The Syndicate

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:34 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:25 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:07 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:58 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:46 amRegardless though, LC seems somewhat suspicious based on the Grogu vote
It would be pretty legit if one of my detractors actually explained how my Grogu vote was suspicious.
Well you did vote on grogu who is a more or less consensus town slot that made PR claims/moves on D2 wrt Alison & Falcon.
Sure, if you say so, I know of this through rumours. Don't see how that makes me Enclave.

I think their ISO suggests being more likely town than not, and your quote of them seems a bit opprtunisitc.
Sure, big opportunity there on someone who's mech towncleared. Are you sure you're doing real analysis and not just taking the easy road?

I'm still tumbling it around in my head about your slot and others. It feels odd to come at a definitive answer about it right now and I feel like I have to a bit more world-building or independent re-reading of others to make a more solid conclusion of it.
LOL two strong sentences. Well-deisgned.
1. Well, "Enclave" are the last scum unless you got problems with the slaver or are the slaver.

2. Honestly I'm not going to debate "real analysis" here as sometimes what counts as "analysis" is incredibly subjective, especially for those with completely no information on others.

There's no debate to be had. Either I'm fighting a townclear or I'm taking an opportunity. Fighting a townclear is not an opportunity, it's a battle.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:32 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:28 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:28 am Martin led the charge because of the mac/epi stuff
So. What?
The Vault City are basically potential and likely allies for Enclave. Heck, if they have a communications Officer they could've had a day-phase's contact with Mac and told him about the Enclave team if they either checked randomly or role-copped + checked with officer.

Enclave doesn't have a whole lot of incentive to go after that unless its unknown who the VC are, where they might stumble upon that accidentally.

Either case, I did catch a wolf of sorts.

I put the deciding vote on him.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:28 am Martin led the charge because of the mac/epi stuff

So. What?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:26 am Also why are you assuming Sloon was an enclave kill again

Is this to me?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:23 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:21 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:06 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:02 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:58 am I am sheeping you no matter what this day phase tbh.
Frustrating because the general consensus seems to be that you're Eldridge or Slaver, and I don't need either of those dead... hard not to vote someone acting this scummy.
Martin is lock town. Sheeping him is afaict the optimal move.
Well, let's hope I get green-checked, then you'll believe my suspicions are infallible. I don't recognize this Alison.
If you get green checked and flip a mafia I'll sheep you any day

I play according to what's optimal not what fuels my ego. I tried my hand at finding mafia, and it didn't work. So I'm going to follow the guy who buried Mac six feet deep.

I already flipped an Enclave, so I guess I'm partway there. LOL and I voted Mac, as if that qualifies anyone for being anything in this game.

How are you claiming to give credit out for the Mac death?

*designed

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:07 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:58 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:46 amRegardless though, LC seems somewhat suspicious based on the Grogu vote
It would be pretty legit if one of my detractors actually explained how my Grogu vote was suspicious.
Well you did vote on grogu who is a more or less consensus town slot that made PR claims/moves on D2 wrt Alison & Falcon.

Sure, if you say so, I know of this through rumours. Don't see how that makes me Enclave.

I think their ISO suggests being more likely town than not, and your quote of them seems a bit opprtunisitc.

Sure, big opportunity there on someone who's mech towncleared. Are you sure you're doing real analysis and not just taking the easy road?

I'm still tumbling it around in my head about your slot and others. It feels odd to come at a definitive answer about it right now and I feel like I have to a bit more world-building or independent re-reading of others to make a more solid conclusion of it.

LOL two strong sentences. Well-deisgned.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:06 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:02 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:58 am I am sheeping you no matter what this day phase tbh.
Frustrating because the general consensus seems to be that you're Eldridge or Slaver, and I don't need either of those dead... hard not to vote someone acting this scummy.
Martin is lock town. Sheeping him is afaict the optimal move.

Well, let's hope I get green-checked, then you'll believe my suspicions are infallible.

I don't recognize this Alison.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:58 am I am sheeping you no matter what this day phase tbh.

Frustrating because the general consensus seems to be that you're Eldridge or Slaver, and I don't need either of those dead... hard not to vote someone acting this scummy.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:46 amRegardless though, LC seems somewhat suspicious based on the Grogu vote

It would be pretty legit if one of my detractors actually explained how my Grogu vote was suspicious.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:34 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:34 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:19 amGrogu called someone taking a wolfy poof
Someone was taking a wolfy poof?
Can you relate to that?

I cannot.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:19 amGrogu called someone taking a wolfy poof

Someone was taking a wolfy poof?

raisins

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:50 pm Also Epi was my second guess and my first was Mac so

Guess for what?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:39 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:28 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:25 pm i mean he's claiming vt
Given the flips so far VT is statistically less likely, even though we know it's the biggest faction
Alison’s slaver just for this

What does that make Epignosis?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:31 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:28 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:25 pm i mean he's claiming vt
Given the flips so far VT is statistically less likely, even though we know it's the biggest faction
Actually, it might be worth asking any VT's to claim their name.

Marcus.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:28 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:25 pm i mean he's claiming vt
Given the flips so far VT is statistically less likely, even though we know it's the biggest faction

You'd think.

Maybe I could at least be allowed to know why my suspicion of Grogu was so incriminating? Ep?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:27 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:26 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:22 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:58 pm actually we will probably just yeet LC no matter what here soo
How is this suddenly a thing out of nowhere?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:07 pm If you mean Epi then yes, I am pretty sure I know what his role is. It's why I'm following his vote.
Huh. I don't know if you're wrong or just evil. There's no reason for any bluey-greeny type to vote for me, except Hubologists. Those guys are the worst.
Did you claim your role and I didn't see or what?

I'm just pressing buttons. I am fairly sure Epi is town so I'm sheeping him. I'll probably sheep Martin more when he gets here.
You guys are willing to just slap-vote me because the all-powerful Epignosis deigned to notice me enough to flick a booger of a vote at me?

That's unforgivably lazy for a player of your caliber. At least pretend to wait for him to make a case or something.
I made a case the other day, does that count?

Probably not.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:27 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:26 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:22 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:58 pm actually we will probably just yeet LC no matter what here soo
How is this suddenly a thing out of nowhere?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:07 pm If you mean Epi then yes, I am pretty sure I know what his role is. It's why I'm following his vote.
Huh. I don't know if you're wrong or just evil. There's no reason for any bluey-greeny type to vote for me, except Hubologists. Those guys are the worst.
Did you claim your role and I didn't see or what?

I'm just pressing buttons. I am fairly sure Epi is town so I'm sheeping him. I'll probably sheep Martin more when he gets here.
You guys are willing to just slap-vote me because the all-powerful Epignosis deigned to notice me enough to flick a booger of a vote at me?

That's unforgivably lazy for a player of your caliber. At least pretend to wait for him to make a case or something.
Seeing how people respond to pressure is telling. Not even you yourself responding to pressure - if you're scum maybe your partners panic and try to start a counter wagon, or some such.

I'm not obligated to lock my vote in on you until EOD. Why should I be a miser with it?

No, you're right, I'm overreacting. There's a long day ahead. Sorry.

Yeah, I've claimed a few things here and there. Mostly bullshit.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:22 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:58 pm actually we will probably just yeet LC no matter what here soo
How is this suddenly a thing out of nowhere?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:07 pm If you mean Epi then yes, I am pretty sure I know what his role is. It's why I'm following his vote.
Huh. I don't know if you're wrong or just evil. There's no reason for any bluey-greeny type to vote for me, except Hubologists. Those guys are the worst.
Did you claim your role and I didn't see or what?

I'm just pressing buttons. I am fairly sure Epi is town so I'm sheeping him. I'll probably sheep Martin more when he gets here.

You guys are willing to just slap-vote me because the all-powerful Epignosis deigned to notice me enough to flick a booger of a vote at me?

That's unforgivably lazy for a player of your caliber. At least pretend to wait for him to make a case or something.

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:58 pm actually we will probably just yeet LC no matter what here soo

How is this suddenly a thing out of nowhere?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:07 pm If you mean Epi then yes, I am pretty sure I know what his role is. It's why I'm following his vote.

Huh. I don't know if you're wrong or just evil. There's no reason for any bluey-greeny type to vote for me, except Hubologists. Those guys are the worst.

ok [VOTE: mac] aubergine juicy

[VOTE: Daisy] aubergine what happens in a tie?

How have you been broken?

Grogu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:47 am Long con who are you really going to vote? Wasting a vote on me is pretty bad. Can you explain your motive here

Why don't you explain why it's a waste? I already asked once.

I don't even care about the Slaver to be honest.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:16 pm by this point in the game

I don't exactly target one player.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:12 pmboo
You.

Tony.

To.

Goo.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:58 pm That doesn't explain shit but thanks anyways epi

I understood. He wants to let Chop do his Luke trick to identify the Slaver. Don't you want that?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:46 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:45 pm Why would anyone consider spacedaisy town omg
Yeah those reads are baffling

I just looked at her ISO and I think she's towny. I liked how she handled the message. What do you find suspicious? Baffling reads? Let me have another look.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:30 pm *Quotes from Mac and Epi ISO's*
Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:58 am Kyle appears to be obvious mafia.

Made is clearly mafia.

Epi is probably just mafia.

Dom is probably town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:58 am Epi/Sloonei is t/w 150,000 percent

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:30 pm I still think Sloonei is likely just a hit which means Epi is probs town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:57 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:03 pm [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine
you're just outed mafia at this point, there's no world in which you can have me as made or esooa's teammate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:57 pm Jack
Rej
Epi
Sloonei
TSP

Fire torpedoes into this pile of humanity

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:30 pm TSP, LC, Jack, Kyle or something?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:34 am
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:53 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:50 am
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:34 am I still don't understand why there were 0 enclave voters on the chop wagon yesterday if chop is enclave.

Unless the entire enclave team decided to just vote Mac and hope nobody reads the vote count.
Made, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Alison, TonyStarkPrime, KZA
DaughterOfOmega

So you know that TSP, Nanook and KZA are not enclave how?

Also Made was voting there.

Or is it that you meant to say made wagon in which case

MartinGG99, Long Con, Kylemii, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall, Sloonei, Marmot
Dom

So you know LC, Kyle, Jack, Mac, Marmot and Dom are not enclave how?

None of what you just said makes sense wot.
KZA is flipped town.

Nanook red checked a flipped enclave.

If ChopChop is enclave then TSP is not enclave because they've been fighting way too harshly to be buddies.
Look this is all kinda reasonable I guess

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:36 am so that means TSP is mafia

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:38 am TSP is seriously very mafia in this game though.

Spoiler: show

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:29 pm [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:46 pm [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:37 pm [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:03 pm [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:02 am [VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

What bothers me a fair bit is why Epi + Mac are voting the same guy (TSP) but kinda hate each other at the same time

like how does that happen

I think Mac's vote was made after Epi, and Epi hasn't come back since his vote. But Mac recently called Epi "outed mafia"

I could see how it can happen... maybe Epi thinks Joseph is bussing TSP, or vice-versa.

Grogu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:26 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:25 pm So Urist cleared Grogu, is that right?
Idk. I cleared myself

Can you go over that again in a quick post? For my multigaming mind.

So Urist cleared Grogu, is that right?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:02 pm @Long Con

What's your read on Marmot

Town I think.

I'll vote Don any time you say.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:49 pm Well, I didn't pay much attention to that particular point from LC, and then you pointed out that you think a wolf never says this, which forced me to think about it, and I actually disagree! I think a wolf would say that lol.

Especially an LC kind of wolf.

Not this time though.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:33 pm oh ninjaed. is that all?

Yeah. I went back to see why I did those votes, and scrolled up to see that post from Grogu.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:33 pm LC, you're voting for grogu. Talk to me about that

Poll voted a minute before posting.

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:51 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:29 pm Kill me if you want, though I'd advise you spend time on trying to find mafia since way more greens have died, though I don't feel liek trying so if killing me is what you come to lose, it gets me out of feeling obligated to show up
This is always town. Last night it was clear we had scum between chop and rej. We made the wromg choice and should kill chop today. Why is no one voting them?

Grogu looks pretty bad here.

[VOTE: grogu] aubergine

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:22 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:57 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:34 am
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:11 am Can someone suggest a wagon which isn't Mac, Chop or TSP
Can I interest you in a Long Con?
Hey I was a solid vote for Made yesterday.

You did vote for Omega very early after the claim yes. Why'd you switch to Mac, then back to Made?

I think I was just switching to Joseph to mix it up a bit, and not just ride on a red check all day. Then as soon as I voted him, Made also voted for him, and I got a really bad feeling about it. Like, if Joseph flipped town then it looks like Made and I decided together to make that thrust to save Made. So I just switched back to Made to avoid association.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:34 am
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:11 am Can someone suggest a wagon which isn't Mac, Chop or TSP
Can I interest you in a Long Con?

Hey I was a solid vote for Made yesterday.

Other game in progress.

That post was not for this game sorry.

We're almost there.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:19 pm Also, can someone please tell me if they targeted Alison cause I like really want to stop Alison from getting their Slaver win.

I did not target Alison.

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:45 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:12 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:06 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:55 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:33 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:15 pm

Your snarky responses are not making me feel better about your alignment.
I'm not responsible for your feelings. This isn't a good method of finding my alignment.

Ok, what is a good way of determining alignment?
I don't know, my job as either alignment is to make it difficult for you.
Cool.

You still get a scumread from me.
That's better.
I don't think I have memory of LC ever being this antagonistic, regardless of alignment.
w/t or w1/w2. I don't think there's a world where this is a teammate convo

Oh, I have been.

Three-way tie:

Spoiler: show

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:06 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:55 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:33 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:15 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:36 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:01 am

My point was that you haven't been quiet. You've posted plenty. I realize I forgot a particular word in my original statement, but at the time of the post, you had 30+ posts today, which was probably 5 hours or so into the day.
Ok keep counting my posts and figure out my alignment based on that.

Your snarky responses are not making me feel better about your alignment.
I'm not responsible for your feelings. This isn't a good method of finding my alignment.

Ok, what is a good way of determining alignment?
I don't know, my job as either alignment is to make it difficult for you.
Cool.

You still get a scumread from me.

That's better.

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