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Oh wow Lorab thank you so much for the thorough explanation of the poll options. My initial feeling after reading it is to not vote any role that is represented in the game as you are going to do. Also, witch rehab

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:48 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:25 pm Ambray and speed I appreciate your explanations for why you didn't vote. I'd like to know from everyone who didn't vote the reasons why they didn't. Love the biscuits!
Day ended too fast.

Thanks Mac.

Ambray and speed I appreciate your explanations for why you didn't vote. I'd like to know from everyone who didn't vote the reasons why they didn't. Love the biscuits!

Buffy watchers I need your help on the night poll. I don't know what any of these choices mean. I'll google the options to get an idea but that may not give me the full flavor of the selection. Angelus seems popular so far - can anyone tell me why?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:05 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:46 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:23 pm The game is about to start so I'm going to go ahead and vote though I may change it later. Per my earlier post I am looking at DFaraday, JackofHearts and Dr. Wilgy. DF has been participating so I'm going to rule him out for that. Dr. Wilgy has only posted one completely off topic post but I guess he's been known to do that according to Kyle (I guess I just haven't noticed) so that leaves Jack who hasn't posted at all. I'm going to go ahead and vote for Jack but does anyone know anything about why he's not here? Like is he on vacation or anything? Maybe my vote will pressure him to participate. I'll try to keep up with reading posts during the game but I don't expect to post.
If Jimmy were here, would he call this player salad?
I don't know what that means...
Player Salad is a thing Jay says when players talk about or mention a bunch of players they might vote for or suspect all at once, I think the idea is that doing it allows a mafia voting flexibility later on.

Ok thanks. My post was a follow-on post to one I made earlier where I talked about voting for someone who didn't vote in the night poll. I was explaining how I narrowed down to Jack. I'm not thrilled with a vote for Jack but I can't see a better vote at the moment.

Lots of linki

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:46 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:23 pm The game is about to start so I'm going to go ahead and vote though I may change it later. Per my earlier post I am looking at DFaraday, JackofHearts and Dr. Wilgy. DF has been participating so I'm going to rule him out for that. Dr. Wilgy has only posted one completely off topic post but I guess he's been known to do that according to Kyle (I guess I just haven't noticed) so that leaves Jack who hasn't posted at all. I'm going to go ahead and vote for Jack but does anyone know anything about why he's not here? Like is he on vacation or anything? Maybe my vote will pressure him to participate. I'll try to keep up with reading posts during the game but I don't expect to post.
If Jimmy were here, would he call this player salad?

I don't know what that means...

timmer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:24 pm Off like to know about loop as well. I don't know them and I can handle someone not posting yet but it's different I'd thru haven't posted but they did vote. That's weird. Which option did they vote for?

House of Wax

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:40 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:23 pm The game is about to start so I'm going to go ahead and vote though I may change it later. Per my earlier post I am looking at DFaraday, JackofHearts and Dr. Wilgy. DF has been participating so I'm going to rule him out for that. Dr. Wilgy has only posted one completely off topic post but I guess he's been known to do that according to Kyle (I guess I just haven't noticed) so that leaves Jack who hasn't posted at all. I'm going to go ahead and vote for Jack but does anyone know anything about why he's not here? Like is he on vacation or anything? Maybe my vote will pressure him to participate. I'll try to keep up with reading posts during the game but I don't expect to post.
Juliets have you never played with Dr Wilgy before? I thought his wildboy tendencies were well known

I also didn't realize Wilgy's sodium nitrate post was his only post.

I have played with Dr. Wilgy before but it's been a long time since I played a true mafia game with him (not Chicka Chicka) and I just can't speak to how he posts from personal experience. I'd have to go back and look. (Wilgy, if you can tell me a game where you were good and one where you were bad I will look at your posts at the beginning of those games.) I just think the potassium nitrate (or was it sodium nitrate?) post being his only post doesn't say a lot about him being civ. I still haven't decided where my final vote will go.

The game is about to start so I'm going to go ahead and vote though I may change it later. Per my earlier post I am looking at DFaraday, JackofHearts and Dr. Wilgy. DF has been participating so I'm going to rule him out for that. Dr. Wilgy has only posted one completely off topic post but I guess he's been known to do that according to Kyle (I guess I just haven't noticed) so that leaves Jack who hasn't posted at all. I'm going to go ahead and vote for Jack but does anyone know anything about why he's not here? Like is he on vacation or anything? Maybe my vote will pressure him to participate. I'll try to keep up with reading posts during the game but I don't expect to post.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:35 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:26 pm @Long Con and @Black Rock are you guys going to turn the list of names into links to people's posts? It's really helpful. Also, are you going to have a polls thread?
Yes, we will be turning the names into a list at some point, and there are Polls in the first post, in a spoiler tag.

Oh thanks! I would have never found those polls lol!

[mention]Long Con[/mention] and [mention]Black Rock[/mention] are you guys going to turn the list of names into links to people's posts? It's really helpful. Also, are you going to have a polls thread?

Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:36 pm The lynch poll ends at 5am my time. As for my vote, i'm considering players that didn't vote in the night poll:

DFaraday
DrWilgy
Illyria
Jackofhearts2005

Or rabbit

I'm slowly ruling people out for one reason or another for a vote and may consider voting along the lines Trans set up here. If the Day 0 poll really was alignment indicative then these people were able to avoid going on record. That said I won't vote for rabbit or Illyria because they are both back from a long absence and I want to give them a chance to play. I'm still looking for other options though so I'm keeping my mind open. Game starts in less than 2 hours.

Linki: thanks Lorab I understand what you were saying now.

Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:44 pm Does that happen alot these days? I think i've only seen it once in the last Recruitment game.

I wouldn't say a lot but I have definitely seen it since the last recruitment game. More than once I'm sure. Maybe I will get a chance to look through some of the recent games. It's done enough that I knew what he was talking about. My only question was where he got the idea that those movies represented locations.

Ambray wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:24 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:22 pm sig thinks the poll options will keep returning until all of them have been voted out. I don't know why he thinks that, but i guess we'll find out if he's right about that soon enough.
As in he thinks that whichever one had the most votes would be removed from the next poll until 1 is left and that's the winner?

Odd thought.

Has that happened before? I can't remember ever playing a game where it did and if he hasn't either it's a strange assumption to make.

Yes it has happened before. The host posts locations and the game goes to the number one voted location and then that location gets removed from the poll.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:14 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:08 pm the idea that sig might have been signalling is worrisome... we should be looking out for signals and things. If the mafia finds spike then they gain a member, and also two spare kills..

sigs explanation made me feel better but I think we should still watch him close for changes in gameplay in the future.
That's what I was saying in my first post.

I need to reread what other players said about the day 0 poll, I gave some civ points to Lorab for it and then I believe juliets and Tranq also started doing research. I think it's possible one is mafia trying to be helpful.

I'm also eyeing Rabbit and to a lesser extent Mac. Mac's response to my vote was very mute and he hasn't posted much yet which seems to go agaisnt his meta and rabbit role hunting me for my comments on Spike is troublesome.

If push comes to shove and we don't have any good info I could see lynching an inactive, I'd like to avoid this but, with so many indies the chance of getting a non civ is about 55/45.

sig, could you explain why you see rabbit's thought that you could be spike signaling troublesome? I can understand you might not like it but I think it was a valid theory at the time it was raised.

Lapluie, could you tell me some games you have played on this site other than the one that is now in progress?

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:10 am
sig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:55 pm
rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:35 pm I'm just curious as to why Spike was chosen to be analyzed, is Sig indy signaling....

I don't really trust Indy's in general, but top priority is mafia/Glory. If we end up lynching an indy it wouldn't be good, but I'd say it wasn't bad either.
But that doesn't answer the question. nor is that precisely what you said--you singled out Spike, you weren't just talking about all of the indies. Here's the post:

sig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:42 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:01 am Looking at the poll (thanks google):

Full Metal Jacket, Xander references the movie (Life taker, heartbreaker) when greeting Riley when he returns to Sunnydale. Also, a Vampire says to Spike who is attacking him, "What's your malfuncion, man" which is also a reference.
House of Wax: Plotline of the original could connect to various buffy story lines, but can't find anything in particular that stands out. And none of it looks remotely good.
New Jack City: There's a "I never liked you anyway" connection, but that's a pretty common line, I think. Spike says it to Buffy.
Wayne's World: Both have a "Noah's Arcade"--it's where the Trio brings a kidnapped Willow and Buffy confronts them. Also, Wayne's World ends with a whole Scooby Doo thing, and the Scooby Gang is, well, the Scooby Gang.

That was not so helpful. Although almost fun. I'm sure I'm missing obvious things. Or, Rock Con are just messing with us with random movie titles. I feel like I'm missing references, though.

linkitis:
kyle: You don't have to watch it all at on
LA: Google coupled with a buffy knowledge. But yes, mostly google.
Lorab gets some early civ points for this post.

What does everyone think about the Independents? I'd say Glory is a top priority to kill for all players, followed by the mafia, and maybe Spike. I do think its possible Spike has the type of role where he can also become a civ, it could be something along the lines of he searches for Buffy every night and if he finds her they get BTSC and he becomes a civ, which would be nice. However, we've got no way of knowing if that's the case so I think it would be safer to lynch him.

Thoughts?
I'm also concerned with the focus on Spike. But rather than read it as being Spike, I read it as being mafia and knowing that they have a chance at Spike joining them. "Also become a civ" implies that there's another option....And the spelling out of what the role could be, if you thought Spike could become a civ role--but maybe not so we should lynch them. And why Spike and not the Mayor (who also has secrets)?

Not explaining what you actually meant when called out on singling out Spike doesn't help.

Also, why did you vote Mac?

Lorab, just to clarify, are you saying you see a chance sig could be bad and was trying to get us to want to kill Spike or are you saying something else? It seems like if he is mafia he would want Spike alive. I agree that his not explaining what he actually mean when asked doesn't look good, I'm just a little unclear about the first part. I have the same question re: why a vote for Mac.

On another subject I will be in and out today and then tonight I will be watching the super bowl. I will try to keep up with reading posts during the game but probably won't post. I plan on being around for EOD though.

That should be linki not links. Also I changed my vote to Waynes World.

There was a Cassandra in Waynes World and in Buffy but I don't see anything about either character that would connect to the other. I think Lorab's analysis regarding the Scooby connection is the strongest connection we have found. I can't find any connection to New Jack City or House of Wax. I find it hard to believe there would be nothing though.

Also, Tranq's analysis that each choice in the poll lines up with a faction has been used by Rock Con in past games (nobody who played Recruitment will forget that!) so I tend to buy that explanation. So is Waynes World the civ choice because of the Scooby connection? I think it's possible.

Oh wow lots of links - looks like others have decided it is indeed Waynes World.

I found a connection between Buffy and Full Metal jacket but I don't know what it means. It seems in a 2001 Buffy show All the Way one of the Buffy characters said "What is your malfunction, man?". Unfortunately I don't remember that line from FMJ and don't know the context of it in Buffy. Maybe someone else understands the reference. Still looking for connections to the other movies.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:53 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:19 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:14 pm I think we should pick the worst locations first, so we can get them out of the way.
You think these locations will continue to appear in other polls?
Yes

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:34 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:14 pm I think we should pick the worst locations first, so we can get them out of the way.
Ok, I've read back through every post and don't see anything about "locations" - the poll appears to be movies. Are you saying those movies represent locations? If so, how do you know which one is the worst? And how did you make that connection? (Admittedly, I sometimes miss things that are obvious.)

I'm assuming we'll be either visiting the movies/locations in them or the option we pick will have an impact on the game. This is an assumption though it could just be a meaningless fluff poll, but I doubt it.

Ok thanks, having played Rock-Con games before I, like you, doubt it is a meaningless poll. I don't think I've ever seen them do a meaningless poll.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:14 pm I think we should pick the worst locations first, so we can get them out of the way.

Ok, I've read back through every post and don't see anything about "locations" - the poll appears to be movies. Are you saying those movies represent locations? If so, how do you know which one is the worst? And how did you make that connection? (Admittedly, I sometimes miss things that are obvious.)

Happy birthday lapluie!

I'm also curious about the google thing and why it is suspicious. S~V~S thats a good idea about cast crossover - hope you will report back what you find.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:21 am these are all titles of movies, it doesn't seem like they're related to buffy at all as far as I can tell.

Full Metal Jacket is the only one I've seen so I guess I'll vote there.

Hmm [mention]Black Rock[/mention] [mention]Long Con[/mention] are the voters in the poll supposed to be invisible? And hi everyone, so happy to be playing again.

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