The Syndicate

so youre waiting for pyxxy to flip town so ?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:17 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:09 pm Yes, it might have been Rondo-trust that kept me on Serhal, now that he mentions it.
its fine for you to vote serhal over pyxxy, but I do it, and its like i was caught red-handed
mischaracterisation. LC was trying to save me and I asked for Serhal and was going to switch to just end the tie but it randed instead because we run out of time

and i wasnt trying to save you? hmm, if that were the case, i would have voted you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:59 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:48 pm confused why long con stayed w/ serhal vote and tying w/ rondo instead of switching to scotty?
It was kind of a frantic time, posting on my phone from the jobsite. I can't claim I was acting optimally at the time.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:55 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:44 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:32 pm leetic/pyxxy/P.A./tutuu

are my biggest pings

porscha/scotty/long con

are next
why is Robyn on the outside looking in here?

and if Pyxxy is among your sharpest suspicions, why did you vote Serhal over them? Serhal being the definition of a shrug at best?
why would I list serhal when they already flipped town? obviously i felt serhal was wolfier then pyxxy, once i saw i was wrong, i changed my read... ?
Someone (not DM) explain to me how DM could have misunderstood my question in a way that results in them implying I asked them to list Serhal?
Perhaps they misread "vote" as "list"?
Is this the case DM?

i missed the post pre EoD were serhal was confirmed town and pyxxy the only other option who was apparently confirmed wolf

wheres the scrutinity for everyone else for not voting pyxxy

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:09 pm Yes, it might have been Rondo-trust that kept me on Serhal, now that he mentions it.

its fine for you to vote serhal over pyxxy, but I do it, and its like i was caught red-handed

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:07 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:55 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:44 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:32 pm leetic/pyxxy/P.A./tutuu

are my biggest pings

porscha/scotty/long con

are next
why is Robyn on the outside looking in here?

and if Pyxxy is among your sharpest suspicions, why did you vote Serhal over them? Serhal being the definition of a shrug at best?
why would I list serhal when they already flipped town? obviously i felt serhal was wolfier then pyxxy, once i saw i was wrong, i changed my read... ?
Someone (not DM) explain to me how DM could have misunderstood my question in a way that results in them implying I asked them to list Serhal?
for all i know, both pyxxy and serhal are town so idk what youre trying to find here... and when previous to Serhal's lynch, did i say pyxxy was one of my sharpest suspicions? what?
So you haven't felt Pyxxy was suspicious on day 1 or day 2?

You'd be alone in that. I guess I need to understand what it is that Serhal did that Pyxxy didn't do or vice versa that separated them so much that you were content with "Serhal and someone else" being the tie and not Pyxxy.

Rereading your ISO you off handedly mentioned Serhal very infrequently. One time you called them out to post and did state that if they didn't it wasn't very towny. Early on in the game they called you scummy and you said yikes. So it's not like there's an overwhelming preponderance of evidence to display you had a genuine scumread on them. At best I can see you didn't townread them.

To me you just looked like a wolf pushing the weakest easiest miselim in the game when your partner Pyxxy was on the table, viable and less of a shrug.

You said Serhal and someone else, why not Serhal and Pyxxy? Why were you content with Serhal and Rondo or anyone else? What kept Pyxxy out of your cross hairs?

Like the gap here is you have to be actually townreading Pyxxy prior to today. I want to understand what Pyxxy did to gain that read out of you. What posts they made or what your thinking was that was "I want Serhal and I don't want Pyxxy".

why are u so hung up on pyxxy? is not that deep; vote them out if you want; as far as i know, it is not a guarantee theyre wolf, so for all i know pyxxy could have been the one lynched, flipped town and this convo would be the same except why did u vote pyxxy over serhal had i not voted like i did; i dont know what you want, nothing seems enough for u

why didnt you vote pyxxy over rondo then ? @MacDougall

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:55 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:44 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:32 pm leetic/pyxxy/P.A./tutuu

are my biggest pings

porscha/scotty/long con

are next
why is Robyn on the outside looking in here?

and if Pyxxy is among your sharpest suspicions, why did you vote Serhal over them? Serhal being the definition of a shrug at best?
why would I list serhal when they already flipped town? obviously i felt serhal was wolfier then pyxxy, once i saw i was wrong, i changed my read... ?
Someone (not DM) explain to me how DM could have misunderstood my question in a way that results in them implying I asked them to list Serhal?

for all i know, both pyxxy and serhal are town so idk what youre trying to find here... and when previous to Serhal's lynch, did i say pyxxy was one of my sharpest suspicions? what?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:51 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:44 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:32 pm leetic/pyxxy/P.A./tutuu

are my biggest pings

porscha/scotty/long con

are next
why is Robyn on the outside looking in here?

and if Pyxxy is among your sharpest suspicions, why did you vote Serhal over them? Serhal being the definition of a shrug at best?
why would I list serhal when they already flipped town? obviously i felt serhal was wolfier then pyxxy, once i saw i was wrong, i changed my read... ?
I am asking once again why you chose Serhal over Pyxxy? You said you found them more suspicious than Pyxxy and I am asking why.

And why do you townread Robyn?

because all of serhal post have seemed filler to me and not really town-like... and re: robyn, they just seem like the town robyn i've seen play the past few times... im kinda used to their messy reads xD

confused why long con stayed w/ serhal vote and tying w/ rondo instead of switching to scotty?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:44 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:32 pm leetic/pyxxy/P.A./tutuu

are my biggest pings

porscha/scotty/long con

are next
why is Robyn on the outside looking in here?

and if Pyxxy is among your sharpest suspicions, why did you vote Serhal over them? Serhal being the definition of a shrug at best?

why would I list serhal when they already flipped town? obviously i felt serhal was wolfier then pyxxy, once i saw i was wrong, i changed my read... ?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:43 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:30 pm it just feels like a lot of echo-chambering in here
arriving to a consensus sounds like that and is a good thing given town have a numbers advantage and communicating our thoughts is the only way to uncover commonality and see whose thoughts aren't lining up with the towns.

griping about a town sorting through the game to find commonality and calling it echo chambering comes across like a discouraged wolf.

then thats your lack of imagination if you cant see it as tired town fed up of being misread

theres 10 players left, having you ranked 7th is basically town lean

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:33 pm You doubt my claim?

what's your claim again?

leetic/pyxxy/P.A./tutuu

are my biggest pings

porscha/scotty/long con

are next

it just feels like a lot of echo-chambering in here

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:39 pm I don't think Scotty is mafia, his reaction when he was unsilenced was very townie.

Doubtful his wagon is pure. Rondo has a green check and the other is a dead townie so... doesn't look amazing for Robyn (my top town lol).

Fuckety.

@Scotty @robyn you're kind of a difference check I think?

Scotty is one of the best wolves players ive seen here, superb at coming across town like when wolf

its going to be hard for me to so sure about scottys alignment unless confirmed by a na or something

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:38 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:36 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:27 pm I think the mafia is Leetic, DarlingMonroe and Pyxxy or something like that.
leetic. hm. i'll let that marinate
Leetic was like Serhal's only scumread and the way they popped I'm as soon as the flip happened to shit on people after doing nothing to prevent it, and after tunneling me all game for the worst reason I've ever seen.

Serhal's actual stated reason for suspecting Leetic was better than it seemed. Read it.

It was like an ittt read. Leetic is reading the game one dimensionally.

Mac is being lame therefore Mac is mafia.

Can you find a nuanced Leetic take?
serhal voted scotty though

so scotty/leetic w/w is still possible
Don't really think they were paying much attention to the game and don't think their vote on Scotty amounted to anything but a valiant attempt at self preservation right?

wouldnt them just vote rondo given to guarantee self preservation? feels like scotty was a genuine scum read alongside his leetic statement

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:37 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:32 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:29 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:22 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:08 pm my suggestion for tomorrow

chop pyxxy

if mafia -> chop dm

if town -> cry
pyxxy can be mafia and doesnt mean i am, i feel like thats a very constricted view; would a wolf partner be so direct to avoid a partner's tie? it like a reach tutuu, doesnt feel genuine
Ah yes I've never seen wolves do things to save partners and for Tutuu to suggest it possible is preposterous.
there are wolves that do that and i think its bad gameplay
you think wolves should not save partners?
i think they should but i would never do it like that
What did you do that was so egregious if you were partnered? Do you think it was too audacious and rules it out accordingly?

well there would have been a risk he would have been eliminated on the random tie and if he flipped mafia, i wouldve been linked so idt its worth as a wolf to do that

my bravery came from my ignorance that pyxxy could very well be town for all i know and didnt want him yeeted when i suspected others more

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:36 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:27 pm I think the mafia is Leetic, DarlingMonroe and Pyxxy or something like that.
leetic. hm. i'll let that marinate
Leetic was like Serhal's only scumread and the way they popped I'm as soon as the flip happened to shit on people after doing nothing to prevent it, and after tunneling me all game for the worst reason I've ever seen.

Serhal's actual stated reason for suspecting Leetic was better than it seemed. Read it.

It was like an ittt read. Leetic is reading the game one dimensionally.

Mac is being lame therefore Mac is mafia.

Can you find a nuanced Leetic take?

serhal voted scotty though

so scotty/leetic w/w is still possible

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:32 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:29 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:22 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:08 pm my suggestion for tomorrow

chop pyxxy

if mafia -> chop dm

if town -> cry
pyxxy can be mafia and doesnt mean i am, i feel like thats a very constricted view; would a wolf partner be so direct to avoid a partner's tie? it like a reach tutuu, doesnt feel genuine
Ah yes I've never seen wolves do things to save partners and for Tutuu to suggest it possible is preposterous.
there are wolves that do that and i think its bad gameplay
you think wolves should not save partners?

i think they should but i would never do it like that

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:28 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:26 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:24 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:22 pm would a wolf partner be so direct to avoid a partner's tie?
yes because their wincon is to kill town

are u arguing u are town because you would be too wolfy to be a wolf if pyxxy is wolf?
yeah, if i was wolf with pyxxy i wouldve never done what i did; i just have liked pyxxy this game, and he hasnt pinged me, so like i dont feel comfortable enough to town or scum read him yet; out of pyxxy, scotty, rondo, serhal, pyxxy is the one that gave me least wolf vibes
very well. who u think is mafia now? i feel like the number of possible suspects is quite low now after serhal flip and lc peek on rondo that we can realistically start building whole teams and not just individual scumreads

there are like perhaps see 6 potential players i can see being the mafia group of 3 (4?), still trying to pinpoint which are 3 biggest pings post serhal town flip

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:29 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:22 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:08 pm my suggestion for tomorrow

chop pyxxy

if mafia -> chop dm

if town -> cry
pyxxy can be mafia and doesnt mean i am, i feel like thats a very constricted view; would a wolf partner be so direct to avoid a partner's tie? it like a reach tutuu, doesnt feel genuine
Ah yes I've never seen wolves do things to save partners and for Tutuu to suggest it possible is preposterous.

there are wolves that do that and i think its bad gameplay

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:25 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:16 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:14 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:11 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:09 pm Serhal
3
21%
Voters: pyxxy, Long Con, DarlingMonroe

This bunch I don’t blame for going after Serhal, except for the fact that he is the LHF of this operation, and so it’s more scummy than not.

If pyxxy is indeed a town PR, ok cool. That should self resolve…
LC is a soggy, floppy chalupa.
DM is ??? And needs sorting.
would you have me voted you instead? or rondo perhaps? or not voted at all?
I think rondo is a GREAT vote.

Why WOULDN’T you vote rondo?
Long Con and Robyn, I guess

which ultimately i dont regret not voting rondo

though it does suck to lose serhal :/
This didn’t answer my question

because long con and robyn said rondo is town and serhal had been extremely inactive and the only read he provided at the end was to vote you... whats missing to click?

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:24 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:22 pm would a wolf partner be so direct to avoid a partner's tie?
yes because their wincon is to kill town

are u arguing u are town because you would be too wolfy to be a wolf if pyxxy is wolf?

yeah, if i was wolf with pyxxy i wouldve never done what i did; i just have liked pyxxy this game, and he hasnt pinged me, so like i dont feel comfortable enough to town or scum read him yet; out of pyxxy, scotty, rondo, serhal, pyxxy is the one that gave me least wolf vibes

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:22 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:57 am im gonna log off, take a break, and the come back to answer / give reads on the players you mentioned that are townreading you @MacDougall <3
Thanks for doing this btw. Appreciated.

the game isnt over yet, sir

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:22 pm even in the easy world (pyxxy dm mafia) - the third wolf isnt immediately obvious to me. so theres arguable difficulty there too

youre already off one read with having me in that pool so

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:08 pm my suggestion for tomorrow

chop pyxxy

if mafia -> chop dm

if town -> cry

pyxxy can be mafia and doesnt mean i am, i feel like thats a very constricted view; would a wolf partner be so direct to avoid a partner's tie? it like a reach tutuu, doesnt feel genuine

this tie thing plan was a dumb, for all we know trio of rondo/serhal/scotty are all town; we just guaranteed a civ death

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:14 pm You’re being weirdly defensive for a read of exactly ??? On your slot

I am not allowed to comment on your read on me? And I do, it's defensive? okay scotty

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:14 pm You’re being weirdly defensive for a read of exactly ??? On your slot

because i actively tried to campaign for you so you wouldnt have any votes at all because it seemed unfair given the situation, and your response just made me feel some type of way

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:14 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:11 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:09 pm Serhal
3
21%
Voters: pyxxy, Long Con, DarlingMonroe

This bunch I don’t blame for going after Serhal, except for the fact that he is the LHF of this operation, and so it’s more scummy than not.

If pyxxy is indeed a town PR, ok cool. That should self resolve…
LC is a soggy, floppy chalupa.
DM is ??? And needs sorting.
would you have me voted you instead? or rondo perhaps? or not voted at all?
I think rondo is a GREAT vote.

Why WOULDN’T you vote rondo?

Long Con and Robyn, I guess

which ultimately i dont regret not voting rondo

though it does suck to lose serhal :/

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:11 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:09 pm Serhal
3
21%
Voters: pyxxy, Long Con, DarlingMonroe

This bunch I don’t blame for going after Serhal, except for the fact that he is the LHF of this operation, and so it’s more scummy than not.

If pyxxy is indeed a town PR, ok cool. That should self resolve…
LC is a soggy, floppy chalupa.
DM is ??? And needs sorting.
would you have me voted you instead? or rondo perhaps? or not voted at all?

would you have rather*

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:09 pm Serhal
3
21%
Voters: pyxxy, Long Con, DarlingMonroe

This bunch I don’t blame for going after Serhal, except for the fact that he is the LHF of this operation, and so it’s more scummy than not.

If pyxxy is indeed a town PR, ok cool. That should self resolve…
LC is a soggy, floppy chalupa.
DM is ??? And needs sorting.

would you have me voted you instead? or rondo perhaps? or not voted at all?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:04 pm Scotty
3
21%
Voters: robyn, Serhal, RondoDimBuckle

You can all die

well we know 1 one of them was town

wait so what was the final vote? 3 v 3 v 3? was the kill randomized?

Serhal is the only one not voting....

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:13 pm This unusual poll end time is about to lose the game for us.

you can always switch and make it a tie, if you wish

3 v 3

instead of the current

3 v 2 v 2 v 2

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:08 pm Rondo not being in the tie is the top priority.

Better to have no tie at all.

okay well my vote is not on rondo, so i did my part

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:06 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:05 pm I can live with a serhal/rondo tie
Are you insane

the holidays bubble up the insanity inside of all of us

I can live with a serhal/rondo tie

pyxxy, agreed; switched from Scotty to Serhal

also can we relax and take a deep a breathe? the votes are tied rn, isnt that the plan

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:25 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:24 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:22 am Your comfort level seems to be deliberately screwing with this Rondo plan.
pyxxy & scotty tie is what you are suggesting? when scotty cant even post or vote? and pyxxy bc... ?
It's probably too late for you to be scrapping the plan for a new version.

im not planning on supporting a plan where a town civ is going to be elim

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:24 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:23 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:22 am Your comfort level seems to be deliberately screwing with this Rondo plan.
In what way?
We need a tie, there's dubious thread presence ALREADY from players who can help, and you're chasing butterflies.

Serhal & someone else is perhaps where I would be at

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:22 am Your comfort level seems to be deliberately screwing with this Rondo plan.

pyxxy & scotty tie is what you are suggesting? when scotty cant even post or vote? and pyxxy bc... ?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:22 am Your comfort level seems to be deliberately screwing with this Rondo plan.

In what way?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:20 am Pyxxy, of course.

is there any damning evidence or more of a vibe?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:17 am If none of @Porscha @MacDougall or @leetic come back to move their vote to pyxxy from Rondo, then that's the Wolf team, never rescind.

what did i miss, whats with the pyxxy wolf read? theyve been so nice this time around and havent really pinged me; wouldn't feel comfortable voting in that direction unless there's a strong case

yeah, I decided I cannot vote Scotty today, it doesnt feel right given the circumstances; I'll be switching my vote before EoD for sure, just not sure to who yet.

i'd feel really shitty if the day scotty cant vote, he then gets lynched and flips town

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