The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:33 pm I think Boomslang is the best suspect to emerge from Day 1. The way he tried to frame me as bad felt errant and shady, his vote for sig was weakly justified, and daisy's gripe about his treatment of INH is a valid criticism as well, I believe. Let's talk about him a little.

Boomslang is my top town read.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:16 pm In terms of voting, I wouldn't be against going the Scotty route and voting for JoH. This is the Game of friggin' Champions. Champions, at the very least, show up.

*coughlfellowshipcough*

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:25 pm Eh. Sloonei’s case against Sig seems to be based on him not eagerly complying with his tactics of instigation.

Went with Jack. C’mon dude, you gotta show up.

Lazy. Opportunistic.

Are you looking to catch baddies or to place a vote nobody can blame you for? Doesn’t look like the former.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:08 pm If I were the button, I would have pressed it when I logged in.


Maybe jack is the button?

If I was the button, I’d lynch myself because that role ruined The Plan (tm). Why did you want to lynch the button?




Also, I see Sig and Sloonei as potential w/w.

Saved by Quin’s poem
Don’t you mother fuckers know
Jack is always town

Heya Scotty. I tend to keep track of games via the “your posts” page and I didn’t have any posts on this thread cause it was locked when I got my role pm.

Yesterday, I was busy catching Dratinis and watching Fellowship of the Ring and of course Fire Emblem.

Today, I was watching two young kids whike my wife slept because I can sleep while sprawled over a desk in the middle of a orchestra rehearsal and my wife needs an exact temperature and lead up massages and absolute silence to get a good nights sleep so I was being nice. (My wife does different nice things.) The rest of the day was filled with chores and *redacted* and *censored*.

Your turn. Why did you want to lynch the button? What do you think of INH?

Let’s talk about Boomslang.

Here, though he’s not given credit for it, Boomslang comes in with one of the few reasoned votes.

Sloonei is making shit up, as per usual. (This isn’t problematic when he is town but might be so when he’s mafia.) Scotty is being lazy. Idk when Sig is even doing but it isn’t protown. INH is being hypocritical and opportunistic. I don’t even remember the other players voting at all and I read the thread today.

Boomslang wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:34 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:32 pm Um... I've been throwing up all day and thought the thing ended later.

I don't have time to read, please tell me the cases on sig and jack

Jack hasn't checked in at all. Sig cast a self-vote to tie out of "boredom," failed to provide actionable information about his haiku submission, and ignored my own claim of haiku submission. I don't like any of those things.

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:35 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:17 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:16 pm Ah. Well then. You and I are on the same page, haha. Fair enough I think my issue is, what do we talk about, if we don't have anything to talk about?

what do you think of spacedaisy and sig?

I think sig is fumbling and being weird about his haiku. I don't think this is indicative of alignment. I do think it's weird as fuck

I liked Daisy's comment about INH's reaction being more civ than baddie. Or, rather, that it's logical frustration. Indicative of alignment for her? No. But I agree with her in this respect.

I should vote. I'm voting non-poster, and that would be [VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine right now.

Linki - Not so much a case on Jack as he's not posted, and it's the friggin' GoC. Hopefully, however, he's all right IRL.

I didn’t care about this at the time but I don’t like this.

I was super active in Blooper’s game, outposted her by a mile in any games we’ve played together and have been posting daily for months.

Why not @ mention me? Why go for an “inactive” so early?

Not nearly as bad as INH but I’m not really a fan. I don’t have this same problem with Scotty’s vote against me. (I have different problems with it.)

If my gut read on Sig being bad is true, this could be a save. Almost too obvious. Not confident enough to push a Sig lynch anyhow.

Call this low yellow, high orange.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:21 am I am town reading sig.

Why?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:27 am Jackofhearts2005 I like the cut of your jib. Hope you caught lots of shiny dratinis yesterday.
What do you think of Sloonei?

Three and one of them has good IVs. So of course my wife only caught one and that's a problem.

Why did I transfer one of my shinies? I could have had a pink Dratini and a pink Dragonite.


I don't like Sloonei too much this game but it's well documented that I can tunnel good Sloonei and fully trust bad Sloonei. Supposedly, I've identified good Sloonei but did I really? (Laugh it up, pirate salt shaker thing. You've earned it.)

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:30 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:47 am Your turn. Why did you want to lynch the button? What do you think of INH?

Are you the button? Is lynching the button the easy to activate it? Wouldn’t be my fault if you hadn’t even checked in and in doing so created a gigantic explosion, mate.

I think INH is back in the middle ground for me. He blended in, got defensive and made sense in his defensiveness (day 1). And then hasn’t done any more digging since. I expect more out of him tomorrow?

I'm good with this response. Scotty clearly doesn't know about the button. Even if he's bad and was told later, this jives with his initial questioning about the button. (To recap, the issue is that the button is not harmful to the town necessarily. If he's good, he didn't know so this questioning is NAI. If he's bad, he didn't know at the time so it's still NAI. NAI depending on alignment. This is 4d mafia. ) FYI, the button scrambles the roles and players. It can't be a town role because I maintain that the primes were the town but it's not a scum role, either. A good townie wouldn't push the button but a frustrated one or one with less self control that I might.

What do you think about INH going after an "inactive" so soon after fumbling the ball in Fellowship by being confirmed town but leading no lynches and in fact not even voting at MYLO? (I fumbled too but not for lack of trying to move the ball.)

I’ll be nice to INH cause I find this amusing.

I feel like this is in the rules somewhere.

When you die and get a new role, we don’t know alignment may be different, yeah? That is, could it be an okay thing to get lynched as mafia?

Are roles assigned randomly as first and second roles? That is, could there be only one mafia in this tribe?

Anyone besides Marmot feel like self voting?

I don’t think the mafia kills one of their own on night 1.

We should lynch players twice if we seriously think they’re bad. Played a game like this on the realms and there were some wasted phases lynching the first of a player’s roles for basically no info and then leaving them alive for several days.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:44 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:40 am I don’t think the mafia kills one of their own on night 1.

We should lynch players twice if we seriously think they’re bad. Played a game like this on the realms and there were some wasted phases lynching the first of a player’s roles for basically no info and then leaving them alive for several days.

Agreed on the second point. Not so sure on the first. I didn't suspect Blooper 1.0 and I have no specific reason to start doing so now. But I think it's worth considering that the baddies would have killed one of their own off the bat. The WIFOM is super juicy in a move like that.
I do not wish to lynch blooper today.

Also I take it there was only a single nightkill between the two threads, just as there was a single shared lynch.

Consider: If this game has standard numbers, scum need twice the nightkills/mislynches to win and the only real advantage they have is they need to be lynched twice.

If I was scum, the very last thing I’d do is give up that advantage in order to make the disadvantage even worse. What I’d get out of it is WIFOM so juicy that the first time it is pointed out, Sloonei calls it a good strategy.

One can criticize me for choosing the win in front of me too often. As a whole, the Syndicate tends to choose the wine in front of the other guy very often. That makes it far less juicy.

aubergine

vote Sloonei

I don’t think INH is blendy. I’ve played maybe 3 games with Lorab and have no real feel for their meta cause they’re usually pretty quiet and/or die early. I don’t feel like mislynching Sig or Wilgy again. I’ll let the Sig suspicion ride. I see no reason to vote Blooper or Boomslang, both of whom I believe are town.

[mention]sig[/mention]

Why do you townread Sloonei?

Since I’ve talked about mostly everyone...

Marmot is null and likely catchable if bad and mislynched sometimes if good. Let it be for now.

Kyle is sick. Let it be for now. Did I tell him he wasn’t shiney in MK? Could be important for this game. Letting this be cause he’s sick.

[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention]

Come out and say things. I don’t have a read on you yet.

Scotty feels like town Scotty. Idk if I’ve seen bad Scotty though so this may be a worthless statement. I’ll still put him green on the board.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:09 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:07 pm aubergine

vote Sloonei

I don’t think INH is blendy. I’ve played maybe 3 games with Lorab and have no real feel for their meta cause they’re usually pretty quiet and/or die early. I don’t feel like mislynching Sig or Wilgy again. I’ll let the Sig suspicion ride. I see no reason to vote Blooper or Boomslang, both of whom I believe are town.

@sig

Why do you townread Sloonei?

Why are you voting Sloonei?

You flailing some. I don’t like your interactions with Sig one bit. I don’t really want to lynch anyone else.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] requested I talk about him and Sig as potential w/w.

I see Sloonei’s Sig posts as distancing. Sig is often lynched early as town. I can only assume he’d be lynched early as mafia. By “distancing” I mean “accusing without trying to get lynched” or “throwing shade while seeking alternatives.” Kid gloves.

Kid gloves:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ig#p413964

Accusing without force:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ig#p414458

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ig#p414646
“Just trying to get you to talk” yuck

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ig#p414705
Repeats weak case

Shade but alternatives:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ig#p414460

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ig#p414633



Then
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ig#p414724
Braaaamp! Suddenly voting Sig is a bad idea.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ig#p414778
Boomslang’s vote on Sig was weak. But...Sloonei’s was moreso. Doesn’t read like a real line of questioning but rather an excuse.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:50 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:45 pm This tribe cannot win. We do not have JaggedJimmyJay, there's no use trying.

hmmmm a defeatist attitude you must be mafia.

Bleh.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:20 pm

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:12 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:08 pm Talk more about my case on INH.

Didn't you already basically admit that your case against me is an inherently-hollow trojan horse designed to stir up shit and get people talking?

That question was specifically for sig.

I feel like it was a hollow trojan horse case designed to stir up shit and get people talking.

Bleh.

Much teammateness. Very w/w.

Sloonei: Vote for Boomslang
Sloonei: Sig, how do you feel about the slang?
Sig: The slang???

Fakey.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:50 pm Sloonei: Vote for Boomslang
Sloonei: Sig, how do you feel about the slang?
Sig: The slang???

Fakey.

“To what end, Jack?”

Idk. This may be a bullshit point.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:54 pm You are in a tunnel.

What kinda tunnel?

[mention]Scotty[/mention]

Why do you have cat food in your pantry?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:22 pm I was civ reading him since he was pushing discussion and seemed to have a good town intent. His flipflop on me is pingy though.

Isn’t that every Sloonei game, though?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:00 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:38 pm Also saying me not knowing slang is boom is reachy.

Slang was i assumed someone using slang

I never said that

I did. Sorta.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:32 pm JoH is civilian. Tell me why I think this.

Cause I’m always a civilian.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:56 am

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:13 pm

Boomslang wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:44 pm
I also have an eyeball on Lorab right now. "Ugh. I have no idea where to vote. I don't actually suspect anyone" at the end of Day 1 is so noncommittal, then she votes Sloonei for "peer pressure" and the active voices in the thread don't really get on her for that lack of reasoning. She then jumps in, first post of Day 2, to begin the WIFOM about me and the Blooper kill.

And to the other posts about me (and votes): I didn't suspect anyone day 1--honestly, I still don't really have any suspects. I didn't particularly like either of the bandwagons, and they both felt like just that, so I didn't want to vote there, because I didn't trust them. I didn't like how Sloonei totally switcherooed on Sig, and how he seemed to be going after every name that came up--it seemed opportunistic. Was it enough for a vote later in the game? No. But I had to vote somewhere, and it raised my eyebrow enough that I voted there.

Day 2, you were being discussed, and I thought I'd raise that point, which hadn't yet been mentioned.

I guess I can see how those things might seem suspicious, but I'm not bad.

Also, throwing out there: tomorrow night begins the Jewish holiday in which we cosplay while eating cookies and getting drunk (yes, that really is the holiday--we also have a carnival for it). Which is much fun, but much work. And our synagogue has 3 different celebrations for it, over the next several days. I also have jury duty on Thursday. So, my time will be wonky over the next 5 days. Just giving fair warning.

So in summary:
-you have no suspects, even though you mention Sloonei as opportunistic.
-you’re not bad because you’re not bad

I’m ok with my vote staying on you.

Would you vote Sloonei now, since that’s the only read you’re offering?


Hey Jackofhearts2005 what if it wasn’t a sig / Sloonei team but a LoRab / Sloonei team? Note how Sloonei votes LoRab for no reason but doesn’t substantiate it and removes it on a whim so he can look back later and say “Hey, I voted her on day 2 guys look!”

I feel like sig and Sloonei may have just had an odd spat because you can’t say odd without sigodd

Just a thought..

I could see it.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:10 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:00 pm This is dumb. Stop suspecting me.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:12 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:32 pm JoH is civilian. Tell me why I think this.

I disagree. I don't see why you think this.

Lol

1) Sig has been mislynched in front of me or by me 3 times iirc. Wilgy 3 or 4. I don’t mean “I townread them and will not vote for them for that reason.” I mean “People suspect Sig for being Sig and Wilgy for being Wilgy and that is dumb.” I happen to have actual reason to suspect Sig and Sloonei are w/w but I’d rather lynch Sloonei over it.

2) Wert? About? I null read you. You were caught in MK. I’ve had confident town reads of you before. I’ve seen you mislynched early. This is different from Wilgy being Wilgy or Sig being Sig. I don’t want to lynch them for being themselves. I just don’t want to lynch you early cause I think I can eventually figure you out. All that is loud is not town. See MK Sloonei, MU Champs 2015 Roman Augustus, every bad Jimmy, every bad Jack, every bad Epi.

3) I ISOed Sloonei for Sig connections, then did the same for Sig but got kinda bored of it. I never said I didn’t suspect Sig. That post was documentation, not a turn.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:16 pm Why you laugh at me Jackjack?

Cause you’re the only one following me and the only one throwing shade on me. It’s funny.

At this rate, the other tribe will lynch and we won’t.

Do we think Blooper was the only nk? We learned of the other thread’s lynch. If there was a nk there, shouldn’t we have been notified?

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:29 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:27 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:16 pm Why you laugh at me Jackjack?

Cause you’re the only one following me and the only one throwing shade on me. It’s funny.

You quoted two of my posts but I don't see the connection between them.

One is the shade. One is the follow.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:29 pm I was town in Mortal Kombat. Street Fighter and LotR are my recent scum games.

I'd never be this loud as scum.

Meant Lotr. Replaced our after a day and Speedchuck skater to victory.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:32 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:30 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:29 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:27 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:16 pm Why you laugh at me Jackjack?

Cause you’re the only one following me and the only one throwing shade on me. It’s funny.

You quoted two of my posts but I don't see the connection between them.

One is the shade. One is the follow.

My vote for Sloonei had nothing to do with you.

Fact remains only you and I are voting for him.

Why are you voting Sloonei?

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:36 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:29 pm I was town in Mortal Kombat. Street Fighter and LotR are my recent scum games.

I'd never be this loud as scum.

You had a 142 posts in two days before subbing out of LotR. You have 115 here thus far. Granted, that game overall double the post count of this gam at this juncture.

lynchallliars (well, except maybe Sloonei, which is part of the problem)

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:39 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:36 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:29 pm I was town in Mortal Kombat. Street Fighter and LotR are my recent scum games.

I'd never be this loud as scum.

You had a 142 posts in two days before subbing out of LotR. You have 115 here thus far. Granted, that game overall double the post count of this gam at this juncture.

Your second point is exactly my point. I spent all of Day 1 begging people to post. I wasn't nearly that aggressive in LotR, nor would I want to be.

We’re 4 hours from EOD. You’re on track to hit close to the exact post count in that game. You’re inadvertently making the point opposite of the one you’re trying to make.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:43 pm Hey Jack, in light of nijuu being nightkilled, what do you think of her now?

I think she’s town.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:41 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:38 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:35 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:14 pm

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:24 pm SLOONEI {INH MIX}

Get it while it's hot:

I refuse to lynch this man.

what did he post? I only see a gray rectangle with a puzzle piece

Vocaroo

can i get a translation, or maybe a transcript

“Blah blah blah. Yo yo yo.”

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:42 pm Jack, I am town. Who's your next suspect?

Idk. Maybe Lorab?

Both my Sig and Lorab suspicion are somewhat tied to my Sloonei suspicion. Sig moreso.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:48 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:54 pm And I was mainly messing around, I did write a haiku and knew I wouldn't be lynched so I figured i'd do some unconventional scum hunting and see how people reacted, I think we found out alot by the vote changes and last minute push onto Boom.

hey what was the unconventional scumhunting that you did? was it your self vote? what did you find out

That he’s one vote closer to getting lynched when he does that.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:03 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:56 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:42 pm Jack, I am town. Who's your next suspect?

Idk. Maybe Lorab?

Both my Sig and Lorab suspicion are somewhat tied to my Sloonei suspicion. Sig moreso.

If you pursue them both independently, assuming I'm town, which is more suspicious?

Lorab.

At this point, I’m pretty open to cases cause nobody is following me.

Do we have a player list for the other tribe?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:07 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:06 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:03 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:56 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:42 pm Jack, I am town. Who's your next suspect?

Idk. Maybe Lorab?

Both my Sig and Lorab suspicion are somewhat tied to my Sloonei suspicion. Sig moreso.

If you pursue them both independently, assuming I'm town, which is more suspicious?

Lorab.

Why?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:11 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:08 pm At this point, I’m pretty open to cases cause nobody is following me.

Do we have a player list for the other tribe?

INH posted one in Day 1.

lol wut?

INH Day 1: “Lynch Jack cause he’s not here.”

Sloonei pressing the button in CC123 ruined the plan and took away my favorite Syndicate role ever. I hate the button.

But I’d never actually self vote unless there was some advantage to it like if I had a revenge kill and was tied with my mason partner for votes. Probably never gonna happen.

Does that mean he’s a witch? Or just more resourceful than me?

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:13 am Here are the peeps over on the other tribe:

colonialbob
dharmahelper
Dom
Dragon D Luffy
Epignosis
Long Con
nutella
Quin
Speedchuck
sprityo
S~V~S

Who wants to bet that their thread is twice as long as ours by the end of Day 1?

Oh for sure.

Man, I wanna be on that thread.

I’m kidding. I love you all equally. But I wanna play with SVS when I’m not bad. Least I don’t have to worry about Speedchuck one way or the other.

Fair point. I still think BS is town.

[mention]Golden[/mention] [mention]juliets[/mention]

Am I allowed to vote Speedchuck? He draws mafia like 75% of the time.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:29 pm Ok, I just caught up on everything from my last post to the end, now I need to catch up on the stuff before that I missed, lol.

At the moment, I don't understand why Sloonei is getting any suspicion.

But then I don't really get any of the cases right now. I still only feel a mild ping of Boomslang and I would want to do an ISO of him before I see if my feelings about him from Day 1 have changed.

Wow, lots of linki.

You don’t understand it or you disagree with it?

Tell me about your opinions on my Sloonei/Sig w/w case.