The Syndicate

Holy lots of posts already you guys

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:29 pm Let's decide whether or not a thing is pingworthy, gang.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:10 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:02 pm @Ultra what does your scum hunting look like? What types of games are you used to playing, mechanics/setup-wise? What kind of pizza did you get earlier?
This is, like, the opposite of what I saw last game.

Also hi guys
What did you see last game?
Ultra has hesitant to interact with the thread, which is why I voted him D1. He spoke mostly to Nova, who was answering whatever was thrown his way. Some weird dependent thing.

This game, Ultra has already made a hot take and claimed that he's going to flex on the thread (not hesitant), and you're buzzing him with questions as if he needs the help. (Where Nova was just whatever about it)

Enough for an early townread on Ultra. Not sure what to think of all your questions yet. Feels kinda like fluff, but it's also something you do with new players.
The highlighted portion feels tacked on and arbitrary. Speedchuck has shared a straightforward read about Ultra when prompted. He then adds a nothing read on Sloonei which acknowledges that he is observing Regular Sloonei Behavior, but quibbles over it anyway. Why does this non-read on Sloonei exist?

I 100% agree with speedchuck. I don't trust you at all.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:43 pm I've got Ultra and Sloonei as civilians. Anybody else want to join the party?

I don't feel good about how easy you are giving Sloonei a townpass.

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:31 am Hello, I’m alive and haven’t played mafia in a long time it feels lik

Are you caught up?

So far I feel ok about speedchuck and ultra. Sloonei, nutella, Epi and MafiaMenace ping me. Sloonei mostly. He doesn't seem sincere but if I am right he'll tie himself in knots eventually so keep posting Sloo Sloo.

Nutella I am a bit torn on. I feel like she has more suspicion on Sloonei than she is voicing.

Epi giving Sloonei a town pass already shits me off.

This game has a good cast. There are invariably going to be some solid and prolific players who have rolled anti town here because of how many anti town roles there are and they will be trying to control the narrative... because they have to.

Concurrently if you are a civ and can give top effort I want some balls to the wall here. We aren't winning this on info. Civ voices need to dominate the thread. I want 150 pages. I want a bloodbath of analysis. I am going to be ruthless if you are phoning it in and I expect better of you. You know who you are.

I have a huge day tomorrow working the Australian election and seeing my goat band afterwards. Big chance I won't post for 36 hours from now. Smash em civs.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:46 pm Mac: well I'm just being cautious about him bc you know. But actually he did kinda ping me with this post

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:49 am This game has a good cast. There are invariably going to be some solid and prolific players who have rolled anti town here because of how many anti town roles there are and they will be trying to control the narrative... because they have to.

Concurrently if you are a civ and can give top effort I want some balls to the wall here. We aren't winning this on info. Civ voices need to dominate the thread. I want 150 pages. I want a bloodbath of analysis. I am going to be ruthless if you are phoning it in and I expect better of you. You know who you are.
Perhaps he is one of those players who have rolled anti-town, and that's why it's on his mind.

Also he suspected Epi for giving out town reads which is something town Epi does and actually I believe Mac did the same thing in scrimmage.

Mata has checked in only to laugh off Epi's statement of suspicion of her and to provide some slank cover.

Mafmen is just focused on mechanics and I feel like there were bits of it that seemed like they could have come from a scum perspective

You want this smoke?

Nutella you are summarising my sus on Epi as "he js giving out town reads" when I clearly said it was because he is giving Sloonei a townpass too easily.

You then took your abridged version and likened the reason I have a ping on him to my own recent Mafia play. Well I never said offering town reads was pingy or a scumtell or any such thing. You appear to be trying to force a scum read of me. Your apprehension is also visible.

If you are trying to force a scum read on me. Why?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:47 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:46 pm Mac: well I'm just being cautious about him bc you know. But actually he did kinda ping me with this post

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:49 am This game has a good cast. There are invariably going to be some solid and prolific players who have rolled anti town here because of how many anti town roles there are and they will be trying to control the narrative... because they have to.

Concurrently if you are a civ and can give top effort I want some balls to the wall here. We aren't winning this on info. Civ voices need to dominate the thread. I want 150 pages. I want a bloodbath of analysis. I am going to be ruthless if you are phoning it in and I expect better of you. You know who you are.
Perhaps he is one of those players who have rolled anti-town, and that's why it's on his mind.

Also he suspected Epi for giving out town reads which is something town Epi does and actually I believe Mac did the same thing in scrimmage.

Mata has checked in only to laugh off Epi's statement of suspicion of her and to provide some slank cover.

Mafmen is just focused on mechanics and I feel like there were bits of it that seemed like they could have come from a scum perspective
You want this smoke?
Hey there pal are you free to participate in a GTH exercise?

The thread is full of productive play right now and it is early and opinions are not yet formed. I do not think GTH is required at present and in fact is likely to just suppress better scum hunting.

See my GTH in scrimmage for reference.

This game is unfolding as a perfect day 0 and injecting gimmicky projects into it is anti-town.

GTH is the perfect game for a supertown deepwolf type to call for. It makes them look busy and shows them where the juicy mislynches are.

What would be the more civilian thing to do is read the thread and find who is bad and burn them alive for it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:47 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:46 pm Mac: well I'm just being cautious about him bc you know. But actually he did kinda ping me with this post

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:49 am This game has a good cast. There are invariably going to be some solid and prolific players who have rolled anti town here because of how many anti town roles there are and they will be trying to control the narrative... because they have to.

Concurrently if you are a civ and can give top effort I want some balls to the wall here. We aren't winning this on info. Civ voices need to dominate the thread. I want 150 pages. I want a bloodbath of analysis. I am going to be ruthless if you are phoning it in and I expect better of you. You know who you are.
Perhaps he is one of those players who have rolled anti-town, and that's why it's on his mind.

Also he suspected Epi for giving out town reads which is something town Epi does and actually I believe Mac did the same thing in scrimmage.

Mata has checked in only to laugh off Epi's statement of suspicion of her and to provide some slank cover.

Mafmen is just focused on mechanics and I feel like there were bits of it that seemed like they could have come from a scum perspective
You want this smoke?
Hey there pal are you free to participate in a GTH exercise?
The thread is full of productive play right now and it is early and opinions are not yet formed. I do not think GTH is required at present and in fact is likely to just suppress better scum hunting.

See my GTH in scrimmage for reference.
A lot of chatter is happening but we're struggling for direction and have a big crowd. GTH takes two seconds.

GTH could easily just be 5 Mafia fellating one another.

"A lot of chatter" is amazing and perfect for day 0. Is it bothering you?

Nope. I am not down. Sharing baseless and contextless thoughts right now has minor benefit for a possibility of suppressing good conversation. The Mafia don't even have anything to dodge here. They can say whatever because on day 0 and GTH nobody will hold them to account later. If you want to know who people suspect just read the thread.

It sounds to me like you are struggling to fake scum hunt.

If I am mafia GTH sounds great though.

To clarify if you guys want to GTH I don't care. I don't want to or feel the need to but if you think it will help you then do. I am not the thread dictator.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:05 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:04 pm Nope. I am not down. Sharing baseless and contextless thoughts right now has minor benefit for a possibility of suppressing good conversation. The Mafia don't even have anything to dodge here. They can say whatever because on day 0 and GTH nobody will hold them to account later. If you want to know who people suspect just read the thread.

It sounds to me like you are struggling to fake scum hunt.
A reminder:
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:19 pm Here's Mac tinfoiling me in the GoC. I was town.
Here's Mac tinfoiling me in A World Asunder. I was town. He was not.
Here's Mac tinfoiling me in Mega Man. I was town.
Here's Mac tinfoiling me in IASIP. I am town.

Weren't you mafia last time you used this defence against me? Why'd you leave out the times I tinfoiled you when you were bad?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:05 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:04 pm Nope. I am not down. Sharing baseless and contextless thoughts right now has minor benefit for a possibility of suppressing good conversation. The Mafia don't even have anything to dodge here. They can say whatever because on day 0 and GTH nobody will hold them to account later. If you want to know who people suspect just read the thread.

It sounds to me like you are struggling to fake scum hunt.
A reminder:
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:19 pm Here's Mac tinfoiling me in the GoC. I was town.
Here's Mac tinfoiling me in A World Asunder. I was town. He was not.
Here's Mac tinfoiling me in Mega Man. I was town.
Here's Mac tinfoiling me in IASIP. I am town.

Weren't you mafia last time you used this defence against me? Why'd you leave out the times I tinfoiled you when you were bad?
I do not believe so, no.

At the time I compiled this list it was four consecutive town games for me in which you tinfoiled me from start to finish. That is why it is the way it is.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:10 pm To clarify if you guys want to GTH I don't care. I don't want to or feel the need to but if you think it will help you then do. I am not the thread dictator.
To clarify on my own end: I backed off because there wasn't enough support, not because you yelled at me.

Thank you for clarifying. I did feel bad.

Sloonei. World Flags Mafia.

The most recent game I tinfoiled Sloonei in he was Mafia. So his attempt to discredit me is a joke.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:20 pm Mac's read on me feels desperate and sincere. It doesn't feel like he's trying to antagonize me, it just feels like he's wary of my activity. Therefore, Town.

Desperate?

Sloonei giving Epi unearned town read. Epi giving Sloonei unearned town read.

Computer says no.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:20 pm Mac's read on me feels desperate and sincere. It doesn't feel like he's trying to antagonize me, it just feels like he's wary of my activity. Therefore, Town.
Desperate?
Yes. Not as in you're pleading for me to be lynched, but as in you don't want me to get away with... something.

Um okay.

I find you suspicious and am following my gut. That is all.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:23 pm Sloonei. World Flags Mafia.
Bastard Game.

happened after IASIP too. But whatever. Doesn't change anything about the fact that you tinfoil me every game. You can keep doing it, I just want to make sure we're aware of the frequency of it.

I do not tinfoil you incorrectly in every game. I don't have a list but I assure you World Flags isn't the only time I have caught you. This is a hollow defence and had the added bonus of discrediting my hunches. All the new people are gonna think I'm a dumbass and ignore me now. I wanted them to like me Sloonanus but now they think I'm a joke and it's all cuz of you.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:26 pm Sloonei giving Epi unearned town read. Epi giving Sloonei unearned town read.

Computer says no.
It is earned.

Haha. Okay ...

Darth Sloonei

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:23 pm Sloonei. World Flags Mafia.
Bastard Game.

happened after IASIP too. But whatever. Doesn't change anything about the fact that you tinfoil me every game. You can keep doing it, I just want to make sure we're aware of the frequency of it.
I do not tinfoil you incorrectly in every game. I don't have a list but I assure you World Flags isn't the only time I have caught you. This is a hollow defence and had the added bonus of discrediting my hunches. All the new people are gonna think I'm a dumbass and ignore me now. I wanted them to like me Sloonanus but now they think I'm a joke and it's all cuz of you.
You've correctly tinfoiled me in World Flags and Ancient Greece. You've incorrectly Tinfoiled me in the four games I listed in the previous post, and now you're doing it again here. My point is that you tinfoil me in every game regardless of my alignment.

So you are saying I have never town read you?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 10:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:59 pm GTH is the perfect game for a supertown deepwolf type to call for. It makes them look busy and shows them where the juicy mislynches are.

What would be the more civilian thing to do is read the thread and find who is bad and burn them alive for it.
Yet you're not doing that civilian thing.

Instead you're shitting on my effort at finding civilians and shitting on Sloonei's effort to coordinate something.

When you've finished cleaning yourself up and washing your hands, I'd like to see some serious civilian play from you.

What a load of shit. You aren't even trying. Get in the bin.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 10:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:05 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:04 pm Nope. I am not down. Sharing baseless and contextless thoughts right now has minor benefit for a possibility of suppressing good conversation. The Mafia don't even have anything to dodge here. They can say whatever because on day 0 and GTH nobody will hold them to account later. If you want to know who people suspect just read the thread.

It sounds to me like you are struggling to fake scum hunt.
A reminder:
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:19 pm Here's Mac tinfoiling me in the GoC. I was town.
Here's Mac tinfoiling me in A World Asunder. I was town. He was not.
Here's Mac tinfoiling me in Mega Man. I was town.
Here's Mac tinfoiling me in IASIP. I am town.

Weren't you mafia last time you used this defence against me? Why'd you leave out the times I tinfoiled you when you were bad?
Mac plays the broken clock.

He does it with me too, except he's a really broken clock because his hands have fallen off and he's never ever right.

I was going to say before that I just realised you now suck at Mafia but I stopped myself because it was mean but then you said this so whatever. You actually suck at Mafia. Like legit.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:33 am Learn to spot mafia without info roles. You will be better for it.

Rich

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:45 am I like that iso by Sloo.

You're Mafia

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 3:50 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 2:08 am ok, responding to sloonei's post in order

1) not sure what you mean about "downplaying pressure" in the first point. that's just how I felt about you at the time, don't overthink it
2) what? of all the posts in my iso to pick out, you pick a one-off acknowledgment of sprityo that didn't really mean anything. I'm not sure how you got the idea I was implying I suspected him or something, it was just a joke. Like yeah it was a little rib at the fact he hadn't produced much content yet but I think you're overthinking again.
3) I don't think they're lhf. I can see why you'd feel that way about MM, which was my weakest of those suspicions, but mata wasn't really. That was an original read and you better believe it. She's not "in the same category as sprityo" at all wtf that's absolute bull.
4) And how do you expect me to react to suspicion?
5) llama thing is dumb. I'm not scum and you can cross those buns and take them to the bakery.
6) I don't feel like I'm exaggerating your suspicion, that's how it feels to me. and sure I was townreading you until some others, mostly mac, put some pressure on you that I liked the sound of and I didn't AT ALL like how you reacted to that pressure. is there something wrong with my reads evolving due to developing thread content? you are pulling this out of your ass and you know it
Yeah, I like this response very much. His entire iso was full tryhard.

You literally said you liked it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:50 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:46 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:45 am I like that iso by Sloo.
You're Mafia
I don’t think so. Dragomir’s skepticism of me in our dialogue last night was oozing with sincerity. He really just didn’t know what the hell I was talking about. I never got the sense he was trying to manipulate a case against me.

Oozing with sincerity. Jesus. Get me a stiff drink.

He is Mafia. You are also Mafia. You are on different teams.

Dragomir: I like that iso by Sloonei
Also Dragomir: Yeah I don't like that iso by Sloonei

Don't overthink it people.

I am going to bed. I was on my feet for 11 hours handing out voting guides only for our neoliberal semi rural climate change denying fascist government to get returned to power with a swing to them then went to a gig.

So I want the world to end basically. Bring on death.

Linki: Sloonei don't patronise me dickhead

I am so tired of living.

If you think I look bad, good.

Dragomir have a vote mate

I want to lynch Dragomir, nutella or Epignosis

What is the case against Luxurious?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:12 am None of my usual advocates are in this game. They have been replaced by people who don’t know me.

It’s noticeable.

You are town. I'll advocate for you baby.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:02 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:57 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:12 am None of my usual advocates are in this game. They have been replaced by people who don’t know me.

It’s noticeable.
You are town. I'll advocate for you baby.
What changed?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:02 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:57 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:12 am None of my usual advocates are in this game. They have been replaced by people who don’t know me.

It’s noticeable.
You are town. I'll advocate for you baby.
What on earth did I just read?

I had an epiphany that I was wrong based primarily on the fact that Sloonei has if anything increased his effort.

STOP IT'S TIME FOR MAC TO SOLVE THE GAME Y'ALL

Cooler wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:10 pm Sorry all, been a pretty manic weekend.

Can anyone catch me up?

I'll try and pay more attention from here on out.

Yeah so what's happened so far is that Sloonei didn't like nutella then did and now nutella doesn't like Sloonei anymore but did and now she does again and LC and Mac voted Dragomir because of reasons that I can't remember why and I am not LC so how should I know, Epignosis did a thing or two and then you didn't read anything so who cares if you didn't read anything why haven't you said anything since this post was made it's because you are bad. Tell me about yourself.

Creature is town

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:09 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:00 am Dragomir have a vote mate

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 8:50 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:00 am Dragomir have a vote mate
Nah, wait, brother man, here, take two.

Um it's because of that thing you did that I already said made you bad? Did you forget why I suspected you or is this meme just for the kek?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 3:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:28 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:20 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:14 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:10 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:18 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:05 pm Are you trying to say that because the suggestion makes no sense and I thought your iso made no sense?
No.

Part of your accusation against me was that I accused nutella to try to impress others/make myself look good/potentially establish myself as "deepwolf", if I am understanding you correctly. These are your words.

Then MafiaMenace suggests the possibility of another player being "deepwolf", and these are your words:
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 4:45 pm Deepwolf in D0 already?
You seemed to be accusing me of deepwolfing on Day 0, but then you cast doubt on MafiaMenace for suggesting the possibility of the same characteristics in a different player.
Yes you were trying to establish yourself as a deepwolf but I just don't believe someone can become one D0. Becoming one requires multiple DPs of powerwolfing, this DP was just one of those for you. Someone powerwolfing in order to become a deepwolf D0 is different from someone being a deepwolf outright in D0 and the latter is what I don't believe.
Or, you know, Sloonei is a civilian.
Or, you know, he's not.
You’re making the same mistakes as last game.
Don't really like the tone of this post. Feels arrogant, and I tend to associate that to baddies.

I know DDL is like busy and junk but this is such a weak take like c'mon guy r u bad or what?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:10 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:07 pm #goodolsloonlynchintime
What else you got, doctor?
That's about it. Mac is good.

This man is town.

I was wrong about Epignosis. He is town.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:43 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:41 am
Cooler wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 5:10 pm Sorry all, been a pretty manic weekend.

Can anyone catch me up?

I'll try and pay more attention from here on out.
Yeah so what's happened so far is that Sloonei didn't like nutella then did and now nutella doesn't like Sloonei anymore but did and now she does again and LC and Mac voted Dragomir because of reasons that I can't remember why and I am not LC so how should I know, Epignosis did a thing or two and then you didn't read anything so who cares if you didn't read anything why haven't you said anything since this post was made it's because you are bad. Tell me about yourself.
Remember to Breath(e)

Man do I have questions but I also dont wanna ask them since I feel like that’ll diminish Cooler’s response

Ask them anyway. Why hold back? You're bad?

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