The Syndicate

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:15 am Coming back to see Vivax say my case on them is towny is not in the top ten things I expected.

You have a list of the ten top things to expect? I'd love to see that.

Might actually have to try to ignore new stuff to pre-empt the mindfuckery that's going to be thrown at me with this guess. Expectation built from Kuti and Lucy making me doubt the Tommy vote on D1 (no hard feelings though).
Take that into consideration when you see my newest posts. I don't think I want to deviate from this guess.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:22 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:15 pm Hello to you too Mac.

[VOTE: lucy] aubergine

No explanation for now. Going to catch some zzz

lucy your teammate?

Achromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:23 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:22 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:15 pm Hello to you too Mac.

[VOTE: lucy] aubergine

No explanation for now. Going to catch some zzz

lucy your teammate?

Yes. Lynch her first.

I'll be crude and just say lolol to this

Tommy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:44 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:12 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:11 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:01 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:59 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:40 pm Putting any more pressure on Tommy given their content and status before getting a concrete summary from lucy of the type of player they are feels like wolfsiding tbh. Putting the manner aside of their actual alignment I feel as if this is a good chance for lucy to provide data for us on someone they know.

@lucy

they’re more aggressive than me, would push people D1 typically and send a lot of messages that are AI, this isn’t his play at all and i can’t protect him if he’s barely playing

I see. Thank you.

I look forward to the aggression when Tommy comes back. Unlike a couple of people I don't think this amount of time being gone is particularly noteworthy and they didn't strike me as the type to be frozen and crying in wolf chat.

Have you seen them wolf, Lucy?

they’re not the type to freeze up at all, the fact they didn’t talk all day yesterday is alarming imo, lots of ptsd from them so i can’t help but support their lynch

This doesn't make sense at all tbh

I didn’t talk all day yesterday? Wym

He replied to something lucy wrote while quoting Achro. Hey hey let's talk or people will think we're teamed.

@Tommy - posts - Killed by the host on Day 1 - Vanilla mafioso

Something you could put in a bus drivers' resume after all.

Achro/Mac scum

And I'm breaking my head over all sorts of things while Tommy's ISO is the purest sort of information we actually have

Now I know why the host killed him lmaoooooooooo
He waltzed around like a lawnmower over all the wrong places ejecting finely ground spew

Also asking 'Why am I mafia' to someone who suggested him as a policy lynch which doesn't imply a scumread heavily suggests TMI.

Tommy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:23 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:16 pm

Tommy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:06 pm Town

Dyslexicon

Considering

Achro
Sabi

Mafia

Porscha
Tommy

POLICY DAY 1 CHOP

Rondo

Why am I mafia

why are you not?

Got me there

Tommy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:06 pm Town

Dyslexicon

Considering

Achro
Sabi

Mafia

Porscha
Tommy

POLICY DAY 1 CHOP

Rondo

Why am I mafia

Yeah Rondo/Mac w/v like I thought D1.

Tommy to Rondo: Hey you got me have a joke.
Tommy to Mac: Why am I mafia?

Not joking it off in Mac's case because he felt like distancing.
There might be Achro related stuff too in the ISO.

I don't think anyone has ever seriously considered MacDougall after D2. Why did Tommy ask him game unrelated questions, you think?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:10 pm There HAS to be at least one person who looks good off this flip lol.

Has to be.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:09 pm It's fair to be suspicious of Achromatic. I'm not gonna shield him. I just don't think he is likely mafia. He hasn't done a good enough job not sounding scummy lol.

I think Porscha is probably always a hit here.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:10 pm There HAS to be at least one person who looks good off this flip lol.

Has to be.

There's two.

You and vivax

Oh god is it MacDougall and not Rondo?
Could MacDougall actually be mafia? He lacks firm direction and will to take control. He's following Rondo onto Flanders? And these posts lol. Especially Sabi's give me the heebie jeebies cause I know I'm villa.

I'd say that reading Ender's ISO of me, he's almost certainly town. I can't take anyone seriously who's voting for him.
I liked the analysis of my progression on tommy. There is almost no reason not to assume that it's how a wolf would weigh in on him.

Fact of the matter is that the information output from tommy was very low and no one should assume that a townie has to read too much into it when tommy flipped scum in hindsight. Sometimes a townie just has to guess the right people to listen to, there is no shame in that.
If Ender were to invert the appearances of my progression, he would likely find that I would have attempted to leave posts behind that would make me look more townie after a tommy flip.
I made posts that are good and bad, not just calculated good posts.

Who do you think is making the most 'calculated' posts in the game so far? I honestly think it's Rondo and Achromatic, off the top of my hat. They chip in very specifically, and Rondo was supposed to be a chaotic one?

These are just my fresh thoughts after waking up, but could be an angle I tackle next. I trust Ender enough to follow his vote today.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:15 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:11 am I see Ender appeared out of nowhere like a juiced up fairy. Taking it out on the mark itself.
Had a real shit night of sleep, dreaming of...nukes. And an escape to an icy place which hopefully was not a metaphor.
I hope I'm all but not predictive. Sometimes I have doubts. Maybe I've been pranked, or maybe I'm a great prankster cast aside in mafia for being hard to digest for people with low frustration tolerance. Or cast outside from elsewhere because of someone's actions in the last three years, but unlikely my own.

I'm in a pinch and neglecting important things for this game like a planned departure, but I seem to have a natural propensity to trust Ender. I might just do what he says.
Given that my knowledge not just about the game, but about the world seems to increase while I play games of mafia, I have probably good reason to assume that Achromatic should be an elimination here, and will vote accordingly.

even if Ender thinks you are wolf?

I got really bad vibes yesterday from Achromatic trying to nudge me into a Dyslexicon elim when I suggested no elim.
Ender's read on me doesn't influence my opinion on Achro in any way, and I don't know why you think it should have a reason to.

I see Ender appeared out of nowhere like a juiced up fairy. Taking it out on the mark itself.
Had a real shit night of sleep, dreaming of...nukes. And an escape to an icy place which hopefully was not a metaphor.
I hope I'm all but not predictive. Sometimes I have doubts. Maybe I've been pranked, or maybe I'm a great prankster cast aside in mafia for being hard to digest for people with low frustration tolerance. Or cast outside from elsewhere because of someone's actions in the last three years, but unlikely my own.

I'm in a pinch and neglecting important things for this game like a planned departure, but I seem to have a natural propensity to trust Ender. I might just do what he says.
Given that my knowledge not just about the game, but about the world seems to increase while I play games of mafia, I have probably good reason to assume that Achromatic should be an elimination here, and will vote accordingly.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:30 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:29 pm I guess I'll return the favour of mafia not limming anyone on N1 and vote for no elimination here

Dizzy dream imo

I have to sleep sometimes.
What about not eliminating you don't like?
Maybe there won't be a NK again?

I guess I'll return the favour of mafia not limming anyone on N1 and vote for no elimination here

But I suppose mafia burnout or being swamped irl could excuse that if she's town.
Have to go with what I got to work with.

From my limited experience with her on MU I'd classify Porscha as polarized.
The uninspired D1 suggests mafia. Lack of cheeky excitement. I struggle with that as mafia myself.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:05 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:57 pmI'm lost lol

I was thinking we should just flip Porscha here. Thoughts?

There's fancy coloured names on the wagon
Can do

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:26 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:25 pm Kinda random occurrence, but being more polarized in mafia games often has a meaning beyond the game relevant one.
I'll leave it open to interpretation. But it's an interesting thought to explore.

I don't think this is game relevant but I am curious what you mean

Missed this before

I believe polarized players are more passionate and chaotic at games in general
Being unpolarized means a higher degree of rational thought prevailing in play

Able to trigger enjoyment (even just to oneself) vs. able to play as efficiently as possible

If one had a choice on what type to be, which one would you prefer?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:53 pm So what have I missed

You have #111 , Tommy #777
Didn't check for other triplets yet
But sometimes a fun thing to do when looking for tingles
Why are you a mark while I'm a 'stool pigeon' smh

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:59 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:56 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:58 am Hm, wait.

Mac played with me in Anni where I was more shit posting like I am now and less my usual 'rawr I am a dinosaur' method.

Mac I am concerned.

I was also in Anni.

I don't think I read your posts at all but that's not surprising to me at all. I read very few people's posts that game.

How could you, my Magikarp posts were beautiful.

Also I poked Mac about it because we were unofficial mason buddies there.

Signature #666 post goes to Achromatic 'The Mark', almost unsurprisingly.

I call dibs on having this year's post number in the game.
In other words, it could be the post of the year.

I will accept I can be wrong and vote Dyslexicon with you if you so decide, and because I already thought it's a decent wagon when I just looked at the votecount.
Placing my vote there.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:10 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:07 pm axe is a trust me bro read, weve played a good deal and ive seen him talk mafia quite a bit.

it's perhaps not as strong a read as i let on at times, but i find it useful to direct peoples attention away from him cause he can kinda end up being a default push pretty often given his utter disregard for being townread

What can I say, not getting killed is the optimal strategy, being townread is a bad objective in a game like mafia.

You're doing a good job at it currently
There's honesty in your posts

Kinda random occurrence, but being more polarized in mafia games often has a meaning beyond the game relevant one.
I'll leave it open to interpretation. But it's an interesting thought to explore.

Cue Dark Souls - visions of being day vigged

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:59 pm @Vivax Tell me I'm mafia some more.

I'm mafia some more

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:02 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:00 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:00 pm I mean I am sheeping people, just

Not you lol

Imagine not sheeping the best player smh

He can't sheep the best player because the best player is voting him.

Sean Nanook w/w. CAPSLOCK W/W

Someone will come to their senses and vote here eventually.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:50 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:48 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:41 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:40 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 pm Not really sure why Achromatic is hard defending me here, but since I do have a few votes on me, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Looool

Okay this is mafia.

Oh this is someone who just got into the thread, isn't caught up, and sees someone towncasing them pretty darn hard. One of the two.

Yeah as town I'm always particularly most conscious about the ones towncasing me.Not.
Reacting to Achro defense as snap reaction implies you care too much about not looking like scum. Been there, done that.
And probably spews Achro town, not that it was needed.

Cueueing the Nanook vote Change from Sean to Porscha.

This is a deeply silly read, some people are more self aware/self conscious than others

Nope. He reacted EXACTLY the same way I did when subbing in as scum in terminator mafia on mafiascum. There you go. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13433543
First thing I did was jump at someone defending me. It's typical 'Look at me doing something mafia would probably not do'.
That's why it comes to me as an easy read.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:41 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:40 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 pm Not really sure why Achromatic is hard defending me here, but since I do have a few votes on me, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Looool

Okay this is mafia.

Oh this is someone who just got into the thread, isn't caught up, and sees someone towncasing them pretty darn hard. One of the two.

Yeah as town I'm always particularly most conscious about the ones towncasing me.Not.
Reacting to Achro defense as snap reaction implies you care too much about not looking like scum. Been there, done that.
And probably spews Achro town, not that it was needed.

Cueueing the Nanook vote Change from Sean to Porscha.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 pm Not really sure why Achromatic is hard defending me here, but since I do have a few votes on me, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Looool

Okay this is mafia.

Okay I can get behind that. Back to Dyslexicon as any sane townie should from wagonomics.
And I take it back about Nook, can still be mafia, can still be not.

Going Dyslexicon here is rational, simple reasoning unless you can argue why both Wilgie and Seanzie wagons are mafia.
But I'd also keep in mind that Rondo and Axe are voting off wagons and that's pro-scum, so could be another possible pair.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:02 pm I will say I see no similarity between the wolf game sabi linked with seanzie's day 1.

This doesn't feel like a hit tbh

What makes you feel that way?

I guess I can do Seanzie.
Nook looking okay lately.

Seanzie, Dizzy?
Maybe that's why Dizzy is low efforting and came into the game with a sigh? Low activity partners?

Feels like a good thread sentiment to follow here.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:11 am Day 1 Vote:

Spoiler: show

Day 2 So far:

Spoiler: show

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Ender + Sabi on Porcha to Ender + Sabi on Seanzie.

Nook + Axe + Dyslexicon on Tommy to Nook + Axe + Dyslexicon on Porcha

DrWigly no vote twice

I didnt notice that Wigly didnt vote yesterday and now that is irritating me. Sure day ended early but no vote down even in RVS is kinda weird

Nook + Axe + Dys on the same person back to back is also weird and I wouldnt be surprised if one of them isnt pure and is just trying to set up some weird wifom situation with one of the three of them later like "Oh no Axe flipped wolf, we cant trust Dys or Nook" I dunno its is it as interesting as I think it is?

Ender + Sabi, I dunno if two wolves sit on porcha and then seanzie after tommy so maybe they are weirdly unpaired in this pairing? Is that insane?

You mean Porscha there? That's the wagon the three are on.
Wish I could believe in a Freudian slip here.

Voted Dyslexicon with Achromatically.
The chance for that wagon to be the purest are highest. It was guaranteed to not have two mafias on it.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:45 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:41 am You lost me at Nook townlean. I don't think that's supposed to happen.
But good effort.

Not everyone is as nanook-challenged as you

Always found your strategies hard to comprehend.
But if there was any chance you could be caught, the one on D1 was it.

You lost me at Nook townlean. I don't think that's supposed to happen.
But good effort.

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:57 am Lol scumread rightly for the wrong reasons.

Thats crap.

Maybe, but it sounds cool and you lol'd

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:39 am

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:37 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:36 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:32 am Someone join me on Sean plz N ty xoxo

Something something my sword.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

which sword

48.5" overall, 38" blade, silvered, brown plain handle, solid core steel. A little more unwieldy than the shorter blades I have but nothing better for a good overhead slice.

Feel like mars at times?

Dr.Wilgy in hindsight might be someone I scumread rightly for the wrong reasons.
That post scumreading Sabi and Lucy while tommy sort of dragged himself into the thread would have been very brave for a mafia.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:27 am @Vivax put down the tinfoil

My vote's still in the same place and I was born with tinfoil.
I think wolves in this game should play like Nook, so it's a bit of a compliment to him if I think he is and vote him.

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:19 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:18 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:47 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:46 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:42 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:32 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:29 pm

Ah

Id say kinda half and half, most people im treating it as a day one pretty much given the unexpected end time, but im still treating axe and mac as v likely town

Thoughts on Vivax because he's my strong tr in context of Tommy

Do you have specific posts? Tommy had very few posts and I dont remember him interacting with Vivax in a clearing way

It was on Vivax side. He kept calling Tommy Matt and correcting himself. I think it's something w/w wouldn't do

Eh maybe I am crazy but in the same line of Tommy going "Who is rondo?" "Oh YOU is Rondo" I see calling someone the wrong name exactly something I would do as wolf to get a clear like this. So I dont like you clearing Vivax on this. But I can see your point

0% he does this, even if coached

Don't know seems like plain old wifom to me. But I entertained Mac/Rondo as w/v. Then I'd have to go back to reading Achro as possible mafia for the 'feel' thingy.
Tommy was weirdly hung up on Mac with game unrelated questions, maybe a reaction to being bussed into the ground? I don't know Mac's meta well enough to know if I should expect that from him as w.

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:05 am vivax thinks similarly to me, smart but bad at making themselves understandable

I try to say more with less and leave some ambiguity once in a while. If interested in my alignment someone might enquire.
Also random crazy or insightful texts. Though I feel bad at times for just dumping them on some mafia forum, but knowing they can get read instantly makes it very tempting.

How TF did no one die on N1? Mac-Rondo hiding in a mountain of potatoes is very much something to keep in mind. But only push when you are rested and sane.

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:59 pm Alright. Wagon racing is always fun.

Vote Wilgy for being a quiet outlier, fitting the MO of what I think a tommy-mate would like, and the sake of wagon races.

That's just lazy.
Not everyone obvitowns for varying reasons.

Also, drama!

Hey Mac what was that about policy limming Rondo on D1? Can't remember a particular reason.
It bugs me you're a bit silent on that department on D2.

I'm starting to get Mac-Rondo tinfoils which I would really like not to this early. Or maybe just one of them. But I had some expectation that you both would be more eager and paranoid solving each other.

Honestly anyone having their online status turned on is >rand mech cleared town LOL

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:15 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:10 pm I wouldn't be surprised if Rondo was the host ;>

It is true. I am JJJ @JaggedJimmyJay I am sorry we are outed as being the same person

Spoiler: show

I dont actually expect you to reply to this

There was only one vote on wanting more Drama last time I checked though.
Tbqh I'm keeping my occasional drama wildfires out of this game. Easier to spontaneously pull off after hiatusing and surprising new players.

And yes lucy you are an enjoyable player to have around.

Maybe you remember the descriptions

a wild safari floodgate holding himself back

I'm not sure I can explain that by looking for specific posts.

I wouldn't be surprised if Rondo was the host ;>

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:03 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:12 pm So Achro and Kuti were trying to lull me out of the Tommy SR. I won't make an alignment read into that.
I guess I'll tackle the Rondo mistery again today.

Go for it

Well.
You're one some players have been looking for on the last couple pages would be my guess.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:44 pm Can someone tell me why specifically they are reading dizzy as town? It would help me solve if I understood more of these.

Dizzy is really god at projecting their mood into the thread even while not wanting to do much.
Realized that in a game on MU and I don't think he was even posting. Had a few of these moments with other players too. I'm mostly collected so when a feeling pops out of nowhere while I look at the screen I will wonder where it came from.
Parapsychology stuff? Idk.