The Syndicate

Jk I missed a page, gonna read it

I see I've missed nothing important

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:37 am ilario doing not a damn thing seems to be indicative of a wolf not wanting to spew. I suppose that situation should resolve on its own by the next day though.

You mean he has access to this thread like Porscha did, but hasn't posted?

Also I disagree with ignoring the previous slotholder when making reads on a sub. I mean, yeah, I always try to evaluate the sub on their posts as well because if I detect a disparity it obviously means my read is wrong somewhere, but that's kind of why I think it's important to evaluate both (granted, Dubz didn't have many posts in total and I believe only one of them was AI - I went through their ISO overnight and double-checked this, as well as reading Rondo's ISO).

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:13 am
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:10 am Ain't no need to neg people about past games. We learn and move on, gg go next.
Not gonna potentially follow a mistake that led directly to an easily avoidable town loss. Abby could've just explained why they felt RDB was towny, but no. This is even dumber than that last game because Dubz can't even come back, meaning it's literally just based on a few posts that weren't even in D1

I had agreed with Abbi on her Dubz read at the time she made it, and I commented on it. At this point I don't think it holds as much weight as I thought it did at the time, but I still see decent reasons why Rondo can be town for his own posts, not Dubz's.

I'm just chiming in on this because I made a read on both of the slotholders and think it just points to Rondo being town. He's definitely not my strongest townread by far, though.

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

I voted him earlier but just because I forgot to vote in the poll, I'm voting again

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:27 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:24 am
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:23 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:21 am Good morning
A bit busy again today but I'll be around for a while before eod regardless
Also I have an extra vote on me, lol
Curioser and curiouser
My guess is that it's actually coming from the other thread
Yeah the current going theory is that they indicate pairups with people who were wagoned or killed somehow in the other thread. TSP has one and reports illario is dead and in a mason chat with him, same as with abigail/porscha. No one else has reported one today.

Ah ok, that lines up with what I thought, then

Wait did I vote in thread and forget to vote in the poll lmao

I mean, lots of people said they think Rondo is scum and then voted Dizzy.
I said I changed my mind overnight, Rondo's ISO was not scummy yesterday, and then I voted Dizzy to put pressure there.
Dunno what everyone else's explanation is. Has Dizzy shown up yet?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:24 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:20 am saving current votecount for later
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Dyslexicon
3
25%
Voters: Ranmilia, pyxxy, tedxtr
tedxtr
2
17%
Voters: Bereft, ☆Princess Abigail☆
TonyStarkPrime
2
17%
Voters: leetic, Gira
No vote / Unvote
1
8%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime

no Rondo vote yet

Aren't there like four people not voting? Why is Rondo called out specifically?

I assumed he was pointing out that Rondo is not a wagon despite having been talked about

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:23 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:21 am Good morning
A bit busy again today but I'll be around for a while before eod regardless
Also I have an extra vote on me, lol
Curioser and curiouser

My guess is that it's actually coming from the other thread

Good morning
A bit busy again today but I'll be around for a while before eod regardless
Also I have an extra vote on me, lol

Gotta go, board game night but I'll check the thread when I can.

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

I want to hear from him, and I want to hear more than just a read with no explanation before he dips again.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:37 am Agenda doesn't only have to be a push to actually get them voted out. Discrediting correct reads is also agenda.

Yeah, I didn't think I saw any discrediting from TSP but forgot about the Bereft thing so yeah, I understand your case now

Not sure how much I agree but at least I see where you're coming from

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:36 am Maybe not his scumreads, but he did make a serious push to protect and get people off of Bereft (and/or dizzy), and it was working, even before any of the robyn stuff happened. Here's the post again for reference:

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:05 pm Here’s the situation: not all is right. We’re about to limp into the stupidest looking bereft chop I’ve ever seen. It’s probably rand and there are somewhat good reasons not to do that. So then, who’s in this game who should know better? I promise I didn’t just immediately jump to the two voters on Bereft for the record, I think that looks slightly towny. Leetic seems to have lost a bit of the edge, can’t tell why. WWA is posting a lot but has no thread control nor have they attempted to wrest it. I won’t vote for Mac or dizzy day 1. Ted seems alright. Mac’s defending Gira. I won’t vote Rondo D1 for opposite reasons. Ran and Robyn are self resolving.
The two people he's pushing are the voters on Bereft, which he even lampshades directly and calls them towny(?!). The other wagon atp is dizzy with me and mac voting there iirc, and he blows that off as well.

The more I look here the more I am seeing tsp/bereft/dizzy. Which is very premature but. There's hella agenda.

I completely forgot about that lol, thanks for quoting it

I guess I'm saying that "not helpful to town" is not the same as "harmful to town" but that's probably just my interpretation of it

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:20 am wind my wonderful and precious friend

"not helpful to town" is literally what "agenda" IS

that is literally the wolf agenda! to do antitown things and muddy the waters to where wolves are town and town are wolves and anyone's behavior could be anything! if that's not "agenda" then what does agenda mean to you??

Agenda, to me, is when a wolf makes an active effort to push a town player that they think will actually gain traction as a wagon, not just to muddy the waters but to try to get their target voted out.

I could buy that w!TSP wants to see what sticks, but I legit think that none of his pushes so far sound remotely like they'd stick. None of them are even sowing paranoia for me, and I would expect a wolf to at least try to increase paranoia levels by writing up a case on their unlikely targets and trying to convince people to give those names another look. But I don't feel like TSP is trying to convince anyone of his reads. He's just giving them, and it seems to end there. Idk, maybe I'm just immune to whatever convincing he's done but I've seen no real push to make others believe his reads. Unless you count him saying that nobody has given a real towncase on Abbi, but that's kinda been objectively true, and it doesn't change my opinion.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:13 am In particular if ted IS a wolf ted NEVER goes over there. But.

Yeah, I think I get what you're saying. I'm at this weird in-between place with Ted, though, because I feel like post-wise he's not the scummiest in the list, but I also feel like there's something off about his wagon formation/dissolution and I don't necessarily think it was just wolves trying to hop on him to create another town counterwagon to Robyn.

Speaking of wagons, though, yeah I agree with the points you guys have been saying about Dizzy, but more about how he's been a low influence with his drive-by reads and votes and less about where on Robyn's wagon he was sitting.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:49 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:27 am And the flop on Robyn geez

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:27 am Could it be that Mac was killed because he was wrong, not because he was right?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:36 am well now I’m sitting on Gira / ran / X yeah

Abby is just in the archetype of people I like to suspect [is the reality of it]
[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Just look at this. There is no universe town TSP comes in to this day and believes and says these things.

I just kinda think his pushes are so completely opposite to my reads and to the consensus that it's probably not agenda
He doesn't have a ton of thread influence so picking targets to push who are unlikely to become wagons seems to do nothing, imo
If we're going by the "not helpful to town" metric, maybe I could see it, but otherwise there's no agenda as far as I can tell.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:36 am well now I’m sitting on Gira / ran / X yeah

Abby is just in the archetype of people I like to suspect [is the reality of it]

You're gonna have to sell me hard on the Ran scumread. And with more than just that "abysmal" was an out-of-place description.
Gira I went back and forth on earlier and figured at some point that I was just being uncharitable to him earlier in the game. I'd also like to hear a case on him.

Is it just that you think wolves have thread pull?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:27 am Could it be that Mac was killed because he was wrong, not because he was right?

If that were the case, I would expect he'd be killed for having an incorrect townread and not necessarily an incorrect scumread, like if he were hard shielding a wolf.

(hes gonna hate that I'm saying this since it risks tearing up the towncore, but I mean from a wolf perspective it's more beneficial to kill a loud townie with thread pull who accidentally townreads a wolf imo)

But I legit just think he was killed for being super towny, and I'm not reading into whether his reads were accurate or not, beyond what I already formed opinions on while he was around.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:22 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:24 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:21 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:22 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:12 am Idk don’t make much of it
Do you still have Dyslexicon and Abby as wolfreads or have your views changed in light of the flip?
I think Dizzy looks maybe marginally better from the vote dip, Abby looks bad still
What about Dizzy's parked vote looks good? And can you elaborate on your read of Abby?
The atmosphere around the Robyn push shifted a lot, for Dizzy as a wolf to drop the vote in that manner would require in my mind maybe an unreasonable amount of foresight. This is somewhat of a bad explanation but I just think like it’s not an indicator of agenda. Then again, Dizzy is a good wolf and maybe knows Mac well enough to figure it out.

I don’t think Abby has contributed to the goals of the town in this game and moreover has received little attention and just occasionally some spare defenders saying “read her iso” (which ok I haven’t done). Granted we haven’t launched any wolves so no one has exactly contributed much. I also think it’s bizarre that people keep treating it like it’s a bad push. Like ??? No one has offered a concrete reason that Abby is towny, besides possibly if someone wants to make a spew read.

I think she actually put effort into solving the game early on
I'll see if that actually holds up but that was my reason for thinking Abbi is town

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:02 am Why did Nutella exit in this thread is sorta an interesting question, she was never in this thread

Maybe so that we know who's dead in the other thread? In case they might converge later on or something

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:48 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:38 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:36 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:01 pm Questions for @Porscha (keeping track of these in a post so we can use our time with them more efficiently):

How did nutella die?
Are the threads out of sync? (e.g. did Night 1 start 24 hours earlier in the other thread?)
Do you know anything about the hidden votes?

If anyone has any more feel free to add them
This is getting pretty irritating.

1. By NK.
2. We know this to be true.
3. IDK, my best guess is that its the corresponding outies of whoever received most votes at work, but I certainly don't think Porscha would know.

None of this is that hard to puzzle out.

~ Schweppes
If one and two are correct, why did nutella exit now instead of at EoD?
I mean, I don't think Porscha has given us a straight answer as to how they died yet. There's still a lot we don't know here.

I thought she got voted out, and presumably because of slanking

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:38 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:36 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:01 pm Questions for @Porscha (keeping track of these in a post so we can use our time with them more efficiently):

How did nutella die?
Are the threads out of sync? (e.g. did Night 1 start 24 hours earlier in the other thread?)
Do you know anything about the hidden votes?

If anyone has any more feel free to add them
This is getting pretty irritating.

1. By NK.
2. We know this to be true.
3. IDK, my best guess is that its the corresponding outies of whoever received most votes at work, but I certainly don't think Porscha would know.

None of this is that hard to puzzle out.

~ Schweppes
If one and two are correct, why did nutella exit now instead of at EoD?

Presumably because JJJ wasn't going to make an extra post about it during the evening, so he just waited till our eod?

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:57 pm So, about those hidden votes. We know robyn is town, and RDB and Abby were the other two to receive it. If it was a wolf power, I doubt they'd use it if it would spew the people who received them as town, as that's basically three clears in a phase. Thus, in that scenario, I feel two towns and a wolf receiving it makes the most sense, and all that's assuming a wolf isn't lying anyway, so we'd have one wolf in Abby/RDB. But if it's something from the other thread? Then I'd have no idea what to do about that, and seeing if Porscha knows anything would be our only hope.

I really don't think a wolf would use a hidden vote on a other wolf. That's why I said earlier, since it's a hidden vote, if anything a wolf would use it on, say, 2 town and then one of the scumteam would claim a fake third. We have no actual proof of these hidden votes except that we know Robyn was telling the truth. And I guess it's also possible it's a fake message, too, like if players are told about an extra vote on them but it's a bluff (although I have yet to think of why that would be useful).

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:46 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:22 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:20 pm I have. Feelings about Robyn but. They are probably not helpful. Regardless we move on. Robyn if you can see this thread I hope you are well.

So.

Rondo, Bereft, TSP, Dizzy all look abysmal to me here. I would like anyone who strongly townreads any of these players to tell me why.
I wrote updated thoughts about Rondo a few posts above, if you want my input
Noted. I disagree with robyn partnership being the main thrust of suspicion though, the main suspicion in my eyes is general wolfyness and lack of solving - that he hadn't and still hasn't Done anything in the game to help town beyond fluff and bluster and easy votes. I gave that a pass yesterday but one of my criteria for him was "he's charging at mac so let mac decide" and mac decided wolfy.

Regardless of his rep, Mac doesn't die if ALL his major suspicions are wrong and the four I listed were his suspects.

(Well three and Bereft, but he also scumread Bereft on first look and flipped around when he was scumreading Robyn, who godscumread Bereft, and we now know Robyn was town so.)

TSP also pinged mac's general scumdar, and before the whole mac robyn thing, we were going on bereft, and TSP came in trying to break that up with a gamestate read and a push on Abi which is... in my eyes weak and not good. There is a big part of me wanting to go Bereft -> TSP here.

And then there is Dizzy who is still just not playing the game but never got hard pressure for it except for me and mac, and now mac is dead.

I do not want to go tedxtr today.

I feel like wolf!TSP would have better options to push than Abbi and me because neither of us were wagons or even scumread by anyone else at the point when TSP decided he thought we were scum. Idk though, am I giving too much leeway to him for that? I just think they were kind of outlandish pushes since they would do pretty much nothing to further a wolf's agenda.

On the topic of Bereft, I will take a look at him again. But if you think Ted is towny, you think the wagons were T/T yesterday, i guess. And then you had Bereft and Rondo who were both pushing Ted rather than Robyn... You think if they're both wolfing, it was just for show? Because if Ted is town, there shouldn't have been a preference for who wolves would rather push over, unless they thought that Robyn would make a strong comeback on D2 (which I guess would make sense).

Ok I'm going to sleep, ping me if you have a question

I think my biggest regret from the Robyn yeet was that I signed up to play with them and then... didn't for long :/

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:41 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:38 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:31 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:29 pm Also I meant to post this yesterday
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Dyslexicon definitely stands out as the least TR-able of the early robyn voters. It's definitely a good blend-in vote.
Why? Can I get your review on all the d1 voters on Robyn?
The others were consensus townreads, Dyslexicon wasn't, plus they were a lot less vocal than the others so they definitely stand out in the list. I'm not sure the exact order, but if they were fifth I don't necessarily see wolves making that vote so early unless it was to protect ted or something. But again, I'll look at things more closely in a bit.

I believe the extra vote on Robyn happened before I voted them, and I think I was third on the list (could've been fourth, though, I was definitely in the middle)

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:37 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:34 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:32 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:32 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:30 pm I don't know why Bereft voted the hedge option, but damn their posting method is just so cryptic. If they don't get serious this phase there will be issues.
The hedge option?
"No vote" or "no lynch" or similar no-commitment options
...wasn't Bereft pushing Ted and also voting him?
He was voting tedxtr and presumably pushing him (though if he won't give it to us straight I wouldn't look too deeply into the posts), but by EoD went off for some reason. It's very weird.

Oh, I forgot he actually unvoted, I thought he had only commented that he was tired of the thread state and was just gonna let Robyn flip since they were way past majority at that point.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:36 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:28 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:24 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:12 pm Also I went through some ISOing last night and don't actually think Rondo is wolfy, it hinges on a couple of things that I could be wrong on but I'll reevaluate as the day progresses
Any questions that I can expand on?

Happy to just let things ride. I know youve got plans.tm so ill work with you
Not really any questions right now. I just think I wasn't being super generous in jumping on you toward eod yesterday but I saw the full picture when I ISO'd you overnight, and unlike everyone else opening the day today, I don't think you're a wolf now.
NGL I didnt even notice. I thought it was Ted/Leetic. I did see Mac did a classic wagon bait flashwagon on me. That made me chuckle

Oh I didn't actually move my vote, I was just saying I thought you had scum equity with Robyn but either way were anti-aligned with Ted. I wasn't settled on which way I was reading Ted, though.

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:32 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:32 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:30 pm I don't know why Bereft voted the hedge option, but damn their posting method is just so cryptic. If they don't get serious this phase there will be issues.
The hedge option?
"No vote" or "no lynch" or similar no-commitment options

...wasn't Bereft pushing Ted and also voting him?

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:30 pm I don't know why Bereft voted the hedge option, but damn their posting method is just so cryptic. If they don't get serious this phase there will be issues.

The hedge option?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:26 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:14 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:10 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:09 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:08 pm RDB still looks suspicious, so [VOTE: RDB] aubergine as a start
why does he look suspicious?
Mac and I (and others) went over it last EoD, and so far nothing has changed to make them look better. If anything, the Mac kill makes them look worse
Uh yeah but the main suspicion on him was because it was presumed he was partnered with Robyn lol

And Robyn flipped town

I understood his reasoning for preferring the Ted yeet over Robyn after I read back through his posts. it was because BOTH Robyn and Rondo had claimed extra votes on them, and Rondo first thought it was as punishment for self-voting but then when evidence suggested otherwise, he just assumed that anyone claiming the extra vote would be town. Imo that's an uninformed perspective.
yeah I always hate being on the main wagon day 1, even if its 100% wolf. You always need a counter wagon. People need to engage brain and not just sleepwalk into kill. thats how wolves hide

I was jumping between the Ted and Robyn wagons to encourage the Ted wagon to stay, lol. I thought those two were the best options and good counters to each other, given how most people strongly advocated for one or the other.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:24 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:12 pm Also I went through some ISOing last night and don't actually think Rondo is wolfy, it hinges on a couple of things that I could be wrong on but I'll reevaluate as the day progresses
Any questions that I can expand on?

Happy to just let things ride. I know youve got plans.tm so ill work with you

Not really any questions right now. I just think I wasn't being super generous in jumping on you toward eod yesterday but I saw the full picture when I ISO'd you overnight, and unlike everyone else opening the day today, I don't think you're a wolf now.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:20 pm I have. Feelings about Robyn but. They are probably not helpful. Regardless we move on. Robyn if you can see this thread I hope you are well.

So.

Rondo, Bereft, TSP, Dizzy all look abysmal to me here. I would like anyone who strongly townreads any of these players to tell me why.

Ted look good to you?

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:23 pm In the last game, when w!pyxxy was hedging off of the main options, he landed on his partner. This time, he landed on me, and I am definitely not his partner. So, while nothing really sells me on pyxxy being town, there are a lot of differences from his prior wolfgame. Granted, this isn't a rreliable indicator for every player; I played two consecutive games with w!neopest and she played pretty differently in both

I like this observation. Im pretty sure I've also seen him vote his wolf partner to distance from them before.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:20 pm I have. Feelings about Robyn but. They are probably not helpful. Regardless we move on. Robyn if you can see this thread I hope you are well.

So.

Rondo, Bereft, TSP, Dizzy all look abysmal to me here. I would like anyone who strongly townreads any of these players to tell me why.

I wrote updated thoughts about Rondo a few posts above, if you want my input

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:15 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:13 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:10 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:07 pm Anyway, I presume that means nutella won't be joining us, and Mac probably won't be in the other thread. Porscha should probably return this night. Perhaps lynch targets are allowed to return but nightkills are gone forever?

MacDougall seems likely to be a wolf kill. This at least reduces the possibility of a serial killer.
Yeah, I think because this is the home thread and the other is the work thread, people who die at work go home first, and people who die at home actually permadie? But I guess that doesn't add up with the night kill.
Though as far as I can tell, nutella never showed up here? Unless they were able to post last EoD but didn't for some reason?

I won't speculate about robyn's removal, but the fact that that didn't happen the moment they were lynched throws another wrench in your theory.
Yeah and tbh I never would've noticed it if not for the OP announcement, so you're probably right, people voted out might stick around like stumps (in the other thread?) and night kills just die and get removed.

EBWOP
"in the other thread" = the thread the player didn't start in

I'll stick around for a couple minutes more but then I'm leaving lol

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:13 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:10 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:07 pm Anyway, I presume that means nutella won't be joining us, and Mac probably won't be in the other thread. Porscha should probably return this night. Perhaps lynch targets are allowed to return but nightkills are gone forever?

MacDougall seems likely to be a wolf kill. This at least reduces the possibility of a serial killer.
Yeah, I think because this is the home thread and the other is the work thread, people who die at work go home first, and people who die at home actually permadie? But I guess that doesn't add up with the night kill.
Though as far as I can tell, nutella never showed up here? Unless they were able to post last EoD but didn't for some reason?

I won't speculate about robyn's removal, but the fact that that didn't happen the moment they were lynched throws another wrench in your theory.

Yeah and tbh I never would've noticed it if not for the OP announcement, so you're probably right, people voted out might stick around like stumps (in the other thread?) and night kills just die and get removed.

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:10 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:09 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:08 pm RDB still looks suspicious, so [VOTE: RDB] aubergine as a start
why does he look suspicious?
Mac and I (and others) went over it last EoD, and so far nothing has changed to make them look better. If anything, the Mac kill makes them look worse

Uh yeah but the main suspicion on him was because it was presumed he was partnered with Robyn lol

And Robyn flipped town

I understood his reasoning for preferring the Ted yeet over Robyn after I read back through his posts. it was because BOTH Robyn and Rondo had claimed extra votes on them, and Rondo first thought it was as punishment for self-voting but then when evidence suggested otherwise, he just assumed that anyone claiming the extra vote would be town. Imo that's an uninformed perspective.

Also I went through some ISOing last night and don't actually think Rondo is wolfy, it hinges on a couple of things that I could be wrong on but I'll reevaluate as the day progresses

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:07 pm Anyway, I presume that means nutella won't be joining us, and Mac probably won't be in the other thread. Porscha should probably return this night. Perhaps lynch targets are allowed to return but nightkills are gone forever?

MacDougall seems likely to be a wolf kill. This at least reduces the possibility of a serial killer.

Yeah, I think because this is the home thread and the other is the work thread, people who die at work go home first, and people who die at home actually permadie? But I guess that doesn't add up with the night kill.

Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:26 pm Oh, my compass, it reliably always pointed North and true.

I did not move the box with her things. I did not take a magnet and make the needle move.

I simply let them stay as they were. It will be missed if it is ever lost.

~ Bereft

Got it

thanks

Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:18 pm I think I'm going to lose my compass overnight. ~ Bereft

I thought you said it was pointing in the wrong direction

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:17 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:12 pm Any last questions for me before I go for the night?
Reads overview yeah. Anything you want to get out if you die.

:
Mac
Ran
TSP

:
Gira
leetic
Abbi
Bereft

in front of me:
pyxxy
Dizzy

:
Ted*
Rondo*

🫗:
Robyn

*Ted/Rondo with exactly one wolf, never W/W and probably not T/T

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:14 pm Admittedly robyn rondo abi is a team so I see where mac is coming from

I didn't consider Abbi with Rondo but Abbi/Robyn did cross my mind at some point
I forgot why, though

Oh I never wrote out my entire readlist, gimme a min

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