The Syndicate

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:58 pm [VOTE: Golden ] aubergine

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:56 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:55 pm It feels like Rondo didn't read any of the thread that happened before getting added in.

Not quite none. But limited. Being subbed in this late is rough.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:41 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:26 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:22 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:21 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:09 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:59 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:56 pm

Why me? I think I've shown I've got almost no clue what's going on still with all of my 'help what is happening' posts and I very much feel like a game of russian roulette right now.

Which is fake able watch



Help, what's going on? I haven't been in this game till today. Who should I vote?

Would you rather I feign confidence and vote someone I'm not certain on?

When Dennis gets yeeted he will blame everyone else for their bad work finding wolds and unironically will not realise he was part of the problem (Assuming of course he is town because this feels like a wolf trying to not give reads)

It doesn't sound like you know Dennis very well.

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:23 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:21 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:09 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:59 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:56 pm

Why me? I think I've shown I've got almost no clue what's going on still with all of my 'help what is happening' posts and I very much feel like a game of russian roulette right now.

Which is fake able watch



Help, what's going on? I haven't been in this game till today. Who should I vote?

Would you rather I feign confidence and vote someone I'm not certain on?

When Dennis gets yeeted he will blame everyone else for their bad work finding wolds and unironically will not realise he was part of the problem (Assuming of course he is town because this feels like a wolf trying to not give reads)

Uh no I won't. This is my first mafia game ever I would be terrified of blaming anyone

I do not.

Well if this is your first mafia game ever I am sorry for your rand

Because you most likely understand the concept of the game and most likely have played secret hitler or other such games which are the basic concept

You haev also most likely learned how to lie at some point in your life

So unfortunately for you doing nothing is telling of a wolf frozen not a town who doesnt know how to jump in

[VOTE: Dennis ] aubergine

I'd kill this.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:21 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:09 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:59 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:56 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:35 pm still no spoons, I'm sheeping wherever Dennis goes atm

Why me? I think I've shown I've got almost no clue what's going on still with all of my 'help what is happening' posts and I very much feel like a game of russian roulette right now.

Which is fake able watch



Help, what's going on? I haven't been in this game till today. Who should I vote?

Would you rather I feign confidence and vote someone I'm not certain on?

When Dennis gets yeeted he will blame everyone else for their bad work finding wolds and unironically will not realise he was part of the problem (Assuming of course he is town because this feels like a wolf trying to not give reads)

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:59 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:56 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:35 pm still no spoons, I'm sheeping wherever Dennis goes atm

Why me? I think I've shown I've got almost no clue what's going on still with all of my 'help what is happening' posts and I very much feel like a game of russian roulette right now.

Which is fake able watch



Help, what's going on? I haven't been in this game till today. Who should I vote?

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:35 pm still no spoons, I'm sheeping wherever Dennis goes atm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:36 pm Dangerous dennis, pick wildly, I mean, wisely.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:20 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:18 pm You can fishslap me that’s fine

oh thanks

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:34 pmHe is in there

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:25 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:21 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:18 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:14 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:59 pm Three wagons of two and they’re all on town. This day is pretty shit so far.

I see two of two unless you include the Disco.
What's making you so sure that Seanzie is town to the point of frustration?

Neon just took a ghost vote off Dennis and put it elsewhere.

Seanzie has been under fire literally every day this entire game for reasons that I thought were shit before day 3, and that I think are even more shit now that i believe he’s the doctor.

As the only person I feel I can confirm town with 100% certainty I’m determined to use my vote to keep him alive. Problematic when I’m the counterwagon.

So if Dennis, Seanzie, you are all town and this day isn't going swimmingly...
Who's scum? Why are they town?

Gonna backread in the meantime.

Well I think you are

But assuming you’re not - from most scummy tier to least

Roxy, Falcon (also the tier where I have you)

Fingersplints, scotty

Lucy, neon

And maybe the most tinfoil of tinfoil, a very outside shot it’s rondo and bea fooled me.

I’m fully excluding Kate, svs, Dennis and Sean.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:03 pm So Sean saves the player they feel is WKing them? Hmmm, that just doesn't seem like a thing a Doc would actually do...save one of their SRs

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:09 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:06 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:05 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:43 am @Neon your ghost votes keep scaring me lol. Like 'Where did that vote come from?!?' scare

I wasn't certain that Soneji was town but I was confident enough to try to stop the wagon. If I KNEW Soneji was town for any reason, I wouldn't make such a bold play like that and risk blowing my cover. It's just kinda in my nature to play stealthier like that.

I don't know how to interpret this so I've decided not to try.

My gifs always mean something.

I rarely explain them.

This is the joy of playing with Neon lol

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:05 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:43 am @Neon your ghost votes keep scaring me lol. Like 'Where did that vote come from?!?' scare

I wasn't certain that Soneji was town but I was confident enough to try to stop the wagon. If I KNEW Soneji was town for any reason, I wouldn't make such a bold play like that and risk blowing my cover. It's just kinda in my nature to play stealthier like that.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:01 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:00 am

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:56 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:54 am

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:51 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:47 am

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:46 am If we can get past tinfoil today we are in very good shape.

My PoE is down to four. My extended PoE is at seven with Neon, Scotty and Lucy. If there was certainty the three of you are town, there's no way we lose from here. I'd love to be able to feel like I could absolutely clear any of you three.

I do not believe any of SVS, Kate, Rondo (formerly bea), Dennis or Seanzie is bad. From my perspective, I already have an absolute towncore of 6/13. Every additional person matters.

Explain 'tinfoil' please. Mrs. Lockwood did NOT teach us good context clue skills apparently lol

I have to put on my tinfoil hat, then I can both believe you are bad and protect myself from the radiation that the commies are putting out from the lampposts in my street.

Uh what? Do you mean tinfoil=an idea that seems crazy (like when you said SVS before)? Sorry it's 2 in the morning here so if you could be straightforward that would be appreciated.

Exactly right.

Crazy ideas in mafia are sometimes the truth. But when they're not, having those crazy ideas can be really detrimental to seeing the truth of what is going on.

Okay that makes sense, thank you. I love the 'mentor' vibes you and Scotty have been giving off this game.

Honestly, I'd do that as wolf too.

But this time I'm not lol.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:56 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:54 am

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:51 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:47 am

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:46 am If we can get past tinfoil today we are in very good shape.

My PoE is down to four. My extended PoE is at seven with Neon, Scotty and Lucy. If there was certainty the three of you are town, there's no way we lose from here. I'd love to be able to feel like I could absolutely clear any of you three.

I do not believe any of SVS, Kate, Rondo (formerly bea), Dennis or Seanzie is bad. From my perspective, I already have an absolute towncore of 6/13. Every additional person matters.

Explain 'tinfoil' please. Mrs. Lockwood did NOT teach us good context clue skills apparently lol

I have to put on my tinfoil hat, then I can both believe you are bad and protect myself from the radiation that the commies are putting out from the lampposts in my street.

Uh what? Do you mean tinfoil=an idea that seems crazy (like when you said SVS before)? Sorry it's 2 in the morning here so if you could be straightforward that would be appreciated.

Exactly right.

Crazy ideas in mafia are sometimes the truth. But when they're not, having those crazy ideas can be really detrimental to seeing the truth of what is going on.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:51 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:47 am

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:46 am If we can get past tinfoil today we are in very good shape.

My PoE is down to four. My extended PoE is at seven with Neon, Scotty and Lucy. If there was certainty the three of you are town, there's no way we lose from here. I'd love to be able to feel like I could absolutely clear any of you three.

I do not believe any of SVS, Kate, Rondo (formerly bea), Dennis or Seanzie is bad. From my perspective, I already have an absolute towncore of 6/13. Every additional person matters.

Explain 'tinfoil' please. Mrs. Lockwood did NOT teach us good context clue skills apparently lol

I have to put on my tinfoil hat, then I can both believe you are bad and protect myself from the radiation that the commies are putting out from the lampposts in my street.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:46 am If we can get past tinfoil today we are in very good shape.

My PoE is down to four. My extended PoE is at seven with Neon, Scotty and Lucy. If there was certainty the three of you are town, there's no way we lose from here. I'd love to be able to feel like I could absolutely clear any of you three.

I do not believe any of SVS, Kate, Rondo (formerly bea), Dennis or Seanzie is bad. From my perspective, I already have an absolute towncore of 6/13. Every additional person matters.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:25 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:02 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:56 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:35 pm

Soneji wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:16 am The logical assumption is that someone includes themselves among their towncore by default so it's unnecessary and potentially performative to list themselves, because either they know they're town from their rolecard, or they know they need to fake being town from their rolecard. One doesn't normally include themselves in readslist as they cannot make a read on their own alignment which is a known factor to them, and either they know they're town or need to fake it. The need for anti-town to fake being town is what subconsciously can cause them to want to project "I AM TOWN" at every opportunity, hence listing themselves in towncores/townreads lists. It is common enough for actual townies, especially from certain site cultures, to list themselves in such things so it's not a hard wolf tell, but it can be a soft tell when alongside other performative town projection examples.

Why would Soneji defend Neon with a after she got called out for adding herself in her towncore? Especially bringing into the equation of different site cultures doesn't make any sense if Soneji is wolf and Neon is town, when it seemed like (to me) that Golden was suspicious of Neon.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:03 pm If you ask me a joke of a question, you're going to get a joke of an answer.

This is just shutting down conversations that were off topic.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:00 am The first group is rightly calling for accountability from the Wilgy voters, while the second has every reason to not want to rock the boat. Dennis is a newbie, what narrative is he going to try and control? Plus several players rushed to proclaim him townie for his EoD. Seanzie just narrowly escaped the noose, of course they'd avoid a thunder dome. SVS does look good from how they explained their vote, and how they wanted a tie.

This is analysis and I like it.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:31 am I'm still reading through parts of the thread but I want to bring forth a thought on the set-up that could certainly have an effect on wolves mindset in this game. I didn't see wolves win condition listed anywhere but assuming it's to reach vote parity, or even just killing all town, then so long as all three members are alive then they win as soon as there are only five town members left due to being able to vote silence two townies each night. At that point town can only tie elim votes, so has no path to winning. So more than normal wolves will want to ensure all members make it to endgame, and keeping the Lawyer alive is top priority as even with just one other wolf they lower the number needed for vote parity. Bussing is very unlikely, and hard defenses of packmates very likely.

I don't think a wolf would bring this up, because why explain your strategy to the entire thread?

I dunno, it's just all of their posts in general I agree with but these were a few examples. Maybe in the 3rd one I'm being convinced by them explaining I don't know what I'm doing still but other than that it's just everything. Now please answer my question.

@Neon I think this is what you wanted?

Yes thanks I'll look at it ^^

The reasoning is there but I just don't see how this leads you to alignment certainty.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:07 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:29 am Someone please explain TMI I'm begging. I checked that link someone gave me a few days back and it's not on there.

Sure.

Scenario; you are wolf. You know Soneji is town, so you preemptively state in thread that you really feel Soneji is a bad choice for lynch.

That is Too Much Information.

It’s a buzzword that can be thrown around too to describe situations like that, when in reality you could jus be a town expressing your opinion. But to a wolf, it’s not an opinion.

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:59 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:57 am

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:16 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:08 am Why am I being questioned for being against the Soneji vote and Golden isn't being questioned for being willing to kill anyone to save Seanzie?

I’m gonna give you an answer that assumes you’re town.

Because it’s easy for a wolf to know a wagon is town and feel confident they shouldn’t get on it.

Your answers today relieve my anxiety somewhat but my very first thought when soneji flipped town was ‘oh no, is it Dennis?’

Really? His answers today made me go from hitting tennis balls to hitting golf balls with my tennis racket.

I was under the impression keeping people guessing was a good thing.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:57 am

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:16 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:08 am Why am I being questioned for being against the Soneji vote and Golden isn't being questioned for being willing to kill anyone to save Seanzie?

I’m gonna give you an answer that assumes you’re town.

Because it’s easy for a wolf to know a wagon is town and feel confident they shouldn’t get on it.

Your answers today relieve my anxiety somewhat but my very first thought when soneji flipped town was ‘oh no, is it Dennis?’

Really? His answers today made me go from hitting tennis balls to hitting golf balls with my tennis racket.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:58 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:56 am

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:55 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:52 am

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:51 am I know there are a lot of things I need to go back and address but it's very late and I just can't sleep but I'm too tired for indepth thought.

How about kicking Jack out and inviting Neon to be my sister? I'm still very much up for that idea.

Can I have both?

No.

What if I keep jack and neon?

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:55 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:52 am

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:51 am I know there are a lot of things I need to go back and address but it's very late and I just can't sleep but I'm too tired for indepth thought.

How about kicking Jack out and inviting Neon to be my sister? I'm still very much up for that idea.

Can I have both?

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:35 pm

Soneji wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:16 am The logical assumption is that someone includes themselves among their towncore by default so it's unnecessary and potentially performative to list themselves, because either they know they're town from their rolecard, or they know they need to fake being town from their rolecard. One doesn't normally include themselves in readslist as they cannot make a read on their own alignment which is a known factor to them, and either they know they're town or need to fake it. The need for anti-town to fake being town is what subconsciously can cause them to want to project "I AM TOWN" at every opportunity, hence listing themselves in towncores/townreads lists. It is common enough for actual townies, especially from certain site cultures, to list themselves in such things so it's not a hard wolf tell, but it can be a soft tell when alongside other performative town projection examples.

Why would Soneji defend Neon with a after she got called out for adding herself in her towncore? Especially bringing into the equation of different site cultures doesn't make any sense if Soneji is wolf and Neon is town, when it seemed like (to me) that Golden was suspicious of Neon.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:03 pm If you ask me a joke of a question, you're going to get a joke of an answer.

This is just shutting down conversations that were off topic.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:00 am The first group is rightly calling for accountability from the Wilgy voters, while the second has every reason to not want to rock the boat. Dennis is a newbie, what narrative is he going to try and control? Plus several players rushed to proclaim him townie for his EoD. Seanzie just narrowly escaped the noose, of course they'd avoid a thunder dome. SVS does look good from how they explained their vote, and how they wanted a tie.

This is analysis and I like it.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:31 am I'm still reading through parts of the thread but I want to bring forth a thought on the set-up that could certainly have an effect on wolves mindset in this game. I didn't see wolves win condition listed anywhere but assuming it's to reach vote parity, or even just killing all town, then so long as all three members are alive then they win as soon as there are only five town members left due to being able to vote silence two townies each night. At that point town can only tie elim votes, so has no path to winning. So more than normal wolves will want to ensure all members make it to endgame, and keeping the Lawyer alive is top priority as even with just one other wolf they lower the number needed for vote parity. Bussing is very unlikely, and hard defenses of packmates very likely.

I don't think a wolf would bring this up, because why explain your strategy to the entire thread?

I dunno, it's just all of their posts in general I agree with but these were a few examples. Maybe in the 3rd one I'm being convinced by them explaining I don't know what I'm doing still but other than that it's just everything. Now please answer my question.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:51 am I know there are a lot of things I need to go back and address but it's very late and I just can't sleep but I'm too tired for indepth thought.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:35 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:29 am Someone please explain TMI I'm begging. I checked that link someone gave me a few days back and it's not on there.

Too much information

There’s also town-based sources for that in this game, though. For all I know you cop checked soneji (don’t confirm or deny that). But TMI is often seen as wolfy, because wolves can have difficulty faking lack of knowledge.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:26 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:14 pm I want the Soneji wagon to explain because I haven't seen much of anything anti town about their posts and I'm not crazy about sitting back when someone I think is civ is being elimed.

Pretty heavy handed but this viewpoint is correct. It feels crazy.

If Dennis is a wolf he continues to say all the right things that make me go…’nah, can’t be’.

Dennis is dangerous, for the opposite alignment of his own

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:12 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:59 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:48 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:40 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:06 am Dennis opening today looks bad. And Lucy hit on some things eod that were bothering me about Dennis yesterday that I was mostly ignoring.

What about it? And I still don't understand what Lucy meant with the whole 'influence' thing. I don't think I've changed anybody's minds on anything if that what you mean, so feel free to keep pushing that.

I'm not good at words so let me try my best.

Your opening feels like a wolf trying to cover themself with the over hype doc praise followed by more cover for yourself because you immediately push suspicion onto looking only on the top wagon for scum a wagon you were firmly against.

That cover protects you the deep wolf and your team because the chances we hit correct in a 7 person pool are well 1 in 7 but if we focused off wagon that pool becomes 1 in 5 and it's almost certain all wolfs didn't stack on Soneji.

Oh and your firm anti Soneji position also reeks of TMI but also makes me think the other wagons that were close when Soneji started to take off also were town. I know I'm town and I was one of them.

I can't really argue with this but I'll try my darndest. I don't think my doc praise was necessarily 'overhype' but I think it's a little wild that doc saved someone twice in a row and wanted to express that.

I immediately pushed suspicion cuz this day feels pretty important, like this is our second or last chance to get a wolf, and I want to make the most of it by saying 'hey, these 6 people like almost definitely have a wolf' and others have said that point too. Do we not have more leads on the people in Soneji wagon than out?

I need someone to give me an explanation of TMI because my context clue skills are clearly not cutting it. It means too much information, I know that, but I don't understand the context it's meant to be used in. What do you mean 'close when Soneji started to take off'? Like wagons who has 2 votes?

We are still at 10/13, and we’ve effectively had the doc give us an entire additional day phase, which is also extending the potential lifespan of cop/deputy checks. We are not in bad shape.

Now, let me explain why consensus building is good in this game imo. We have three cop/deputy checks and two doctor saves in the mix. Cop/deputy/doctor things could be replicative, marmot could also account for one, but there’s probably three or four confirms out there. Based on where we stand, I think maybe all of those confirms are town.

Consensus building enables confirmed town info to be applied as reads and lead to good decision making in the context of us not knowing who the power roles are or what they specifically know.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:16 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:08 am Why am I being questioned for being against the Soneji vote and Golden isn't being questioned for being willing to kill anyone to save Seanzie?

I’m gonna give you an answer that assumes you’re town.

Because it’s easy for a wolf to know a wagon is town and feel confident they shouldn’t get on it.

Your answers today relieve my anxiety somewhat but my very first thought when soneji flipped town was ‘oh no, is it Dennis?’

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:59 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:48 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:40 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:06 am Dennis opening today looks bad. And Lucy hit on some things eod that were bothering me about Dennis yesterday that I was mostly ignoring.

What about it? And I still don't understand what Lucy meant with the whole 'influence' thing. I don't think I've changed anybody's minds on anything if that what you mean, so feel free to keep pushing that.

I'm not good at words so let me try my best.

Your opening feels like a wolf trying to cover themself with the over hype doc praise followed by more cover for yourself because you immediately push suspicion onto looking only on the top wagon for scum a wagon you were firmly against.

That cover protects you the deep wolf and your team because the chances we hit correct in a 7 person pool are well 1 in 7 but if we focused off wagon that pool becomes 1 in 5 and it's almost certain all wolfs didn't stack on Soneji.

Oh and your firm anti Soneji position also reeks of TMI but also makes me think the other wagons that were close when Soneji started to take off also were town. I know I'm town and I was one of them.

I can't really argue with this but I'll try my darndest. I don't think my doc praise was necessarily 'overhype' but I think it's a little wild that doc saved someone twice in a row and wanted to express that.

I immediately pushed suspicion cuz this day feels pretty important, like this is our second or last chance to get a wolf, and I want to make the most of it by saying 'hey, these 6 people like almost definitely have a wolf' and others have said that point too. Do we not have more leads on the people in Soneji wagon than out?

I need someone to give me an explanation of TMI because my context clue skills are clearly not cutting it. It means too much information, I know that, but I don't understand the context it's meant to be used in. What do you mean 'close when Soneji started to take off'? Like wagons who has 2 votes?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:53 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:12 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:10 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:03 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:00 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:57 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:54 pm Allow me to explain my frustration a bit

Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.

But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.

The fixation on Jack is also ridiculous seeing as how I've said multiple times he didn't like it. @Kate , what are you doing? Help me out here.

I don't feel that neon's behavior has been wolfy. Others feel differently so I was going back to jack to try to sure up my feelings on the slot. I figured who better to try to do that than you and me?

Yeah... that's my point. You know as well as I do Jack wasn't a very willing participant. Having you, who is in practically everyone's towncore, attest that Jack's behavior wasn't influenced by his role would help prove Neon's towniness, no?

I was trying to see if you felt that his behavior would have been different WITH the added pressure of a baddie chatroom. Youre essentially reversing my point.

To be clear: I think if Jack had a baddie role, he would have tried harder because of the pressure of teammates in a chat. Therefore, I find it unlikely Jack was bad.

I appreciate that.

But I'd be remiss if I didn't say I'd rather be judged solely on myself in both cases weather you think Jack was town for his behavior as you do or scum as Sean does.

I think you just think I'm town anyways but I'm just saying it so that I don't look like I have an agenda

In my stupid brain I’ve imagined that jack has moved out of the house and you seamlessly integrated into Kate and Dennis’ family, watching movies curled up on the couch together and you and Dennis fighting over the last Oreo (or whatever it is kids fight over these days)

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:48 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:40 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:06 am Dennis opening today looks bad. And Lucy hit on some things eod that were bothering me about Dennis yesterday that I was mostly ignoring.

What about it? And I still don't understand what Lucy meant with the whole 'influence' thing. I don't think I've changed anybody's minds on anything if that what you mean, so feel free to keep pushing that.

I'm not good at words so let me try my best.

Your opening feels like a wolf trying to cover themself with the over hype doc praise followed by more cover for yourself because you immediately push suspicion onto looking only on the top wagon for scum a wagon you were firmly against.

That cover protects you the deep wolf and your team because the chances we hit correct in a 7 person pool are well 1 in 7 but if we focused off wagon that pool becomes 1 in 5 and it's almost certain all wolfs didn't stack on Soneji.

Oh and your firm anti Soneji position also reeks of TMI but also makes me think the other wagons that were close when Soneji started to take off also were town. I know I'm town and I was one of them.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:42 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:46 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:54 pm Role-claiming and info-dumping are prohibited in this game unless otherwise specified in the roles.

Doc can't roleclaim. But I do want to hear from cop today

Do you mean you think the cop should claim today?

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:06 am Dennis opening today looks bad. And Lucy hit on some things eod that were bothering me about Dennis yesterday that I was mostly ignoring.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:17 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:17 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:13 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:09 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:07 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:00 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:58 pm

Yeah

I get a feeling this is meant to be face tipsy but after another quiet night, you suggesting the cop claim now feels like ralphwiggimImInDanger.gif

Yeah I think it's a wee bit obvious I think I'm in danger. I said a couple posts before day end that I very much could've seen myself dying last night.

ok but what does that have to do with you suggesting cop claim now?

Why not tomorrow? Or the day after?

I think even tho we’ve mischopped thrice, we’re doing ok

What were you asking me? Because I saw you asking me if I thought I was in danger. Weren't you the one who said that last day we needed to get a kill?

Let’s back up.

I said “you must be nervous” in response to you posting “cop should claim”

As an indictment of faith. That statement comes off as nervous when we’ve had 2 doc saves.

So:
Why should doc claim today?

er, why should cop claim (my god I’m tired

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:09 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:07 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:00 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:58 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:56 pm Getting nervous are we?

Yeah

I get a feeling this is meant to be face tipsy but after another quiet night, you suggesting the cop claim now feels like ralphwiggimImInDanger.gif

Yeah I think it's a wee bit obvious I think I'm in danger. I said a couple posts before day end that I very much could've seen myself dying last night.

ok but what does that have to do with you suggesting cop claim now?

Why not tomorrow? Or the day after?

I think even tho we’ve mischopped thrice, we’re doing ok

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:07 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:02 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:58 pm The tandem of Dennis and falcon coming out swinging for splints’ head feels…off

I realized how weird it would look but I'm not about to let someone I think is civ just... die. Not without at least trying to step in.

Who are you talking about here?