The Syndicate

Appreciate you hosting JJJ. I enjoyed this despite trying to murder everyone but the guilty.

[VOTE: potentialsheltervet] aubergine

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 8:57 pm I voted zenon

Gosh, was I mere seconds away from that hammer vote? Damn.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 8:56 pm ew i'm getting cold feet

Love it.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 8:56 pm Off of the fence I'll break the tire see where we go

vote PSV

Don't forget your actual vote in the poll and to tag your vote in the thread.

Speak of the devil.

We are less than ten minutes out from lock and lacking a Roxy vote.

My last post was a bit jumbled but I hope you get my meaning.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 8:46 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 8:43 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 8:42 pm There's not a lot of PSV content to go off of but what I saw had a couple minor town pings. Her immediately townreading Roxy for frustration looks good in hindsight since I feel like a wolf would keep what is probably t!Roxy in the PoE. I also like that she asked me to read Zenon and pushed Rico over Zenon after I gave a townlean.
you like a lot of things which is nice but you should consider that you could be getting pocketed or that just b/c someone gives in and provides a tr after a sr does not make them townier
I think a lot of people have been towny this game so it's hard to me to find a solve. It's not a general tell, it's that in this specific case I think it's a little more likely to come from a town to immediately TR Roxy for the frustration and not falter when Roxy was under a lot of pressure and scum might keep their options open.

I don't agree. It isn't that hard- especially Day 1 or 2- for a mafia member to say something conciliatory and move on. If you ask me, it's easier than pushing the person further because, well, you just look like a meanie, it potentially gets someone on your side, and it isn't like you can't reverse course later on.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 8:44 pm
Oh. Well, I am not mafia, nor am I paired with Porscha. This would mean my strategy D1 was to bus my partner

Worked out for me once.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 8:41 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 8:40 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 8:38 pm tbf I think either way for psv it would have been suicidal to continue pushing me today since their argument against me was no longer plausible after I posted at start of day
Good thing whatever it is PSV tried to do instead is working out well.
is this sarcasm b/c i'm still voting them anyway?

Sarcasm, yes, but more in line with, "Things aren't going so hot for PSV anyway."

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 8:38 pm tbf I think either way for psv it would have been suicidal to continue pushing me today since their argument against me was no longer plausible after I posted at start of day

Good thing whatever it is PSV tried to do instead is working out well.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 8:25 pm Idk if I'll make it to vote close (the drama!) So this is the time to ask me burning questions or make bold accusations.

My move here against Porscha comes under the perspective that you and Porscha are the two mafia members.

Day 1 it looked like you were doing your damnedest to get people to notice you were voting Porscha when Porscha was nowhere near close to dying.

Day 2? Crickets about Porscha. Instead:

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 3:57 pm Hmm let's see
[VOTE: ricochet ] aubergine

I don't know why this post exists.

So there's my bold accusation.

Currently, your vote is on Ricochet, when it could be on Porscha or Zenon with the same two-vote count.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 2:44 am psv's push on me is just a pocket attempt on thunal who keeps randomly and loudly proclaiming that i'm polarized but supposedly unable to see how i'm towny at all so thunal is probably town

As an aside, people have got to give me some kudos for not bringing the adverb tell into this.

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

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potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:03 pm I think Porscha is scummy.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:04 pm [VOTE: Porscha ] aubergine

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 5:04 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:06 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:03 pm I think Porscha is scummy.
Explain. Porscha's had a fair amount of posts but I've had a hard time getting a good read on her so far, so I'd like other opinions.
I read her iso and found it uninspiring, go with the flow, not offering fresh takes but more crowdsourcing and looking to stay in harmony with threadstate. Looks fishy.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:31 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:25 pm PVS has been trying to play a snipe from the side lines and be around but push nothing kind of game I want to stop that
I'm pushing Porscha. What say you to that?

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 8:56 pm Ope jk I thought close was at 9. Okay then.
I don't think Lemonfairy is a hit but I don't have super valid reasons to object to it. I have zero motivation to move off of Porscha.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 3:51 pm I think I also town lean Ricochet.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 10:48 pm I can't say I'm familiar with Ricochet but their posts don't read overly wolfy to me. At one point I peeked in and they were the leading wagon with three votes and no one else had any. Curious how that formed and why it dissipated?

I'm pushing Porscha. What say you to that?

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 5:38 pm Like I'm almost certain game is easy

PSV
Falcon
Epi
Zenon

Poe game win

I don't know why this post exists.

Good night, Ricochet.

I've cooled on Roxy.

I don't think fingersplints is mafia.

falcon, maybe, but if you haven't the time, you haven't the time. Posts there look organic rather than "I've got to say something." Not a vote for me today.

I don't like Rico daring me to take the bait in voting him, and maybe that's his out today, but I'm not taking it.

Thunal is playing the best mafia member I've seen in a while if that is indeed the case. Very strategic if bad. Also not a vote for me today.

That leaves me with Porscha, potentialsheltervet, and Zenon.

I'm calling on JaggedJimmyJay to invent a world that has one time zone.

I do not mean to be disrespectful to Ricochet. I apologize. I understand you may be trying to figure me out. At the same time, when one gets bogged down into responding to so many things, one can't spend that time doing what was requested in the first place, namely looking over the other participants. Which is what I am trying to do while my supper finishes.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 6:22 pm Why are you not voting me, your one of two options to sit on and be proven?

Because I'm not an impulsive teenager, I have another two and a half hours to make up my mind, and this isn't about being "proven." I'll take my time and enjoy myself.

Hell, just realized there's a free parking vote spot.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

Rico, I'm not going to debate how I've changed in two years, how many players there are, or how inaccurate I was in a post (after 33 hours of work this weekend) when the conclusion I arrived at made sense to me.

But if you need to talk yourself into voting for me, by all means.

Okay, I'm on the current page now. I'll have some things to say after supper.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 5:33 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 5:29 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 5:26 pm @Epignosis where is your mind at? Would love to hear your thoughts
With dinner, a sick Eloh, and two pages back. Also working. I'll be with you all when I can.
Give Eloh my love. I miss her in games

She has emerged from the bed as though your sentiment has resurrected her! And I will tell her.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 2:46 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 10:59 pm falcon is a good lynch in a vacuum, but I don't think he's mafia.
Then he is not a good elim. Why make this statement? It is contradictory. If you do not think he is mafia then why even consider an elim?

It is posts like this that I am finding "flippant".

Hence, "in a vacuum."

I'm referring to the notion of "Argh, so-and-so is not contributing, so let's get'em!" Without much context to go on, yeah, that makes sense if you've got nothing better to go on. I know falcon is busy (like me) and therefore probably not avoiding the thread for evil reasons. Not flippant at all.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 1:03 pm He stated only two main suspects

I only need two suspects. If one is proven wrong, I can find another.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 11:36 am I think I gave Epi too much of a pass for sounding towny and working with me. His content today has been uninspiring, specifically his Roxy read amounting to that Roxy is still mafia and not reconsidering or finding new reasons.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:58 pm
If these two are bad, I think they kill me, not Rondo, since I'm going to tug at the Roxy bone all during Day 2.

So I'm not going to do that.

@Roxy Happy Sunday. Take Day 2 to do your thing. My vote is on you for now, but I'll look elsewhere.

See my comment to Rico- I don't care about being inspiring anymore. I care about being right the right number of times.

I have not had a chance to reconsider anything new since last I was here and won't until a bit later. You are aware of my time of activity in the thread, and I'm not even comfortable being here right now, but I don't want to get so far behind before lock.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 10:50 am I'm wrong on someone. I don't have any confident scumreads and I don't think it's as easy as "kill the low posters". I think Falcon's catchup looks reasonably good - it's an original take on the thread and i think it makes sense from the POV that he's town and reads Roxy town.

Just one?

Damn.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 12:48 am Rather deflated at Epig's few new posts and effort. Took an objective read into Roxy's AtE, but didn't outright read her as wolf for that approach, just "doesn't see a civilian".
Then reads into splints, with two possibilities, and concludes on neither.
Then seems to ease off Roxy (or intend to).
Then states what he thinks a vaccum elim of falcon would look like.
Dropped me off, at least during this interval.

I don't understand why people keep thinking I'm going to come in here with more "effort" than I've shown in the last, what, two years? I hardly play anymore. I've been okay participating when there is low(er) effort. Gone are the days of me reading 40 pages a day and keeping up with every little detail. I'm not that guy anymore.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 12:48 amSo that's just 3 out of 8 players he looked into or has some read on.

And you will notice they are all people I know or have some history with. Call it a generational chasm if you would like.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 12:48 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:58 pm fingersplints asserting that Roxy is good (and that I am too) can mean two things:

1. fingersplints and Roxy are the mafia and the former wants to talk me off of the latter.
2. fingersplints is that damn comfortable calling Roxy a civilian over being mentioned twice.

And number one still has the "calling Roxy a civilian over being mentioned twice" bit, which is a bold strategy.

If number one is the case, that's damn funny coming from someone who is by many reports "scared of certain people in the thread."

If these two are bad, I think they kill me, not Rondo, since I'm going to tug at the Roxy bone all during Day 2.

So I'm not going to do that.

@Roxy Happy Sunday. Take Day 2 to do your thing. My vote is on you for now, but I'll look elsewhere.
First bold part is not accurate, splints called Roxy town over having an outburst.

Second bold part is also not accurate of splints, if we are to judge by her response to said reports.

I was not accurate two times.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 5:26 pm @Epignosis where is your mind at? Would love to hear your thoughts

With dinner, a sick Eloh, and two pages back. Also working. I'll be with you all when I can.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 5:15 pm [VOTE: Epi] aubergine

Good morning, Thunal.

Good night Thunal.

falcon is a good lynch in a vacuum, but I don't think he's mafia.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:04 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:58 pm fingersplints asserting that Roxy is good (and that I am too) can mean two things:

1. fingersplints and Roxy are the mafia and the former wants to talk me off of the latter.
2. fingersplints is that damn comfortable calling Roxy a civilian over being mentioned twice.

And number one still has the "calling Roxy a civilian over being mentioned twice" bit, which is a bold strategy.

If number one is the case, that's damn funny coming from someone who is by many reports "scared of certain people in the thread."

If these two are bad, I think they kill me, not Rondo, since I'm going to tug at the Roxy bone all during Day 2.

So I'm not going to do that.

@Roxy Happy Sunday. Take Day 2 to do your thing. My vote is on you for now, but I'll look elsewhere.
I don't see a Splints/Roxy team since I don't think Splints expects to convince anyone that Roxy is town with her reasoning.

If splints doesn't expect to do that, then why does she bother?

fingersplints asserting that Roxy is good (and that I am too) can mean two things:

1. fingersplints and Roxy are the mafia and the former wants to talk me off of the latter.
2. fingersplints is that damn comfortable calling Roxy a civilian over being mentioned twice.

And number one still has the "calling Roxy a civilian over being mentioned twice" bit, which is a bold strategy.

If number one is the case, that's damn funny coming from someone who is by many reports "scared of certain people in the thread."

If these two are bad, I think they kill me, not Rondo, since I'm going to tug at the Roxy bone all during Day 2.

So I'm not going to do that.

@Roxy Happy Sunday. Take Day 2 to do your thing. My vote is on you for now, but I'll look elsewhere.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 1:11 pm His issue is with her entrance to the game? Yes? I disagree that it’s not townie

She posted videos which is standard Rox. And @ me
We are friends so also not weird, but I don’t think a wolf Rox would @ me in her second post. We know each other well. She already has my attention. Why draw it to her further if she is a wolf? Makes no sense

That's a very low bar to clear if you ask me.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:32 am [VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:32 am [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:33 am [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:33 am [VOTE: psv] aubergine

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:34 am [VOTE: rico] aubergine

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:35 am [VOTE: roxy] aubergine

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:35 am [VOTE: thunal] aubergine

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:36 am [VOTE: zenon] aubergine

fingersplints trying a little Roncocide action.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:51 am In all seriousness Rox isn’t mafia. Her vs epi is likely t/t
She wouldn’t be reacting like this if she was mafia
This is well within Epi’s scum range, but his continued push feels genuine

*known

Roxy wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 7:24 am
Players acting like they know me or my style. Saying I'm slank which sounds awful like moist.

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 1:42 pm I try to change my game style with each game I play whether town or bad.

Which is it? Do you have a style anybody can know or pretend to know, or do you really switch it up every time?

Roxy wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 7:24 am
Epi is still mad bc last time he was bad I came him out on it not that anyone listened to me.

This is a game on the Internet and no money is involved. I don't get mad. I'm not twelve.

No one is asking you to defend anything. I made a very thin accusation against you Day 1, you called me flippant, voted me, and that's the extent of your contributions so far.

Regardless of your "style," I don't see a civilian here. That would be true if you were Emerson, Lake OR Palmer.

As for me, I've know you...

Zenon wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 2:11 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 10:54 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 12:21 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 9:55 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 9:55 pm I am eating the n1 kill for sure Epi
Do not be so sure.
Literally neither of you are dying

Pretty sure the only reason you killed rondo was to troll me for that post huh?

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 1:43 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 10:43 pm There's a risk-reward aspect to Rondo's going after everyone. You stir things up early on but your bread crumbs are rotten croutons.

I remember Rondo's posts enough that going through them won't yield anything of substance.

Who is scared of the loud loose cannon? I know I am.
Err.

Can't manipulate that. I want people around I can manipulate when I'm mafia.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 1:43 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 10:56 pm I still think Roxy is mafia.

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine
Would like more a substantiative read on why "still" Roxy.

I don't have one. I have my perspective from Day 1 that hasn't changed. What would make you think I have a more profound assessment given that Roxy had not posted since I said that?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 11:50 pm I'm going to bed soon, good night.

Same. Good night as well.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 11:44 pm My issue with Porscha is that there's nothing I can point to from her and say it's towny, and from what I know about Porscha's town game there usually would be.

All I know about Proscha is that I'll never afford one.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 11:41 pm Town:
Epi
Zenon

Townlean:
Ricochet
PSV

PoE:
Porscha
Splints
Falcon
Roxy

Why do you lean toward a good Rico?

Got about 20 minutes here if anybody needs me to talk. I need to sleep after that.

I still think Roxy is mafia.

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 10:20 pm - I have had some back and forth with
@Thunal33
@Zenon

- One of these max? is a wolf
@fingersplints
@Lemonfairy
@potentialsheltervet

- I didnt like the entrance of
@Roxy

PS I think is my next vote seeing as they feel frozen to me.

So we have Roxy + PS + Thunal/Zenon

gg

Quoting this to get us moving.

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