The Syndicate

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:36 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:23 pm But @Ricochet, where are you going?

and can we come with you?

can I bring a friend?

departing?

Thanks Rico for your recap of what went right and what went wrong. Thank you for being such a good host, your polls were awesome, your EOD was at a reasonable hour, and you were always on time with the posts.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:58 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:55 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:54 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:53 pm Mafia WHY DID YOU KILL ME NIGHT 2? I was no threat to anyone. I was very sad.

It was my idea. Sorry juliets.

You are always a threat to all

Awww dang you Golden but thats ok I guess.

You got my role in retrocausality as compensation

Oh true!

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:54 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:53 pm Mafia WHY DID YOU KILL ME NIGHT 2? I was no threat to anyone. I was very sad.

It was my idea. Sorry juliets.

You are always a threat to all

Awww dang you Golden but thats ok I guess.

Mafia WHY DID YOU KILL ME NIGHT 2? I was no threat to anyone. I was very sad.

I really wanted to play this game.

Yes I get your gist Scotty and you're right Imo I see TH and Vomps in the same category.

EBWOP: think not thing

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:28 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:27 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:54 pm Yeah I used to think Dom was Ramses but I was obviously wrong. So I’m probably wrong all around hunting for him.

My current scum/Ramses list is:
-Colin
-nijuu
-juliets

Nijuu is probably flying under the radar. I remember when i was bad with her in (rocky and bullwinkle?? Maybe?) a lot of her posts were fluffy excuses for her busy-ness. Granted, she IS always busy, but I found it superfluous when she was bad.

Her input to this point is 17 posts, which isn’t all encompassing suspicious, but I can’t say in my ISO that she has said anything substantial. Very much lurking

@Scotty , what is it that you see in me that makes you think I am a scum/Ramses?

I don’t have a solid reason. You’re last on my list of 3 and I might retract for now anyway because I can’t qualify it

Ok. thanks for answering.

I just read through TH and I can't find anything in his posts that I consider a contribution to the game (sorry TH). Can I ask why he is not on your list? Do you see something in him that I missed? I noticed speed had him in the bottom as well. Really I should address this to everyone who hasn't already said what they thing about TH.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:54 pm Yeah I used to think Dom was Ramses but I was obviously wrong. So I’m probably wrong all around hunting for him.

My current scum/Ramses list is:
-Colin
-nijuu
-juliets

Nijuu is probably flying under the radar. I remember when i was bad with her in (rocky and bullwinkle?? Maybe?) a lot of her posts were fluffy excuses for her busy-ness. Granted, she IS always busy, but I found it superfluous when she was bad.

Her input to this point is 17 posts, which isn’t all encompassing suspicious, but I can’t say in my ISO that she has said anything substantial. Very much lurking

[mention]Scotty[/mention] , what is it that you see in me that makes you think I am a scum/Ramses?

Here is the poll from yesterday for [mention]speedchuck[/mention]. Blue means they voted for that person but changed off of them before the final tally.

INH - sig
MM - TH
nutella - colin, fractal, Luna, TH, niju, Golden, kyle
LC - Luna, sig, speed, juliets, nutella, scotty, INH, Golden
lap - speed, nutella
speed - Vompatti
host?? - lap

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:51 pm
juliets
-Another pursuer of the nutella wagon. Got a bad gut feel about her D2 posts. Seemed real hesitant about everything, her reads that I requesitioned were big paragraps of shrugs and walk-backs...
Just juliets? Or scum in an uncomfy situation?
She had her vote on LC at one point but IDK if it stayed there because you dillweeds won't rehost the poll for me.

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] , I answered your post about Scotty and Vomps. With Scotty I gave him a civ read. What is it about that that seems hesitant? What is it that was a shrug? What is it that was a walk-back? For Vomps I said it was hard to tell anything with him but gave him a GTH slight scum lean. Has anyone else given any kind of read on him other than "beats me"? Granted that might have seemed hesitant but who hasn't been hesitant about him? Also, how many people answered your request for reads on these two and how many just shrugged it off since they were hard reads to give?

My vote for LC was right after yours and I did not change my vote the whole time even though I questioned some of the logic we were using to vote for him. Did you think the logic was totally sound? Plus, he wasn't around to reply to us which made me uncomfortable from a mafia ethics point of view. Even Luna changed her vote because he wasn't replying.

I don't know how to download and repost the poll or I would do it.

[mention]nutella[/mention] so you are fine giving me more scrutiny - I welcome it. Read my ISO and tell me what you think.

[mention]Ricochet[/mention] could you put in the link to Marmot's posts? The address is http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... sf=msgonly

Also Rico thanks for doing the polls like you are in vote order.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:35 pm OOOOKAY so just looking at the vote break down I'd say Frac and Blooper look the best since they stuck with nutella both days, Speed switched from Nutella day 1 to LC day 2. The oddest vote for Nutella would be Luna who built the case on LC, but then didn't vote there? I also dislike Kyle's vote that ended up tieing it before Golden broke it. That combined with refusing to break the tie yesterday is meh. Now I do need to reread and see their reasoning, but from what I remember the case on nutella was the same day 2 as it was day 1.

sig, could you further explain why you see Fractal and blooper as good for sticking with nutella both days? I'm looking at the nutella voters thinking there had to be some mafia voting there (unless nutella is bad too but I'm not seeing it that way right now) and Fractal and blooper are in that group. I just need a little help understanding your rationale.

I'll be at work today and then rehab util about 3:30 or 4:00. I have a little time this morning if anyone gets on here.

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:58 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:57 pm

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:53 pmdid I die

Hi lap - why didn't you vote?

hi, just got online had no time to read everything, missed deadline sorry

Ok. Thanks for answering.

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:53 pmdid I die

Hi lap - why didn't you vote?

Yay great lynch guys! Nice job Luna!

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:56 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:55 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:50 pm Juliets your clothes don't match that fence. Do you suspect LC or not

I'm just spitting out my thoughts as I do research. Do you have any thoughts about what I've found? Are you voting LC to save yourself or because you have reason to vote him? If you have reasons, what are they?

Both. And I've said why like three times

I've read your ISO, you have not said 3 times. You said mostly because he's not contributing though you liked Luna's reasons too. My problem is I've looked at two games one where he was bad, one where he was good and he contributed both times. And if we want to look at people who are not contributing how do I differentiate him from Vomps? This is just basic analysis. I'm not moving my vote though because I consider my doubts to be within reason, i.e., normal for a day 2 vote.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:50 pm Juliets your clothes don't match that fence. Do you suspect LC or not

I'm just spitting out my thoughts as I do research. Do you have any thoughts about what I've found? Are you voting LC to save yourself or because you have reason to vote him? If you have reasons, what are they?

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:30 pm EBWOP: heebie-jeebies

Ok I'll take a look at Ass Class.

Well in Ass Class he is talkative Day 1 and most importantly offering opinions about people so his behavior here is inconsistent with mafia LC from U-Pick and civ LC from Ass Class. My major issue with him is he shows no hunting in this game so far which he has in past games. The problem is that may be NAI for him.

EBWOP: heebie-jeebies

Ok I'll take a look at Ass Class.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:23 pm I sort of want to switch my vote back to Long Con, but I'd feel bad lynching him while he's not here to defend himself. Should I do it anyways, or naw?

I kind of have the newbie-jeebies about this as well - I really don't like to do it unless I am pretty sure. I'm taking another look at nutella and lap but continuing to research LC.

[mention]Kylemii[/mention] reviewing early LC in U-Pick he was more active that I remembered - he was also hunting - or pretending to since he was bad. Now can anyone remember a recent game where he was civ? I'd like to take a look at that too.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:36 pm I had a read of Juliets's 10 most recent posts that gave me a powerful gut scumread. I tried to go back and quantify/qualify it, and completely lost the gut feeling.
This means that either:
A. Juliets is a witch.
B. The smoothie I was drinking acted up on me.

Probably not going to happen today, but if anyone is caught up and looking for something to do, I'd love thoughts on D2 Juliets.

So speed, I wish you could provide more detail, if something comes to you no matter how small it is that could account for the gut read I hope you'll bring it up. Also, though I am not a witch, my mother swears she is a "water witch" which is a person who can find water underground using just their senses and a stick. Yes, this is a true story. I don't seem to have inherited the ability.

linki: Oh Golden, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope he gets better soon.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:28 pm actively as a civ and/or passively as mafia

Kyle, I don't remember him being really active at the beginning of U-Pick where he was bad. Maybe I should go back and take a look.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:57 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:20 pmI hesitated with Kyle because I was too eager to give him town cred in UP and it was not good. He feels like he’s just dipping his toes in.

thats just who i am as a person. like ddl said I'm a trash man that crawls out of the trash can as the game moves forward

haha yes but in the last game you crawled out of the can as mafia and if I hadn't had a peak at c-bob and TH you probably would have won because none of us suspected you! You are dangerous (but I love you anyway).

Well, I don't really like to vote for someone who hasn't yet answered queries but I'm afraid I might get tied up and forget to vote so I'm going to vote Long Con for now. We'll see if that sticks after he replies.

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] oh geez, Vomps. I don't get anything out of reading through Vomps. I know he has always played like this but that doesn't help me at all - I don't have any sense of his meta, scum or town. His vote for sig intrigued me because I see sig as town but he couldn't provide a reason so that didn't help me analyze. I am completely at a loss with his recent speed vote - I don't know what he means by you are overenthusiastic. I don't see anything that causes me to lean civ and since I read you as town at the moment I have to GTH read him as light scum. What TH said about him being smarter than all of us rings in my ears so I would really like to hear his rationale for his votes.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:30 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:29 pm I also most likely not be around for end game my uncle broke his ribs bowling, he someone slipped fell into the gutter and then broke two ribs in the front and one in the back, sooooooooooo I gotta do some yard work for them around EOD I think.

*cringing*

Tell him that online anonymous people wish him well

Oh ouch sig, ditto what speed said.

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] Ok Scotty. I lean civ on Scotty. He went after Colin pretty hard which shows me he is scum hunting (I saw the logic in his Colin argument I just didn't agree that it was all that duplicitous). His vote for lap (which he moved off of to go for Colin) I see as NAI as he has voted for no shows (or maybe low posters) in the last few games I've seen him in on Day 1. There's one thing I haven't seen yet that I associate with his town games but I'm comfortable giving that some time to materialize.

lots o linki

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:09 pm Scotty, Long Con, Lapluie, and Vompatti.

I have little reason not to lynch any of these. Weigh in. I feel like half the game is here, and half of those players are playing.

I've weighed in on LC and lap. Give me a few minutes to read Scotty and Vomps and I'll weigh in.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:35 pm I could get behind a lap lynch buuuuuut she’s also a perennially easy target. Her behavior isn’t aggressive so it’s not aggressively-town so it’s easier to conjure up that hey, maybe she’s hiding something.

I read through her ISO and agree with the people who dislike her second post. The rest of her posts don't contribute much - if anything - to scum hunting. I don't know her as well as Colin but what I do know of her I would almost call her shy so her lack of aggressiveness fits what I think of as her personality. I saw someone - nutella I think? - say she was more confident in Easter but evidently she had an info role there so easier to be confident. Nevertheless, [mention]lapluie[/mention] I would like to know why you haven't done any scum hunting yet? It's day 2 and I haven't seen you poke or prod or do anything I would consider hunting.

[mention]Lunalee[/mention] I might vote Long Con but I would like to see him respond to my post and your post before I decide.

I'm off to rehab, will continue reading ISO's this afternoon.

[mention]Long Con[/mention] reading through your ISO I don't see any scum hunting yet. Is there a reason for that?

Thanks for you answer about your speed vote [mention]nutella[/mention].

[mention]sig[/mention] I didn't see a reason for your INH vote, can you enlighten me? I saw it came after INH posted a song which I didn't listen to because it is 20 minutes long. Did your vote have something to do with the song he posted?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:56 am

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:52 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:50 am I like nutella going after this Ramsey thing. But then, scum could do that too.
I dislike her magic bagging at EOD1, and her D1 callouts.

Light scumread there still.

speed what is "magic bagging"?

Is that not a term here? Oohh! It's education time!

Magic Bagging:

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:13 pm Kanyway I'm busy at work and really can't keep up with the thread through EOD so don't lynch me k I have a good and helpful town role sorry I don't have time to hunt more rn

Verb: The act of taking your supposed town role and using it as leverage without saying what it is.
"You don't want to kill me, I've got something really cool and awesome inside this magic bag. I can't show you what it is, but you wouldn't want to waste it!"

Generally seen as a scumtell, at least in closed setups. In open setups it might be more necessary, but is still a substitute for actual hunting and towny behavior, and is more focused on moving the lynch anywhere (like to Dom, RIP) instead of somewhere specific.

Oh wow thanks speed I see people do that all the time. I had no idea it was regarded as a scum tel.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:08 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:08 pm I agree with DDL on the lap votes and I'm gonna [VOTE: dom] aubergine for now since there's at least somewhat of a case on him. I would vote for speed if anyone wanted to join me but it seems unlikely.

If you've already answered this sorry, but why Speed? He's a town lean for me.

nutella, when reading through your ISO I also wondered why speed. I don't see a post where you answered sig's question but maybe I missed it. If so would you direct me to it and if not, would you answer please?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:50 am I like nutella going after this Ramsey thing. But then, scum could do that too.
I dislike her magic bagging at EOD1, and her D1 callouts.

Light scumread there still.

speed what is "magic bagging"?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:49 am

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:02 am TH you are insistent about Marmot as you've voted him again today. What is your thinking behind this vote?

Oh it's just a placeholder. Voting for Marmot is one of my favorite things to do.

I'm actually pretty lost so far Jules. Any ideas?

Unfortunately no. I need to ISO some people and see if I see anything from that view. I was thinking maybe there was something I had missed about Marmot but evidently not.

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention] ^ ^

TH you are insistent about Marmot as you've voted him again today. What is your thinking behind this vote?

Ok thanks Ricoputer thats really cool that we have that info.

[mention]Ricochet[/mention] on the polls, what does the dark pink mean and what does the light pink mean? For example, DDL shows up as light pink on Dom and in dark pink on nutella. Thanks in advance for your help.

Hi Golden - I saw the computer monitor had yours and Nova's name but duh I was too dumb to understand what it meant. But Welcome!

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:29 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:38 pm

Nowhere Newsman wrote: *BING bong* what's up nerds it's the news

here are some players I would like to be looked into today:

nutella
juliets
colin
lunalee

these three players are players i trust a little bit right now:

speed
dragon
fractal

that's it for now. see you next phase.

Well ddl doesn't matter
Agree on Fractal
Speed is a meh town

Luna I can't read so I'll say light town for shits and giggles
Nutella
Juliets
Colin.

sig, what are your reasons for the double eye for me?

RIP DDL, I hate to lose you so soon. I'll read through you again tomorrow.

linki

Note the title of Night 1 has musical notes by it. A reference to the music videos? If so they must have some significance, like what DDL is saying.

So DDL, first you say my vote was lazy. It was not. I did not have any good suspects and when that happens I vote for someone who is not participating. Maybe you've forgotten but we had several low participators in GOC who were bad and nova himself was a low participator in U-Pick and was bad. Thus, I voted for a low participator, one who has shown this behavior before when bad.

Then you say civ Juliets is not lazy. The problem with this statement is not that it's false, it is in fact true. The problem is I haven't been lazy in this game.

Not much seems to be happening which I would expect during a night phase. RIP Dom, I hate that you were Eustace. I don't get what those names are for so I guess I'll take a harder look and see if I can get it.