The Syndicate

So if Anchorete comes in she'll tie the vote. Yikes!

Chin up, Euro (hugs)

At the end of the day its only a game, after all!

Thanks for that, MP. I'll let the mods decide how to handle what has happened... but I do hope the civs will get some secret prizes.

this has turned into a bizarre day I don't think I've seen one go weird so fast before. but I'm willing to roll with it. and lyel is obviously a baddie as well lol so subtle.

votes fane.

ok fane then.

I'm worried abouy the lyel rezz as well. we'll see where his allegiance lays in this lynch.

but we have to agree since the baddies are openly aligning in the thread and apparently the hosts don't mind. its now a free for all. since fane survived last yime id rather lynch euro or anchorete just in case fane can't be lynched until his team are all dead or something.

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:I'd also like to hear some more from dierdre.

And anchorete mentioned the possibility of a recruit. Grutfud, what do think of that possibility?

we need to lynch anchorete and fane and euro. we do that, and survive the nights, we win. that's where we're at. there could be a third wicked still alive as well but I'm hoping not...

Grutfud Orangesprite wrote:

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:Grutfud, are we lynching euro or fane?

We have to try for a wicked for the numbers.

then we need to lynch anchorete.

Anchorete, I just clued in to what you were saying. But what you're alluding to doesn't make you civ.

Voting Fane.

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:Dierdre, what's your take on anchorete and Izett?

I'm confident that Anchorete is bad.

If Grut says Fane is bad, then I'm confident that Fane is bad as well. My only question to Grutfud is... are you sure?

Izett I have no read on at the moment, but I'm overdue for a readback.

If I can be blunt, I believe that between Fane and Anchorete, one of them is on the baddie team and the other is on the indy SK team. If anyone has any inkling as to which of them is more likely to be one of the free thinkers, I'd say we should lynch them first. i feel like they have done more killing, but correct me if I'm wrong, there.

Shand Azureye wrote:
My top suspect today is Anchorete, mainly because of the back-and-forth with Miyuki when it was clearly in the best interest of the town to not talk. We already had a lynch target, and looking back at the discussion in cold blood, I still see no reason for urgency. [trimmed]

Considering the above, I personally think Anchorete is a bigger threat to the town, but I'm up for voting Fane if everyone thinks he is the better option.

I'm also supportive of an Anchorete lynch, I strongly believe he is bad as well. I believe this lynch should be Fane and Anchorete as top vote-getter and second-most vote getter. Whichever order is fine with me.

Miyuki, do you have a preference over who gets lynched today?

Grutfud Orangesprite wrote:I'm reading dierdre as civ. also miyuki. I'm stuck on my I pad right now but my opinion is that fane should go first. Ill elaborate more soon.

Whoa. Massive linki

Sorry I've been largely absent, life etc...

I'll be brief because friends are coming over in 10 minutes, but I trust Grutfuld and Miyuki, i strongly believe them to be civs. If Grutfud says we should lynch Fane, I'm good to go on that.

Carmen

works for me as well.

LOL, and I see I'm likely the last one to vote, AND SVS even voted for Carmen? That's awesome!

Grutfud Orangesprite wrote:
Maybe its a *secret.*

DUN dun dunnnn...



votes Carmen

No sense in waiting.

The only thing about Laine is that Maonchin vouched for him. Could he have been voicing a vibe as fact? I like your logic about his vote that time but its hard to go against a confirmed civs posts

I've heard back, and I can only say what I said. Suffice to say that I felt that warning was needed, and felt typing it was worth the risk.

I posted what I did for a reason. I'm just waiting for a reply from the hostesses before elaborating.

Keeping brief: let's not use any descriptive words at all to describe a certain someone's "typing predicament". A nasty type may use such a crutch to their advantage out of desperation. That is all.

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:Since Bronwyn was the affiliation checker, and she never backed off her suspicion of Carmen, I'm going to say its a fairly safe bet that Carmen is not a townie. After the post goes up, if it becomes clear that the day won't be ended right away, it may be a good idea for 1 or 2 people to place a vote on Carmen in addition to a mojority on Queran.

Dallon Redwarlock wrote:
No....a Queran lynch now looks favourable. Does the majority agree?

Absolutely. If a lie detector dies pointing a finger at someone, you lynch the person being pointed at. It's a no brainer.

Hmm, good point.

The problem is, even if, let's say, she is some kind of unlynchable indy role. And obv the baddies know she's some kind of power role since she's not on their team and maybe she's been surviving without their help, she may survive for a long time. Basically, the baddies would know they could probably NK her whenever they wanted, but she presents the game with chaos, so why kill her, right? Really, from what it seems, as long as a civ is the #2 vote getter in a Carmen lynch, it's a wonderful set up for the baddies, if she's an indy.

the point is, if we can't seem to lynch her, we may have to move on or just make DAMN sure that whoever is the second-most vote-getter is a strong suspect for being a baddie.

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:Shand, I'm all for it. Hopefully everyone will agree.

I'm toying with the idea that Carmen could have an unlynchable role, maybe one that deflects to someone. Day 4 is a mystery though. In order for Carmen to be able to deflect the lynch on that day, Rumples team would have had to put 7 votes on her in order for her to have killed Mainchin. I'm going to do a word search for day 4, but I don't know if I'll come up with anything. I think I'm just playing with theories right now.

This is what I was going to bring up. I feel like the hosts would have put considerable checks and balances on Rump's power (obviously not allowing the magic word to be "the" etc.) so I have a hard time believing that every mislynch has been due to him. So what if Carmen has an unlynchable role? The free thinkers definitely could have something like that as their secrets, for instance. There is also the possibility that Carmen has a power like that of the indy in MOTU, where every second night she can deflect a lynch off of her. Have we ever tried lynching her on back to back nights?

omg I've just figured something out. its a guess but I think I'm right. more tonight once I get home.

I apologize for not being around much today, I've had a busy week until today. I've had Carmen on my list since forever, so I'm fine with voting her way.

votes Carmen

Voting Finnian. No point in waiting.

Bac Wunderelin wrote: And I personally think of two nights/no days as a civvie thing, not a baddie thing. I understand the survival/benefit concept, but this would seriously hurt the baddie team by taking away all night powers, especially Rumps word. I think it would be TOO harmful to the baddies for the hosts to use it in this context. I don't see it being a baddie thing, I see it being a civvie thing. Maybe they tried to kill the wrong person the prior night or something like that. I HAVE seen that done before, and it is a powerful thing, a civvie role that TRIES to draw NKs in order to produce this very effect.

Two days/no night is a help to the civs, which is why I suspect it was triggered by something that happened to a bad role. It's a balancing thing. Here, you baddie, you get to protect yourself from death, but the flipside is you lose a night.

People's posts today are going to be very illuminating if we lynch Finnian and he's a baddie.

To be clear, I'm basing my opinion of you on your content-less posts, not my hunch as to your identity. But when the game is over, I can't wait to see if I'm right

Okay, I just back through Finnian's posts and it's pretty clear to me why people voted him, lol. He's coasted through the game in an aloof, whatever kind of way (I wonder if I could guess this player's identity lol?) and even in the last day, only really halfheartedly suggested some suspicions in repsonse to other's posts. At no point has Finnian actually proactively made a case against anyone. And even his "I'm about to die good luck civs" post reeks of BS.

If Carmen is bad, and Finnian is good, he's made it easy for the baddies to deflect onto him. But I don't think he's good. If anything, I'd say this is a baddie vs an SK indy or something along those lines. I'm happy to lynch either one today. What I wonder about also is, if Finnian is a baddie, let's say The Nixie, and the secret is that he was going to survive the first attempt on his life but in return, there would be no night phase when it happened, it might explain why suddenly yesterday there were people talking about low posters. Baddie teammates would have been preparing for the next day, knowing that that day they would not be able to hide behind Rumple.

the point being, if we lynch Finnian and he's the Nixie, I'll be strongly eyeing every single person who suddenly had "new ideas" yesterday as his teammates. In fact, I'd say that puts him aaead of Carmen on my personal lynch list for today.

As to Finnian, I admit to having little to no clue about the specifics of the case against him. I still haven't fully read back, andI don't yet know why people thought he was being saved, but it certainly seems that he dodged death somehow.

And finally, I've read back enough to see my name being thrown out as a possible baddie. I've ben busy and have posted when I can and remained as current as I could. If people want to investigate me I can only say go for it, you'll see I'm a civ. But to point a finger at me, when you should be able to see that I've been trying to stay current and suggest possible baddies as much as possible, is just weak. It reeks of deflection, tbh. I mean please, go ahead and make a case and I'll defend against it, but just saying I've been quiet is lame since, you know, some of us have time-intensive jobs.

Oh, and I see Mainchin's Gnome is up as well. Hmm, his role doesn't sound like one that could have checked Laine, in an alignment sense, so he must have had some other reason for trusting him. Either way, a civ says trust, I trust, but it's still a bit odd.

Now that I finally have a bit of free time, I'll elaborate on some things I've been unable to elaborate on. the last few days my work schedule has been atrocious so my posts have had to be brief and to the point. First, my vote for Jorhan. The logic on it was too good not to vote him. Vote orders, and lynch momentum swings are typically better able to cough up baddies then day 1 hunches, which is what my Laine case was. I was on break and jumped on it, it seemed very plausible and likely to hit a baddie.

Next, Carmen. Her role hint seems pretty blatant, which I'm not fond of tbh. But whatever. If the hint was true, then she either had a lynch deflection and it went to Bac, or Bac is lying about his end, and Carmen had a lynch save at the least. Bac lying at that point seems odd to me so I assume he told the truth (though that doesn't make him civ). So lots of prizes have apparently gone out in the game, so Carmen could I suppose have been awarded a lynch deflection. It's hard for me to know because I haven't personally won any major prize in the game, so I don't really know whether something as awesome as a lynch deflection has been awards or not. My gut tells me that this is NOT what happened.

My gut tells me that Carmen dodged that lynch for a different reason. We've now got three bad roles with secrets. Odds are one of them at LEAST has or had a way to dodge death the first time. So I still believe Carmen to be bad.

However, since of those three roles that could have dodged death potentially, two are not part of the baddie team, so that means that if Carmen is bad, Finnian could be anything, really. Carmen may have teammates helping her by trying to lynch him, or she may not, which means he could be bad.

I see we now know why we had two deaths on night 2...

RIP Mainchin! that sucks I see that you vouched for Laine way back, so I'll trust him as of now.

No night powers is awesome, this levels the playing field for once.

Queran Gloomsoul wrote:viewtopic.php?f=2&t=148&p=19909#p19909
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=148&p=20142#p20142

interesting... either its a legit hint or the baddies know that role is dead somehow. but that role doesn't have a lynch switch. lynch results trump role hint imo.

votes carmen.

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Queran Gloomsoul wrote:Deidre -

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=148&p=19909#p19909
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=148&p=20142#p20142


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are you able to put that in an actual link by any chance? I'm on my phone in a room full of people

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could someone direct me to where the rolehinting is supposed to have happened?

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Or is Finnian the one who role hinted? I honestly have like 30 seconds here, so the role hint thing is going to have to remain a mystery to me until my next break.

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I've only got a second while on break, but typically as soon as the game moves to focus on a baddie, the baddie team finds a bunch of other names to throw around, to complicate matters. I feel like the sheer number of names being thrown around today means that one of the original popular suspicions was likely right. That would be Carmen, imo.

I don't have time to read back much, but if someone can explain where Carmen role hinted, or which role it was it would be appreciated.

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I think there is a lot of distraction going on.

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Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:Finnian will likely get my vote.

He was here all day.

Morning: viewtopic.php?p=20269#p20269

Afternoon: viewtopic.php?p=20294#p20294

Evening: viewtopic.php?p=20317#p20317

and STILL was useless.

Biology stuff? Biology is easy. Things live. Will you?

This post is win. 3

I don't have a ton of time but I'll say that I do not trust C at all. I dknt want to say her name as its a strong contender for the rumpy word of the day. her posts today haven't been convincing.

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Shand Azureye wrote:

This was done in a bit of a hurry, please let me know if there are any mistakes.

I'm pretty sure I voted for Jorhan on Day 2.

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Laine Crystalsteam wrote:I will also post when I have ideas.

Sorry, but I was already considering voting for you today, and this just sealed it. Your play hasn't seemed civvie since Day 1.

vote Laine

I won't be around tomorrow and won't be changing my mind about you.

Did I miss where something explained why Bac is writing in some other language? Looking at the roles, i could see Bluebeard's key potentially doing it, or The Nixie's secret could have something to do with it. Was it explained?

Hmm, so two deaths. Either the big bad wold found riding hood, or the "free thinkers" killed someone.

I'll be looking at Laine today. I stand by my Day 1 hunch.

As for the last lynch, the vote order was a good lead, it's too bad it led us astray.