The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:47 pm ELOHCIN
KYLEMII
SPEEDCHUCK
QUIN

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Good
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Good

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:42 pm MOVINGPICTURES07/JAGGEDJIMMYJAY
LONG CON
MESK514

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Good
Bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:40 pm SLOONEI
DRAGON D. LUFFY
COLONIALBOB

Good
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Good

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:38 pm SPRITYO/DUNYA
SIG
EPIGNOSIS

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:35 pm Yeah fuck it.

JACKOFHEARTS2005
NUTELLA
DRWILGY

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ready
let's get this over with

Ugh, this is LC-Epi all over again over again.

aye

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:14 pm...as Long Con was receiving a following

It's my best following ever!

Yeah, "baddies" is British to me. But I Mafia-grew-up using Civvies and baddies, so I still often do. And I capitalize Civvies for some reason.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:13 pm As of now I'm probably voting into jack/LC/speedchuck. But I've been relatively unplugged for a few days so I want to go back and do some rereading.

I'm pretty much with you except on the LC front.

I still remember how he looked the last time I saw him...

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:45 pm Is Marmot okay?

Nice try, Jack, but you forgot that they're invisible!

Does anyone know who any of the other Epi voters actually were?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:09 am Daaaaaang Eloh.

Daaaaang?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:08 pmQuin pulled this move on Day 0. I think it's decent on a couple fronts:

1) It's effective for content generation.
2) This notion of "I have a suspicion, everyone else should tell me what it is" strikes me as an atypical means for a mafioso to either smear or distance.

Catching up, but I wanna post right away on this - I thought this was a cool way to engage the thread. Kudos, Quin, did you make that up for this game?

No, I took it as a joke, I'm suspicious of him from his ISO

Eloh, check out my post here if similarity is your jam.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:32 amAs far as other reads I'd really prefer to wait for flips tonight, you know, in case somebody dies...

That's assuming we get to know the role of the nightkilled party

Still kinda feeling the Jack/speedchuck w/w vibe.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:08 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:14 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:26 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:09 pm Eh, can't find it. I know I've seen that argument before, possibly from Epi. If it was in night vale, then

Epi's response to LC's pressure is a lot more damning than the initial stupid argument.

In Nightvale, Epi pretended to not understand/not be interested in a case against LC, who was his scumbuddy. You've seen this before but yeah, with scum Epi.

I agree the defense is more damning than the accusation but the accusation (Quin/Sloonei's version anyhow) has merit.

@speedchuck

I don't think you ever responded to this.

I must have missed it. I'll consider epi suspishipn on those grounds.

I'm not caught up yet, but according to my mentions LC is taking a bunch of my posts out of context?
And poking at my strong and obvious opinion posts.
Those were a part of a spontaneous catch up read, and the second is just how I play, man

Why did you avoid Night Vale when ou were looking for Epi evidence, speed?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:21 pm Voting LC for page 4 stuff that I said I was gonna vote Sloonei for.

Here speedchuck casts a vote for me just for voting Epignosis, which is the only thing I really did on page 4, unlesss talking about Spacedaisy's non-guilty post is why. Originally thought Sloonei voted Epi I guess?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:26 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:16 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:53 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:08 am Put a vote on Spacedaisy. Do we believe her guilt to be coming from a place of empathy for game hosts everywhere, or from her role card?

I'm not really buying the idea that she feels guilty about rolling Mafia, making it affect her very first post in the game.

WHo the hell feels guilty about being mafia anyway?

Me.

But I always feel guilty about winning.

This could easily be a "hide out in the open" kind of post.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:26 pm Wait wtf why is sloon voting on LC?

*keeps reading*

This idea is never followed up on. It was worth commenting on with a partial read, but not worth closing the idea? Or was it filler-talk?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:28 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:12 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:53 pm
Uh, you pick two Civs and buddy them so they trust you and don't lynch you. Long game benefit: survival, and more likely to lynch Civs along the way. You intimidate Sloonei out of coming after you. Benefit: One less Civ coming after you; survival; more likely to lynch a Civ along the way.

Wait a minute.

How does Long Con know Mesk, coolonialbob, and Sloonei are civilians?

Oh come on

In the hypothetical that LC is putting forward, of course they'd be likely civs.

This is always a stupid argument

Stating an easy obvious strong opinion. One that a few others already had made clear. More filler? Why repeat what has been said?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:39 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:34 pm As for the cbob and mesk no-vote posts... they're empty filler. Neither of them are in any way real or substantial gameplay. There was nothing about mesk's "dirt" comment that should lead to any alignment decisions. IF you really feel the need to read into it, it indicates a general ignorance or the game structure, which doesn't show as good or bad. And I don't feel like it was even that. Does anyone disagree with this?

And the Rocket Man lyrics response is equally devoid of value. So Epi would have spared his vote for any player who acknowledged his Elton John joke. Why? It doesn't even plant a seed that could grow into a suspicion, it doesn't put anyone on the spot, the only effect is to make cbob slightly more comfortable.

I'm glad none of the other players in this game post empty filler.

I'm also glad that you, LC, consider every player as an option, rather than writing a few off on D1. Screw priorities, focus, or good feels. Gotta waste all that effort on evaluating every player.

Was to call out epi for his egregious behavior.

This is one of the stupidest arguments I've seen D1, regardless of epi's alignment. What's worse, IT ISN'T EVEN YOUR ARGUMENT! Sloonei brought it up and you bandwagoned!

And worst of all, there's still a strong possibility that you're town and this is just LCxEPI LOVE CHU CHU

Never really responded to this, but Speedchuck seems to imply that I should call out every empty filler post in the game... I called Epi's out because he claimed to have used it for alignment-judgement on mesk, and I thought the content wasn't there to make that call, aka something was up.

Anyway, my real analysis is that this post would be really easy to make as a baddie who knows that LC and Epi are both Civ. Hit all the right notes, easy to be sure of yourself when you know all the facts, etc. I don't see much here that makes speedchuck looks Civ to me. Also plays well as an Epi teammate if you want to look at it that way.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:52 pm Mkay

I think the Epi train was formed out of nothing, and from now on, I'm going to pick two peeps not to lynch on D1 of every game and announce it to the world just to prove it. It's a stupid start to a stupid argument filled with stupidity, and the only reason Epi hasn't fought his way out of it is that he doesn't know how to defend against asininity.

(I love you guys <3 But I calls them as I sees them)

Eliminating possibilities for lynch on D1 is not a scumtell, and that's where the whole thing started. Once it became LC vs Epi, the arguments went the same way they usually do. Having caught up, I would posit that both are bull-headed town. And the strongest point against Epi is probably Nutella.

So I'm not going to vote for any of the three. Lemme see what my other options are

Could say the same here.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:53 pm (Basically I would think LC is scum but following such a stupid argument if he didn't genuinely see something in Epi is suicidal)

(And that's a town meta read on LC for me)

Well, first of all,



and again with the easy and correct analysis. "Town meta read for LC" indeed. Doubtful.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:55 pm I'm voting Nutella

Votes nutella with little to no discussion beyond mentioning her Epi argument was the best one. Three minutes after saying he wasn't voting for her.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:02 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:59 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:58 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:57 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:53 pm (Basically I would think LC is scum but following such a stupid argument if he didn't genuinely see something in Epi is suicidal)

(And that's a town meta read on LC for me)

you telling me lc wouldn't argue with epi just for the shits an' giggles?

As scum? I'm not entirely sure, but I'd lean "no."

what about the other way around? if epi was bad.

If LC is town and Epi bad?

It's possible. LC would have basically cornered Epi out of luck, but it's more likely than LC being scum I think

Extension of previous 'solid' opinions.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:05 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:59 pm What do you think of Epi pretending to not understand the case against him and pretending LC slipped?

I get the first part. LC's initial argument is the suck. That's just Epi's way of defending against it.

As for the slip, it makes Epi look bad because it's not a slip, as I already posted. I would be willing to vote Epi for this if I hadn't seen him use the same argument last time he and someone else were town/town arguers.

Aaaaand I should probably go verify that.

So in summary: Kinda get it, and eeegh it looks bad but might not be pending meta verification

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:09 pm Eh, can't find it. I know I've seen that argument before, possibly from Epi. If it was in night vale, then

Epi's response to LC's pressure is a lot more damning than the initial stupid argument.

I guess I'd say Epi and speedchuck aren't w/w from this post.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:09 pm BTW, not lynching Jack or Quin today

But this one feels like Jack and speedchuck could be.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:13 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:52 pm I think the Epi train was formed out of nothing, and from now on, I'm going to pick two peeps not to lynch on D1 of every game and announce it to the world just to prove it.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:09 pm BTW, not lynching Jack or Quin today

Might be less than random now, IDGAF

Lynch Epi or Nutella of the current options I guess. Jack I want to keep around (this is not the first game I've said this in [Might have been scum in the other game, don't remember]).

I really don't think LC is like this as scum.

Two out of three players he said he wasn't voting for are now his top suspects. More defense of me, and it's starting to really smell funny. Like, when he goes down and comes up bad, we can look back at posts like this and see a Bad Boy helping out his Bad Buddy.

Anyways, that's it for now on speedchuck's negative ISO analysis. Gotta do some real life stuff, but speedy's not looking great to me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:32 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:47 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:16 pm Sloonei is town

How did you arrive at that

A magician never reveals his secret.

But should a secretion reveal its magic?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:56 am Ok it was Jack and Sloonei tied with 5. I have been operating under the assumption that Nutella has a vote worth two based upon events from Day 1. If this is true, then Jack would actually have had six to Sloonei's five. This would then mean that either Jack is the role that survives its first death, he could be one of the two secret roles which we don't know the powers for, or he was protected by the Sutter Buttes and had his vote decreased by one, making it a tie that swung to Sloonei who then did not die.

I find it difficult to get past Sloonei seeming to think it was a waste of time to lynch him. His phrasing read to me like a hint at what would happen. I'll pull some quotes for examples.

This lynch leaves me with a distinctly bad impression of Jack. But there are two questions I need to have answered because they could be hidden factors at play if I have misunderstood them.

Marmot: Two questions. 1. When you say "Aconcagua will survive the first attempt on its life." does this apply to either lynch or NK, whichever comes first? Or does this only apply to NK?

2. If a lynch save has been used how will it be written?

These answers can impact my view of this latest non death.

Now I am off to pull the relevant Sloonei statements... then going to sleep.

Cristobal Colon (which I somehow missed in my tally of how no one got lynched) may have had to send in a lynch-stop without knowing which of the players in the "tie" were going to be lynched. It's conceivable that Civ Sloonei just saved baddie Jack, or vice-versa.

Options:

Sloonei or Jack are Aconcagua.

One of them are Chimborazo and got real lucky. And have great info on a Civ.

Matterhorn is a secret so maybe? Same for Olympus Mons.

None of the Little Mountains seem to have this ability.

I would say they are 100% not both bad. That role that checks twice with one true one false might be able to leverage this info?

So... what options are there for this lynch not happening? Obviously stuff like the Everest extra vote aren't a factor, because ties are randomized now. So.... the Big Mountain that can pardon a lynch? I should research before I post.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:24 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:11 am Hey, I missed the vote by 4 minutes. Sorry everyone. Gonna tell you who I would have voted for in a sec.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:12 am I would have voted for Jack. My posts will absolutely validate that.

Two questions:
What happened in the one minute between these two posts?
Why was it important to mention that your posts would validate your vote?

1. I looked to see who the tied lynch was. I was posting with the intent to beat the lynch post, because missed-vote posts after the lynch are tainted. I knew it was tied, I knew it was Sloonei, and I suspected it was Jack, but wasn't really sure. So, I went to check to make sure I was at least fully informed of the lynch result.

2. I started by just typing the first sentence, that I would have voted for Jack, and then I thought of whether or not people would believe that or if it would look sketchy, and then I recalled that I had specifically said a Jack vote was one of my top three or four likelies, and that I had also stated I thought Sloonei was Civ. Better to let the past speak for me, than my own sputtering apology of a non-vote.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:14 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:13 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:12 am I would have voted for Jack. My posts will absolutely validate that.

Thanks for saving me, scumbuddy. Good distancing.

This is really gonna throw 'em for a loop.

Crap, if Jack comes back bad if he gets lynched, then I'm going to look really bad. "I WOULD HAVE voted him but didn't, but he got lynched and was bad, and I swear I would have helped, guys, right?" LONG CON 4EVA!!!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:13 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:12 am I would have voted for Jack. My posts will absolutely validate that.

Thanks for saving me, scumbuddy. Good distancing.

This is really gonna throw 'em for a loop.

We're having a Christmas party here on Dec 10, and tonight there was a lot of work on that front - as in house renovationish work. Got too involved in painting bannisters and removing carpet from stairs, and I was like "I'ts after 1?? Crap!" Sorry again.

I would have voted for Jack. My posts will absolutely validate that.

Hey, I missed the vote by 4 minutes. Sorry everyone. Gonna tell you who I would have voted for in a sec.

I'm feeling like trusting Eloh for now, actually. I agree with Epi's analysis of her.

I also think Sloonei is Civ. I'm 80% sure that he posted something once that made me say "I am putting this guy in the Civ column."

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:26 pm@Long Con I don't know if you ever answered my question, do you now hold the belief that the back and forth between you and Epi was a misunderstanding?

Nah, I still think he's probably bad, but I'll focus elsewhere for now because K2 said so. I am considering voting Eloh for saying things I don't quite believe... or voting Jack for suspicious buddying behaviour... or joining Epi in a vote on Dom! There's a couple of players I won't vote for, but I'll keep them to myself at least for now.

And now I can ask this question without being a "Didn't Read" Denny. Eloh, why are Quin and Sloonei in the reddish zone? You have never mentioned them before.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:42 pmI still feel like you were voting epi for a nonsense reason which is what mafia will do.

Just glancing at Eloh's ISO to find her previously stated opinions of Quin and Sloonei... this post bugs me. Is that really "what mafia will do"? I feel like I could put a great many reasons baddies vote and put that at the beginning of the sentence.

"I feel like you were voting Epi to make it in before the lynch train took off, which is what mafia will do"

"I feel like you were voting Epi to save your teammate, which is what mafia will do"

"I feel like you were voting Epi to avoid either of the main trains, which is what mafia will do"

... those are all true as well. I'm just not buying Eloh's quote here as honest.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:42 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:14 pm I kind of agree with epi on voting a low poster. Other than my suspicion of LC and my slight suspicion of nutella (half the time her posts crack me up and half the time I'm hinking wtf), I do think that the high posters seem to be civ and genuinely trying to help.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:37 pm Elohcin
Mesk514
JaggedJimmyJay
Spacedaisy
Dragon D. Luffy
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
speedchuck
Kylemii
DrWilgy
insertnamehere
colonialbob
sig
sprityo
Quin
Sloonei
Dom
nutella
Long Con

Dom is the only low poster singled out as a clear suspect. The others are all nondescriptly placed in yellow. And then the claim that "the high posters seem to be civ" is somewhat contradicted by Quin and I being colored orange, and kyle being listed among the neutrals as well. You think this computes over here?

I agree with this analysis, well done.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:59 am

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:51 am I'ma kick today off with a rainbow, avoiding yellows to the best of my ability. with lots of yellows given the two replacements and extreme low posters. I hope to find a better place for them today.
Kylemii
Long Con
nutella
speedchuck
Spacedaisy
colonialbob
Dom
DrWilgy
JaggedJimmyJay
insertnamehere
sig
sprityo
Mesk514
Jackofhearts2005
Elohcin
Dragon D. Luffy
Sloonei
Epignosis

I will take questions. Unless your question is "Why do you have every read you have", in which case, suck a brick.

Why am I on the same end as Epi and the opposite end of LC?

Hey, I just got these coattails washed dude.

YOU CAN'T ASSUME HE'S CIV!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:53 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:27 am Off-topic, but I noticed the roles used to say "Puncak Jaya may send a storm to another player each night" and that a storm was a silence or curse of choice. Either I am remembering wrong, or that was edited.

lest I loathe to speaketh, but feeleth I must
Address this role without a fuss

Alas, e'en though I like to spam
Replies to all that sayeth mine name
A darkness falleth upon mine lips
A puckish rogue gaveth me a slip
So now I shalt not quote DDL
if 't be true twas a joke, it's his to telleth

This role that thee speaketh of the present day
Is probably just what thee sayeth
Or that's mine opinion concluded, be it

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:43 am I did it. I'm caught up. GLORY!

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:30 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:05 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:03 am... went at it not being sure he would succeed but trying anyway.

...describes everything meaningful I ever do in a game.

Depends. Maybe you don't even want to lynch Epi. You are just throwing shit in the fan so people look at the shit and think "LC is doing a lot of work. He civ".

Maybe! I don't think that's what I do though. I don't think I've ever done a lot of work.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:57 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:48 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:27 am Nobody wants to discuss why it's Day 2 and everybody is still alive? Okay.

Possibility #1: Aconcagua was targeted with the kill.

Possibility #2: Chimborazo was targeted with the kill and borrowed Aconcagua ability that same night.

Possibility #3: Kilimanjaro was targeted with the kill and activated its ability that same night (which I hope isn't the case).

Possibility #4: Mont Blanc did the Tube Snake Boogie and one of the above also happened.

Possibility #5: Matterhorn ???

Possibility #6: Olympus Mons ???

Possibility #7: Wrekin, England is the only member of the team able to submit a kill, and he was asleep at the hill.

Am I missing any?

++++

Off-topic, but I noticed the roles used to say "Puncak Jaya may send a storm to another player each night" and that a storm was a silence or curse of choice. Either I am remembering wrong, or that was edited.

Yeah, it said "silence or insanity of your choice" I believe.

If I were Kilimanjaro, I would have activated my ability last night. You never know how long you're going to last in a game, and I'd really feel silly if I got nightkilled with three protections in my pocket. I guess you think it's strategically better to wait until later game?

I would have a problem with a host who allowed a single inactive player to prevent the team from making a night 1 kill, because that's bullshit.

Why did you mention #4?

Either I misread it the first time, or Kilimanjaro was edited too. My reaction reading it originally was, "If you activate your ability, you have effectively killed yourself, because now you don't have a vote." Now I see Kilimanjaro will have a vote worth one less for the following Day only. That's good news then.

I raise #7 because I've seen things like that before. In Street Fighter, only a certain member could kill each Night, and that kill rotated through the team. I realize that isn't the same thing, but an inactive teammate could have cost the team a kill.

Is #4 not a possibility? "Mont Blanc Tunnel - Blanc may switch two players, switching their targets as well as redirecting night actions targeted at one to the other." I just went down the roles and posted every conceivable circumstance.

That's what I always recall seeing on Kilimanjaro.

#4 is a possibility to have happened, but I don't think it could have caused the no-kill. It's sort of like saying that Denali might have found Logan (don't search me it's not a hint) ... might have happened, but didn't cause the no-kill. It might have fooled the baddies into believing false info about the no-kill though.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:27 am Nobody wants to discuss why it's Day 2 and everybody is still alive? Okay.

Possibility #1: Aconcagua was targeted with the kill.

Possibility #2: Chimborazo was targeted with the kill and borrowed Aconcagua ability that same night.

Possibility #3: Kilimanjaro was targeted with the kill and activated its ability that same night (which I hope isn't the case).

Possibility #4: Mont Blanc did the Tube Snake Boogie and one of the above also happened.

Possibility #5: Matterhorn ???

Possibility #6: Olympus Mons ???

Possibility #7: Wrekin, England is the only member of the team able to submit a kill, and he was asleep at the hill.

Am I missing any?

++++

Off-topic, but I noticed the roles used to say "Puncak Jaya may send a storm to another player each night" and that a storm was a silence or curse of choice. Either I am remembering wrong, or that was edited.

Yeah, it said "silence or insanity of your choice" I believe.

If I were Kilimanjaro, I would have activated my ability last night. You never know how long you're going to last in a game, and I'd really feel silly if I got nightkilled with three protections in my pocket. I guess you think it's strategically better to wait until later game?

I would have a problem with a host who allowed a single inactive player to prevent the team from making a night 1 kill, because that's bullshit.

Why did you mention #4?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:03 am... went at it not being sure he would succeed but trying anyway.

...describes everything meaningful I ever do in a game.

DDl, both times you got ninja'd, you were clarifying a point that had little or nothing to do with solving the game. We both know the "that time Epi bussed" story very well, as do the majority of the players here, because it has come up many times. Not only are you commenting on things that have already been taken care of (ninja'd), but they are things that get your mouth moving but not the game. That does not look good to me; I am considering adding my vote to you, because the stars are aligning that way already. It's early in the day though.

Heyyyy, Mesk, fellow Canadian!

I'm a little worried about Jack buddying me, because he's been very agreeable to my point of view. But if we three are all Civ, then it does behoove us to work together.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:53 pm @Long Con

Your thoughts?

Also, did this give you a bell notification?

Yeah, I got a bell.

My thoughts? I like Epi's latest idea. Let's lynch Dom. Or DDL. You still want that, Ep?

Hmmm...