The Syndicate

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:36 am 1. Achro's legacy
2. Hasn't done much to help solve the game aside from calling himself lock town with no basis during early day 2 and making a locktown read on Mac that's trivial to make, feels like he just did that to better his positioning
3. Has virtually no wolf spew in his favor that I've been able to find so far

Wolf spew for Achro? Don't really get this. He dead.

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:57 am Lol scumread rightly for the wrong reasons.

Thats crap.

Idk I almost want to read a compliment into this. It's about my reasons to vote for Porscha which I described in that way.

[VOTE: Vulgard] aubergine

Of course if you claim a shield on Vulgard I can back off. But...Feh

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:18 pm TRing Rondo, Sean and Mac. Rondo sounds identical to the last two games I've played here. I scum read him both games and he ended up flipped town (reanimation excluded).
Sean more toothy and hostile than last game where he was wolf. He seemed light and kinda floated through the thread as wolf, very different tone this game.
Mac could be anything I suppose, but he's putting in the work and it's not feeling forced to this point. His reaction to me piling on was classic too, enjoyable really. His read on me is wrong, but that's the way she goes.

Can't remember if it was Vivax or Wiggin who tried to tie me to Axehole because I made sure joke about us being Canadian.. They both entered at basically the same time so you'll have to forgive my processing here ( in catchup mode from work).

Lead wagons seem good. Porscha trying to excuse herself from putting in any effort because neither Sean or I had was sketch, and I pointed that out earlier. I'll be the first to say I totally suck at this game, so pinning any sort of excuse as to why she's not playing on me, is pretty weak.

Tommy really seems like LHF, but at the same time their posting yesterday was just not townie at all and the fact the they haven't re-entered does come across frozen.

Can't put my finger on why, gut read I guess, but Dyslexicon pinged yesterday. Lucy still feels scummy as well. Upon reflection she spent her time trying to "look towny" and I felt some post come across as self conscious.

Fairly neutral post save the highlighted parts.
I guess I can postpone the 'trying to yeet lucy' for Vulgard today.

I've just seen townies write this kind of stuff too and I'm naturally paranoid.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:39 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:33 am Like, the only compelling reason I've seen to townread Nook is the Axe kill, which does seem weird coming from Nook. But lke... sometimes weird things happen.
One time I found a letter written in code on my balcony. I don't know how it got there and I still haven't cracked the code. I should give it another go tbh

That sounds interesting.

One time I housed a French fugitive or something in the house for a night. Left me two Euros and a lot of thanks in a letter that made me realize what he was.
No, nothing spicy.

I can believe it, doesn't mean I have to favour a lim on Nanook first.
Need to wait for everyone else to chime in anyway.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:19 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:55 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:51 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:39 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:08 pm With the disclaimer that I haven't read 99% of posts in the thread, this is my list of optimal chops in no particular order (anyone off the list isn't viable for today):

Enderwiggin
Porscha
Achromatic
Vivax
DrWilgy

Each have pros and cons, and variable amounts of information potential.
Nook was also not on Axe's radar. And I don't think Nook kills Axe unless he's worried about Axe specifically. I don't really know how worried or not Nook would be as mafia, but Axe didn't focus on Nook
If I look at this list and who took a stance between Ender/Porscha, Wilgy and Vivax are the only one remaining

@Vivax What are your thoughts on bus drivers?
Generally? You said it's not your meta to bus, I'll have to take you at your word for it and no one has challenged that.
Hot pick for busser would probably be Nook. But it's Nook and I have no clue. Lucy later implied a bus saying something like Tommy gave her PTSD which was quoted somewhere along these pages.

For me, the PoE remains Nook/Lucy
Then there's doctor reads on Nook so I'd go lucy here for looking like she was shielding Tommy at points.

It seemed like the moment I SRed Tommy and made a busser read on Nanook, Lucy and Sabi jumped at me to talk me out of it for newbie-slack, one of them could have been mafia seeking for help to not look alone with a bad read. They got it, but at some point there has to be a reckoning. And Sabi flipped. Alas.
I was more so wondering about your thoughts on bussing in your own play. I just asked indirectly, because Vivex vibes

Hard to say, I use it as last resort and usually look bad from it. Being confidently wrong as town has its perks if I carry them over to scumplay which I struggle with.
I guess the trouble stems from making a plausible scumread for bad reasons since it's not supposed to go off, then retract it without looking like it was full of crap. The alternative is pretending the teammates don't exist and get caught off it.
Too much theorycrafting for me atm, one could probably fill a book with the game theory required for the game.

I'd say I could have bussed Tommy from the way I went about it. But I don't push every single player at some point when I'm mafia, usually. And activity is much lower. I do much less crazy stuff etc.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:02 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:07 am Meh I don't think Dizzy as a wolf decides to make bussing both their partners their day 1 agenda when at least Porscha was in a decent spot at the time
Man, almost like I have said this already.

You think Vulg is it or where does the snark come from?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:51 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:39 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:08 pm With the disclaimer that I haven't read 99% of posts in the thread, this is my list of optimal chops in no particular order (anyone off the list isn't viable for today):

Enderwiggin
Porscha
Achromatic
Vivax
DrWilgy

Each have pros and cons, and variable amounts of information potential.
Nook was also not on Axe's radar. And I don't think Nook kills Axe unless he's worried about Axe specifically. I don't really know how worried or not Nook would be as mafia, but Axe didn't focus on Nook
If I look at this list and who took a stance between Ender/Porscha, Wilgy and Vivax are the only one remaining

@Vivax What are your thoughts on bus drivers?

Generally? You said it's not your meta to bus, I'll have to take you at your word for it and no one has challenged that.
Hot pick for busser would probably be Nook. But it's Nook and I have no clue. Lucy later implied a bus saying something like Tommy gave her PTSD which was quoted somewhere along these pages.

For me, the PoE remains Nook/Lucy
Then there's doctor reads on Nook so I'd go lucy here for looking like she was shielding Tommy at points.

It seemed like the moment I SRed Tommy and made a busser read on Nanook, Lucy and Sabi jumped at me to talk me out of it for newbie-slack, one of them could have been mafia seeking for help to not look alone with a bad read. They got it, but at some point there has to be a reckoning. And Sabi flipped. Alas.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:56 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:40 am
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:11 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:01 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:59 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:40 pm Putting any more pressure on Tommy given their content and status before getting a concrete summary from lucy of the type of player they are feels like wolfsiding tbh. Putting the manner aside of their actual alignment I feel as if this is a good chance for lucy to provide data for us on someone they know.

@lucy
they’re more aggressive than me, would push people D1 typically and send a lot of messages that are AI, this isn’t his play at all and i can’t protect him if he’s barely playing
I see. Thank you.

I look forward to the aggression when Tommy comes back. Unlike a couple of people I don't think this amount of time being gone is particularly noteworthy and they didn't strike me as the type to be frozen and crying in wolf chat.

Have you seen them wolf, Lucy?
they’re not the type to freeze up at all, the fact they didn’t talk all day yesterday is alarming imo, lots of ptsd from them so i can’t help but support their lynch
This looks good for lucy
Might seem like a pretty basic distancing/bussing post but I read it as fairly genuine especially since when you're in a position of authority on somebody's alignment and they're your wolf partner you can go the extra mile and try to make them look better instead of this
The "can't help but" part also seems genuine, like the "I feel bad about it but this is probably mafia" mindset you can be in as a villager and something you're less likely to write as a wolf because your TMI would make you less inclined to admit you feel guilty about wolfreading your partner
But they did freeze up and [REDACTED] out of the [REDACTED] so is that rand town defending a friend or rand wolf trying to help a partner who actually is frozen?

Maybe you just pointed out a reason to go Vulgard instead because that interpretation lacks a lot of suspicion and is very wannabe right about lucy's alignment being town.

But I guess it'd be mannered to let him figure out something. If I were in @lucy 's stead, I'd get a few hooks in if I knew I were town.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:40 am
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:11 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:01 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:59 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:40 pm Putting any more pressure on Tommy given their content and status before getting a concrete summary from lucy of the type of player they are feels like wolfsiding tbh. Putting the manner aside of their actual alignment I feel as if this is a good chance for lucy to provide data for us on someone they know.

@lucy
they’re more aggressive than me, would push people D1 typically and send a lot of messages that are AI, this isn’t his play at all and i can’t protect him if he’s barely playing
I see. Thank you.

I look forward to the aggression when Tommy comes back. Unlike a couple of people I don't think this amount of time being gone is particularly noteworthy and they didn't strike me as the type to be frozen and crying in wolf chat.

Have you seen them wolf, Lucy?
they’re not the type to freeze up at all, the fact they didn’t talk all day yesterday is alarming imo, lots of ptsd from them so i can’t help but support their lynch
This looks good for lucy
Might seem like a pretty basic distancing/bussing post but I read it as fairly genuine especially since when you're in a position of authority on somebody's alignment and they're your wolf partner you can go the extra mile and try to make them look better instead of this
The "can't help but" part also seems genuine, like the "I feel bad about it but this is probably mafia" mindset you can be in as a villager and something you're less likely to write as a wolf because your TMI would make you less inclined to admit you feel guilty about wolfreading your partner

Achro pressured her into giving that information. At the start of the day she wasn't so generous with giving that info about her experience with Tommy.

I'm late anyway. MacDougall was already walking over her I saw while catching up. But it wouldn't be me if I didn't occasionally throw out a random arse theory when getting into a new phase.
Probably worth considering Nanook as well. It's just...Both are really hard reads, unless I just grab MacDougall by the shadow of his tunic and let him drag me across the floor to the preferred elim. Vulgo sheeping.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:12 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:05 am Best arguments I can find for Lucy W, which is really a daunting task considering I always hear the same tone in my head, is mentioning experience with Tommy and referring to him as p-lynch. Plus maybe trying to talk me out of the vote on him with Sabi on D1.
It's really not a lot and I don't know what to expect from W lucy but if this is W lucy, you probs also just policy-elim her and hope for the best. Maybe someone more familiar with reading her can help. But apparently it's the 7th FM game here.
Haven't really found a post where the alignment slipped out in any significant way. Just the holding back from taking Tommy and suplex him sticks out here. Plus maybe the way she talked to Rondo, delighted by the chaos.
Spoiler: show

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:37 pm i see tommy as a policy lynch myself, but i was gonna wait some more

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:23 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:20 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:19 pm There exist two worlds for Porscha atm

Porscha wolf and you're fine
Porscha town and you look really bad imo

So explain again how it would make sense for wolf macdougall to see town porscha lock town him and push her as mafia for it?
Because it makes you look really good in a conventional sense. "Why would wolf mac do this?"

Well, because mislynches are a wolf's best friend, obviously. You if wolf are clearly a power wolf so you have no shortage of people who will read you o=
Okay but I already have at least 4-5 easy mischops, why do I push Porscha instead of just letting her shield me?

you don't have any understanding of how I play the wolf alignment achro, nor should you... but the fact that you don't means you really should be deferring to the players in this game who have seen me wolf... ie. most of them.
am i an easy mischop?

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:02 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:02 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:01 pm tommy was not bussed (at minimum he didn’t go along with it)
Oh yeah I don't think Tommy went along with anything lol
you know that by actions, i’ve known him for 5 years

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:27 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:25 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:19 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:18 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:47 pm

It was on Vivax side. He kept calling Tommy Matt and correcting himself. I think it's something w/w wouldn't do
Eh maybe I am crazy but in the same line of Tommy going "Who is rondo?" "Oh YOU is Rondo" I see calling someone the wrong name exactly something I would do as wolf to get a clear like this. So I dont like you clearing Vivax on this. But I can see your point
0% he does this, even if coached
Don't know seems like plain old wifom to me. But I entertained Mac/Rondo as w/v. Then I'd have to go back to reading Achro as possible mafia for the 'feel' thingy.
Tommy was weirdly hung up on Mac with game unrelated questions, maybe a reaction to being bussed into the ground? I don't know Mac's meta well enough to know if I should expect that from him as w.
no, he’s no idiot, that scenario never happens

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:26 am do u like the gamestate @RondoDimBuckle

Im not sure if the posts you have chosen show the actual game state at the time. Even in isolation they dont really show what you are trying to say. Anyone else seeing that?

What a strange case

It's mostly quotes I picked out for hints of overconfidence that sometimes indicate someone is scum.
The 'am I an easy mischop' to Mac one is quite cheeky, but he mentioned a certain cheekyness about lucy already when going about the scumslip he was seeing.

Best arguments I can find for Lucy W, which is really a daunting task considering I always hear the same tone in my head, is mentioning experience with Tommy and referring to him as p-lynch. Plus maybe trying to talk me out of the vote on him with Sabi on D1.
It's really not a lot and I don't know what to expect from W lucy but if this is W lucy, you probs also just policy-elim her and hope for the best. Maybe someone more familiar with reading her can help. But apparently it's the 7th FM game here.
Haven't really found a post where the alignment slipped out in any significant way. Just the holding back from taking Tommy and suplex him sticks out here. Plus maybe the way she talked to Rondo, delighted by the chaos.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:37 pm i see tommy as a policy lynch myself, but i was gonna wait some more

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:23 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:20 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:19 pm There exist two worlds for Porscha atm

Porscha wolf and you're fine
Porscha town and you look really bad imo

So explain again how it would make sense for wolf macdougall to see town porscha lock town him and push her as mafia for it?
Because it makes you look really good in a conventional sense. "Why would wolf mac do this?"

Well, because mislynches are a wolf's best friend, obviously. You if wolf are clearly a power wolf so you have no shortage of people who will read you o=
Okay but I already have at least 4-5 easy mischops, why do I push Porscha instead of just letting her shield me?

you don't have any understanding of how I play the wolf alignment achro, nor should you... but the fact that you don't means you really should be deferring to the players in this game who have seen me wolf... ie. most of them.
am i an easy mischop?

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:02 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:02 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:01 pm tommy was not bussed (at minimum he didn’t go along with it)
Oh yeah I don't think Tommy went along with anything lol
you know that by actions, i’ve known him for 5 years

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:27 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:25 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:19 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:18 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:47 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:46 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:42 pm

Thoughts on Vivax because he's my strong tr in context of Tommy
Do you have specific posts? Tommy had very few posts and I dont remember him interacting with Vivax in a clearing way
It was on Vivax side. He kept calling Tommy Matt and correcting himself. I think it's something w/w wouldn't do
Eh maybe I am crazy but in the same line of Tommy going "Who is rondo?" "Oh YOU is Rondo" I see calling someone the wrong name exactly something I would do as wolf to get a clear like this. So I dont like you clearing Vivax on this. But I can see your point
0% he does this, even if coached
Don't know seems like plain old wifom to me. But I entertained Mac/Rondo as w/v. Then I'd have to go back to reading Achro as possible mafia for the 'feel' thingy.
Tommy was weirdly hung up on Mac with game unrelated questions, maybe a reaction to being bussed into the ground? I don't know Mac's meta well enough to know if I should expect that from him as w.
no, he’s no idiot, that scenario never happens

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:26 am do u like the gamestate @RondoDimBuckle

Okay, makes sense. Still thought the posts felt off tonally. At least I pointed it out.

But in this whirlpool of scumclaims, I only see lucy possible if I take RondoMac as town at face value.
I think it's the least pressured slot on D2 at least. I'm curious about this anyway because I don't recall going against lucy in a game so far.

[VOTE: Lucy] aubergine

I have bad news fellas, we have to kill MacDougall I think

Thought that occurred to me during the night phase while looking at the last page before EoD and seeing he was still tryharding with his posts

This is a purely symbolic token vote
[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Thanks

Compulsive writing feh
Hands are off

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:56 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:55 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:52 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:49 am What? You think I'm lying too?
If you lie too what does that make the answer?
what makes you think I am accusing you of lying?
Nothing. I just asked.
Ooookay then, back to Achro
doesnt look like nothing, seems like a serious question. Like you legitimately think I think you are a liar and I am accusing you of lying and you are feeling defensive about it. Now you are playing it off as nothing

Yes I play it off as nothing because we have enough to go off this game that no one should have a legitimate reason to think I'm mafia from the way I went about this game and esp. tommy and Porscha
And I can lie as town too once that's established, so you can have a legitimate reason to think I'm a liar.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:52 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:49 am What? You think I'm lying too?
If you lie too what does that make the answer?
what makes you think I am accusing you of lying?

Nothing. I just asked.
Ooookay then, back to Achro

What? You think I'm lying too?
If you lie too what does that make the answer?

Achromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:29 am Btw vivax you may have answered but what is the policy in the policy lynch of me

@Vivax

That I thought there was an expectation that you also play to withhold information as town and lie?
Like Rondo has been described.
So that makes you tricky to townread while you're lying, but at some point you get used to it.

Still here, back on Wilgy
Makes for more interesting wagons

I'm back on Achro now for consolidation. Gonna go off for a while.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:19 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:10 am I just don't understand how you can be town, do that and still talk of yourself as bad. You have such a bad perception of yourself during your entrance into this game but just casually throw two darts and hammer two mafia. No reason to downplay yourself there.
Yeah, you’re right. Actually all of my best insights and reads that really hits, I often throw out as a joke or with disclaimers. There’s probably a lot psychological bs that goes into that, and while I feel pretty grown and aware of my patterns and short comings, I can’t really seem to get out of that. Another reason why mafia is interesting tbh. I’m afraid of being wrong, so I tend to downplay my own insights in favor of others. Like, I probably shouldn’t vote Achro here i.e. I probably am wrong as often as anyone, but that not really the point.

Being wrong can lead to funny situations. Depending on the player and the game. But usually the mafia team can use it to their advantage and it makes the game more fun for them, unless they just use it to go lurk.
Doesn't mean one should do it every game. Expectations can make it stale, you don't want to just be the shape that fits into a form made by other players, so it's fine to have an off game once in a while (generally speaking, not that you're having one).
It's good on you already that you can waltz in and solve 2/3s of it, even when sometimes it's the fluff one's there for. The fluff often makes it worthwhile to revisit.

But actually, not really

Don't know if you bus as mafia I'll need someone to tell me if that's within your meta

I just don't understand how you can be town, do that and still talk of yourself as bad. You have such a bad perception of yourself during your entrance into this game but just casually throw two darts and hammer two mafia. No reason to downplay yourself there.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:00 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:26 am Reading Mac's self eval was interesting. I have noticed that he's extremely fast at times, but maybe it's familiarity with the players.

I think that strategy wise on D1 town profits from TvT clinches and scummy looking townies in general. It's up to wolves if they make anything out of it, but usually they do try to stay out of it in my experience. Thread noise and those blending into it I guess.

Sometimes there's also moments where someone pops in and starts posting and you glimpse something of their alignment without realizing why. Strange phenomenons and all. Or perceive a mood remotely just cause you're looking at the same thing as other ones. Maybe I'm imagining it, but it's a nice thought to have.
You’re adorable tbh

Thanks!

I find you really hard to read from tone on reread. Kinda aloof in the first pages.
You voted both red flips right off the bat, how did you pull that off?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:18 am Actually I probably shouldn't vote someone I haven't played with rn

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Because lack of impression or something

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:15 am [VOTE: Tommy] aubergine

Thread flow or he's frozen or whatever

Reading Mac's self eval was interesting. I have noticed that he's extremely fast at times, but maybe it's familiarity with the players.

I think that strategy wise on D1 town profits from TvT clinches and scummy looking townies in general. It's up to wolves if they make anything out of it, but usually they do try to stay out of it in my experience. Thread noise and those blending into it I guess.

Sometimes there's also moments where someone pops in and starts posting and you glimpse something of their alignment without realizing why. Strange phenomenons and all. Or perceive a mood remotely just cause you're looking at the same thing as other ones. Maybe I'm imagining it, but it's a nice thought to have.

Getting back on Achro. Policy.
Last few pages were a game of mafia in postgame

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:57 pm I'm not getting involved in the world's biggest game of Chicken between two town.

[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

Fine, I unvoted. Leaving the pick up to you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:45 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:05 pm I genuinely think Rondo is mafia.
oof. You really think I play the way I do if I am mafia? I could have slanked HARD day 3 after my day 1/2
It doesn't matter now. I don't need to figure you out cuz you're hard claiming doctor so you're self resolving.

I'm sure you know too who real doc is and it isn't Rondo

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:45 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:41 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:38 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:29 am FWIW I don't feel good about Porscha/Tommy being a team just based off the almost mocking way Porscha asked Tommy for their FM experience after Tommy was like 'oh Rondo is a player'
can you pull quotes

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:07 am
Tommy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:30 pm Ohhh rondo is a player
how much FM have you played

I just found something so sincere in this question that my mind immediately went 'not aligned' tbh
Seems like a neutral question to me.
With a concealed payload of rondo pocketing.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:46 am Wolves don't need to pocket other wolves is a conspiracy theory tbh
But if Porscha W will be an interesting controversial angle to check for spew.

QED

Who I said was pocketing Rondo on D1.
You got the complete interaction and it was true: Wolves were pocketing other wolves

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:38 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:20 pm Doesn't Rondo have the super deal of lucy approval lol
Like really ask yourself if there is a person in the world incapable of being mafia teammates with someone and faking "who is Rondo"?

Then getting lol'd at by Porscha, more or less

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:16 pm Sean is usually solvey.

He hasn't this game nor has he tunneled random people.

Like idk he's not been towny and his excuses over how fast this game is going isn't a valid enough excuse.

Has anyone been towny this game?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:09 pm Also why is Seanzie clear?

Is Posts too casually to be mafia acceptable?

I'm on Rondo now
because Mac is
and because they seem uncomfy talking casually lately
and because of stuff Achro is saying

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:49 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:21 pm Also a little insight is until I get to talk to people about my thought process day 1 and am told 'actually achro I think you lost the plot here' I die thinking that how I handled Tommy had actually no downside risk for town at all so being told it was bad a lot felt gaslighting. That's not an accusation of it I know no one meant it like that but it gnawed at me super hard.

Also it is fitting my defense was what it was. That character died too.
I mean I never called it bad, it was fine. I don't disagree with the premise of ignoring them for most of the day to make it more productive, its close to the same thing I've done with wilgy.

The SR/poeing is largely for d2 and macro stuff

Ouch Nanook town

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:51 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:48 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:46 pm I actually love how you solve as well and would be keen to discuss mafia theory with you privately after the game. But also

Penis
this is like forum game #7 for me
I find it translates well if you have the right mentality. I played chat mafia for about 4 or 5 years before switching to forum mafia. My biggest problem was I used to rage a lot tbh. I had lots of maturity issues and actually thought I was the best always. Why I am sometimes overly sensitive to certain lines of thought.

Chat's faster, and becoming less emotional over time is a thing (mostly)
Sure, am interested into a postgame chat

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:29 pm Mac sorry I singed you a few times. Outside of one time which you apologized for you treated me with respect and I appreciate you hearing me out. Very pro town.

Vivax you are maybe my favorite new player tbh. I love how you think.

Sabi be nice to yourself

Lucy you are fun to play with as well although slightly off-putting at times

Ender it was fun crossing swords with you. Don't tunnel me so early for days next time please scum do that sometimes and it makes me paranoid.

Thank you for indulging an insomniac.

Woot, thanks a lot! I appreciate the compliment. You have an astounding thread presence, speed and intricacy. I don't think I can keep up on those metrics. I'm just particularly prone to drifting off into the imaginary while writing. I can't always keep up constancy in speed and other things.
I'll attempt to follow your legacy and campaign for Nook tomorrow, maybe. If you flip town that is. Wish one could have confidence on that, but I'm personally leaning towards yes.

Rare and illustrious Nook wagon maybe?

Soooo. If I look for what Seanzie could mean with Porscha pushing Wilgy I find this.
Porschas comment on Nanook looks bad for him
And means Achro is likely not W

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:29 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:28 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:48 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:19 pm I don't think I've been particularly lazy in thread

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:13 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 3:55 pm

Where'd that come from?
Which part? The specific Ender/Nanookness of the post, or me wanting Nanook?

Ender/Nanook comes from Achromatic having put those names forward and the people seem to push more towards Ender.

Nanook's actions remind me a lot of how Nanook plays as scum sometimes. He is being overly generous to NAA to pocket NAA, his pushes are meh, moving votes seemingly more to avoid sus and push opporunistically than seeming to care about where he was voting.

Earlier D2 when I came in the thread, him moving off me onto Porscha I think pinged me, and just now he had another movement that pinged me. He can be lazy IiT as either alignment, but there are certain things he does more as scum than town and I think I'm seeing those things.
Sure but you havent been exactly helpful [VOTE: Nanook ] aubergine
I've given my reads and I voted mafia d1, I've done my job
Nook has posted and with thorough thoughts like 3x as much as he has in the last 3 games I've played with him combined and I think I still TL him but I'm mildly worried hes trying harder cuz he isnt town so I'd need to spend time through ISO but I remember liking his back and forth with achro earlier in the day
Seems like a lot of nothing sauce.
Only funny cuz it's coming from you

Wilgy town from these posts I wanna believe

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:59 pm Just found out my week is going to be way more hectic than anticipated. Theres no way I'll be able to catch up and keep up, and I will be a liability as things develop down the stretch.

Should I ask for sub this deep into game, or do you guys wanna lynch me?

I'm fine with either.

Puh-lease

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:56 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:20 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:18 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:11 am I really don't like how you speak to me with a heaped undertone of I'm beneath you and a dumbass Achro.

I have never at any point thought you were stupid.
Well why do you keep talking to me in a way that makes me feel like you're trying to make me feel dumb?
Projecting thoughts onto me based on how you perceive me would be my guess.

Unless you mean my response to the solve of me and dizzy in thst case I am just kidding around and also I suspect dizzy so I have no problem testing your theory dizzy first haha
the "haha" made this post feel uncomfortable

This probs the worst thing I found for Achro in Porscha's ISO
But there's a stinging lack of an opinion on Dr. Wilgy

Achro Wilgy are tricky solves from wolf spew
But then you look at how achro reacts to policy-lunch suggestions and go like 'nah, this is too much'

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:00 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:59 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:58 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:52 am Lol that's funny.

Anyway sad that ender unfound me. I was happy.
Oh no, I know you're town.

But I must sacrifice your blood at the altar of Nanook so that he may consider Wilgy.
We could just all kill wilgy without his permission and then if it isn't the easy solve then just try again you know x(
But this way I can pretend I'm a cultist.

tee hee

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:38 am I am the doctor

:doubt:

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:37 am Wanna know the best part about today?

waking up

The audience demands Rondo chop

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