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by Vivax
Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:07 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

DrWilgy wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:55 pm
Vivax wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:31 pm
Elohcin wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:20 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:56 pm
Elohcin wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:21 am caught up and just want to say that everything from Vivax so far today smells very stinky.
When Eloh starts speaking my language the tastes become of smooth butter.
@bea, you might need to start coaching your teammate :haha:
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:36 pm
Vivax wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:32 pm Thread feels like it wants to gaslight me into going after Sloon, Eloh and Wilgy.
I'm surprised gaslighting would be required for this.
*squints*
What does your squinting taste like? Salty wolf fur?

Also I think that Eloh's point towards Bea you quoted above actually tastes pretty strange post Bea flip.
Mostly I taste of coffee and cigarettes I‘d wager.
Other times parmesan and olive oil.
Rarely salty but it happens.

Yeah the point towards you summoned visions of eloh/wilgy teams for me.
by Vivax
Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:59 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]

Scotty wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:53 pm
Vivax wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:46 pm
Golden wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:41 pm SVS I have a town read on you. It’s a town read I don’t trust because I never trust my read on you. But I trust Kate’s read on you.
G-man mentioned

DH, Scotty, Golden, Sloonei

Do you disagree with my suggestion on how to analyze G-Man‘s post ?
Cause you and Sloonei are a pairing that we have to lim into at some point, methinks.
What would you say if there were a max of only 1 baddie in DH/Golden/Sloonei and who would it be?
SVS probably not.
The S/G pairing is trickier. I‘m mostly interested into forcing the hand of its constituents and work from that.

Cause I don‘t think it‘s unreasonable to expect the town of that pair to think the other is mafia, knowing his own alignment.

That not happening would make the pair move towards a s/s scenario, which is something that crossed my mind too during D1 (though I was obviously more concerned with just limming not-me being 3p and all)
by Vivax
Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:49 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]

Well aware I‘m roughly repeating Scotty‘s suggestions from a more personal perspective
by Vivax
Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:46 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]

Golden wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:41 pm SVS I have a town read on you. It’s a town read I don’t trust because I never trust my read on you. But I trust Kate’s read on you.
G-man mentioned

DH, Scotty, Golden, Sloonei

Do you disagree with my suggestion on how to analyze G-Man‘s post ?
Cause you and Sloonei are a pairing that we have to lim into at some point, methinks.
by Vivax
Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:23 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 2]

G-Man wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:03 pm Vanishing for most of the phase was not my intention. Here is a short version of what I have so far:

Several tiers based on participation-

Big Talk- Scotty, Sloonei, Golden coward, DH- I would be shocked if there wasn’t a baddie in that group. Maybe two, but lots of productive chatter for the most part.

Llama in a tier of his own, but I still feel loose llama is good llama.

VivAxe or Viv2.0, Eloh, Michelle, Quin- mixed bag here. Eloh was sussed yesterday, Viv2.0 is a reset and still murky on D1 NAA read, Michelle feels most ambiguous (her posts didn’t make any impression on me), and same goes for Quin. These folks are at radar-level. I need to ISO to see if I detected a skimmer.

Kate, sig, Bea, Wilgy- 1/2 seem off the table today and the sig is less memorable that Wilgy licking everything in sight. Under the radar crew- also need ISOs to find manufactured content.


G-Man, LoRab, DF- low posters. Not ideal to find myself in that camp that must be ‘dealt with’ before too long. I saw points about LR’s evasiveness but I’m not exactly one to harp on that without being a hypocrite just yet. DF… just needs to show up for the weekend and get some content before he becomes an afterthought to everything happening in the present.

I will try to speed read the day and make a vote after I get back from wife’s birthday dinner.

Too many null reads for me right now- not a good look. Need to get my head back in the game and sort out some townclears to help my poe.
Potentially juicy post here.
A scummer is unlikely to amalgamate his teammates in a ‚block‘ (that would just feel sloppy and I think is somewhat of an universal tendency).

That taken into consideration it seems advisable to form combinations picking a name from each block while hoping he didn‘t mention two buds in the same breath.

On phone but that‘d be my approach when I‘m back on a PC
by Vivax
Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:55 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

White knighting is taking pressure off players you don‘t have a clear read on.
by Vivax
Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:07 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]

Ahhh I misread again. I'll put on my robe and dunce hat
by Vivax
Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:06 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]

sig wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:02 am Okay so my issue right now is I’ve got literally zero scum reads and very few scum pings.


Llama was very anti Quin which seems like a place to maybe place a vote.

I could see Sloonie or Golden being mafia, based off the High posting theory which I do think is true + Gman not voting for sloonie is eyebrow raising.

Additionally it’s clear mafia are now shooting for high content people so why go Llama than Scotty but leave golden and sloonie.

Michelle is still a gut mafia lean I’m nursing but I’ve got zero reason for it besides gut
Good point about the highposters, but voting llama will be tough while he's hanging around in hades.

p-edit: Don't really lean either way on Quin/Golden interactions on this day
by Vivax
Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:45 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]

Sloonei wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:39 pm
Vivax wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:28 pm The thing about Sloonei is that he keeps oozing that aura of being in the game borderline involuntarily, while occasionally calling me mafia like he'd down a coffee during a break. Does mafia act like that I wonder ?
That’s the fatigue I mentioned.
Yeah, it's palpable. Part of why I don't really read too much into it as opposed to D1.
by Vivax
Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:41 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]

Scotty wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:36 pm
Vivax wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:25 pm First thoughts:
Michelle wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:40 pm Welcome back Scotty!

Rip Kate :hug: I hope we'll play again!

I need time to think at what happened yesterday, taking into account the NK. Sleeping on it
Not going to lie, that emoji makes me uncomfortable.
Michelle wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 11:04 am Change of plans we visit this town we are in now. Oh well...

RIP Fingers, now I read the results
Noted how Sig said her Iso doesn't tell much. I will read it too to check that after I come back at hotel
As does this pronoun usage for sig after doing an ISO looking for similar posts on a NK.
I think she is saying sig said splints’ (she) iso doesn’t say much
Right, seems like I jumped the gun there. You can have my pinky for pointing that out, zombie-man
by Vivax
Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:28 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]

The thing about Sloonei is that he keeps oozing that aura of being in the game borderline involuntarily, while occasionally calling me mafia like he'd down a coffee during a break. Does mafia act like that I wonder ?
by Vivax
Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:21 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]

Worth noting I'm making these posts well aware both sig and Eloh are or were in the thread recently.
by Vivax
Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:19 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]

S~V~S wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:15 pm I thought people who missed votes were the ones who were insanified?
Not sure about that, and you aren't either, which is why this is off to me. Because it's worded as if sig's assuming that it only affects town, which is something town shouldn't know.
Bea’s flip semi clears DF for me since he was also insaned
by Vivax
Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:14 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]

I think he even might have faked being insaned cause I saw two players on that day posting like that iirc, and DF stuck out as a third to me that didn't look like he should've been.

But with the info we have now, only flipped town has been posting affected by the gibberish role. That's not info we had at the time you made that post, sig
by Vivax
Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:11 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]

sig wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:34 pm 11 players left 3 mafia.


We’re still in a good place thankfully. (Assuming Scotty isn’t mafia which I’d have assumed if he was vigged said vig would’ve been freaking out)

I’m leaning toward Michelle or Quin. Quin based off 🦙 and Michelle is mainly gut.

Bea’s flip semi clears DF for me since he was also insaned
Don't understand how being insaned clears DF for you
by Vivax
Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:37 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]

sig wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:34 pm 11 players left 3 mafia.


We’re still in a good place thankfully. (Assuming Scotty isn’t mafia which I’d have assumed if he was vigged said vig would’ve been freaking out)

I’m leaning toward Michelle or Quin. Quin based off 🦙 and Michelle is mainly gut.

Bea’s flip semi clears DF for me since he was also insaned
Quins EoD posts are so cheeky, first the carpet crawlers, now that Scotty vote. I don't like to lim cheekiness.
by Vivax
Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:31 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

Elohcin wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:20 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:56 pm
Elohcin wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:21 am caught up and just want to say that everything from Vivax so far today smells very stinky.
When Eloh starts speaking my language the tastes become of smooth butter.
@bea, you might need to start coaching your teammate :haha:
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:36 pm
Vivax wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:32 pm Thread feels like it wants to gaslight me into going after Sloon, Eloh and Wilgy.
I'm surprised gaslighting would be required for this.
*squints*
by Vivax
Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:25 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]

First thoughts:
Michelle wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:40 pm Welcome back Scotty!

Rip Kate :hug: I hope we'll play again!

I need time to think at what happened yesterday, taking into account the NK. Sleeping on it
Not going to lie, that emoji makes me uncomfortable.
Michelle wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 11:04 am Change of plans we visit this town we are in now. Oh well...

RIP Fingers, now I read the results
Noted how Sig said her Iso doesn't tell much. I will read it too to check that after I come back at hotel
As does this pronoun usage for sig after doing an ISO looking for similar posts on a NK.
by Vivax
Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:14 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]

Looks like we didn't get away from the night scots free
by Vivax
Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:45 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Night 4]

Voting Scotty, Bea flip warrants a reread of last day but I'd wait for night end before commenting on that.
by Vivax
Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:29 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 3]

Golden wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:08 pm
Vivax wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:46 pm Can't really spot any concerted effort to save G-Man around End of Day.
Bea vote sticks out as townie, at first glance. I think for a Feb team that doesn't want to stick out too much voting together to save him, G-Man is the more logical choice. With the best choice being to vote off both wagons.
Michelle feels less opinionated than during D1. The DFaraday push could be such an attempt at placing a vote away from G-Man and also not Sloonei.
Michelle wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:58 pm Tokang thu ployurs frem thu lewust pesturs
Whot thu censunsis epanaen obeit Forodoy?

Has Ase as smoll, centoans o fuw ruods ond sulf muto soyang hu weild pest meru os o welf
DFaraday wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:50 pm I don't suspect either G-Man or Sloonei, and I won't be able to read the cases on them before the vote closes, so I will go ahead and move my vote to Michelle, on the grounds that I feel less town about her than anyone else really. As in, nothing has stood out as civ.
It's a weird interaction between these two, actually. It's really not the angle most of the game was looking at, and they seem to feel a bit too safe in this bubble where they push each other. DFara openly admits to not reading the reasons behind the wagons, but somehow finds Michelle interesting enough to read. Maybe he was just reading whoever was pushing him, but then he'd have had to read the thread?

The banger here is that Michelle didn't vote, so for DF to notice her, he'd also have had to run into posts describing reasons behind the main wagons. So this could be grounds to campaign for a DF lynch tomorrow, as it feels like he's lying here about what he read.
Vivax, on night three you talked about DF as someone there was grounds to campaign for.

Today you described it as a bad lynch.

I’d like to hear your thoughts on your progression and where you stand on DF and Michelle on balance.
I'd prefer to describe it as a worse lynch than Bea at the current gamestate. I think the strategic intent was too obvious anyway for mafia to fall for it, which was to play good cop in mafia-bea world. While it's tempting to just revive my D1 read on Sloonei and Eloh with their rather blunt way of pushing for my lim, I'd believe it more likely that mafia picked the sidelines here.
by Vivax
Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:21 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

DrWilgy wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:12 pm *joins thread*
*Shitposts*
*???*
*Becomes a top tr*

C'mon y'all where was this 5 years ago?
I'm a shitpost aficionado but while I love clowning around, it often messes with the game outcome and a few heads along with it. All up for it once town's in a safer spot, provided I survive this terrifying day.
by Vivax
Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:58 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

But I could see how writing that is not something one could do while living in other places. I guess I'm somewhat unspoiled in that regard.
Either way, as I am the CW now and I'm not going to vote myself, here we go.

[VOTE: Bea] aubergine
by Vivax
Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:46 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

DrWilgy wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:44 pm Depends on your definition.

I'd say so.

But I'd also be commiting fraud.
Fraud in a game of posts where everyone lies ? I got 10 corpses in my backyard pinky promise.
by Vivax
Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:32 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

Thread feels like it wants to gaslight me into going after Sloon, Eloh and Wilgy.
by Vivax
Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:26 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

Sloonei wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:04 pm
Vivax wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:34 pm I should also be clear that I am not done looking at people's interactions with G-man. My current Vivax suspicion exists entirely because of the way G-man interacted with him. I have not looked at Vivax's interactions with G-man. Or most of the remaining players' interactions with G. So while I stand by the reads I have right now, my view of the game is still a work in progress.
I find this hard to believe. Even before G-Man's flip you gave off the impression of having me in your PoE at all times.
That doesn't mean I had a clear read on you.
You do you, but I'm civvie and appreciate accusations I can respond to. G-Man's interactions with me being lukewarm are very much something that he could have planted, being a newcomer and all. Fully agree that I never saw any threat coming my way from him, but if I were to use your logic I should want to lim you just because Fingersplints was the N1 kill, and what could you rebuke to that?
by Vivax
Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:57 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

Sloonei wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:34 pm I should also be clear that I am not done looking at people's interactions with G-man. My current Vivax suspicion exists entirely because of the way G-man interacted with him. I have not looked at Vivax's interactions with G-man. Or most of the remaining players' interactions with G. So while I stand by the reads I have right now, my view of the game is still a work in progress.
I find this hard to believe. Even before G-Man's flip you gave off the impression of having me in your PoE at all times.
by Vivax
Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:16 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

S~V~S wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:46 am
Golden wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:10 am
Vivax wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:04 am
Golden wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:53 am
Vivax wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:49 am
Golden wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:47 am
Vivax wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:46 am I'll say that anyone seriously considering me as mafia should have at least placed the question into the room: Where did my suspicion of bea go when I decided to vote DF instead ?
Did it go anywhere?
Can't deny that sometimes my thoughts grow legs and run off in mafia games.

Is this bea suspicion still with us in the room right now? Yessir
Did you expect anyone would doubt it?

What’s interesting to me is that I got several questions directed at me about why I suspected DF *most* or *more* than others but it sounds like, from what you’re saying, you didn’t get those same questions.
I really didn't. You are more familiar with each other so it's understandable. And I often like to put on an awful cover, or maybe I'm too lazy to create a proper avi instead of the next best meme I can find.
I played mafia for years at teamliquid and it's a starcraft forum where no one has custom avi's. While playing offsite it really baffled me how susceptible we are to take the avatar into consideration when we read players in mafia games. But that's just human nature I guess.
I suppose it’s true in that questions came from people who indicated an expectation I’d have a strong meta read on DF.

Which, tbh, I don’t.
@Vivax I love your avatar, when my Dad was younger he looked like Scarface era Pacino, so I always like me a good Pacino picture!

When we were in early days here, before the RYM influx, some of us were visiting various sites and playing there, looking for recruits. I played at this one site where I questioned them for lynching a low poster Day One, instead of trying harder to find suspects, and they lynched me instead :fist:

Apparently voting low posters Day One was their norm unless there was a red flag. I was the flag. I loathe default low poster voting, and I tend to find people pushing for low posters suspicious. But it would seem that that is not universally the case.

I don't know Vivax, and I can't get a grip on his game. He often seems to be on the same page as me, then he says/does something I don't understand. In which case I back away and watch more. Which is the lesson I took from that other site (I think it was Medieval or King Arthur themed, something like that). Everyone does things differently, give strangers some room, and try to understand them (things which those Arthurians did not do for me :pout: ) I expect the same courtesy be extended to me to some extent, but I'm a hybrid. I was the second member, and I was Admin here for several years. Now I'm a flitter in and out, who plays a game or two a year, and I would say the majority of the active players never "met" me. I also have troubles discerning humor coming from people I don't know. Not always sure if kidding or not, like Vivax' murder/crocodile tears post. I spent way more time than was healthy trying to decide if that was a joke or a chat room slip.

So maybe voting low posters is the norm in Vivaxville :shrug:

So yes, Golden, I would not expect this vote from you, but I am thinking of the you you were several years ago. You might be a different you today. So when you got huffy and indignant at being challenged, I backed off, becasue that was a Golden I knew. I was a bit more :confused: at Quin inserting himself into the discussion. The attorney comment was on one had a joke aimed at you, but I also was trying to figure out why he swooped in when he did and got involved in that discussion in the first place. It was facetious more so than trying to put you together, if you get my meaning.

Golden, one question, re Sloonei. If not for that role slot, would you feel differently? Because I also thought of G Man trying to set Sloonei up for a lynch as a possible reasoning behind his behavior. But it really looked to me like G Man committed suicide, he didn't even try to live at any point after Sloonei started taking votes. At the point where it was tied, even a civvie saving themself would move their vote. He never even did that.

It really looked like suicide, and I know G Man doesn't love being bad, but I can't ever see him suiciding like that for no reason. And I really am having a problem finding a reason for that in a world where Sloonei is a civ. From a baddie viewpoint, why would they sacrifice 1/4 of their strength to save a strong civ player like Sloonei?

Also while looking for smilies I found this guy! I used to love him! :derp:
That's reassuring thanks! I was afraid of coming across as too edgy with it. I believed it to be funny with the local Austrian bakery shopped in and being known for streaks of slight insanity on my old community, and I'm a sucker for some movies and music from the 80s. Will still change it at some point probably.
I also believe that -as social experiment- if you filled a game with accounts whose avis all looked angry, you'd end up with an angry thread. Maybe a fun idea for a setup called emotion mafia or something.


That said, I can't shrug off that Sloonei + Golden having more or less the same avi colour also influenced me into thinking they could be mates. Which is not a theory I would currently blindly subscribe to as it's not a very smart thing to do while we await new flip information. Feelin' it in my bones that at least one of them is town, worth pointing out that Quin suggested the pairing today and while I currently hold a townread on Quin, I'll have to do a reread anyway and see if the conclusion remains the same.
by Vivax
Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:04 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

Golden wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:53 am
Vivax wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:49 am
Golden wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:47 am
Vivax wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:46 am I'll say that anyone seriously considering me as mafia should have at least placed the question into the room: Where did my suspicion of bea go when I decided to vote DF instead ?
Did it go anywhere?
Can't deny that sometimes my thoughts grow legs and run off in mafia games.

Is this bea suspicion still with us in the room right now? Yessir
Did you expect anyone would doubt it?

What’s interesting to me is that I got several questions directed at me about why I suspected DF *most* or *more* than others but it sounds like, from what you’re saying, you didn’t get those same questions.
I really didn't. You are more familiar with each other so it's understandable. And I often like to put on an awful cover, or maybe I'm too lazy to create a proper avi instead of the next best meme I can find.
I played mafia for years at teamliquid and it's a starcraft forum where no one has custom avi's. While playing offsite it really baffled me how susceptible we are to take the avatar into consideration when we read players in mafia games. But that's just human nature I guess.
by Vivax
Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:49 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

Golden wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:47 am
Vivax wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:46 am I'll say that anyone seriously considering me as mafia should have at least placed the question into the room: Where did my suspicion of bea go when I decided to vote DF instead ?
Did it go anywhere?
Can't deny that sometimes my thoughts grow legs and run off in mafia games.

Is this bea suspicion still with us in the room right now? Yessir
by Vivax
Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:46 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

I'll say that anyone seriously considering me as mafia should have at least placed the question into the room: Where did my suspicion of bea go when I decided to vote DF instead ?
by Vivax
Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:39 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 1]

Can't really blame Sloonei for pushing me if mafia, but it rubs me the wrong way if he thinks I'm the easiest mislim and I don't really get the oomph vibe that makes me think he takes his own read seriously. Still want to give him the 'day off' for the G-Man vote, but meh. My ego demands I quote these posts.
Spoiler: show
Vivax wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:14 pm LoRab gets Botd for busy claims. But there's a bunch of those about.

Kate goes to town after an ISO, but I'm not a fan of limming Scotty today. Think he's town now.

Golden and Sloonei on P5 stick out to me somewhat. Golden for townread on Fingersplints after dropping a vote on Sloonei. Sloonei for quickly dropping a few posts after Finger did that.
Mostly though I get associative vibes around there, maybe cause they didn't interact with each other much.
Vivax wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:15 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Consider this a delayed Omgus if you will
Vivax wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:42 pm If you want to be taken seriously, now's the time.

Mostly interested into your takes on Bea, Eloh, Golden. The latter had a period of regular relaxed posting that briefly flashed town to me, but again something felt off on P5 on my latest reread.
Sloonei wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:56 pm @Vivax why were those three names (bea, eloh, golden) important to you?
by Vivax
Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:48 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
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Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

I only caught one voting with me on the garbo wagon that I‘m on, Sloonei still only seems to spot me on the playerlist which is unfortunate.

Ah well
by Vivax
Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:28 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
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Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

Elohcin wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:21 am caught up and just want to say that everything from Vivax so far today smells very stinky.
Thanks. That's very helpful
by Vivax
Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:59 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
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Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

Hiding your hand is one way of surviving as town.
Being very wrong and annoying or very entertaining for the mafia is another. As long as town doesn‘t try to get your head on a spike.

Definitely interesting rule of old to only win when alive but explains a lot of styles I didn‘t understand at first.
by Vivax
Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:50 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
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Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

Quin wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:47 pm I thought it was easy to decipher sig's posts.

Thanks for the quesadilla recipe, btw.
Mostly. I think sig will be my new llama or scotty for today‘s dayphase, as in a player I trust enough to follow their vote around.

I liked the the ogling towards Golden there in the bog bog pust
by Vivax
Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:43 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
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Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 3]

Quin wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:29 pm
Vivax wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:46 pm Can't really spot any concerted effort to save G-Man around End of Day.
Bea vote sticks out as townie, at first glance. I think for a Feb team that doesn't want to stick out too much voting together to save him, G-Man is the more logical choice. With the best choice being to vote off both wagons.
Michelle feels less opinionated than during D1. The DFaraday push could be such an attempt at placing a vote away from G-Man and also not Sloonei.
Michelle wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:58 pm Tokang thu ployurs frem thu lewust pesturs
Whot thu censunsis epanaen obeit Forodoy?

Has Ase as smoll, centoans o fuw ruods ond sulf muto soyang hu weild pest meru os o welf
DFaraday wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:50 pm I don't suspect either G-Man or Sloonei, and I won't be able to read the cases on them before the vote closes, so I will go ahead and move my vote to Michelle, on the grounds that I feel less town about her than anyone else really. As in, nothing has stood out as civ.
It's a weird interaction between these two, actually. It's really not the angle most of the game was looking at, and they seem to feel a bit too safe in this bubble where they push each other. DFara openly admits to not reading the reasons behind the wagons, but somehow finds Michelle interesting enough to read. Maybe he was just reading whoever was pushing him, but then he'd have had to read the thread?

The banger here is that Michelle didn't vote, so for DF to notice her, he'd also have had to run into posts describing reasons behind the main wagons. So this could be grounds to campaign for a DF lynch tomorrow, as it feels like he's lying here about what he read.
There was a big upheaval in sig voters switching to Sloonei towards EoD. If there was an attempt at a save, that was it.

Noting you also voted for him at one point, what do you think of those who voted for sig yesterday?
Those were Kate, me and...Golden perhaps? I‘m on phone chillposting from bed but got the VC saved elsewhere.

I think sig voters are heroes cause I wasn‘t understanding half of what he wrote but had fun reading it.
by Vivax
Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:30 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
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Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

@Quin
It‘s because you questioned me about which posts I was reading you town off. In contrast to that you seemed to be less interested into scumreads on you.

It spells...Interesting intention. But it seems to be an unlikely mindset for mafia as they are more conscious about people scumreading them.

The ideal outcome for a mafia aligned player is to change a lynch to civs being a threat to them.
by Vivax
Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:16 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
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Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

Sig looks townie to me. Latest posts are of a good vibe. Appreciate the occasional joke on the side.

Quin I just realized had questions I didn‘t answer yet (sorry about that, I‘m a bit erratic at times), but I can almost sense an odd disappointment at not being read as scum. Or maybe I‘m just imagining it.

Seems to be opinionated enough to be town for today imo.
I am maybe biased in reading boldness that superficially look bad as a townie thing. Bea‘s late vote feels like such a thing.

But I think SVS mentioned it‘s more of a NAI thing for her.

p-edit: Hmm, I don‘t. I could try to guess who revolution mafia is. I have an idea, but even if correct, calling the switch unsurprising suggests you work from a framework where you can be more confident about what transpired, which is mafia indicative.
by Vivax
Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:42 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
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Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Night 1]

Golden wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:27 pm I’m entirely unsurprised the lynch was switched but glad it was to a good target. Vivax being Indy makes a tonne of sense in hindsight.
I was going a bit over Golden again and am now puzzled why it‘s unsurprising to him that the lynch was switched.

Old matter, I know. But am left wondering if this isn‘t a slip about Eloh and Sloon being town, if they are.
by Vivax
Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:15 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
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Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

DrWilgy wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:08 pmMmm... Bea...
I can hear your tongue flapping from over here
by Vivax
Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:57 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Night 3]

Kate wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:47 pm
Vivax wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:44 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:57 pm Idk I figured Vivax’s comment was more tongue in cheek. By saying the strategy out loud, it invalidates the next read he gives.

Anyway, bea is definitely town
RIP scotty, and wp! Yeah this.
It's a bit funny that sig and Kate commented on it as strategy thinking I was seriously considering doing that :noble:
Yea, it took me a few different takes on it bf I even understood what you were saying. But it's funny that I asked, as opposed to funny that you'd say it at all? I don't think so.
If the outcome is funny I am pleased with the result in either case :-)

p-edit @S-V-S:

I have laid out how I saw reason to be suspicious of DFara from his D3 post.
by Vivax
Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:48 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
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Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 4]

Kate wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:45 pm Fyi, it appears we can still move the votes.
Good to know, thanks. I volunteer to start a counterwagon :omg: (which may or may not be the person I'd currently vote if it were EoD)

[VOTE: DFaraday] aubergine
by Vivax
Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:44 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Night 3]

Scotty wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:57 pm Idk I figured Vivax’s comment was more tongue in cheek. By saying the strategy out loud, it invalidates the next read he gives.

Anyway, bea is definitely town
RIP scotty, and wp! Yeah this.
It's a bit funny that sig and Kate commented on it as strategy thinking I was seriously considering doing that :noble:
by Vivax
Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:41 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Night 3]

Sloonei wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:20 pm @Vivax Am I to understand that you are still not entertaining worldviews where Sloonei is town?
Why shouldn‘t I ?
When I replaced into this slot I wasn‘t quick to accuse you either. I think you become easier to solve as the game progresses and the G-man lim looks goodish on you for next day.

I‘d rather gun for other players then.
by Vivax
Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:46 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
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Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 3]

Can't really spot any concerted effort to save G-Man around End of Day.
Bea vote sticks out as townie, at first glance. I think for a Feb team that doesn't want to stick out too much voting together to save him, G-Man is the more logical choice. With the best choice being to vote off both wagons.
Michelle feels less opinionated than during D1. The DFaraday push could be such an attempt at placing a vote away from G-Man and also not Sloonei.
Michelle wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:58 pm Tokang thu ployurs frem thu lewust pesturs
Whot thu censunsis epanaen obeit Forodoy?

Has Ase as smoll, centoans o fuw ruods ond sulf muto soyang hu weild pest meru os o welf
DFaraday wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:50 pm I don't suspect either G-Man or Sloonei, and I won't be able to read the cases on them before the vote closes, so I will go ahead and move my vote to Michelle, on the grounds that I feel less town about her than anyone else really. As in, nothing has stood out as civ.
It's a weird interaction between these two, actually. It's really not the angle most of the game was looking at, and they seem to feel a bit too safe in this bubble where they push each other. DFara openly admits to not reading the reasons behind the wagons, but somehow finds Michelle interesting enough to read. Maybe he was just reading whoever was pushing him, but then he'd have had to read the thread?

The banger here is that Michelle didn't vote, so for DF to notice her, he'd also have had to run into posts describing reasons behind the main wagons. So this could be grounds to campaign for a DF lynch tomorrow, as it feels like he's lying here about what he read.
by Vivax
Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:16 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Night 3]

I think this is where we are supposed to fabricate towncases on our scumreads in the hope that they catch a bullet
by Vivax
Tue Nov 01, 2022 2:55 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Night 3]

DrWilgy wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 2:50 pm
Vivax wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 2:29 pm Nice outcome ! No more off-topic green is a game changer.
I'm a bit groggy today from halloween stuff. Probably won't do much during night phase.

It's interesting that the non-player vote ended up on mafia (considering it's derived from a Feb ability)
Consume Vivax as well.
I assure you I am intensely venomous
by Vivax
Tue Nov 01, 2022 2:29 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]
Replies: 3555
Views: 127469

Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Night 3]

Nice outcome ! No more off-topic green is a game changer.
I'm a bit groggy today from halloween stuff. Probably won't do much during night phase.

It's interesting that the non-player vote ended up on mafia (considering it's derived from a Feb ability)

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