The Syndicate

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:12 pm Does everyone suss me? :/

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:51 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:47 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:40 pm Why would a wolf defend mac in that scenario? Make it make sense to me

by that logic HK is never wolf then because nobody defended mac harder than HK did day 2, despite mac saying he needed to be voted off for being day 1 counter wagon. make it make sense to me.

Sorry, I should've been clearer. Assume HK and Mac are both wolves. One is going to die, the other is trying to go deeper and tbh just play in the exact way hk has with "you can't kill me anymore!" and it makes sense to me at least. But why would the last wolf join in? Wolves probably went fuck we have to go REALLY deep. Neon defending mac and putting herself in the limelight doesn't really fit that image. I mean she's town for a million other reasons anyway

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:38 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:28 pm wolf team is hk mac neon game is solved good night

reposting this for after i throw the game

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:49 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:47 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:40 pm Why would a wolf defend mac in that scenario? Make it make sense to me

by that logic HK is never wolf then because nobody defended mac harder than HK did day 2, despite mac saying he needed to be voted off for being day 1 counter wagon. make it make sense to me.

HK literally is the one in the position to not want Mac to die because Mac was pushing on him to bus him and Mac dying is awful in that scenario as literally I've said, Achro said day 2, nanook was saying all game, and on top of that Neon's play around it was way more believable and emotion after, and even despite that, call it a wash and HK has been turbo wolfy all game

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:17 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:13 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:11 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:06 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:04 pm lily is your solve then Sabi/TSP after I flip town or are you planning on re-evaluating?

if u flip w i probably kill porscha tomorrow

wow it's almost like I made 700 word posts on this exact thing in advance nobody could be assed to read. nice. very poggers

I have explicitly stated that my read is if hk does flip wolf, his teammate is bussing or has bussed or is willing to bus. I'm most clearly, out of everyone here except tsp who also isn't voting hk and said that hk might not be wolf, the option that sticks out like a sore thumb when hk flips wolf. I do not fear this world because i do not have have tmi. I am unsure of hk's alignment. if I had tmi, I am bussing. I'm not leaving myself out to dry looking like the one idiot who hard defended hk on multiple occasions just for him to flip wolf because now the entire point of getting hk deep has gone out the window when he flips and I immediately flip next day. the solve of me being wolf after hk flip is level 1 and I'd like you to read this argument this time instead of skipping it because despite nothing happening most of the day, you couldn't be assed to read my long interaction with neon where I went through all of this already.

okay ya but also this applies like doubly to TSP who has literally nothing going for him honestly lmao. Like defending HK with two posts then disappearing I think he knows is just asking to die. Also I kinda thought TSP earlier when he asked me specifically to think about HK was towny

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:15 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:29 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:18 pm @Porscha do you think Neon can be a wolf still? And how come?

yes, I think it's possible, however, I think the read is not formed particularly well because I remember so little from earlier in the game. I can maybe see a world where neon/hk are wolves and neon insisted on pushing back on my read that I strongly believe that if hk is wolf, his partner has been bussing or willing to bus at any given moment because otherwise they would stick out like a sore thumb. she could argue against this if it were true because it would mean it leaves her in my poe and wants to prove (perhaps lead into a poe) that someone like me, sabi, and tsp who have been off hk wagon today could still be his wolf partners.

This is my first game with neon - she was vehemently against my push on her regarding her change in wim when it came to yesterday where we lynched santy and I dropped it, because ultimately (especially for me with no meta), the subject of wim change is ... not necessarily productive in providing a read. it was only giving me ate to work with.

I worry that neon can flip a switch and go from floating in thread with relatively light presence to creating very convincing posts that include world building around something that... could be true. It's a large part in reason why I went onto santy yesterday, and really her only response to the flip was, "well I was wrong. so what" and when the wim of those posts is questioned, it's "well wim is AI for me but the subject of wim is NAI anyway so this is pointless."

her tone in the conversation her and I had yesterday was relatively towny. she ended with the, "well I didn't *really* think you're wolf but I have to keep my options open and I think this helped me see that you are more likely town. if you're town, I really need you here." It's something a good wolf could fake to make me feel comradery with her while still moving the needle on my slot (I think she had little choice but to do this because I was grilling her so hard on every little fucking thing and to try and triple down on a lot of it as me putting it out as manipulation / wolf tactics would be extremely hard for anyone to do and it would put a lot more attention on her slot b/c the reality is that I *am* strongly TR'd) while still... maybe leaving a little room for a lylo situation where she walks the read back on me to possible wolf.

oh I just saw this for some reason

I guess I can see the flipping a switch thing but to me that's way more easily explained by a towny motivated by thinking they have something than a wolf deciding to do that and most of what she's been saying lines up well with that too internally imo. I don't really think a wolf sees the payoff of that as worthwhile. It's a lot of effort and if she's intending to bus HK like she would be if she is today then it's a weird move to do that the day before then kill HK today like you're saying

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:16 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:13 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:11 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:06 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:04 pm lily is your solve then Sabi/TSP after I flip town or are you planning on re-evaluating?

if u flip w i probably kill porscha tomorrow

wow it's almost like I made 700 word posts on this exact thing in advance nobody could be assed to read. nice. very poggers

I have explicitly stated that my read is if hk does flip wolf, his teammate is bussing or has bussed or is willing to bus. I'm most clearly, out of everyone here except tsp who also isn't voting hk and said that hk might not be wolf, the option that sticks out like a sore thumb when hk flips wolf. I do not fear this world because i do not have have tmi. I am unsure of hk's alignment. if I had tmi, I am bussing. I'm not leaving myself out to dry looking like the one idiot who hard defended hk on multiple occasions just for him to flip wolf because now the entire point of getting hk deep has gone out the window when he flips and I immediately flip next day. the solve of me being wolf after hk flip is level 1 and I'd like you to read this argument this time instead of skipping it because despite nothing happening most of the day, you couldn't be assed to read my long interaction with neon where I went through all of this already.

i have read every post in this game that doesn't mean i remember them all

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:15 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:01 pm @Porscha

Would you consider yourself out of your wolfrange? I see other ppl saying it but I want your opinion

probably. i've wolfed very little

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:01 pm @Porscha

Would you consider yourself out of your wolfrange? I see other ppl saying it but I want your opinion

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:10 pm Also another thing about Mac/HK is like, HK never really picked up that much traction. Achro pointed out from Mac's PoV really good reasons to town read HK and it very clearly made Mac falter a bit, I can even quote these if people don't remember. It was about the thing Porscha quoted from me earlier in her ISO post. But once that was pointed out, Mac doesn't switch, he did temporarily, but then was back to HK. So like Porscha asked earlier, what is the point of this? If Mac was trying to push over a town, like he would be if HK was town, he has way way better options that he steers off of to push HK. It's not natural and imo it doesn't make sense as Mac/HK w/v

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:11 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:06 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:04 pm lily is your solve then Sabi/TSP after I flip town or are you planning on re-evaluating?

if u flip w i probably kill porscha tomorrow

wow it's almost like I made 700 word posts on this exact thing in advance nobody could be assed to read. nice. very poggers

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:06 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:04 pm lily is your solve then Sabi/TSP after I flip town or are you planning on re-evaluating?

if u flip w i probably kill porscha tomorrow

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:52 pm @Porscha What is your solve as well

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:40 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:39 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:21 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:18 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:13 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:44 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:56 pm

Twice iirc. She's very pockety with me if she's wolf against me. She hasn't this game.

only once you think i haven't been pockety of you? I've pretty much let you slide through on a TR all game with little to no pushback on your slot...

Wasn't the mu game you were wolf, no?

Compared to asmr it hasn't been on my radar

Is this why I'm alive?

ah haha I think the one game on MU we played *you* were wolf ;p

compared to asmr, you haven't been imploding in ate most of the game so I haven't felt the need to give you extra affirmation in your play.

It's been two games in a row of mostly controlling my emotions.

Plz give me affirmationz

No I'm talking the you G justice game.

You weren't in mountainous ita. Only Esooa and lily were

ah young justice we were both town. I haven't randed maf on MU yet

WAIT IT WAS THE SC2 PRESIDENTS ANON GAME


U WERE WOLF

I CAUGHT YOU D1

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:46 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:44 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:33 pm sorry this was a jump scare did i get u

what part of it was a jump scare lmao

trying to convince me hk needs to go over cuz he's day 1 counter wagon?

was a yoke

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:40 pm Why would a wolf defend mac in that scenario? Make it make sense to me

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:33 pm sorry this was a jump scare did i get u

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:21 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:18 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:13 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:44 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:56 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:54 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:53 pm

A handful of games

with her as wolf?

Twice iirc. She's very pockety with me if she's wolf against me. She hasn't this game.

only once you think i haven't been pockety of you? I've pretty much let you slide through on a TR all game with little to no pushback on your slot...

Wasn't the mu game you were wolf, no?

Compared to asmr it hasn't been on my radar

Is this why I'm alive?

ah haha I think the one game on MU we played *you* were wolf ;p

compared to asmr, you haven't been imploding in ate most of the game so I haven't felt the need to give you extra affirmation in your play.

It's been two games in a row of mostly controlling my emotions.

Plz give me affirmationz

No I'm talking the you G justice game.

You weren't in mountainous ita. Only Esooa and lily were

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:16 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:12 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:11 pmthem sorry

god i literally did it 3 times in once sentence too. sorry sabi

Everytime u misgender a nonbinary person, they cut their hair shorter :'(

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:14 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:08 pm went through my iso for day 1? / day 2 regarding mac interactions with me.

► Show Spoiler

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:34 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:31 pm I see we are in the mac survived n1 so is mafia part of the game lol

you know normally I would say yes, but this was in fact not brought up once to apply to our reasons to vote you

okay explain then

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:43 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:40 pm

I have seen nothing disagreeable from Visor and he's far and away my top town.

From someone who normally tunnels me D1 unless I push someone hard this is surprising.

You have pushed outside of consensus towards the same people i have which makes me think you are reading the game from a similar perspective. As the kids say "soul sex".

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:42 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:41 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:40 pm

I have seen nothing disagreeable from Visor and he's far and away my top town.

top town??

Yes very much so.

*yawn* mac kills ow here i'm almost certain

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:13 pm ow: *hardly exists*

mac: aha look at that ow. top town for sure

ow: *squints eyes at mac*

everyone else: wtf is this read

mac: oh haha c'maaaaan look at ow he's just so towny c'mon guys

*ow dies*

mac: aw darn I can't believe me making the god read on ow out of absolutely nowhere got ow killed. damn that's crazy

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:16 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:13 pm ow: *hardly exists*

mac: aha look at that ow. top town for sure

ow: *squints eyes at mac*

everyone else: wtf is this read

mac: oh haha c'maaaaan look at ow he's just so towny c'mon guys

*ow dies*

mac: aw darn I can't believe me making the god read on ow out of absolutely nowhere got ow killed. damn that's crazy

Mac was also a proponent of the lynch being w/v while visor was saying v/v

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:16 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:13 pm ow: *hardly exists*

mac: aha look at that ow. top town for sure

ow: *squints eyes at mac*

everyone else: wtf is this read

mac: oh haha c'maaaaan look at ow he's just so towny c'mon guys

*ow dies*

mac: aw darn I can't believe me making the god read on ow out of absolutely nowhere got ow killed. damn that's crazy

I could see that.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:19 pm I was going thru mac's iso to see what his pushes "outside of consensus" were to verify if they matched with ow's, but let me say I hate reading mac's iso. it's so wolfy to me

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:19 pm it makes the most sense if mac is a wolf

he even was saying i was a wolf at eod so it lines up that he would kill OW and then set up a push on me today, or maybe he would leave me for day 3 idk

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:37 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:35 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:34 pm mac really said he in anti spew rest of the day. sadge

I see you have chosen to be sabi and selected me to be esooa in a retelling of an iconic mafia event

I regret to inform you that I do not know what you are referencing

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:55 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:52 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:41 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:37 pm oh so I am mafia because I townread visor?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:37 pm I see how that makes sense. I'm outed.

do you really think it's cuz you tr'd visor or perhaps because of how and when you tr'd him? or how lily predicted you'd come into thread to put pressure on her, except you never read the initial posts from the day (obviously since I had to quote them all for you) and did *exactly what was predicted*???

Well all I saw in the comment chain is the part where you quoted me townreading visor and called me an obvious wolf for it which I know isn't true so my primary objective right now is to make you feel really miserable if you do manage to chop me.

ah well I rarely feel bad for wrong chops so feel free to try, but I just spent some more time going through your iso and while there's still a lot of posts/positions/stuff you said that I don't really understand, I still really kinda mindmeld with you on the weird lily/esooa/santy/achro situation so ... I am willing to be more pensive instead of confident in reading you for now

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:42 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:42 pm I do sorta like p[laying with my league of legends sometimes

yeah you should do that

or maybe I can still accuse you of things that make you angry for no particular reason since you seem to have no patience for explanation today

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:07 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:56 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:44 am @Porscha

Hi, have you seen Mac have this type of erratic reads as a wolf before? I suppose anyone can answer this but you proposed a model of 'mac would do this as wolf' so I was curious to hear what insight you might have.

I think I have arrived at Mac is struggling this game being true as either alignment, so now I am trying to figure out if this is a wolf struggling or a town struggling.

this may be surprising but I haven't seen mac wolf yet

i guess additionally I felt at one point during the day yesterday that he was all over the place and also had a lot of really short and half ass shit posts that just was ........ giving me heebie jeebies. but if his wim is ass then like... idk maybe it's just that I really don't know

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:14 pm I moved my vote back to mac. Time to see if my initial read was correct if I might feel 5% bad for being wrong like mac tried to guilt trip me into doing

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:57 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:55 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:54 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:50 pm Hk townreading here Mac so strongly doesnt make sense

Its cuz he is an idiot-thing

why are you scumreading me?

It isnt a hard sr tbh but it was my initial gut feeling the moment ender flipped town and between the following 2 factors, I have arrived here:
1) cant find town you hard enough
2) I am unable to spend hours on day 2 so far iso'ing everyone and everything to try and push a thread state that says you arent wolf

the last post is my last interaction with mac while i'm at work and he goes over with my vote on him.

Additionally, and I won't spoiler these b/c it's only a couple posts, but there were some posts that are potentially interesting for now...

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:24 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:23 pm idk what to think of mac voting HK

Think it's kinda bad too, kinda thought he understood why achro was town reading HK last night and that's why he moved off HK a bit and him going back now just doesn't rly make sense to me

mac wanted HK off at start of day as well. only went to santy to appease you I think. gave up on that and went back to his read on hk

I'm wondering how mac's votes on hk... were meant to be perceived. hk hard shielded mac, but mac did not hard shield him back. do I think wolf hk with wolf mac hard defends mac day 2? is hk town here for just being dead ass wrong without having TMI? do I think hk misreads mac this poorly with sincerity? was mac bussing hk to give him cover? (if this last part were true, it has worked)...

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:25 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:21 pm I mean there's still over an hour to go in the game day but people seem dead set on Mac for some reason I don't understand and don't care to go looking for

I really didnt hard shield you during eod 1 for this behavior

HK got on my nerves hard shielding mac, after I had done my best to keep hk from going over the day earlier, when mac was not obv!towning in the slightest.

Why go through your own ISO on it?

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:18 pm @Porscha do you think Neon can be a wolf still? And how come?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:13 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:44 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:56 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:54 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:53 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:53 pm has anyone here even played with Porscha much?

A handful of games

with her as wolf?

Twice iirc. She's very pockety with me if she's wolf against me. She hasn't this game.

only once you think i haven't been pockety of you? I've pretty much let you slide through on a TR all game with little to no pushback on your slot...

Wasn't the mu game you were wolf, no?

Compared to asmr it hasn't been on my radar

Is this why I'm alive?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:12 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:39 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:51 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:32 am I think HK kinda has to be mafia based on how I'm reading people.

If Sabi is town the game is probably a lot easier so here's my hypothetical readslist in that context.

Town

Sabi
Porscha
Neon

Lean Town

Achro

Nanook
Jack
Santygrass

Lean Wolf

Esooa or Lily

Wolf

Risiinq
HK

I can't really see town winning this game if HK is town.

Town

Sabi
Porscha
Neon

Lean Town

Achro

Nanook
Jack
Santygrass

Lean Wolf

Esooa or Lily

Wolf

Risiinq
HK

hk is in this list? ^

He wasn't on the other list.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:11 pm Hi I'm back from interview. Have a forty minute bus ride

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:11 pmthem sorry

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:57 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:55 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:06 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:43 am Did porscha have any significant alterations with Mac?

Why did you ask this earlier?

probs cuz sabi was going thru player's interactions / arguments with mac earlier. I got you sabi hold up

I was asking because I'm not sure why she did considering she also said she has no doubts on you atm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:24 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:23 pm idk what to think of mac voting HK

Think it's kinda bad too, kinda thought he understood why achro was town reading HK last night and that's why he moved off HK a bit and him going back now just doesn't rly make sense to me

mac wanted HK off at start of day as well. only went to santy to appease you I think. gave up on that and went back to his read on hk

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:25 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:21 pm I mean there's still over an hour to go in the game day but people seem dead set on Mac for some reason I don't understand and don't care to go looking for

I really didnt hard shield you during eod 1 for this behavior

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:30 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:28 pm wolf team is hk mac neon game is solved good night

Surely I am not convinced but I dont hate it

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:52 pm I think if tsp/hk were w/w TSP just busses here

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:06 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:43 am Did porscha have any significant alterations with Mac?

Why did you ask this earlier?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:56 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:54 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:53 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:53 pm has anyone here even played with Porscha much?

A handful of games

with her as wolf?

Twice iirc. She's very pockety with me if she's wolf against me. She hasn't this game.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:51 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:32 am I think HK kinda has to be mafia based on how I'm reading people.

If Sabi is town the game is probably a lot easier so here's my hypothetical readslist in that context.

Town

Sabi
Porscha
Neon

Lean Town

Achro

Nanook
Jack
Santygrass

Lean Wolf

Esooa or Lily

Wolf

Risiinq
HK

I can't really see town winning this game if HK is town.

Town

Sabi
Porscha
Neon

Lean Town

Achro

Nanook
Jack
Santygrass

Lean Wolf

Esooa or Lily

Wolf

Risiinq
HK

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:59 am I wish santy was here

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:10 am Anyway I'm still reading that game and writing notes on lily and esooa and comparing them to this game so wish me luck.

I will be busy tomorrow. I have a tournament this weekend that people are traveling for and my friends fly in tomorrow.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:53 am not gonna quote it all

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:00 am I don't see why I'd need to know you to understand that more often than not people who are town read by 100% of the thread die in the night lmao

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:56 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:47 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:33 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:18 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:29 am really glad that Porscha is deciding to take 1 lily post as all of everyones opinions on everything HK has done while having not replied or said anything about a single reason to believe HK is a wolf except to go "killing town HK isn't good, actually in fact killing wolf HK isn't good either"

killing wolf HK is good killing wolves in fact is very good and I'm not gonna answer stuff like "who is HK's partner" just to appease that so

Yeah I mean I never said killing wolf HK isnt something positive but whatever

You were saying that you're not at all interested in voting HK period and if he's a wolf he can die in f3 but okay

my goal in being a pester yesterday was to get something off the ground besides sitting here twiddling thumbs waiting for hk flip all day because it wasn't good enough for me. at the very least, I believe I found neon as town. if hk flips wolf whether i'm on the wagon or not, this is positive, because like I said, my greatest value is finding a wolf today more than trying to make it theoretically easier to find wolves later via hk solve. I wanted more game focus on who is the other wolf, because it *needs* to be discussed and it doesnt have to wait until friday to begin. the state of the game was currently not very invested in this conversation, so I became pushy.

Frankly, I still stand by it - if hk were to flip town, maybe I could have spent today finding one of the two remaining wolves instead. I understand the game theory behind hk flipping - i'm not overtly against it, but I might not vote for it.

I think seeing the end of the anon game makes me think Lily is more town here

Neon is always town to me

So it leaves you/Sabi/TSP, ik you and Sabi both have been towny but I've kinda glossed over reading both your posts cause there's too much and I didn't rly care about most of them lmao, I opened a few ISO's early but rly couldn't be assed to read more posts than this game has already so idk. Sabi I still think is pretty towny mostly with the way she questions people a lot. I didn't rly like the way you went about the HK stuff mostly because I feel like you've glossed over a lot of actually talking about if HK is a wolf or not, could just be not paying attention idk, and some other weird stuff like you saying someone not being dead doesn't matter at all when it does lol. The fact that one person is alive always matter more than if someone like Wilgy who was doing nothing is alive because Wilgy/TSP probably are not being NK'd as town, you in a lot of games are, so it felt like you were just saying shit to try to get rid of the fact you are alive. But shrug, your interactions with Neon were still good so I think it's probably HK/tsp

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:56 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:47 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:33 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:18 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:29 am really glad that Porscha is deciding to take 1 lily post as all of everyones opinions on everything HK has done while having not replied or said anything about a single reason to believe HK is a wolf except to go "killing town HK isn't good, actually in fact killing wolf HK isn't good either"

killing wolf HK is good killing wolves in fact is very good and I'm not gonna answer stuff like "who is HK's partner" just to appease that so

Yeah I mean I never said killing wolf HK isnt something positive but whatever

You were saying that you're not at all interested in voting HK period and if he's a wolf he can die in f3 but okay

my goal in being a pester yesterday was to get something off the ground besides sitting here twiddling thumbs waiting for hk flip all day because it wasn't good enough for me. at the very least, I believe I found neon as town. if hk flips wolf whether i'm on the wagon or not, this is positive, because like I said, my greatest value is finding a wolf today more than trying to make it theoretically easier to find wolves later via hk solve. I wanted more game focus on who is the other wolf, because it *needs* to be discussed and it doesnt have to wait until friday to begin. the state of the game was currently not very invested in this conversation, so I became pushy.

Frankly, I still stand by it - if hk were to flip town, maybe I could have spent today finding one of the two remaining wolves instead. I understand the game theory behind hk flipping - i'm not overtly against it, but I might not vote for it.

I think seeing the end of the anon game makes me think Lily is more town here

Neon is always town to me

So it leaves you/Sabi/TSP, ik you and Sabi both have been towny but I've kinda glossed over reading both your posts cause there's too much and I didn't rly care about most of them lmao, I opened a few ISO's early but rly couldn't be assed to read more posts than this game has already so idk. Sabi I still think is pretty towny mostly with the way she questions people a lot. I didn't rly like the way you went about the HK stuff mostly because I feel like you've glossed over a lot of actually talking about if HK is a wolf or not, could just be not paying attention idk, and some other weird stuff like you saying someone not being dead doesn't matter at all when it does lol. The fact that one person is alive always matter more than if someone like Wilgy who was doing nothing is alive because Wilgy/TSP probably are not being NK'd as town, you in a lot of games are, so it felt like you were just saying shit to try to get rid of the fact you are alive. But shrug, your interactions with Neon were still good so I think it's probably HK/tsp

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:33 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:18 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:29 am really glad that Porscha is deciding to take 1 lily post as all of everyones opinions on everything HK has done while having not replied or said anything about a single reason to believe HK is a wolf except to go "killing town HK isn't good, actually in fact killing wolf HK isn't good either"

killing wolf HK is good killing wolves in fact is very good and I'm not gonna answer stuff like "who is HK's partner" just to appease that so

Yeah I mean I never said killing wolf HK isnt something positive but whatever

You were saying that you're not at all interested in voting HK period and if he's a wolf he can die in f3 but okay

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:28 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:20 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:36 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:33 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:31 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:29 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:26 pm HK flip w - kill tsp

HK flip V - kill lily/neon fmpov

If I'm woofy woof I never do any of this xD

:really:

Yeah lol. I never push Santy I probably just NK him several days ago. I defs don't come into today painting a target on my back by going hard after HK when I can just sit back and see where the day takes me.

Tell me... can you see my play from the perspective of town?

I mean that's all wifom.

Your push on HK is similar to santy, which is pretty wolfy not that we got santy flip.

I don't think the hk push is similar to neon's santy push at the very least

Explain

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:36 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:33 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:31 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:29 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:26 pm HK flip w - kill tsp

HK flip V - kill lily/neon fmpov

If I'm woofy woof I never do any of this xD

:really:

Yeah lol. I never push Santy I probably just NK him several days ago. I defs don't come into today painting a target on my back by going hard after HK when I can just sit back and see where the day takes me.

Tell me... can you see my play from the perspective of town?

I mean that's all wifom.

Your push on HK is similar to santy, which is pretty wolfy not that we got santy flip.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:47 pm In the mean time,

Please tell me why I should sheep you

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:18 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:29 am really glad that Porscha is deciding to take 1 lily post as all of everyones opinions on everything HK has done while having not replied or said anything about a single reason to believe HK is a wolf except to go "killing town HK isn't good, actually in fact killing wolf HK isn't good either"

killing wolf HK is good killing wolves in fact is very good and I'm not gonna answer stuff like "who is HK's partner" just to appease that so

Yeah I mean I never said killing wolf HK isnt something positive but whatever

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:29 am really glad that Porscha is deciding to take 1 lily post as all of everyones opinions on everything HK has done while having not replied or said anything about a single reason to believe HK is a wolf except to go "killing town HK isn't good, actually in fact killing wolf HK isn't good either"

killing wolf HK is good killing wolves in fact is very good and I'm not gonna answer stuff like "who is HK's partner" just to appease that so

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:22 pm @Porscha i didnt read like most of what was posted but u do realize that most of the things u responded to that I said were said in a period where I was explicitly fishing for reactions?