The Syndicate

Hello, I'm checking in!

Yeah, that Felicity role is pretty sweet, I've rarely seen the like. Menace, are you suggesting we collaborate on power role use?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:18 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:18 pm Yeah, that Felicity role is pretty sweet, I've rarely seen the like. Menace, are you suggesting we collaborate on power role use?

Hello!

Can i assume you’ve caught up?

No way, not at all!

:nod: Low-hanging fruit. I agree with Sloonei.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 7:02 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:55 pm :nod: Low-hanging fruit. I agree with Sloonei.

So do you have any other reads outside of this? Is this a read?

Nothing to report yet, sir!

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:16 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:32 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:30 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:24 pm Why can't I set 100 posts per page?

You should be able to, but I was curious and started clicking around in my own UCP and it doesn't seem like the posts-per-page function is working at all. No matter what number I set it to, it stays at 50. I'll get to the bottom of this or die trying, you have my word.

here lies sloonei, cause of death: phpbb fuckery

"Which I can relate to." - diarmyhowley (I think it was him anyway...)

LOL yes... and I can still picture the Ben-crying Hed that it went on to become...

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:23 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:22 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:20 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:17 pm Are you guys even reading the exchange or are you just looking at the last post?

What do you think detectiv sloonbug?

the latter

Well you are just as correct as you are attractive. My argument stands.

I.. hey!

Quit while you're ahead, you good-lookin' baddie!

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:26 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:06 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 1:47 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 1:11 pm Jackofhearts2005 would you mind having a still image for an avatar for once. the fast movement makes it really hard for me to focus on reading posts

That is the entire point of moving avatars.

Well if you insist on that it's anti-town.

I thought this was in praise of Jack's dynamic avatars. How serious was this complaint?

Do you think it was serious?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:30 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:27 pmQuit while you're ahead, you good-lookin' baddie!

Oh... Long con... I want you to decapitate me and say that before I leave my mortal coil...

Sloonbug, you are a lucky one!

I only love Civs.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:33 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:08 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:05 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:44 am @Dragomir nutella’s motivation for that post would be to try to look town. I don’t accuse her of having some nefarious plan in mind there. I accuse her of having a potentially phony tone.

Eh, you really have to stretch it out to say that'd be her motivation.

Why would she have a phony tone though?

Because she’s mafia? There is no motivation here. The accusation here is that her tone could have been false. That’s not something she would consciously plot out, it’s just something that would slip into her posts by accident.

Don't really buy it but ok.

What part do you not buy? I don’t need you to agree with my case, but it seems like you’re disagreeing with it by virtue of flat out misunderstanding, and I compulsively need to bridge that gap.

Sometimes mafia make mistakes. Sometimes they are not authentic. I try to catch them being not authentic. That is what I accused nutella of.

Don't buy her subconsciously slipping like that. Sounds like a stretch.

This is suspicious stuff from Dragomir. First of all, just because Sloon said that a phony tone could "slip into her posts", that's a far cry from her actually slipping in some way. It's a tone read, not a slip. Is this a cultural misunderstanding of the ways to use the word "slip"? Comes off as hamfisted deliberate misunderstanding, and, coupled with a possible TMI defense of nutella, it's suspicious.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:10 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:04 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:59 am

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:55 am That's a 65% serious post btw

I mean, just look at that

I do not see the basis for that specific accusation.

Mac's characteristic lack of restraint in accusing everyone as scum fits with the perspective of an Indi, since he could be on the mark but can afford collateral damage. SK's aggressively hunting early is somewhat of a tell in normal set ups, and I think that would be moreso the case here.

But in addition the "You're mafia, he's mafia", comes off as a mindset slip. Because he's not mafia.

I once again do not want to dismiss your read off hand, but I feel the need to add context: this is all standard Mac behavior. If I was going to accuse him of anything, it’s that he’s following his usual meta too closely.

I'll keep this in mind but I also put very little stake in someone else's meta knowledge on another player

Because 90% of the time with meta, players are making blanket observations anyway and not catching potential anomalies, and characterizing average play. So if there was a slip it wouldn't make a difference.

Mac is quite capable of accusing two others of being opposite-team mafiosos while being on one of the mafia teams himself. Assuming he's Indy because of that doesn't strike me as a slam-dunk observation; I think it's more likely that he's mafia. Doesn't totally strike me as Civ, but Mac is an aggressive player, so maybe.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:25 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:16 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:33 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:08 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:05 pm
Eh, you really have to stretch it out to say that'd be her motivation.

Why would she have a phony tone though?

Because she’s mafia? There is no motivation here. The accusation here is that her tone could have been false. That’s not something she would consciously plot out, it’s just something that would slip into her posts by accident.

Don't really buy it but ok.

What part do you not buy? I don’t need you to agree with my case, but it seems like you’re disagreeing with it by virtue of flat out misunderstanding, and I compulsively need to bridge that gap.

Sometimes mafia make mistakes. Sometimes they are not authentic. I try to catch them being not authentic. That is what I accused nutella of.

Don't buy her subconsciously slipping like that. Sounds like a stretch.

This is suspicious stuff from Dragomir. First of all, just because Sloon said that a phony tone could "slip into her posts", that's a far cry from her actually slipping in some way. It's a tone read, not a slip. Is this a cultural misunderstanding of the ways to use the word "slip"? Comes off as hamfisted deliberate misunderstanding, and, coupled with a possible TMI defense of nutella, it's suspicious.

I thought he was saying that she actually slipped there, wasn't thinking tone read but thanks for the clear up.

TMI? Where?

Enh, your recent Civ-read of her to Sloon, which is pretty unsupported... that opinion was bolstered by your part in Slipgate, but if you truly misunderstood Sloonei's post then I can back-burner it for now.

Day Zero, surface-level... that is legit enough to me. We all need our Day Zero warmup suspicions though, so I'm your #1 fan right now.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:31 pm Creature Exercise #2 - Was the following post made by a Civilian or Mafia?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 6:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:42 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:38 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:33 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:16 pm

Well yeah no I agree with you on that. Maybe this wasn't clear but I suspect him for focusing on mechanics as a reason in itself, not just because of specific things I saw as scummy. Even if I didn't have those little pings (which like you said are pretty circumstantial) I suspect him for the mechanics talk as a general trend.

This seems like potential backed-into-a-corner-word-salad of an explanation

could you elaborate on this in a clear matter

When I originally stated my reason for suspecting MM I said it was because he was focusing on mechanics and that there were parts of that discussion which specifically pinged me. Even disregarding the small specific pings, which both he and Lux dismissed as weak and I concede that they were, I still suspect him for the main reason of generally focusing on mechanics. That make sense?

Serenade me with your take on why his focus on mechanics is suspicious

and what your other small pings were

It's an easy thing to talk about that isn't developing reads on other players. It's a way for scum to look productive in the thread without actually driving the scumhunting process.

Already discussed the other pings and they were shot down. Still have a hunch though.

This mindmeld is the only thing convincing me that you have potential to be town

Mafia, this is buddying.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:41 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:22 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:10 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:04 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:59 am

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:55 am That's a 65% serious post btw

I mean, just look at that

I do not see the basis for that specific accusation.

Mac's characteristic lack of restraint in accusing everyone as scum fits with the perspective of an Indi, since he could be on the mark but can afford collateral damage. SK's aggressively hunting early is somewhat of a tell in normal set ups, and I think that would be moreso the case here.

But in addition the "You're mafia, he's mafia", comes off as a mindset slip. Because he's not mafia.

I once again do not want to dismiss your read off hand, but I feel the need to add context: this is all standard Mac behavior. If I was going to accuse him of anything, it’s that he’s following his usual meta too closely.

I'll keep this in mind but I also put very little stake in someone else's meta knowledge on another player

Because 90% of the time with meta, players are making blanket observations anyway and not catching potential anomalies, and characterizing average play. So if there was a slip it wouldn't make a difference.

Mac is quite capable of accusing two others of being opposite-team mafiosos while being on one of the mafia teams himself. Assuming he's Indy because of that doesn't strike me as a slam-dunk observation; I think it's more likely that he's mafia. Doesn't totally strike me as Civ, but Mac is an aggressive player, so maybe.

What do you think makes him mafia

If I were Epignosis, I would say, "His role card makes him mafia." But I'm Long Con.

I believe he would say such a thing, as mafia, in order to get the reaction that you had, that he had a "mindset slip". That is the level of craftiness I expect from Mac.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 2:35 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:45 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:41 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:22 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:10 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:04 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:02 pm

Mac's characteristic lack of restraint in accusing everyone as scum fits with the perspective of an Indi, since he could be on the mark but can afford collateral damage. SK's aggressively hunting early is somewhat of a tell in normal set ups, and I think that would be moreso the case here.

But in addition the "You're mafia, he's mafia", comes off as a mindset slip. Because he's not mafia.

I once again do not want to dismiss your read off hand, but I feel the need to add context: this is all standard Mac behavior. If I was going to accuse him of anything, it’s that he’s following his usual meta too closely.

I'll keep this in mind but I also put very little stake in someone else's meta knowledge on another player

Because 90% of the time with meta, players are making blanket observations anyway and not catching potential anomalies, and characterizing average play. So if there was a slip it wouldn't make a difference.

Mac is quite capable of accusing two others of being opposite-team mafiosos while being on one of the mafia teams himself. Assuming he's Indy because of that doesn't strike me as a slam-dunk observation; I think it's more likely that he's mafia. Doesn't totally strike me as Civ, but Mac is an aggressive player, so maybe.

What do you think makes him mafia

If I were Epignosis, I would say, "His role card makes him mafia." But I'm Long Con.

I believe he would say such a thing, as mafia, in order to get the reaction that you had, that he had a "mindset slip". That is the level of craftiness I expect from Mac.

This sounds so contrived I don't know what to read you as

That's fine... give me enough time, and you'll be absolutely sure I'm bad.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 8:47 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:45 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:41 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:22 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:10 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:04 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:02 pm

Mac's characteristic lack of restraint in accusing everyone as scum fits with the perspective of an Indi, since he could be on the mark but can afford collateral damage. SK's aggressively hunting early is somewhat of a tell in normal set ups, and I think that would be moreso the case here.

But in addition the "You're mafia, he's mafia", comes off as a mindset slip. Because he's not mafia.

I once again do not want to dismiss your read off hand, but I feel the need to add context: this is all standard Mac behavior. If I was going to accuse him of anything, it’s that he’s following his usual meta too closely.

I'll keep this in mind but I also put very little stake in someone else's meta knowledge on another player

Because 90% of the time with meta, players are making blanket observations anyway and not catching potential anomalies, and characterizing average play. So if there was a slip it wouldn't make a difference.

Mac is quite capable of accusing two others of being opposite-team mafiosos while being on one of the mafia teams himself. Assuming he's Indy because of that doesn't strike me as a slam-dunk observation; I think it's more likely that he's mafia. Doesn't totally strike me as Civ, but Mac is an aggressive player, so maybe.

What do you think makes him mafia

If I were Epignosis, I would say, "His role card makes him mafia." But I'm Long Con.

I believe he would say such a thing, as mafia, in order to get the reaction that you had, that he had a "mindset slip". That is the level of craftiness I expect from Mac.

I have never said that in my life.

What that's a classic Epi response what are you talking

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:00 am Dragomir have a vote mate

Nah, wait, brother man, here, take two.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 11:13 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:29 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:25 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:16 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:33 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:30 pm
Don't really buy it but ok.

What part do you not buy? I don’t need you to agree with my case, but it seems like you’re disagreeing with it by virtue of flat out misunderstanding, and I compulsively need to bridge that gap.

Sometimes mafia make mistakes. Sometimes they are not authentic. I try to catch them being not authentic. That is what I accused nutella of.

Don't buy her subconsciously slipping like that. Sounds like a stretch.

This is suspicious stuff from Dragomir. First of all, just because Sloon said that a phony tone could "slip into her posts", that's a far cry from her actually slipping in some way. It's a tone read, not a slip. Is this a cultural misunderstanding of the ways to use the word "slip"? Comes off as hamfisted deliberate misunderstanding, and, coupled with a possible TMI defense of nutella, it's suspicious.

I thought he was saying that she actually slipped there, wasn't thinking tone read but thanks for the clear up.

TMI? Where?

Enh, your recent Civ-read of her to Sloon, which is pretty unsupported... that opinion was bolstered by your part in Slipgate, but if you truly misunderstood Sloonei's post then I can back-burner it for now.

Day Zero, surface-level... that is legit enough to me. We all need our Day Zero warmup suspicions though, so I'm your #1 fan right now.

LC, I'm trying to understand the scum read on Drago. In the post above he asks you what the TMI on nutella means. I think your response is the "Day Zero, surface level...that is legit enough to me" sentence. Can you be more specific? I don't understand what you means by "surface level" - are you referring to a post he made?

Actually, the answer to Drac was "your recent Civ-read of her to Sloon, which is pretty unsupported... that opinion was bolstered by your part in Slipgate".

"Day Zero, surface level...that is legit enough to me" - that's more talking about my suspicion of Draco - it's legit enough for me to want to keep an eye on him and not put him in my hypothetical green column.

I switched my vote. [VOTE: Luxurious] aubergine.

I like Luxurious' new verve. I don't want to vote for her anymore.

I am a bit concerned that Mac is buddying me by declaring me Civ for next to nothing.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 6:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 6:43 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 6:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 6:31 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 6:29 pm I have been trying to keep up. But I'm like twelve pages behind again.

And I have coursework to do so I'm not catching up.

Tossing a gut vote out on [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

I dunno, I’m running off a lot of confusion, little sleep, some anxiety about getting everything done today, and vague gut feelings from like the first day I think surrounding your treatment of Wilgy but I can’t really even remember. I don’t know what the fuck is even happening right now.

A vote for me is no good at this point. I’m not going anywhere. In case you want a vote that makes a difference. It’s understandable if you don’t feel informed enough to cast a vote elsewhere.

You know what screw this manipulated narrative that sloonei can't be lynched. *Garfield meme* You are not immune to [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

What's the Garfield meme? "I hate Mondays"?

This Sloonei thing... if I were bad, I would not choose to kill Sloonei after this whole thing were brought up. My pride alone would make me avoid it just to make Jack wrong.

Maybe Jack and Sloonei are bad together.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 5:38 pm Why is Long Con selfvoting?

I just wanted my vote off Lux. Unless I really get distracted, it will be on someone else by day's end.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:37 pm Cfd DDL anyone?


He's missing his spark.

I'm game, I don't really like any of the vote leaders right now.

Thanks, nutella, never seen that before.

I'll join juliets on Cooler. [VOTE: Cooler] aubergine

His meagre ISO has been discussed. That tepid attack on Ultra was tres lame.

Matahari wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:20 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:12 pm Similarly, Matahari’s response where she singled out Luxurious to offer a weird pseduo-defense which she later claimed was not a defense is many shades of confusing to me. I didn’t like the read she presented, and I didn’t like that she later denounced it as a defense without really explaining what the read itself.

You aren’t as good a judge of civvieness as I hoped you’d be. I can’t accept your other comments about people you think are bad, because I know you’re wrong about me. Either way, I would not place a vote on you today. I get it and I’m sure everyone else gets it too.

Sloonei could be diamond-edge accurate about everything else he's said, and still wrong about you. What is this, some sort of deviant Gambler's Fallacy?

Right now, if I weren't voting for Cooler, I'd be voting for Matahari. I just don't know if lazy, self-involved conclusions equate to mafia role card. Maybe that would be a lazy conclusion.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 9:39 pm DFaraday appears in the sky like the fucking Watcher.

Watchers only get to watch Marvel events.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 9:39 pm I missed the entirety of speed/ cooler suspicion so like, what the fuck happened there

Cooler has few posts, but his main 'participation' post looks like a weak attempt to appear involved, which we find suspicious.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:31 pm We should spend this time coordinating who goes where in the night to get the most out of actions

And anyone who doesn’t go somewhere we cant really do anything about since we cant role claim so

/shots myself in the foot

I'll go to the casino.

Niiiiiice!

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:33 pm Hey Long Con how do you feel about that EoD

I was going to talk about how I came one minute too late and felt bad about the Cooler lynch (new guy), and was going to switch to Matahari.... but given the result, I feel juuuust fine!

Agreed, Mac!

That "Checked Cooler's games on NF and he seems to be more active as both alignments although I'd venture to say inactivity here is slightly more scum telling" is wish-to-the-wash in all the wrong ways.

What about DDL and his "Save Cooler" campaign? It worked on me if I weren't so irresponsible.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 11:04 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:59 pm Agreed, Mac!

That "Checked Cooler's games on NF and he seems to be more active as both alignments although I'd venture to say inactivity here is slightly more scum telling" is wish-to-the-wash in all the wrong ways.

What about DDL and his "Save Cooler" campaign? It worked on me if I weren't so irresponsible.

DDL would be a tier two possibility. Ultra, Dragomir and Epignosis are much more likely.

I see what you're saying. DDL might be a bit too blatant to be a teammate.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 8:05 pm @DFaraday will night kills show flips?

He could still decide to do it.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 8:59 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 8:54 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 8:49 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 8:08 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 7:48 pm Much of where this site came from was birthed in Lostpedia Forums many years ago. One man brought this Mafia game to the forum, and a good group latched on and began developing games off the original formula, which didn't reveal the roles of nightkilled folk. This was just the normal way Mafia was played. We developed our Mafia methods over the years, across several forums, mostly unaware of the existence of a larger Mafia community on the Internet until a few years ago.

We developed some general rules, like no info-dumping or role-claiming, because such things were perceived to be ruining the game. A baddie team could spend the whole game masterfully crafting a sweet win, only to be tanked by Blurting Bob and his info role. It was regarded as cheap. Most games over the years have been open setup role madness, as well.

Now, we sometimes can claim, sometimes not. Some open, some closed. Some simple, some madness. Some janitored nightkills, some not. Some games are such offshoots that they barely resemble Mafia anymore.

It's not you can't make scum powerful enough to counter those cops. A couple invest immune baddies, framers, baddies that if investigated have it be redirected to specifically a townie. It doesn't ruin the game if you're creative.

It's not like*

You are right Dragomir just keep in mind LC is talking about how we operated 10+ years ago. Things have changed a lot since then.

Sure, but you guys are still playing similarly now with no info-dumping, role claims or night kills. But ay, I guess that's your forum's culture. Jutst gotta accept it.

Whatever's clever. Stick around and you might be surprised!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 9:42 pm We have an isssue on this site and that is indies get away with too much. They get caught and then kept alive because "indie". This motherfucker is probably Deathstroke who killed Juliets for no reason.

A serious charge indeed.

I am such a maybe scum in this one. Coast City. Wait. Coast City! Maybe I'm Green Lantern! Now with black friends!

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 10:35 pm Long Con! With! Rye Whiskey!

Yooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu know me so well!

I am 100% going to get stuff confused between games, just warning you guys. Macdougall just got my hackles up for a sec. Wrong guy.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 10:42 pm I’m glad I’m not mutligaming and can thusly say

What

Maybe you should be asking... why?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 10:44 pm Someone please explain Matahari's opinion of Lux.

Then please explain Matahari's opinion of me.

It'll be fun.

Ok, I'll try to Drunk History it. Gimme a few.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 10:46 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 10:43 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 10:42 pm I’m glad I’m not mutligaming and can thusly say

What

Maybe you should be asking... why?

That’s the same thing I just want an explanation

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 10:44 pm Someone please explain Matahari's opinion of Lux.

Then please explain Matahari's opinion of me.

It'll be fun.

Matahari originally thought Lux was pretty Civ, in spite of others' suspicion of Lux. Then it seems like she developed a condition for that Civ-read, which Lux failed to meet, and we get a jarring slide from defending Lux to suspecting Lux, and the reasons just don't impress either way.

A Day 1 poll record would be nice.

Her negative opinion of Epignosis is not something I understand. "Epig leads. When he isn’t town, his leading goes everywhere. He either puts too many scenarios in the thread, or he fixates, or both. " I don't know what to picture for "his leading goes everywhere". She didn't try to qualify the whole "scenarios/fixates/" thing, so I don't even know if this game's Epignosis follows Mata's claim on how his anti-town behaviour is.

That's all I got, Epi.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 1:11 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 11:15 pm I am having a fair bit of trouble compartmentalising these games in my mind.

Me too lol

This is not the game where you are gung-ho against me.

I'll get on this Sabie vote for a little excitement.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 7:33 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 12:35 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 11:21 am Actually, how does an Ultra lynch sound to you guys.

Stop testing the waters and just go for me you pussy

Actually the proper quote for this is "Do it bitch" which won best quote in the sockys! Haha

Also, the identical attitude from Wolbre (?) was followed by the revelation that he was, in fact, bad. Makes me suspect Ultra of being in the same position.

Just looked over sabie's ISO quickly... I couldn't really see much I actually find suspicious. I thought I recalled a suspicion of sabie that I agreed with. Why are we voting sabie?