listening to Disney music lol) so I may as well complete the obsessive behavior by playing a Disney mafia game

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:12 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:41 am Whats the pro for votes being privately sent to u instead of using the poll? Both dont leave a foot print. Unless mafia being able to lie about their votes is your intention?

It's for two reasons.

1) I dont feel comfortable using the poll. I saw how it was an issue for the host in spider-verseand he has experience hosting here, plus having to screen shot the final poll and provide it for the players, it is just extra unnecessary work for me. A final private vote makes it easy for me to accurately eliminate the intended player without having to read pages of content looking for votes.

2) The added strategy for players being able to lie about it.

Do you post the VC at Eod?

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:12 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:41 am Whats the pro for votes being privately sent to u instead of using the poll? Both dont leave a foot print. Unless mafia being able to lie about their votes is your intention?

It's for two reasons.

1) I dont feel comfortable using the poll. I saw how it was an issue for the host in spider-verseand he has experience hosting here, plus having to screen shot the final poll and provide it for the players, it is just extra unnecessary work for me. A final private vote makes it easy for me to accurately eliminate the intended player without having to read pages of content looking for votes.

2) The added strategy for players being able to lie about it.

Do you post the VC at Eod?

Yup

Cool

I had an idea at one point for a series of Disney Villains heist games. I’ve seen every Disney animated theatrical release except for Soul. I’m a maybe for now. I got a little confused by all the OP details. If my old-man brain can make sense of it, I may flip to yes.

I get it guys, the voting system is outside of your comfort zone, but that is the only way i can run it as this month and next will be really busy for me. If you guys don't wanna play it as proposed, im ok with skipping my turn and let the next guy in line host a game best suited for how you play here. No hard feelings.

Looks like this is not going to fill up. So im stepping down from this hosting slot and letting another host waiting in line to host theirs.

Cheers

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:42 am Looks like this is not going to fill up. So im stepping down from this hosting slot and letting another host waiting in line to host theirs.

Cheers

Sometimes games can fill slowly, particularly when the site has a number of them already active. We could give this a little more time if you are okay with that! If you really would prefer to step down though, let me know and we can move forward.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:42 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:42 am Looks like this is not going to fill up. So im stepping down from this hosting slot and letting another host waiting in line to host theirs.

Cheers

Sometimes games can fill slowly, particularly when the site has a number of them already active. We could give this a little more time if you are okay with that! If you really would prefer to step down though, let me know and we can move forward.

I prefer to step down and host a game later that suits the ways this community usually play @JaggedJimmyJay cheers