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Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:25 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Shhhhhhhhhhh.
Some people took that too literally.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:25 pm**

Golden wrote:
Neverwhere wrote:I just wanted to win so badly just so I could laugh at you again Golden
I should have known you guys bussed MP when it all came out of nowhere.

Might have been a miscalculation on our part, but I think it would have been a scummier looking lynch if a civ had been lynched.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:38 pm**

I think it was the winning move, actually.

Wish we had successfully lynched TH on day one

then we might have won, I bet Rico is an expert scumhunter.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:45 pm**

Golden wrote:I think it was the winning move, actually.

Wish we had successfully lynched TH on day one then we might have won, I bet Rico is an expert scumhunter.

Hellyeaa uhm no not even close.

I always want the mafia to win.

TH wasn't even close to getting lynched Day 1, wasn't I the only one who voted for him?

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:09 pm**

Hedgeowl wrote:
thellama73 wrote:But yeah, I didn't role check him, I just know his game.
Who did you role check?

MovingPictures, Elohcin, and You

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:10 pm**

I knew I had been role checked.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:11 pm**

Thanks for the game, by the way, Epi! And sorry to my team for not playing so great.

While a very intriguing idea, this type of game is just NOT for me, personally. The posting restriction was way too limiting.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:11 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:I knew I had been role checked.

I was going to play my role check of you super subtle, MP, but then like three other people came out and said they were voting for you, so I figured I might as well join in.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:23 pm**

Why did you say I was bad llama? I could have won with some civvies, although not you I guess possibly.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:24 pm**

thellama73 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I knew I had been role checked.
I was going to play my role check of you super subtle, MP, but then like three other people came out and said they were voting for you, so I figured I might as well join in.

It was definitely well played. Wasn't even sure you were the one that checked me at first.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:25 pm**

Hedgeowl wrote:Why did you say I was bad llama? I could have won with some civvies, although not you I guess possibly.

Llama enjoys catching civs instead of baddies.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:29 pm**

Hedgeowl wrote:I was ticked at you TH, but with MP and Elo gone I thought it was a lost cause anyway.

Freakin Suicide Girl, TH! Lol.

So, MM was my last woman left? I would have prob tried to lynch you too.

I tried to get me lynched on Day 1, but nobody agreed with it.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:57 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:Thanks for the game, by the way, Epi! And sorry to my team for not playing so great.

While a very intriguing idea, this type of game is just NOT for me, personally. The posting restriction was way too limiting.

It's funny - I (also a high poster) found the opposite - that the 4 post limit was overwhelming, because I was basically trying to use every post to say what I'd normally get out through all my posts in a single day.

That's why in latter days I reverted to shorter posts.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:11 pm**

I found the 4 post limit exceptionally useful in steering conversation and overwhelming the thread with narrative.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:50 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:Thanks for the game, by the way, Epi! And sorry to my team for not playing so great.

While a very intriguing idea, this type of game is just NOT for me, personally. The posting restriction was way too limiting.

I'm shocked.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:53 pm**

What I should have done, though... was take one vote on the chin and used one more post to respond to DH's allegation that it was 'last day fuckery' - which for me cemented the fact he was bad. I could have taken the vote, knowing DH had already voted for hedge, but I didn't think it through.

(I would have been all out for you tomorrow, DH, but I also have a feeling I would have been NKed if we'd successfully lynched splints).

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:55 pm**

good game guys !:) Neverwhere you did great, didn't suspect you haha

perhaps as a twist to the existing format, we could make the limit related to roles? as in, you can post as much as you want, but only about ONE particular character at a time. that would still steer the conversation towards a specific direction without limiting people's freedom to contribute.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:55 pm**

Epignosis, if you were to create another game like this, is there anything you would change? I'm curious how it all panned out from your point of view.

Linki: Yeah Golden, I was starting to come on to DH. I managed to let myself get distracted though. And of course, my vote was the clincher.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:57 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Thanks for the game, by the way, Epi! And sorry to my team for not playing so great.

While a very intriguing idea, this type of game is just NOT for me, personally. The posting restriction was way too limiting.
I'm shocked.

Is that genuine shock or sarcasm? :P

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:58 pm**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, if you were to create another game like this, is there anything you would change? I'm curious how it all panned out from your point of view.

I would change one thing: You get modkilled for posting over 4.

Bitches be tryna make me count an' shit.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:58 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Thanks for the game, by the way, Epi! And sorry to my team for not playing so great.

While a very intriguing idea, this type of game is just NOT for me, personally. The posting restriction was way too limiting.
I'm shocked.
Is that genuine shock or sarcasm? :P

What do you think?

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:59 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, if you were to create another game like this, is there anything you would change? I'm curious how it all panned out from your point of view.
I would change one thing: You get modkilled for posting over 4.

Bitches be tryna make me count an' shit.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:59 pm**

Golden wrote:What I should have done, though... was take one vote on the chin and used one more post to respond to DH's allegation that it was 'last day fuckery' - which for me cemented the fact he was bad. I could have taken the vote, knowing DH had already voted for hedge, but I didn't think it through.

(I would have been all out for you tomorrow, DH, but I also have a feeling I would have been NKed if we'd successfully lynched splints).

Good intuition.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:01 pm**

Epi - I'd definitely play again. I'd be more relaxed about how much content I had. And I'd support a modkill for anyone who posts more than 4 times, MM found the loophole in your rules far too quickly.

Also, if I could change one thing, it would be the number of players. It plays as fast as a speed game anyway, I think you could definitely do it with 20-25. I think you almost need the time with so few posts per day.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:02 pm**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, if you were to create another game like this, is there anything you would change? I'm curious how it all panned out from your point of view.

Linki: Yeah Golden, I was starting to come on to DH. I managed to let myself get distracted though. And of course, my vote was the clincher.

At that point, I was confident we'd already won. I figured Tiny Bubbles wouldn't vote, and worst case scenario it would be 3-3. I didn't get the impression that Epi would want to stretch out the game by breaking the tie in the civs favor.

I tend to go into cruise control if I think I've won.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:06 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, if you were to create another game like this, is there anything you would change? I'm curious how it all panned out from your point of view.
I would change one thing: You get modkilled for posting over 4.

Bitches be tryna make me count an' shit.

Well, aside from that little part?

Golden wrote:Epi - I'd definitely play again. I'd be more relaxed about how much content I had. And I'd support a modkill for anyone who posts more than 4 times, MM found the loophole in your rules far too quickly.

Also, if I could change one thing, it would be the number of players. It plays as fast as a speed game anyway, I think you could definitely do it with 20-25. I think you almost need the time with so few posts per day.

That's what I'm here for. Hosts ain't gonna learn if we don't bend the rules. :P

Which means I'm gonna have to take extra care to specify the rules in games I run.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:06 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, if you were to create another game like this, is there anything you would change? I'm curious how it all panned out from your point of view.

Linki: Yeah Golden, I was starting to come on to DH. I managed to let myself get distracted though. And of course, my vote was the clincher.
At that point, I was confident we'd already won. I figured Tiny Bubbles wouldn't vote, and worst case scenario it would be 3-3. I didn't get the impression that Epi would want to stretch out the game by breaking the tie in the civs favor.

I tend to go into cruise control if I think I've won.

I would have drawn a name out of a hat (since I was at work).

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:06 pm**

The funny thing for me was sending in the kills in order to change the poll times to throw people off. That should have been an indicator of my guilt at least, that I was always/mostly on point with posting/voting.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:07 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, if you were to create another game like this, is there anything you would change? I'm curious how it all panned out from your point of view.

Linki: Yeah Golden, I was starting to come on to DH. I managed to let myself get distracted though. And of course, my vote was the clincher.
At that point, I was confident we'd already won. I figured Tiny Bubbles wouldn't vote, and worst case scenario it would be 3-3. I didn't get the impression that Epi would want to stretch out the game by breaking the tie in the civs favor.

I tend to go into cruise control if I think I've won.

good intuition -_- i was out all day at my cousin's wedding, had no time to vote

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:08 pm**

I think the mafia should only be able to post four times in their chat room, to make it even. :P

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:09 pm**

TinyBubbles wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, if you were to create another game like this, is there anything you would change? I'm curious how it all panned out from your point of view.

Linki: Yeah Golden, I was starting to come on to DH. I managed to let myself get distracted though. And of course, my vote was the clincher.
At that point, I was confident we'd already won. I figured Tiny Bubbles wouldn't vote, and worst case scenario it would be 3-3. I didn't get the impression that Epi would want to stretch out the game by breaking the tie in the civs favor.

I tend to go into cruise control if I think I've won.
good intuition -_- i was out all day at my cousin's wedding, had no time to vote

I was banking on the bullshit poll times fucking with at least one person :P

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:10 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:The funny thing for me was sending in the kills in order to change the poll times to throw people off. That should have been an indicator of my guilt at least, that I was always/mostly on point with posting/voting.

Usually I was asleep or not around when all that was going on, so it could be anyone in that time. I think my biggest disadvantage in this game was time zone. I always had to vote early and was rarely around while the thread was locked.

@TB - I hope you get that mafia role that you are waiting for soon

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:12 pm**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, if you were to create another game like this, is there anything you would change? I'm curious how it all panned out from your point of view.
I would change one thing: You get modkilled for posting over 4.

Bitches be tryna make me count an' shit.
Well, aside from that little part?

Golden wrote:Epi - I'd definitely play again. I'd be more relaxed about how much content I had. And I'd support a modkill for anyone who posts more than 4 times, MM found the loophole in your rules far too quickly.

Also, if I could change one thing, it would be the number of players. It plays as fast as a speed game anyway, I think you could definitely do it with 20-25. I think you almost need the time with so few posts per day.
That's what I'm here for. Hosts ain't gonna learn if we don't bend the rules. :P

Which means I'm gonna have to take extra care to specify the rules in games I run.

I don't mean that in a hostile way or that Epignosis doesn't know how to run a game, or something like that. Quite the contrary. But if the rules allow for a certain activity or behavior, I am happy to engage in it. I wasn't being an asshat (I don't think?) I wasn't pseudo-role outing or info-dropping. I realize the spirit of the game was to enforce the idea of quality over quantity in our posts, but I'm not a spirited mafia player. I'm a demon.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:12 pm**

That's what I would change. Standard end times for the day/night.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:14 pm**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, if you were to create another game like this, is there anything you would change? I'm curious how it all panned out from your point of view.
I would change one thing: You get modkilled for posting over 4.

Bitches be tryna make me count an' shit.
Well, aside from that little part?

Golden wrote:Epi - I'd definitely play again. I'd be more relaxed about how much content I had. And I'd support a modkill for anyone who posts more than 4 times, MM found the loophole in your rules far too quickly.

Also, if I could change one thing, it would be the number of players. It plays as fast as a speed game anyway, I think you could definitely do it with 20-25. I think you almost need the time with so few posts per day.
That's what I'm here for. Hosts ain't gonna learn if we don't bend the rules. :P

Which means I'm gonna have to take extra care to specify the rules in games I run.
I don't mean that in a hostile way or that Epignosis doesn't know how to run a game, or something like that. Quite the contrary. But if the rules allow for a certain activity or behavior, I am happy to engage in it. I wasn't being an asshat (I don't think?) I wasn't pseudo-role outing or info-dropping. I realize the spirit of the game was to enforce the idea of quality over quantity in our posts, but I'm not a spirited mafia player. I'm a demon.

You don't have to explain yourself, you little fucking demon rodent from hell.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:21 pm**

Best thing about being a lawyer whose primary responsibility is drafting...

When I design a game, I am always thinking of demon rodents and what exploits they might find, and I do think very carefully about the wording of my rule drafting!

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:25 pm**

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:04 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:That's what I would change. Standard end times for the day/night.

I agree with this. I found it hard to keep track with the times changing, and missed a lot of votes. But I did enjoy the speed aspect of it at the same time.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:08 pm**

fingersplints wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:That's what I would change. Standard end times for the day/night.
I agree with this. I found it hard to keep track with the times changing, and missed a lot of votes. But I did enjoy the speed aspect of it at the same time.

Yes ^wss. It was good tactic on the your part to throw us off though. Also when they came in so fast, it had to be from an active player, but I didn't put DH in that role until too late.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:14 pm**

I had this nagging suspicion that LC/FS would have one mafia between them.

I shouldn't have ignored that. Meh, GG.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:06 pm**

Hedgeowl wrote:
fingersplints wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:That's what I would change. Standard end times for the day/night.
I agree with this. I found it hard to keep track with the times changing, and missed a lot of votes. But I did enjoy the speed aspect of it at the same time.
Yes ^wss. It was good tactic on the your part to throw us off though. Also when they came in so fast, it had to be from an active player, but I didn't put DH in that role until too late.

I was playing DnD with Epi one lynch, and just told him to kill DREAM in the lynch post :P

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:22 pm**

I'm particularly proud that I found a way to improve this game.

-Didn't tunnel on Golden, was right not to.
-Managed to sort him and Long Con out before I went nuts on them.
-Caught MP07's forced response quick, responded late.

I definitely liked this format. If it's cool, I may run this at JTM sometime.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:38 pm**

Missing Person wrote:I'm particularly proud that I found a way to improve this game.

-Didn't tunnel on Golden, was right not to.
-Managed to sort him and Long Con out before I went nuts on them.
-Caught MP07's forced response quick, responded late.

I definitely liked this format. If it's cool, I may run this at JTM sometime.

You played well, and I was concerned you might eventually turn your attentions to me.

Posted: **Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:07 am**

I honestly never had a scumread on you. I should've pushed based on LC's suspicion of you once I felt he was cleared. But it never came to mind for me, so that's 100% hindsight.

Posted: **Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:37 am**

I'm also glad I did not tunnel on you Missing. In fact I did a remarkably good job of not tunnelling on anyone for once (civ or bad). That's rare.

Posted: **Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:39 am**

Missing Person wrote:I honestly never had a scumread on you. I should've pushed based on LC's suspicion of you once I felt he was cleared. But it never came to mind for me, so that's 100% hindsight.

In fairness to you, I am a badass.

Also, I had Golden in my pocket for most of the game, Glad you weren't killed early this game Golden

Posted: **Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:45 am**

Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, if you were to create another game like this, is there anything you would change? I'm curious how it all panned out from your point of view.
I would change one thing: You get modkilled for posting over 4.

Bitches be tryna make me count an' shit.
Well, aside from that little part?

Golden wrote:Epi - I'd definitely play again. I'd be more relaxed about how much content I had. And I'd support a modkill for anyone who posts more than 4 times, MM found the loophole in your rules far too quickly.

Also, if I could change one thing, it would be the number of players. It plays as fast as a speed game anyway, I think you could definitely do it with 20-25. I think you almost need the time with so few posts per day.
That's what I'm here for. Hosts ain't gonna learn if we don't bend the rules. :P

Which means I'm gonna have to take extra care to specify the rules in games I run.
I don't mean that in a hostile way or that Epignosis doesn't know how to run a game, or something like that. Quite the contrary. But if the rules allow for a certain activity or behavior, I am happy to engage in it. I wasn't being an asshat (I don't think?) I wasn't pseudo-role outing or info-dropping. I realize the spirit of the game was to enforce the idea of quality over quantity in our posts, but I'm not a spirited mafia player. I'm a demon.
You don't have to explain yourself, you little fucking demon rodent from hell.

On a more serious note:

Do you think the 4 post 'limit' was the right number? Do you think it benefited one side more than the other, regardless of what actually happened in the game? Did the game pan out similarly or differently than you imagined, and are you happy with the result?

Posted: **Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:50 am**

Yeah, Epi, are you happy with that totally unfair and discriminatory result? Answer!

Posted: **Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:52 am**

I would definitely play a second round of this, and I would definitely maybe take it more seriously next time.

Posted: **Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:54 am**

Definitely maybe?

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